Retrocausality Mafia - ENDGAME: A Reprieve in the Desert

[Kylemii]

Kyle, stop trying to read rational meaning into something that I intended to be patently incorrect.

i don't understand but it doesn't seem important so whatevs

[Golden]

Kyle, stop trying to read rational meaning into something that I intended to be patently incorrect.

i don't understand but it doesn't seem important so whatevs

It can't be understood because it was a piece of nonsense in reaction to Quin still suspecting me.

[Turnip Head]

I'm on a bender right now gang and let me tell you it is fucking glorious

I've given in to the inevitability of our defeat in a world where someone other than myself is in charge of the laws of time, on like a personal level we should all feel this to be true

And so I sit here shitfaced waiting for this existence to be wiped clean by the oppressors

Tell me I am wrong to do this

You are wrong to do this because we are all just different variations of each other in separate timelines

[MacDougall]

Let's do something more fun.

sig and INH are Booker DeWitt and Comstock. That is to say, both have been swept away by the Luteces. They're not here.

Who gets your vote and why?

Epignosis
Choutas
Lapluie
Kylemii
Lunalee

or maybe Colin because I keep tinfoiling him.

You don't think I am right about Turnip Head?

[Turnip Head]

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] this is the darkest timeline for me. Guarantee me that you can be elected Night 2 and you'll be rid of me forever.

[MacDougall]

@MacDougall this is the darkest timeline for me. Guarantee me that you can be elected Night 2 and you'll be rid of me forever.

How could I guarantee that? Also I have no idea what you're talking about.

[Turnip Head]

@MacDougall this is the darkest timeline for me. Guarantee me that you can be elected Night 2 and you'll be rid of me forever.

How could I guarantee that? Also I have no idea what you're talking about.

I'm saying my win condition literally precludes me from giving much of a fuck and I've decided to go fully nihilistic with it. It feels thematically appropriate.

[Kylemii]

Let's do something more fun.

sig and INH are Booker DeWitt and Comstock. That is to say, both have been swept away by the Luteces. They're not here.

Who gets your vote and why?

Epignosis
Choutas
Lapluie
Kylemii
Lunalee

or maybe Colin because I keep tinfoiling him.

You don't think I am right about Turnip Head?

i don't think turnip head is mafia

[Epignosis]

Quin made a claim.

INH did not dispute it, but got angry and suggested he was not a civilian.

sig did not dispute it, but questioned the source of it.

sig is here and INH is not.

Lynch INH.

[Kylemii]

Let's do something more fun.

sig and INH are Booker DeWitt and Comstock. That is to say, both have been swept away by the Luteces. They're not here.

Who gets your vote and why?

Epignosis
Choutas
Lapluie
Kylemii
Lunalee

or maybe Colin because I keep tinfoiling him.

what's the reasonm behind the players following epignosis

[MacDougall]

Let's do something more fun.

sig and INH are Booker DeWitt and Comstock. That is to say, both have been swept away by the Luteces. They're not here.

Who gets your vote and why?

Epignosis
Choutas
Lapluie
Kylemii
Lunalee

or maybe Colin because I keep tinfoiling him.

You don't think I am right about Turnip Head?

i don't think turnip head is mafia

Well I have given a valid reason as to why I think he is. What is your logic for why he is not?

[Epignosis]

To be clear for anybody paying attention, Scotty is "town" and "a doctor" and "somebody who needs Golden alive to win."

[Epignosis]

According to Golden.

[MacDougall]

Quin made a claim.

INH did not dispute it, but got angry and suggested he was not a civilian.

sig did not dispute it, but questioned the source of it.

sig is here and INH is not.

Lynch INH.

If INH = indie and sig = PP I am lynching sig.

[MacDougall]

To be clear for anybody paying attention, Scotty is "town" and "a doctor" and "somebody who needs Golden alive to win."

I thought it was pretty obvious Scotty was counter claiming your doctor claim. Did you miss that or is it something else? Was he not doing that in your eyes?

[MacDougall]

Sig is your apparent inability to be lynched literally just today that it won't work?

[Turnip Head]

Find me a new leader for your ragtag group of timesquatters and I'll let the wormhole swallow me into the void

[Golden]

Let's do something more fun.

sig and INH are Booker DeWitt and Comstock. That is to say, both have been swept away by the Luteces. They're not here.

Who gets your vote and why?

Epignosis
Choutas
Lapluie
Kylemii
Lunalee

or maybe Colin because I keep tinfoiling him.

You don't think I am right about Turnip Head?

I’ve felt pretty good about TH so far but what do I know. I can’t read him that well.

[Golden]

To be clear for anybody paying attention, Scotty is "town" and "a doctor" and "somebody who needs Golden alive to win."

The third is incorrect.

He just needed me alive to identify him as town. I’m of no more use.

[MacDougall]

Find me a new leader for your ragtag group of timesquatters and I'll let the wormhole swallow me into the void

A new leader as opposed to who?

[Golden]

Let's do something more fun.

sig and INH are Booker DeWitt and Comstock. That is to say, both have been swept away by the Luteces. They're not here.

Who gets your vote and why?

Epignosis
Choutas
Lapluie
Kylemii
Lunalee

or maybe Colin because I keep tinfoiling him.

what's the reasonm behind the players following epignosis

I don’t currently have a town read on them.

[Turnip Head]

Find me a new leader for your ragtag group of timesquatters and I'll let the wormhole swallow me into the void

A new leader as opposed to who?

It doesn't matter to moi.

[Epignosis]

To be clear for anybody paying attention, Scotty is "town" and "a doctor" and "somebody who needs Golden alive to win."

I thought it was pretty obvious Scotty was counter claiming your doctor claim. Did you miss that or is it something else? Was he not doing that in your eyes?

I know what I'm doing. Leave it at that.

[Kylemii]

Well I have given a valid reason as to why I think he is. What is your logic for why he is not?

TH has strongly implied an indie wincon, but one which wouldn't be suitable for mafia fake claiming,

the specifics of his claim would give his cover a time limit if fake, to the point that it would gaurantee his lynch eventually if that were the case

[Kylemii]

i mean sure, wifom or whatever, but if th is mafia he's going extra steps to play suboptimally for basically no reason

[MacDougall]

Well I have given a valid reason as to why I think he is. What is your logic for why he is not?

TH has strongly implied an indie wincon, but one which wouldn't be suitable for mafia fake claiming,

the specifics of his claim would give his cover a time limit if fake, to the point that it would gaurantee his lynch eventually if that were the case

Well him being an indie is also a reasonable explanation for why he is different here than he was in U-Pick

[MacDougall]

To be clear for anybody paying attention, Scotty is "town" and "a doctor" and "somebody who needs Golden alive to win."

I thought it was pretty obvious Scotty was counter claiming your doctor claim. Did you miss that or is it something else? Was he not doing that in your eyes?

I know what I'm doing. Leave it at that.

Nah fuck dat. I asked you a fair question. Do you think he was counter claiming you? Because if he was counter claiming you and you are saying he isn't a doctor, I want to know why you aren't voting for him.

[Turnip Head]

Well I have given a valid reason as to why I think he is. What is your logic for why he is not?

TH has strongly implied an indie wincon, but one which wouldn't be suitable for mafia fake claiming,

the specifics of his claim would give his cover a time limit if fake, to the point that it would gaurantee his lynch eventually if that were the case

Well him being an indie is also a reasonable explanation for why he is different here than he was in U-Pick

Do I need a reasonable explanation for my behavior?

[MacDougall]

Well I have given a valid reason as to why I think he is. What is your logic for why he is not?

TH has strongly implied an indie wincon, but one which wouldn't be suitable for mafia fake claiming,

the specifics of his claim would give his cover a time limit if fake, to the point that it would gaurantee his lynch eventually if that were the case

Well him being an indie is also a reasonable explanation for why he is different here than he was in U-Pick

Do I need a reasonable explanation for my behavior?

Well I like to think so yeah

[Golden]

Nice avatar Mac.

[Epignosis]

To be clear for anybody paying attention, Scotty is "town" and "a doctor" and "somebody who needs Golden alive to win."

I thought it was pretty obvious Scotty was counter claiming your doctor claim. Did you miss that or is it something else? Was he not doing that in your eyes?

I know what I'm doing. Leave it at that.

Nah fuck dat. I asked you a fair question. Do you think he was counter claiming you? Because if he was counter claiming you and you are saying he isn't a doctor, I want to know why you aren't voting for him.

I'm not answering you. Piss off.

[Turnip Head]

Well I have given a valid reason as to why I think he is. What is your logic for why he is not?

TH has strongly implied an indie wincon, but one which wouldn't be suitable for mafia fake claiming,

the specifics of his claim would give his cover a time limit if fake, to the point that it would gaurantee his lynch eventually if that were the case

Well him being an indie is also a reasonable explanation for why he is different here than he was in U-Pick

Do I need a reasonable explanation for my behavior?

Well I like to think so yeah

Yeah okay sure but like define reasonable. It sounds like it's for grown ups.

[Turnip Head]

If time travel can erase my sins why die a saint

[Turnip Head]

I wonder if that counts towards Mac's question counter

[MacDougall]

To be clear for anybody paying attention, Scotty is "town" and "a doctor" and "somebody who needs Golden alive to win."

I thought it was pretty obvious Scotty was counter claiming your doctor claim. Did you miss that or is it something else? Was he not doing that in your eyes?

I know what I'm doing. Leave it at that.

Nah fuck dat. I asked you a fair question. Do you think he was counter claiming you? Because if he was counter claiming you and you are saying he isn't a doctor, I want to know why you aren't voting for him.

I'm not answering you. Piss off.

[nutella]

r e z z p l e a s e

[Quin]

r e z z p l e a s e

but you're not even dead

[sig]

r e z z p l e a s e

but you're not even dead

In her timeline we're all dead. ;*

[sig]

Sig is your apparent inability to be lynched literally just today that it won't work?

Oh it'll work whenever I want, but it would be a waste for it to be used today. I won't have enough time in this timeline to make it worthwhile basically.

Sig are you a civilian? Yes or no?

If you are a civilian what will be the outcome of lynching you today? Is the outcome positive or negative? Why?

If you are a civilian does your continued existence beyond day 3 reap any benefit to the civilian cause?

Yes

there's no outcome of lynching me today since it won't happen but if it did it would be negative since you'd loose a civ, but there wouldn't be some cataclysmic event

yes in the sense that I'd be here to post and engage. However, it's not like some role actives if I'm alive after day 3.

Also I think y'all might've read a little bit to deep into my d/n 1 posts.

So if we attempt to lynch you today, it just fails? Or it redirects? Does the second person get lynched instead? What do you expect the outcome to be? Just your continued existence and a fart video?

So you are saying that all of your role stops being relevant come day 3?

If you are a civilian then us wasting a lynch on you here is a bad idea. Given we have several other people who have role claimed, perhaps the civilian duty you have here is to actually just enlighten us as to what it is that you do?

1. Everything resets and I leave you all for a better land BUT I wouldn't have been lynched.

2. No my role is relevant until I use it

3. I told you I can't be lynched that's my role power.

IF you try you fail and the timeline will be disrupted resulting in chaos. Or that's the theory anyway.

Also just to be clear if you tried to lynhc me day 3 it would also fail, but it would've been the optimal time for me to active my power. Or that's what I thought at first.

[ColinIsCool]

Why Day 3 and not any other day?

[sig]

Why Day 3 and not any other day?

In a game this size day 3 would've been the safest according to my calculations.

[sig]

Also I died in my MU game, so unless I'm dumb and sign up for another (Which i might do ngl) I should be more active with real posts here.

[Lunalee]

Scotty is both town and doctor.

How are you so sure of that?

My entire role was literally 'find scotty', I just didn't know it was scotty, until I did.

okay then

[ColinIsCool]

Why Day 3 and not any other day?

In a game this size day 3 would've been the safest according to my calculations.

Can you show your work?

[speedchuck]

Day ends in a little over 10 hours.

[Scotty]

So with no reveals, are we supposed to be just guessing things? I’m so far in the dark here I think my body is black.

Like I don’t even know where to go, aside from trusting infodumps.

So you can't play unless there are reveals? I've already explained why sig is bad.

I’m playing but I don’t know what I’m playing.

Is this what a mail order bride is like?

[Scotty]

solid Town:
Nutella (Vanihsed players should be kept on list imo in case they come back)
Daisy
Zeph

Townish:
Mac (He's super wrong, but not bad)
Scotty/Golden (?) Dont quite understand the dynamic going on here, but YOLO am I right?
Quin: Don't think mafia quin would claim what he did.
TH Same game so far as U pick


Disturbing me:
Colin, He's been off, can't really describe this it's mainly gut SOMETHING CIV SIG DOES ALL THE TIME. :cry
Lap
Luna, can't read her at all, but hate how she jumps kinda onto my wagon. Especially after she jumped onto voting me last night?
Choutus: No real posts, can't recall who he voted for day 1 but night 1 he went with golden. low key budding attempt?

Mafia maybe?
INH if it has to be me or him it's him. Plus his big post was super bad ( Yes I said it looked okay earlier I WAS WRONG OKAY! OKAY?)
Kyle for the lolz and he's weirding me out gotta iSO him.

Now you’re just parroting why I suspected him. This is the first I’ve heard of your suspicion. Also that’s weak sauce.

[Scotty]

Kyle's posts have been mainly fluff or interacting with/around Daisy. I like his Daisy posts, but mafia can civ read people so NAI. Though if one is mafia i'd look closely at the other.

Strongly reading Spacedaisy as town at this point. Kyle not so much.

I’m the opposite surprisingly. Might change with Kyle as the game goes on tho

[Scotty]

Actually.....

Spacedaisy
Lapluie
Turnip Head
Sig

Golden

All others

Is say....if this plays out as we think it will and sig goes home to paradox police headquarters, then this list is pretty spot on.

Agree

[Scotty]

sig, at what point did you ever forget that I was in this?

I can’t get on sig for forgetting shit because it happens to the best of us- the absolute best of us,,,ya know?