Hogwarts Mafia - END

[MacDougall]

Anyway there's not much value in hammering speedchuck much more. There's clearly some "deep wolf" as they say (it's DharmaHelper).

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Anyway there's not much value in hammering speedchuck much more. There's clearly some "deep wolf" as they say (it's DharmaHelper).

It’s a possibility I have given a non-zero amount of thought to. Whaddya got?

[DharmaHelper]

Anyway there's not much value in hammering speedchuck much more. There's clearly some "deep wolf" as they say (it's DharmaHelper).

Do you bite your thumb at me sir?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Anyway there's not much value in hammering speedchuck much more. There's clearly some "deep wolf" as they say (it's DharmaHelper).

Do you bite your thumb at me sir?

You appeared from nowhere to respond to that one eh?

[DharmaHelper]

Anyway there's not much value in hammering speedchuck much more. There's clearly some "deep wolf" as they say (it's DharmaHelper).

Do you bite your thumb at me sir?

You appeared from nowhere to respond to that one eh?

Define "from nowhere."

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Anyway there's not much value in hammering speedchuck much more. There's clearly some "deep wolf" as they say (it's DharmaHelper).

Do you bite your thumb at me sir?

You appeared from nowhere to respond to that one eh?

Define "from nowhere."

That sounds like a waste of my time.

You built a shoddy case on LC for distance and didn’t expect a wagon to balloon as it did due to other suspicions. You were prepared though since you knew he’d survive.

[DharmaHelper]

Anyway there's not much value in hammering speedchuck much more. There's clearly some "deep wolf" as they say (it's DharmaHelper).

Do you bite your thumb at me sir?

You appeared from nowhere to respond to that one eh?

Define "from nowhere."

That sounds like a waste of my time.

You built a shoddy case on LC for distance and didn’t expect a wagon to balloon as it did due to other suspicions. You were prepared though since you knew he’d survive.

Why did I do that.

[Sloonei]

Anyway there's not much value in hammering speedchuck much more. There's clearly some "deep wolf" as they say (it's DharmaHelper).

Do you bite your thumb at me sir?

You appeared from nowhere to respond to that one eh?

Define "from nowhere."

That sounds like a waste of my time.

You built a shoddy case on LC for distance and didn’t expect a wagon to balloon as it did due to other suspicions. You were prepared though since you knew he’d survive.

Why did I do that.

So that you could say this:

Absolute awe that I sniffed out Long Con on a whim. I literally was like "Fuck I gotta do all these read backs lemme start with Long Con, Oh shit this guy is bad lol got em"

[DharmaHelper]

"The only case DH built D3 was against his teammate and he got his teammate lynched even when the poll was a fuckin million-way tie and he coulda jumped ship but he didn't because he wanted his teammate to waste a lynch save because he wanted to out his teammate and the existence of lynch saves and himself"

Cool theory.

[DharmaHelper]

Anyway there's not much value in hammering speedchuck much more. There's clearly some "deep wolf" as they say (it's DharmaHelper).

Do you bite your thumb at me sir?

You appeared from nowhere to respond to that one eh?

Define "from nowhere."

That sounds like a waste of my time.

You built a shoddy case on LC for distance and didn’t expect a wagon to balloon as it did due to other suspicions. You were prepared though since you knew he’d survive.

Why did I do that.

So that you could say this:

Absolute awe that I sniffed out Long Con on a whim. I literally was like "Fuck I gotta do all these read backs lemme start with Long Con, Oh shit this guy is bad lol got em"

Cool Theory.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Why did I do that.

It’s a token distancing tactic when you think a civilian is getting lynched anyway.

[DharmaHelper]

Lol wild that Hufflepuff McTownslip jumps on the first wiff of a DH suspicion huh guys pretty crazy.

[DharmaHelper]

Why did I do that.

It’s a token distancing tactic when you think a civilian is getting lynched anyway.

Hey I dunno if you've played a game with me ever in your life before but I don't fuck with token shit fam. I'm elevated. I'm God-Tier. They write books about my shit. GOML.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

"The only case DH built D3 was against his teammate and he got his teammate lynched even when the poll was a fuckin million-way tie and he coulda jumped ship but he didn't because he wanted his teammate to waste a lynch save because he wanted to out his teammate and the existence of lynch saves and himself"

Cool theory.

Straw men don’t survive lynches. I think you’ll be the next.

[Sloonei]

Lol wild that Hufflepuff McTownslip jumps on the first wiff of a DH suspicion huh guys pretty crazy.

Forgive me for playing mafia in this game of mafia.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Why did I do that.

It’s a token distancing tactic when you think a civilian is getting lynched anyway.

Hey I dunno if you've played a game with me ever in your life before but I don't fuck with token shit fam. I'm elevated. I'm God-Tier. They write books about my shit. GOML.

Trust me, you’re token.

[DharmaHelper]

"The only case DH built D3 was against his teammate and he got his teammate lynched even when the poll was a fuckin million-way tie and he coulda jumped ship but he didn't because he wanted his teammate to waste a lynch save because he wanted to out his teammate and the existence of lynch saves and himself"

Cool theory.

Straw men don’t survive lynches. I think you’ll be the next.

What're you on about? Blowharding and Neganing aside I genuinely do not get the logic in "DH went through all that shit to distance himself from Long Con for no reason out of the blue ass nowhere"

But sure go ahead fuck wth me see whats up.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

"The only case DH built D3 was against his teammate and he got his teammate lynched even when the poll was a fuckin million-way tie and he coulda jumped ship but he didn't because he wanted his teammate to waste a lynch save because he wanted to out his teammate and the existence of lynch saves and himself"

Cool theory.

Straw men don’t survive lynches. I think you’ll be the next.

What're you on about? Blowharding and Neganing aside I genuinely do not get the logic in "DH went through all that shit to distance himself from Long Con for no reason out of the blue ass nowhere"

But sure go ahead fuck wth me see whats up.

It wasn’t really “all that shit”. Part of the reason this works is how much and how often you have overstated the role you had in that lynch.

[DharmaHelper]

....Overstated how my guy

I built the case that got him lynched..... like... excuse?

[juliets]

If Quin is bad and was targeting his teammate Long Con, what ability might he have been using?

Was this question ever answered?
Additionally, I want to ask who we'd believe more in the Quin vs. Speedchuck split if poutanko's cop claim didn't exist?
And also if there's a scenario in which all three of speedchuck, quin, and poutanko are town and telling the truth?

If these are things that have already been discussed then you can just slap me and point me in the right direction. But I'm hung up on these reported night actions right now and feel like it's the most pressing issue we've got right now.

Ok Sloon, I looked through all of the spells, potions, etc. and the only thing I could find was if Quin gave Long Con the Elixir of Life and someone else targeted LC with Petrificus Totalus which prevents the person targeted from drinking a potion. If that had happened and Speed was watching Long Con he would have seen three people visit LC, Quin, the potion canceller and a vig - unless LC was not killed by a vig. Anyway, it would have been quite complicated and seemingly a 1 in 1000 chance. (I made those numbers up.)

Maybe someone else see's something more realistic.

omgosh tons of linki

[JaggedJimmyJay]

....Overstated how my guy

I built the case that got him lynched..... like... excuse?

Go back and show me that people voted for Long Con because you made a case. I seriously didn’t even know you made a case when I voted for LC.

[DharmaHelper]

....Overstated how my guy

I built the case that got him lynched..... like... excuse?

Go back and show me that people voted for Long Con because you made a case. I seriously didn’t even know you made a case when I voted for LC.

Bully for you my good man.

[MacDougall]

Anyway there's not much value in hammering speedchuck much more. There's clearly some "deep wolf" as they say (it's DharmaHelper).

Do you bite your thumb at me sir?

You appeared from nowhere to respond to that one eh?

Define "from nowhere."

That sounds like a waste of my time.

You built a shoddy case on LC for distance and didn’t expect a wagon to balloon as it did due to other suspicions. You were prepared though since you knew he’d survive.

Oh hallelujah.

[DharmaHelper]

I trust Long Con less than I did when the day began. Whatever doubts I have stem from here. Someone argue with those points while I am in class.

Wow thats weird

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I trust Long Con less than I did when the day began. Whatever doubts I have stem from here. Someone argue with those points while I am in class.

Wow thats weird

Irrelevant. Am I bad?

[DharmaHelper]

The Long Con case DH just posted is prettay good though too. He seems particularly opportunistic voting for me, more than Quin or the others.

Oh cool thanks C-Dawg

[DharmaHelper]

I trust Long Con less than I did when the day began. Whatever doubts I have stem from here. Someone argue with those points while I am in class.

Wow thats weird

Irrelevant. Am I bad?

Who gives a fuck lol

[MacDougall]

"The only case DH built D3 was against his teammate and he got his teammate lynched even when the poll was a fuckin million-way tie and he coulda jumped ship but he didn't because he wanted his teammate to waste a lynch save because he wanted to out his teammate and the existence of lynch saves and himself"

Cool theory.

It's an excellent theory.

DharmaHelper bussed Long Con knowing that Long Con wouldn't actually get lynched, knowing that they had a resurrection in the team for cred. You are just trying to make it sound stupid when it's actually a completely sane thing to expect you to have done.

Firefly, Golden and Enrique lynch. Need I remind you. Scum do scum things. Scum don't do basic things. You keep insisting that the scum here are doing basic things like trying to save long con and such. Scum don't do shit like that and you know it. The scummiest part of what you are doing is actually doubling down and refusing to accept these points as logical.

[DharmaHelper]

Here's my GTH list. Throwing this out so I can start to organize my thoughts:
Owner/Sloonei - good
Epignosis - good
JaggedJimmyJay - good
JackOfHearts - good
Quin - good
Bullzeye/Speedchuck - good
Kara - good
Timmer - good
Poutanko - good
ColinIsCool - bad
Sprityo - bad
nutella - bad
MacDougal - bad
Glorf - bad
DharmaHelper - bad

And long con??

Oh shoot. How did I miss Long Con?
Long Con - good

Yikes fam

[Sloonei]

I trust Long Con less than I did when the day began. Whatever doubts I have stem from here. Someone argue with those points while I am in class.

Wow thats weird

Irrelevant. Am I bad?

Who gives a fuck lol

Civilians

[DharmaHelper]

"The only case DH built D3 was against his teammate and he got his teammate lynched even when the poll was a fuckin million-way tie and he coulda jumped ship but he didn't because he wanted his teammate to waste a lynch save because he wanted to out his teammate and the existence of lynch saves and himself"

Cool theory.

It's an excellent theory.

DharmaHelper bussed Long Con knowing that Long Con wouldn't actually get lynched, knowing that they had a resurrection in the team for cred. You are just trying to make it sound stupid when it's actually a completely sane thing to expect you to have done.

Firefly, Golden and Enrique lynch. Need I remind you. Scum do scum things. Scum don't do basic things. You keep insisting that the scum here are doing basic things like trying to save long con and such. Scum don't do shit like that and you know it. The scummiest part of what you are doing is actually doubling down and refusing to accept these points as logical.

OK Mac cool theory my guy.

1. I Bussed Long Con out of the blue ass nowhere, making a case against him.
2. Instead of moving my vote when there was a fuckin' million-way tie I kept it on Long Con all day

Why did I do these things? Why did I out myself, Long Con, and the existence of a lynch stop? There's a vast difference between "risky, complex plans" and "stupid dumb shit"

Why would Scum DH do that?

[DharmaHelper]

I trust Long Con less than I did when the day began. Whatever doubts I have stem from here. Someone argue with those points while I am in class.

Wow thats weird

Irrelevant. Am I bad?

Who gives a fuck lol

Civilians

Hey this is an A-B conversation so if you could C your way out that would be super.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

You can have the rest of the fun, Mac. I’m finished.

[Sloonei]

If Quin is bad and was targeting his teammate Long Con, what ability might he have been using?

Was this question ever answered?
Additionally, I want to ask who we'd believe more in the Quin vs. Speedchuck split if poutanko's cop claim didn't exist?
And also if there's a scenario in which all three of speedchuck, quin, and poutanko are town and telling the truth?

If these are things that have already been discussed then you can just slap me and point me in the right direction. But I'm hung up on these reported night actions right now and feel like it's the most pressing issue we've got right now.

Ok Sloon, I looked through all of the spells, potions, etc. and the only thing I could find was if Quin gave Long Con the Elixir of Life and someone else targeted LC with Petrificus Totalus which prevents the person targeted from drinking a potion. If that had happened and Speed was watching Long Con he would have seen three people visit LC, Quin, the potion canceller and a vig - unless LC was not killed by a vig. Anyway, it would have been quite complicated and seemingly a 1 in 1000 chance. (I made those numbers up.)

Maybe someone else see's something more realistic.

omgosh tons of linki

I appreciate these thoughts. I suppose another possibility is that quin was simply using protego/wingardium leviosa on his teammate LC, if those are abilities he has access to.

I suppose my next question in this line (for anybody) would be this: Why does speedchuck come out with this specific story if he is bad?

[Sloonei]

I trust Long Con less than I did when the day began. Whatever doubts I have stem from here. Someone argue with those points while I am in class.

Wow thats weird

Irrelevant. Am I bad?

Who gives a fuck lol

Civilians

Hey this is an A-B conversation so if you could C your way out that would be super.

DharmaHelper is trying to repress my right to free speech in this thread! Get him out of here! #DontTreadOnMe

[MacDougall]

So DharmaHelper.

You just "happened" to pick LC out of the whole game and lo and behold he's scum.

You believe his most likely allies to be those that tried to save him (which I cannot see any evidence of you actually investigating and naming anyone).

You believe that I am bad because I suggested that dead scum might have faulty role reveals and that as a result it makes sense for me to have resurrected INH?

You think it's dumb for anyone to suggest that maybe you were distancing LC and that maybe you knew he wouldn't get lynched?

You think all of this means you are the towniest player in the game.

Despite being the towniest player in the game, you were not killed and in fact Epi was? You are making a target of yourself, yet you remain alive?

Speedchuck has you as a town read in his reads list as "is town because he is", the only person who scumchuck actually has no justification for his town read on.

All of the aforementioned is dumb, you are responsible for dead LC and should be glorified because forums Mafia is a basic game and everything is always as it seems?

[MacDougall]

"The only case DH built D3 was against his teammate and he got his teammate lynched even when the poll was a fuckin million-way tie and he coulda jumped ship but he didn't because he wanted his teammate to waste a lynch save because he wanted to out his teammate and the existence of lynch saves and himself"

Cool theory.

It's an excellent theory.

DharmaHelper bussed Long Con knowing that Long Con wouldn't actually get lynched, knowing that they had a resurrection in the team for cred. You are just trying to make it sound stupid when it's actually a completely sane thing to expect you to have done.

Firefly, Golden and Enrique lynch. Need I remind you. Scum do scum things. Scum don't do basic things. You keep insisting that the scum here are doing basic things like trying to save long con and such. Scum don't do shit like that and you know it. The scummiest part of what you are doing is actually doubling down and refusing to accept these points as logical.

OK Mac cool theory my guy.

1. I Bussed Long Con out of the blue ass nowhere, making a case against him.
2. Instead of moving my vote when there was a fuckin' million-way tie I kept it on Long Con all day

Why did I do these things? Why did I out myself, Long Con, and the existence of a lynch stop? There's a vast difference between "risky, complex plans" and "stupid dumb shit"

Why would Scum DH do that?

Why would scum DH hard distance a teammate (who had a lot of players scum reading him btw, yours truly included), and then bus him on a lynch that failed?

Really?

You need me to explain that?

The better question is what scum player wouldn't do these things?

[DharmaHelper]

[quote=MacDougall post_id=494122 time=1541636990 user_id=441]
So DharmaHelper.

You just "happened" to pick LC out of the whole game and lo and behold he's scum.

Yeah boss I'm pretty good at a game I've been playing for 10+ years my guy

You believe his most likely allies to be those that tried to save him (which I cannot see any evidence of you actually investigating and naming anyone).

Yeah boss I do believe the people who tried to save Long Con were bad. You don't see me looking into it because I haven't yet. Fuckin' sue me or w/e

You believe that I am bad because I suggested that dead scum might have faulty role reveals and that as a result it makes sense for me to have resurrected INH?


Do I? News to me.

You think it's dumb for anyone to suggest that maybe you were distancing LC and that maybe you knew he wouldn't get lynched?

Yes.

You think all of this means you are the towniest player in the game.

Probably. I can't decide if I'm kidding about that.

Despite being the towniest player in the game, you were not killed and in fact Epi was? You are making a target of yourself, yet you remain alive?

IDK Man that seems like a Mafia problem to me.

Speedchuck has you as a town read in his reads list as "is town because he is", the only person who scumchuck actually has no justification for his town read on.

I guess.

All of the aforementioned is dumb, you are responsible for dead LC and should be glorified because forums Mafia is a basic game and everything is always as it seems?

IDK you seem to be making a lot of assumptions just in this last sentence alone m8. I'm pretty fuckin' great and all that and I did get LC lynched but did I say anything about this being a basic game or everything being as it seems? IDK

[MacDougall]

Is it posssible that DharmaHelper did in fact freakishly nail Long Con? Absolutely it is.

Is it possible that DharmaHelper is glowing in his own glory and that is what is causing him to double down on everything and completely ignore any speculation that he bussed LC? Absolutely it is.

It is absolutely possible that DharmaHelper is town in this, but it is also absolutely possible that he is not.

For me, there are no other players that have as much chance of flipping Mafia outside of speedchuck and INH.

[DharmaHelper]

"The only case DH built D3 was against his teammate and he got his teammate lynched even when the poll was a fuckin million-way tie and he coulda jumped ship but he didn't because he wanted his teammate to waste a lynch save because he wanted to out his teammate and the existence of lynch saves and himself"

Cool theory.

It's an excellent theory.

DharmaHelper bussed Long Con knowing that Long Con wouldn't actually get lynched, knowing that they had a resurrection in the team for cred. You are just trying to make it sound stupid when it's actually a completely sane thing to expect you to have done.

Firefly, Golden and Enrique lynch. Need I remind you. Scum do scum things. Scum don't do basic things. You keep insisting that the scum here are doing basic things like trying to save long con and such. Scum don't do shit like that and you know it. The scummiest part of what you are doing is actually doubling down and refusing to accept these points as logical.

OK Mac cool theory my guy.

1. I Bussed Long Con out of the blue ass nowhere, making a case against him.
2. Instead of moving my vote when there was a fuckin' million-way tie I kept it on Long Con all day

Why did I do these things? Why did I out myself, Long Con, and the existence of a lynch stop? There's a vast difference between "risky, complex plans" and "stupid dumb shit"

Why would Scum DH do that?

Why would scum DH hard distance a teammate (who had a lot of players scum reading him btw, yours truly included), and then bus him on a lynch that failed?

Really?

You need me to explain that?

The better question is what scum player wouldn't do these things?

Yeah I need you to explain that's why I asked you to explain.

[DharmaHelper]

Is it posssible that DharmaHelper did in fact freakishly nail Long Con? Absolutely it is.

Is it possible that DharmaHelper is glowing in his own glory and that is what is causing him to double down on everything and completely ignore any speculation that he bussed LC? Absolutely it is.

It is absolutely possible that DharmaHelper is town in this, but it is also absolutely possible that he is not.

For me, there are no other players that have as much chance of flipping Mafia outside of speedchuck and INH.

You said smarter shit when you were shitposting.

[MacDougall]

"The only case DH built D3 was against his teammate and he got his teammate lynched even when the poll was a fuckin million-way tie and he coulda jumped ship but he didn't because he wanted his teammate to waste a lynch save because he wanted to out his teammate and the existence of lynch saves and himself"

Cool theory.

It's an excellent theory.

DharmaHelper bussed Long Con knowing that Long Con wouldn't actually get lynched, knowing that they had a resurrection in the team for cred. You are just trying to make it sound stupid when it's actually a completely sane thing to expect you to have done.

Firefly, Golden and Enrique lynch. Need I remind you. Scum do scum things. Scum don't do basic things. You keep insisting that the scum here are doing basic things like trying to save long con and such. Scum don't do shit like that and you know it. The scummiest part of what you are doing is actually doubling down and refusing to accept these points as logical.

OK Mac cool theory my guy.

1. I Bussed Long Con out of the blue ass nowhere, making a case against him.
2. Instead of moving my vote when there was a fuckin' million-way tie I kept it on Long Con all day

Why did I do these things? Why did I out myself, Long Con, and the existence of a lynch stop? There's a vast difference between "risky, complex plans" and "stupid dumb shit"

Why would Scum DH do that?

Why would scum DH hard distance a teammate (who had a lot of players scum reading him btw, yours truly included), and then bus him on a lynch that failed?

Really?

You need me to explain that?

The better question is what scum player wouldn't do these things?

Yeah I need you to explain that's why I asked you to explain.

Scum DH would hard distance and then bus a teammate who had a lot of players scum reading him ergo likely to be dead soon in order to appear like a glorious townie, which is the primary thing that scum players of forums Mafia aim to look like.

[DharmaHelper]

But why.

[MacDougall]

Is it posssible that DharmaHelper did in fact freakishly nail Long Con? Absolutely it is.

Is it possible that DharmaHelper is glowing in his own glory and that is what is causing him to double down on everything and completely ignore any speculation that he bussed LC? Absolutely it is.

It is absolutely possible that DharmaHelper is town in this, but it is also absolutely possible that he is not.

For me, there are no other players that have as much chance of flipping Mafia outside of speedchuck and INH.

You said smarter shit when you were shitposting.

Your outright dismissal of the validity of the point makes you look worse actually. So too does the fact that you have now started earnestly defending yourself from me when you've spent most of the game subtly implying you think I am bad.

For me to be measured on "smarts" implies that I am town no?

[MacDougall]

But why.

Because looking like a civilian, when one is Mafia, prevents one from being lynched and/or night killed by civilian players DharmaHelper.

[DharmaHelper]

Is it posssible that DharmaHelper did in fact freakishly nail Long Con? Absolutely it is.

Is it possible that DharmaHelper is glowing in his own glory and that is what is causing him to double down on everything and completely ignore any speculation that he bussed LC? Absolutely it is.

It is absolutely possible that DharmaHelper is town in this, but it is also absolutely possible that he is not.

For me, there are no other players that have as much chance of flipping Mafia outside of speedchuck and INH.

You said smarter shit when you were shitposting.

Your outright dismissal of the validity of the point makes you look worse actually. So too does the fact that you have now started earnestly defending yourself from me when you've spent most of the game subtly implying you think I am bad.

For me to be measured on "smarts" implies that I am town no?

"You dismissing the idea that you are a mafia makes you look more like a mafia" said the absolutely cool and good and smart guy.

[DharmaHelper]

"DharmaHelper"

"Earnest"

I rest my case your honor.

[DharmaHelper]

I'm humoring you by even addressing the point at all. By even bothering to dismiss it.

The poll was tied/tight, Mac. Why would I maintain my vote on Long Con, and not build or pursue any other cases/suspects, if it meant that Scum DH could A) Keep his cred and B) Keep the lynch stop.

[Sloonei]

I'm humoring you by even addressing the point at all. By even bothering to dismiss it.

The poll was tied/tight, Mac. Why would I maintain my vote on Long Con, and not build or pursue any other cases/suspects, if it meant that Scum DH could A) Keep his cred and B) Keep the lynch stop.

Who's bad?

[DharmaHelper]

I'm humoring you by even addressing the point at all. By even bothering to dismiss it.

The poll was tied/tight, Mac. Why would I maintain my vote on Long Con, and not build or pursue any other cases/suspects, if it meant that Scum DH could A) Keep his cred and B) Keep the lynch stop.

Who's bad?

IDK, I've been either busy today or fired up fuckin' with Mac and Jay, so tomorrow I'll have to dig into the thread again and bus another one of my teammates for no reason lol got em.