Romance of the Three Kingdoms [ENDGAME]

#1081

Rabbit isn't playing, nutella.

#1082

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Alright I don't have anything to add myself so I'm gonna make a proposition to you all.

Talk about the following people:

Boomslang
Bullzeye
Dragon D. Luffy
Elohcin
Nerolunar
Quin

All those are players with 5 or more posts, which posted on day 2 or later, and yet nobody seems to be talking about them.

Yes I included myself. I fit the above criteria so it's only fair. And it feels awkward when nobody wants me dead, I don't like it. Talk about me more please.

Don't have an opinion on them? Well it's a great time to ISO them. Go.

I'll GTH them. I'll humor the haters.
Boomslang - civ
Bullzeye - civ
DDL - civ
Elohcin - bad
Nerolunar - civ
Quin - civ

#1083

Alright, finally got time to sit down and work through this thing. Thanks for keeping posts under a thousands per day, fam :P Very glad the MM suspicion turned out, and I'm not surprised by the JJJ prefect kill. Kind of surprised INH and Scotty haven't been attacked yet, but then again, INH hasn't been much of a force in the thread. Some of my thoughts thus far:

I really liked nutella's defense against MP. I thought the second point, where she called him out for misrepresenting her attack on Dom, was particularly cogent. MP highlighted the "annoying" part while ignoring the meaty "sufficient content" and "voting behavior" reasons. That kind of deliberate misdirection pings bad to me.

I think LoRab's read on TH is very good. There's opportunity for WIFOM, but TH does seem too chummy with MM at the start, and I think "Or I could always vote myself so that I can duel the marmot and bring honor to my home." is a big red flag. It would be a way to take a vote out of play for a teammate in a seemingly selfless manner. Also, I see a possible motive for the immediate JJJ nightkill. JJJ asks why TH has beef with MM, and TH just shrugs it off with the silly "He made rude remarks about the size of my ancestors' bellies." Killing JJJ could be a way to eliminate followup questions today?

I don't like Nerolunar just kind of shrugging off my criticism of his D2 votes. The distinction between "random" and "impulse" votes seems spurious, especially when he says random is "being indifferent about the voted players" and then that his impulse votes were based on Timmer and BWT being "careless and uninterested." I don't get excited to vote for players who seem uninterested; carelessness is a slightly better criterion, but he provided no specific evidence. Can you back that up from thread posts, Nerolunar?

Jan continues to seem more baffled than someone should be. "Why wasn't anyone killed?" has plenty of reasons, and it's worth conjecture on why. That's the second time Jan has said something that seems to show a carelessness with thinking through the rules.

#1084

BOOM slang.

That's a really townie post right there. I like it a lot. You go high on my townie list.

#1085

Boomslang wrote:Alright, finally got time to sit down and work through this thing. Thanks for keeping posts under a thousands per day, fam :P Very glad the MM suspicion turned out, and I'm not surprised by the JJJ prefect kill. Kind of surprised INH and Scotty haven't been attacked yet, but then again, INH hasn't been much of a force in the thread. Some of my thoughts thus far:

I really liked nutella's defense against MP. I thought the second point, where she called him out for misrepresenting her attack on Dom, was particularly cogent. MP highlighted the "annoying" part while ignoring the meaty "sufficient content" and "voting behavior" reasons. That kind of deliberate misdirection pings bad to me.

I think LoRab's read on TH is very good. There's opportunity for WIFOM, but TH does seem too chummy with MM at the start, and I think "Or I could always vote myself so that I can duel the marmot and bring honor to my home." is a big red flag. It would be a way to take a vote out of play for a teammate in a seemingly selfless manner. Also, I see a possible motive for the immediate JJJ nightkill. JJJ asks why TH has beef with MM, and TH just shrugs it off with the silly "He made rude remarks about the size of my ancestors' bellies." Killing JJJ could be a way to eliminate followup questions today?

I don't like Nerolunar just kind of shrugging off my criticism of his D2 votes. The distinction between "random" and "impulse" votes seems spurious, especially when he says random is "being indifferent about the voted players" and then that his impulse votes were based on Timmer and BWT being "careless and uninterested." I don't get excited to vote for players who seem uninterested; carelessness is a slightly better criterion, but he provided no specific evidence. Can you back that up from thread posts, Nerolunar?

Jan continues to seem more baffled than someone should be. "Why wasn't anyone killed?" has plenty of reasons, and it's worth conjecture on why. That's the second time Jan has said something that seems to show a carelessness with thinking through the rules.

My only concern is that a lot of the reason MM was lynched because of his interactions with Wilgy - so I wonder how likely it is that TH is trying to pull the same strategy as he did after it blew up in his face. I think you make a good point with the rest of your case, though. He'll be getting ISO'd by me for sure.

#1086

Boomslang, does a careless player mean an evil player that needs to be kept on the other side of the wall?

#1087

Sloonei is replacing Bubbles.

#1088

Who's ready to be... romanced?

#1089

Sloonster!

If only you could have had time for this a week ago.

#1090

Hey, I'm not dead! No thanks to a lot of you.

Good that we nailed a baddie yesterday, though, regardless. Glad I could help in that respect.

RIP S~V~S and JJJ.

You guys are posting a LOT....I might more or less random my votes this Day.

#1091

Sloonei wrote:Who's ready to be... romanced?

ugh. why?

#1092

Golden wrote:Sloonster!

If only you could have had time for this a week ago.

This one seems to be moving at <500 posts per day, that is a big plus for me.

#1093

Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:Who's ready to be... romanced?
ugh. why?

I'm feeling sensual.

#1094

Russtifinko wrote:Hey, I'm not dead! No thanks to a lot of you.

Good that we nailed a baddie yesterday, though, regardless. Glad I could help in that respect.

RIP S~V~S and JJJ.

You guys are posting a LOT....I might more or less random my votes this Day.

Hey way to go, you really nailed that bad guy. Tell me what you did and why you deserve these kudos.

#1095

Votes are not changeable, my world is in shambles.

#1096

Russtifinko wrote:Hey, I'm not dead! No thanks to a lot of you.

Good that we nailed a baddie yesterday, though, regardless. Glad I could help in that respect.

RIP S~V~S and JJJ.

You guys are posting a LOT....I might more or less random my votes this Day.

....so do you have a single thought or no?

Any originality? Come on folks, why do we stand for this?

#1097

Scotty wrote:Linki @Caps: O rly? Where for art thou getting comfortable?

Calm down, Romeo’s in another castle.

LoRab wrote:
TheCapsFan wrote:I would be comfortable being voted for.
Are you bad?

Bad to the bone? Of course. Bad at mafia? Yes, in this instance. Am I mafia this game? No.

nutella wrote:
TheCapsFan wrote:I would be comfortable being voted for.
Is that all you have to say?

Well, I think Scotty looks pretty town. Ricochet subbed in recently, yeah? Nothing about him is giving me pings yet. I do find INH’s disappearance weird, but then again, maybe he’s also hosting a game at the same time as trying to finish summer projects and playing in a huge game with like a post a minute. But…wait, there he is...for a second, at least. Oh, and Turnip Head’s posts have gotten worse as the game has gone on.

Oh, and two successful lynches in a row is not a feat to go unnoticed.

Quin wrote:
TheCapsFan wrote:I would be comfortable being voted for.
Catching up a little. I don't like this.

I’m hurt.

#1098

As annoying as he may post, Dom seems pretty town as well.

#1099

@DDL Curious as to why you've already voted this early in the phase.

#1100

Agh, didn't see your reads, DDL. Ignore the above post. Even so, I'm not sure I'd vote this early in a phase, especially when your vote can't be changed...

#1101

TheCapsFan wrote:As annoying as he may post, Dom seems pretty town as well.

What makes you say this?

#1102

Dom wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Alright I don't have anything to add myself so I'm gonna make a proposition to you all.

Talk about the following people:

Boomslang
Bullzeye
Dragon D. Luffy
Elohcin
Nerolunar
Quin

All those are players with 5 or more posts, which posted on day 2 or later, and yet nobody seems to be talking about them.

Yes I included myself. I fit the above criteria so it's only fair. And it feels awkward when nobody wants me dead, I don't like it. Talk about me more please.

Don't have an opinion on them? Well it's a great time to ISO them. Go.
I'll GTH them. I'll humor the haters.
Boomslang - civ
Bullzeye - civ
DDL - civ
Elohcin - bad
Nerolunar - civ
Quin - civ

Elaborate on these reads, Mr. Dom. I think I see you being a vocal opponent of Scotty throughout the thread, and I also think I saw you vote for sig and DFaraday yesterday (correct me if I am wrong). Can you give me, a newcomer who's read very little, a concise version of any or all of these reads? please and thank you.

#1103

In my bits of backtracking I've seen a bit of talk about how to handle the whole two vote thing. I'm almost certainly just going to use my two votes to vote for people I think are suspicious, but if there are alternative strategies out there lay them on me.

#1104

Quin wrote:
TheCapsFan wrote:I would be comfortable being voted for.
Catching up a little. I don't like this.

Why not? Who you gonna vote for today?

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #1105

Welcome Sloonei! I think I entirely forgot about Bubbles in my post back there, in addition to forgetting that rabbit was already replaced

#1106

Hi nutella! I think this is the post you are referencing:

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nutella wrote:Inactives/low posters:
Rabbit has not shown up at all.

Soneji has not shown up at all.

Dunny has not posted since day 1. Perhaps he has forgotten about the game.

leetic only has one post from day 0. Has probably completely forgotten about the game.

DP has a total of 2 posts, one of which is a nothing and the other stating his d2 vote (not even giving reasoning). He's normally very quiet but this is pretty egregious.

TheCapsFan posted a few times on D0, but missed both d1 and d2 with just a couple check-in posts, plus the weird one today.

Niju is also quite inactive with just one D0 post and one post this Monday about how busy she is/hadn't caught up.

Bullzeye popped in briefly on both day 1 and day 2 to make uninformed votes and state that he hadn't been able to catch up.

Spacedaisy likewise; is confirmed very busy irl and voted on day 2 for self voters but has not caught up at all.

BWT has likewise admitted inability to keep up with the game.

Simon has a few posts from d0 and d2 but overall hasn't participated much.

Elohcin has similarly had trouble keeping up with the game, but I'm fairly satisfied with her Day 2 effort/participation/vote.

...That's really quite a lot. I wonder if anyone would be available to replace in for at least a couple of these people.

Players with 10-15 posts include DF, Timmer, Nerolunar, Boomslang, Russ, and Sorsha. Typical for DF, and I think he's participated a normal amount for him (mostly his back and forth with Dom). Sorsha also tends to be pretty quiet, but I would like a bit more substance from her. Timmer and Russ have been popular suspects/lynch candidates and aren't doing much about it. Nero and Boom, well, they're on DDL's list so I'll be looking into them but they've both been quite under the radar.

On to DDL's list.

Boomslang: Discussed duel mechanics/strats on d0, was away for most of d1, participated a little on d2 voting for MM and Jan. I feel pretty ok/neutral about him.

Bullzeye: see above. doesn't seem much like him to be this inactive, but idk if it's alignment indicative

Dragon D. Luffy: 3rd highest poster (2nd not counting the dead), I don't really feel like reading his whole ISO but overall I have a pretty strong civ read of him.

Elohcin: again see above. pretty inactive but I feel like she's ok alignment-wise.

Nerolunar: Kind of like DF, his participation has been low but fairly regular and decent. The only thing that gives me pause is that he voted for BWT and Timmer on D2, staying far away from the MM/Russ/Dom contest. Seems like maybe he hadn't been caught up but it would be nice to know if he had thoughts on any of that.

Quin: one of the highest posters, but that doesn't mean he hasn't blended in to some extent. I feel pretty good about him though.

OK, this isn't much but I'm gonna go ahead and post it, and then go back to the few mid-low posters that I haven't ISOed yet -- Russ, Timmer, Sorsha, and DF. After that I'm thinking I might ISO TH because a lot of people, me included, have been citing a sort of bizarre, supernatural, inexplicable odor of "something's not quite right" emanating from the general direction of the turnip.

Have you looked at those "mid-low" posters yet? Would you like to vote for any of them? What do you think of Bubbles' replacement so far?

#1107

Sloonei wrote:
Quin wrote:
TheCapsFan wrote:I would be comfortable being voted for.
Catching up a little. I don't like this.
Why not? Who you gonna vote for today?

Seems like a 'Let me prove just how town I am by volunteering to be lynched' scum tactic. It's a pretty hard ping, but without a whole lot of activity to evaluate Caps with I won't vote there today.

I'm still looking at Dom, at the very least. There's quite a bit of dialogue between us that you can look into. I can't give you an answer for my second just yet, because I really don't know.

#1108

TheCapsFan wrote:
leetic wrote:Voted for my fellow Bulbagardener as well as INH from my first game on this site.
I'm touched <3 I had no idea you were going to vote for me, otherwise I would have done the same :P

Also according to the official definition of prefect (courtesy of Turnip Head) leetic and I fit the bill perfectly, as we are both moderators of Bulbagarden.

I see CapsFan and leetic are visitors from another site. Hello, welcome, I hope you're settling in nicely! What can you guys tell me about each other?

Also, CapsFan, you mentioned in your first post that you've played with JJJ before. Is there anyone else in there who you're familiar with?

#1109

@Quin: You just named Dom as your top suspect while also expressing a "hard ping" on CapsFan. So what do you make of this post, if anything?

TheCapsFan wrote:As annoying as he may post, Dom seems pretty town as well.

#1110

Sloonei wrote:@Quin: You just named Dom as your top suspect while also expressing a "hard ping" on CapsFan. So what do you make of this post, if anything?
TheCapsFan wrote:As annoying as he may post, Dom seems pretty town as well.

I don't make anything out of it that I wouldn't to another person. The stronger I feel about Dom the more people seem to civ read him. I don't know if I'm supposed to be missing something but I feel like meta is beating out in-thread evidence. What do you think about Dom?

#1111

I figured I'd have a look at the roster and identify all the Strangers. I've not played with or have very limited experience with the following:
DisgruntledPorcupine
Dunny, unless this is diiny.
Glorfindel (I think we played a heist together a few months ago)
insertnamehere
Jan
leetic
LoRab, name is familiar but I can't recall any past game experience.
rabbit
Simon
CapsFan

That's more than I was expecting.

#1112

And while we're talking about this, I want to humor our dear night messenger dude and discuss the possibility of him being saved.

The Russ train gained quite a lot of speed at the last minute. I'm not very good at interpreting that thing Rico posted earlier, but if someone could give some insight it'd be appreciated.

#1113

Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:@Quin: You just named Dom as your top suspect while also expressing a "hard ping" on CapsFan. So what do you make of this post, if anything?
TheCapsFan wrote:As annoying as he may post, Dom seems pretty town as well.
I don't make anything out of it that I wouldn't to another person. The stronger I feel about Dom the more people seem to civ read him. I don't know if I'm supposed to be missing something but I feel like meta is beating out in-thread evidence. What do you think about Dom?

I think he is adept at acting like Donald Trump and I'd like to better understand his votes thus far.

#1114

Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:@Quin: You just named Dom as your top suspect while also expressing a "hard ping" on CapsFan. So what do you make of this post, if anything?
TheCapsFan wrote:As annoying as he may post, Dom seems pretty town as well.
I don't make anything out of it that I wouldn't to another person. The stronger I feel about Dom the more people seem to civ read him. I don't know if I'm supposed to be missing something but I feel like meta is beating out in-thread evidence. What do you think about Dom?

What things are you referencing here? How would you rate Moonrise Kingdom?

#1115

TheCapsFan wrote:Agh, didn't see your reads, DDL. Ignore the above post. Even so, I'm not sure I'd vote this early in a phase, especially when your vote can't be changed...

How and when will you be voting? TALK TO ME CAPS FAN!

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #1116

The weird thing about Russ is that he was around a little bit on day 2, but didn't really defend himself despite being on the dueling block. He just barely responded to JJJ's points about him, but basically nothing since. There was also this lynch reaction that a handful of people (myself included) didn't like. I really don't know what to think of him at this point tbh. The things that JJJ pointed out were never particularly incriminating IMO, but his style has been weird and, as I said of MM, rather cavalier

Did he give up on defending himself from the bandwagon? Was he quite confident that he was going to win the duel, and just not bother getting worried?

Since I started writing this post he's made another check-in post that's really no more than that, and he says he'll probably "more-or-less random" vote today due to not catching up. I'm kinda feeling worse and worse about his style/participation here -- in fact it's pretty much the same feeling I got from MM. Russ is climbing back up toward the top of my list for today.

Timmer has very few posts of substance -- like many others he couldn't keep up with the thread, but his drive-by vote was pretty suspicious. He's defended it twice and seems to think it was a perfectly fine thing for a civ to do. I'm rather inclined to disagree, but I suppose I could see him feeling genuinely ok about it. But the fact that he voted for the two runner-ups to MM is very suspicious. Especially looking at where he voted on Rico's handy chart -- MM was in the lead but Dom and Russ were pretty close behind, and Timmer brought them even closer. Doesn't look good. I may very well vote for him again today.

Sorsha has popped in a few times and not caught up/participated in the thread discussion much but she has brought in her own unique perspective on some random stuff. Like she wanted to go after the prefects and thought they might be more likely to have teammates, which is actually not an unreasonable point, but her attitude when asked about it was a little odd. When asked about the main candidates on day 2 she said she didn't suspect Dom, wasn't sure about Russ, but "would be ok with an MM vote" but then she voted for herself and INH. Tbh that strikes me as the kind of thing a teammate might do -- saying she's ok with that bandwagon but not actually joining it -- but the fact that she voted for herself and another non-vote-getter is a less suspicious way to uninformedly vote than timmer's.

DF seems to me like his usual self, and has been completely reasonable in his back and forth with Dom. I think he's good.

#1117

Sloonei wrote:
Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:@Quin: You just named Dom as your top suspect while also expressing a "hard ping" on CapsFan. So what do you make of this post, if anything?
TheCapsFan wrote:As annoying as he may post, Dom seems pretty town as well.
I don't make anything out of it that I wouldn't to another person. The stronger I feel about Dom the more people seem to civ read him. I don't know if I'm supposed to be missing something but I feel like meta is beating out in-thread evidence. What do you think about Dom?
What things are you referencing here? How would you rate Moonrise Kingdom?

Posts like this:

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By Ricochet: (Though I find that he tends to go between meta and evidence - a good look, actually)

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1. It murks the lines between being confrontational with your sussers simply because it's in your persona's bloodstream and actually disapproving or deflecting suspicions in a valid way. This is a entirely hollow banter reaction to JJJ finding your suss on Bass to be weak. This is just one example of how blurry the line between 'spittin' Domald' and NO U'ing can get - and frankly, I tend to label NO U'ing Dom as bad Dom. I basically don't spot any player to have suspected you that didn't get this treatment: JJJ and DFaraday most of all, to a lesser extent nutella, Quin, Scotty.

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I mean, there are some better examples but they're long lost in the thread and I don't remember who said them to check them out. Just searching for 'Dom' doesn't help because it yields like 200 searches per page.

Also, it was great. My favourite part was when he got struck by lightning.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #1118

Sloonei wrote:Hi nutella! I think this is the post you are referencing:
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nutella wrote:Inactives/low posters:
Rabbit has not shown up at all.

Soneji has not shown up at all.

Dunny has not posted since day 1. Perhaps he has forgotten about the game.

leetic only has one post from day 0. Has probably completely forgotten about the game.

DP has a total of 2 posts, one of which is a nothing and the other stating his d2 vote (not even giving reasoning). He's normally very quiet but this is pretty egregious.

TheCapsFan posted a few times on D0, but missed both d1 and d2 with just a couple check-in posts, plus the weird one today.

Niju is also quite inactive with just one D0 post and one post this Monday about how busy she is/hadn't caught up.

Bullzeye popped in briefly on both day 1 and day 2 to make uninformed votes and state that he hadn't been able to catch up.

Spacedaisy likewise; is confirmed very busy irl and voted on day 2 for self voters but has not caught up at all.

BWT has likewise admitted inability to keep up with the game.

Simon has a few posts from d0 and d2 but overall hasn't participated much.

Elohcin has similarly had trouble keeping up with the game, but I'm fairly satisfied with her Day 2 effort/participation/vote.

...That's really quite a lot. I wonder if anyone would be available to replace in for at least a couple of these people.

Players with 10-15 posts include DF, Timmer, Nerolunar, Boomslang, Russ, and Sorsha. Typical for DF, and I think he's participated a normal amount for him (mostly his back and forth with Dom). Sorsha also tends to be pretty quiet, but I would like a bit more substance from her. Timmer and Russ have been popular suspects/lynch candidates and aren't doing much about it. Nero and Boom, well, they're on DDL's list so I'll be looking into them but they've both been quite under the radar.

On to DDL's list.

Boomslang: Discussed duel mechanics/strats on d0, was away for most of d1, participated a little on d2 voting for MM and Jan. I feel pretty ok/neutral about him.

Bullzeye: see above. doesn't seem much like him to be this inactive, but idk if it's alignment indicative

Dragon D. Luffy: 3rd highest poster (2nd not counting the dead), I don't really feel like reading his whole ISO but overall I have a pretty strong civ read of him.

Elohcin: again see above. pretty inactive but I feel like she's ok alignment-wise.

Nerolunar: Kind of like DF, his participation has been low but fairly regular and decent. The only thing that gives me pause is that he voted for BWT and Timmer on D2, staying far away from the MM/Russ/Dom contest. Seems like maybe he hadn't been caught up but it would be nice to know if he had thoughts on any of that.

Quin: one of the highest posters, but that doesn't mean he hasn't blended in to some extent. I feel pretty good about him though.

OK, this isn't much but I'm gonna go ahead and post it, and then go back to the few mid-low posters that I haven't ISOed yet -- Russ, Timmer, Sorsha, and DF. After that I'm thinking I might ISO TH because a lot of people, me included, have been citing a sort of bizarre, supernatural, inexplicable odor of "something's not quite right" emanating from the general direction of the turnip.
Have you looked at those "mid-low" posters yet? Would you like to vote for any of them? What do you think of Bubbles' replacement so far?

Just finished that post, and yes, most likely Timmer and maybe Russ. I think you're looking good so far.

#1119

Sloonei wrote:
Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:@Quin: You just named Dom as your top suspect while also expressing a "hard ping" on CapsFan. So what do you make of this post, if anything?
TheCapsFan wrote:As annoying as he may post, Dom seems pretty town as well.
I don't make anything out of it that I wouldn't to another person. The stronger I feel about Dom the more people seem to civ read him. I don't know if I'm supposed to be missing something but I feel like meta is beating out in-thread evidence. What do you think about Dom?
I think he is adept at acting like Donald Trump and I'd like to better understand his votes thus far.

Good luck.

TheCapsFan wrote:@DDL Curious as to why you've already voted this early in the phase.

If anyone had voted for you early on, you probably wouldn't be asking this. Since you basically asked us to cast you as Russell Crowe in Gladiator.

#1120

Actually, I did forget about timmer when I was answering your first question, Sloonei.

He's on my list. Probably not number one, but he's on there.

#1121

insertnamehere wrote:
Scotty wrote:To an extent, I think it is suspicious for someone to campaign to have a responsibility to the people and not show up. It's like he hopped on the one-way bus in San Francisco and now he's in Thailand without a phone. How did he get there? Any word would help.
I did a shitty thing, I realize. I severely misjudged how much extra time I'd have over a very limited amount of days. I messed up. But I'm now here and ready to play.

Thanks for sending your hologram here to tell us you're around.

So you're ready to play? Any...thoughts on the game? Or are you ready to play the silent game? You've been doing well at that game it to this point.

Dom wrote:So Scotty-- did INH tell you in BTSC he'd show up later or????

Or

#1122

nutella wrote:The weird thing about Russ is that he was around a little bit on day 2, but didn't really defend himself despite being on the dueling block. He just barely responded to JJJ's points about him, but basically nothing since. There was also this lynch reaction that a handful of people (myself included) didn't like. I really don't know what to think of him at this point tbh. The things that JJJ pointed out were never particularly incriminating IMO, but his style has been weird and, as I said of MM, rather cavalier Did he give up on defending himself from the bandwagon? Was he quite confident that he was going to win the duel, and just not bother getting worried?

Since I started writing this post he's made another check-in post that's really no more than that, and he says he'll probably "more-or-less random" vote today due to not catching up. I'm kinda feeling worse and worse about his style/participation here -- in fact it's pretty much the same feeling I got from MM. Russ is climbing back up toward the top of my list for today.

Timmer has very few posts of substance -- like many others he couldn't keep up with the thread, but his drive-by vote was pretty suspicious. He's defended it twice and seems to think it was a perfectly fine thing for a civ to do. I'm rather inclined to disagree, but I suppose I could see him feeling genuinely ok about it. But the fact that he voted for the two runner-ups to MM is very suspicious. Especially looking at where he voted on Rico's handy chart -- MM was in the lead but Dom and Russ were pretty close behind, and Timmer brought them even closer. Doesn't look good. I may very well vote for him again today.

Sorsha has popped in a few times and not caught up/participated in the thread discussion much but she has brought in her own unique perspective on some random stuff. Like she wanted to go after the prefects and thought they might be more likely to have teammates, which is actually not an unreasonable point, but her attitude when asked about it was a little odd. When asked about the main candidates on day 2 she said she didn't suspect Dom, wasn't sure about Russ, but "would be ok with an MM vote" but then she voted for herself and INH. Tbh that strikes me as the kind of thing a teammate might do -- saying she's ok with that bandwagon but not actually joining it -- but the fact that she voted for herself and another non-vote-getter is a less suspicious way to uninformedly vote than timmer's.

DF seems to me like his usual self, and has been completely reasonable in his back and forth with Dom. I think he's good.

I see what you mean RE: Russ, I've looked over a couple of his posts and he seems to just be faintly here.

I've not looked at anything posted by timmer or sorsha yet. I can say that the one time I played with timmer before he was my strongest town read in the game right off the bat, so if that's not the case this time he must be scum. I'll have to have a look.

Could you elaborate more on sorsha's "odd attitude" toward the prefect thing?

#1123

@quin, my bad I quoted the wrong post.

Quin wrote:And while we're talking about this, I want to humor our dear night messenger dude and discuss the possibility of him being saved.

The Russ train gained quite a lot of speed at the last minute. I'm not very good at interpreting that thing Rico posted earlier, but if someone could give some insight it'd be appreciated.

What things are you referencing here?

#1124

Hey Scotty I am a mindless sheep and you are my shepherd. Tell me who to vote for.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #1125

Sloonei wrote: Could you elaborate more on sorsha's "odd attitude" toward the prefect thing?

These three posts have a sort of sassy/taunting/dismissive tone when asked why she wants prefects to duel

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #1126

Sloonei wrote:@quin, my bad I quoted the wrong post.
Quin wrote:And while we're talking about this, I want to humor our dear night messenger dude and discuss the possibility of him being saved.

The Russ train gained quite a lot of speed at the last minute. I'm not very good at interpreting that thing Rico posted earlier, but if someone could give some insight it'd be appreciated.
What things are you referencing here?

The "messenger dude" bit refers to the message from the role Zhuge Liang, posted here.

"That thing Rico posted" is this lovely chart that shows how the votes evolved.

#1127

I looked at timmer's posts. I find this series of posts to be at least somewhat believable:

timmer wrote:I'm not understanding this game yet. I'll get into it soon though.

timmer wrote:I'm so lost.

timmer wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
timmer wrote:I'm so lost.
What is troubling you timmer-san... mechanics or suspicions?
Mechanics and the sheer volume of the game. I don't know how to follow such a wordy game. But I'll get engaged soon I just need a day of.

I know the feeling of being helplessly behind in a game. It can be daunting and frustrating. However this is not something that I'd categorize as being alignment-indicative, so I'll reserve judgment either way until more things have happened.
Hi timmer, I am no more caught up on things than you are. I've only just got here and read <10% of the thread. Tell me what you think of nutella's analysis of you in this post?

#1128

nutella wrote:
Sloonei wrote: Could you elaborate more on sorsha's "odd attitude" toward the prefect thing?

These three posts have a sort of sassy/taunting/dismissive tone when asked why she wants prefects to duel

Solid observation. I look forward to sorsha's response.

#1129

Sloonei wrote:@quin, my bad I quoted the wrong post.
Quin wrote:And while we're talking about this, I want to humor our dear night messenger dude and discuss the possibility of him being saved.

The Russ train gained quite a lot of speed at the last minute. I'm not very good at interpreting that thing Rico posted earlier, but if someone could give some insight it'd be appreciated.
What things are you referencing here?

noob

Here's the actual 'thing'. It was briefly discussed a little around page 25 if you're keen. I get the premise of it but my head hurts looking at it.

Voter	10 votes	9 votes	8 votes	7 votes	6 votes	5 votes	4 votes	3 votes	2 votes	1 vote
Simon*	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	JaggedJimmyJay, Simon
Scotty	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	Dom, MM, JaggedJimmyJay, Simon
Jan	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	MM	Dom, JaggedJimmyJay, Simon, Turnip
DFaraday	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	MM	Dom	JaggedJimmyJay, Simon, Turnip
DDL	-	-	-	-	-	-	MM	-	Dom	JaggedJimmyJay, Simon, Russ, Turnip
Quin	-	-	-	-	-	MM	-	Dom	-	JaggedJimmyJay, Simon, Russ, Turnip
Mac	-	-	-	-	-	MM	-	Dom	Russ	Dunny, JaggedJimmyJay, Simon, Turnip
Dom	-	-	-	-	-	MM	-	Dom	Russ	DFaraday, Dunny, JaggedJimmyJay, Sig, Simon, Turnip
Ninja	-	-	-	-	-	MM	-	Dom	Russ	DFaraday, Dunny, Glorfindel, Golden, JaggedJimmyJay, Sig, Simon, Turnip
BWT*	-	-	-	-	-	MM	-	Dom	Russ	BWT, DFaraday, Dunny, Glorfindel, Golden, Jan, JaggedJimmyJay, Sig, Simon, Turnip
timmer	-	-	-	-	-	MM	Dom	Russ	-	BWT, DFaraday, Dunny, Glorfindel, Golden, Jan, JaggedJimmyJay, Sig, Simon, Turnip
Nerolunar	-	-	-	-	-	MM	Dom	Russ	BWT	DFaraday, Dunny, Glorfindel, Golden, Jan, JaggedJimmyJay, Sig, Simon, timmer, Turnip
Bass*	-	-	-	-	MM	-	Dom	Russ	BWT	Bass, DFaraday, Dunny, Glorfindel, Golden, Jan, JaggedJimmyJay, Sig, Simon, timmer, Turnip
Bull*	-	-	-	-	MM	-	Dom	Russ	BWT	Bass, Bull, DFaraday, Dunny, Glorfindel, Golden, Jan, JaggedJimmyJay, Sig, Simon, timmer, Turnip
JJJ	-	-	-	-	MM	-	Dom, Russ	-	BWT, timmer	Bass, Bull, DFaraday, Dunny, Glorfindel, Golden, Jan, JaggedJimmyJay, Sig, Simon, Turnip
MP	-	-	-	-	MM	-	Dom, Russ	timmer	BWT	Bass, Bull, DFaraday, Dunny, Glorfindel, Golden, Jan, JaggedJimmyJay, nutella, Sig, Simon, Turnip
Sorsha*	-	-	-	-	MM	-	Dom, Russ	timmer	BWT	Bass, Bull, DFaraday, Dunny, Glorfindel, Golden, INH, Jan, JaggedJimmyJay, nutella, Sig, Simon, Sorsha,Turnip
Spacedaisy	-	-	-	-	MM	-	Dom, Russ	BWT,timmer	Bass	Bull, DFaraday, Dunny, Glorfindel, Golden, INH, Jan, JaggedJimmyJay, nutella, Sig, Simon, Sorsha, Turnip
Elohcin	-	-	-	MM	-	Russ	Dom	BWT, timmer	Bass	Bull, DFaraday, Dunny, Glorfindel, Golden, INH, Jan, JaggedJimmyJay, nutella, Sig, Simon, Sorsha, Turnip
Golden	-	-	-	MM	Russ	-	Dom, timmer	BWT	Bass	Bull, DFaraday, Dunny, Glorfindel, Golden, INH, Jan, JaggedJimmyJay, nutella, Sig, Simon, Sorsha, Turnip
Glorfindel	-	-	-	MM	Russ	Dom	timmer	BWT	Bass, Sorsha	Bull, DFaraday, Dunny, Glorfindel, Golden, INH, Jan, JaggedJimmyJay, nutella, Sig, Simon, Turnip
Turnip	-	-	MM	-	Russ	Dom	timmer	BWT	Bass, Sig, Sorsha	Bull, DFaraday, Dunny, Glorfindel, Golden, INH, Jan, JaggedJimmyJay, nutella, Simon, Turnip
LoRab*	-	-	MM	-	Russ	Dom	timmer	BWT	Bass, Sig, Sorsha	Bull, DFaraday, Dunny, Glorfindel, Golden, INH, Jan, JaggedJimmyJay, leetic, LoRab, nutella, Simon, Turnip
DP	-	-	MM	Russ	-	Dom, timmer	-	BWT	Bass, Sig, Sorsha	Bull, DFaraday, Dunny, Glorfindel, Golden, INH, Jan, JaggedJimmyJay, leetic, LoRab, nutella, sig, Simon, Turnip
Boomslang	-	MM	-	Russ	-	Dom, timmer	-	BWT	Bass, Jan, Sig, Sorsha	Bull, DFaraday, Dunny, Glorfindel, Golden, INH, JaggedJimmyJay, leetic, LoRab, nutella, sig, Simon, Turnip
nutella	MM	-	-	Russ	timmer	Dom	-	BWT	Bass, Jan, Sig, Sorsha	Bull, DFaraday, Dunny, Glorfindel, Golden, INH, JaggedJimmyJay, leetic, LoRab, nutella, sig, Simon, Turnip
MM	MM	-	Russ	-	Dom, timmer	-	-	BWT	Bass, Jan, Sig, Sorsha	Bull, DFaraday, Dunny, Glorfindel, Golden, INH, JaggedJimmyJay, leetic, LoRab, nutella, sig, Simon, Turnip

#1130

It feels great to be mafiaing again after having to drop out of that one game last week. I was itching to get back at it ever since. But I also was not expecting to be thrust into a game suddenly tonight, so I've already spent much more time here than I was intending and now it is absolutely pivotal that I go watch Breaking Bad until I fall asleep. I'll be back and full of questions bright and early tomorrow morning, my fellow dynasty warriors.

linki @ quin: tl;dr

Who is a threat to the Han? Appoint two for the duel.