Game Over! Monty Python and the Holy Grail

[LoRab]

Is Blooper another name for you, nijuukyugou?

[Marmot]

I see MM had nothing to say in response to my re-explanation of why I find him suspicious. I also have a problem with his vote for LoRab, which he said was 'until she explains why she finds him suspicious'. She offered an explanation and his vote stuck, which makes me feel like it was basically just a NO U.

Now that's not fair. I haven't been on since then.

And as I said before, I wanted an answer from LoRab. I had asked before, and she didn't answer, so I knew a vote might get her attention more.

No, you didn't. I just read through all of your posts since I replaced in and do not see a post where you asked me. If I'm missing it, please link to where you asked me before.

Unless maybe you asked your teammates in BTSC why they thought I might suspect you?

My apologies, I did not remember correctly what I posted. This was all I had said.

If you meant that as a question or clarification, it really did not read that way. I'm still not sure why you say at the beginning of the lynch that I had never stated why I suspected you.

Probably because you never did, at least not before I asked today.

[Marmot]

Right, I have to go out so I am voting now. MetalMarsh's latest posts appealing to me for opinions and claiming he isn't scared of being lynched make me feel nervous about him, and I think Mongoose is unlikely to be bad, so I will vote for MM.

And what about those two votes for me right there at the end of the day. Do those make you feel nervous?

Btw, I'm voting Mongoose for obvious reasons. Sorry Mongoose.

[Marmot]

Okay, back. Whew. Whirlwind today in the world of Real Life, and catching a brief moment before more guests arrive. SO.

Firstly, a belated RIP God (sorry about that, Lord/SVS - I really did think you were bad!) and RIP BWT.

Secondly, I've been seeing posts about Mongoose giving people baddie vibes throughout the game, but I don't see it. Her gameplay seems fairly normal to me, but perhaps I haven't played with her enough to know? I don't see her "red herring" comment to be out of the blue or a BTSC slip-up, as people are saying, although I would like to know more about what she's trying to say (but perhaps she just...can't? Possibility). I don't intend to put my vote there.

Out of the people on the list today, I think LC and MM are most likely to be bad that I can see. LC pinged me with the sudden outburst at llama for his BTSC/Chatzy comment and using that particular instance as his apparent time to go after him. He claims he's been after him under the radar since the beginning, but I didn't see it (probably because it was "under the radar," but if you feel it, say it). As for MM, I re-read him (and lordy, was it a re-read...so many posts :P ) and while in the beginning I wasn't seeing much wrong, especially with what people were using against him (the French comment, the Epi comments, etc., which I found relatively normal), his final adamant Made vote disturbed me because he had a pretty good reason to believe he was Lancelot, and said so, but still voted for him. LC did the same thing. Yeah, y'all weren't 100% sure, but you had good reason to believe he had a definite Civ role over others on the poll.

And now, MM claims he's not worried about being lynched. That's weird. That's really weird. Is it protection? Or assuming that people won't bother to vote for you? I'm going with MM.

And the amazing disappearing Blooper performs her tricks again, playing the good Party Host until later tonight. POOF!

Also, time for more beer. Oh so much more beer.

If I had time to try and save Made, I would have. Unfortunately, Made had more than 10 votes at the time, I had no free time to dedicate, and the day was almost over. Just too many forces going against me on that one.

Of course I'm worried I'll be lynched, but I'm not afraid of it happening, if you get my drift.

[LoRab]

Probably because you never did, at least not before I asked today.

Except that I did. My initial post that says that not only your initial French comment but also (and especially) your comments following up set off my suspiciometer. Also, our back and forth about the epi stuff. Here are all the posts quoted for context.

The fact that you continue to lie about this (even after you admitted that you had never asked me for more information) does not ease my suspicion of you at all.

I know they're in the film and aren't friendly. I just think it's odd you seem to assume they're the/a baddie team (and mention them specifically) when the only known baddie role has no affiliation with them.

There are 25 players in this game; the parity has to exist somewhere.

And no I'm not assuming that anyone who has BTSC is bad, I'm putting the idea up for discussion.

It just felt strange to me that of all the possibilities you came up with one specific one for a group of people. Nobody else seems to have picked up on it so maybe I'm just crazy but it's something I felt funny about so I brought it up.

It's not just you. It pinged me, as well. Especially with her (his?) answers since you brought it up.

Oy. I was set to catch up and vote this afternoon, and started to do the first of those, and then someone came into my office, and then by the time I was looking at a computer again it was too late. RIP MR. As I said earlier, I didn't see reason for suspicion of him. Having now read through the last day of the thread--nice bandwagon. I need to look back and see some of its starts and where the seeds were planted. I would have voted Made, or maybe MM. My feelings of neither of them has changed.

Even if it were as you described, I don't see me basing my team's voting plan on Llama's Opinion. I hear you're a smart guy, Llama, but I don't know that I would place that much faith in your opinion.

Don't play this game unless you REALLY know what your doing or REALLY don't.

It's gotta be either genuine stupidity or calculated stupidity to work. Trust me I'm stupid.

Neither, I don't think. I don't think he's appearing stupid, first of all. And he certainly isn't stupid. I think he's just being him. He knows what he's doing--he's smart as fuck and is one of the very few players who have been at this longer than I have who are still playing. I don't see why you think he's trying to appear stupid, though. I guess I don't get what you're saying.

LC is far from stupid, Made.

Dana, any opinion on Bullz? Bea? Anyone?

Didn't mean to imply they were.
I'm just saying it's hard to argue for those accusing you with out either being blissfully ignorant or have the situation awareness to you how far you can go to avoid suspicion, then the lack of common sense to go above and beyond that.

Yo, SVS, is there a term for voting in hopes of getting others to vote someone? Because I've noticed that happens a lot.

Woah-linki kinda related? Basically mafia vote getting tactics.

Double related linki

It's called starting a bandwagon.

Remember fellow townies, it's not too late to change your vote, nor is it too late to place your vote on a scum-aligned player.

And, why should we believe you? And oh, wait, you were wrong. Also, if you could explain your reasons for your opinions, it would be helpful for me.

As for Epi, here you will find his death. He was the rabbit who killed several of Arthur's knights in the film. While we don't yet know how bad he is, we at least know he's an indy, and I'd be willing to bet that we need him dead to win. We'll find out soon I think, either way.

What do you mean by this?

What will we find out soon enough and how? And how do you know this?

Right, but that doesn't answer my question. I'm familiar with the source material, I get the gist of your feelings about him. What I don't understand is when you say, "While we don't yet know how bad he is, we at least know he's an indy, and I'd be willing to bet that we need him dead to win. We'll find out soon I think, either way."

How will we soon find out that we need him dead to win and/or how bad he is (was)?

linkitis: @God: Awwwww. Thanks. You're a kind and compassionate God, clearly.

And I agree the Rabbit was bad news.

Right, but that doesn't answer my question. I'm familiar with the source material, I get the gist of your feelings about him. What I don't understand is when you say, "While we don't yet know how bad he is, we at least know he's an indy, and I'd be willing to bet that we need him dead to win. We'll find out soon I think, either way."

How will we soon find out that we need him dead to win and/or how bad he is (was)?

linkitis: @God: Awwwww. Thanks. You're a kind and compassionate God, clearly.

And I agree the Rabbit was bad news.

Indies are wild cards, their win conditions sometimes align with civvies and sometimes don't. That's what I'm getting at. I thought we might find out, and fortunately God has told us.

Uh....God has shared God's opinion. God does not necessarily have any more knowledge than the rest of us.

And I do understand how indy roles work. I still don't see how you think/thought we'd soon know how bad the rabbit is and/or if we needed him dead or not.

[Marmot]

Change of plans, I'm voting juliets. No need for extra speculation.

Bea's and Hedgeowl's votes at the very end deserve looking into, especially Bea.

And I believe y'all should look extra hard at llama tomorrow.

Linki: hold on

[Marmot]

LoRab.

Okay you did make one post about a ping, but since the context wasn't there, I did not notice it as I reread.

The rest of your posts are questions/disagreements/interactions. Those are different. Those are not suspicions.

And about my vote for you, it's a strategy I've used and seen before, though not so much on this site. Placing a vote on someone is an easy way to get there attention when you want it, and that was all I wanted at the time.

[LoRab]

LoRab.

Okay you did make one post about a ping, but since the context wasn't there, I did not notice it as I reread.

The rest of your posts are questions/disagreements/interactions. Those are different. Those are not suspicions.

And about my vote for you, it's a strategy I've used and seen before, though not so much on this site. Placing a vote on someone is an easy way to get there attention when you want it, and that was all I wanted at the time.

Challenging people and pointing things out that I notice are off is a way I show I suspect them. I don't really see them as different. But I guess we have different mafia backgrounds.

And I was never concerned about your vote for me, really. Other than wondering if it might have been forced. And I always pay attention, especially when my name is mentioned--that's all you'd have had to do. What concerns me is that you lied about my never having explained what I found suspicious about you.

[DisgruntledPorcupine]

MetalMarsh's metabolic processes are now history! He was Brother Maynard. A Civvie.

Night 6 has begun.

[Roxy]

Day 6

Which of the non-winners shall perish?
Poll runs till Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:38:55 pm
You may select 1 option


fingersplints
0
No votes
Hedgeowl
0
No votes
juliets
2
Keterman (6), Metalmarsh89 (23) 9%
Long Con
0
No votes
LoRab
0
No votes
Metalmarsh89
7
Bullzeye (8), LoRab (13), thellama73 (16), nijuukyugou (17), bea (18), Hedgeowl (20), Mongoose (22) 30%
Mongoose
5
Canucklehead (7), juliets (10), Long Con (11), fingersplints (12), Boogs (19) 22%
Roxy (hosts, deads, nons, etc.)
9
DisgruntledPorcupine (1), Roxy (2), birdwithteeth11 (3), MovingPictures07 (4), Enrique (5), S~V~S (9), Mister Rearranger (14), Made (15), Epignosis (21) 39%
Total votes : 23

[LoRab]

Dammit. I hate being wrong.

[Bullzeye]

Dammit. I hate being wrong.

Me too. I don't understand why he changed his vote to JC at the last minute though. At first I thought he had a lynch switch or something but since he clearly didn't I'm not sure what his aim was there other than to make himself less saveable.

[Boogs]

Dammit. I hate being wrong.

Me too. I don't understand why he changed his vote to JC at the last minute though. At first I thought he had a lynch switch or something but since he clearly didn't I'm not sure what his aim was there other than to make himself less saveable.

^

[Quokka]

Dammit. I hate being wrong.

Me too. I don't understand why he changed his vote to JC at the last minute though. At first I thought he had a lynch switch or something but since he clearly didn't I'm not sure what his aim was there other than to make himself less saveable.

^

I have no idea what this is supposed to mean

Only being able to post at night means I have to catch up. See you soon, living

[Bullzeye]

Dammit. I hate being wrong.

Me too. I don't understand why he changed his vote to JC at the last minute though. At first I thought he had a lynch switch or something but since he clearly didn't I'm not sure what his aim was there other than to make himself less saveable.

^

Since you clearly keep trying to indicate you think I'm bad I can't wait to hear why. Usually curses end when night begins but anyway, all I remember from you regarding me is a hypocritical and plain wrong accusation of me being blendy. So I'd like to hear more.

[Marmot]

Dammit. I hate being wrong.

I also dislike it when you're wrong.

[Boogs]

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[juliets]

Well RIP Metalmarsh, I'm sorry you won't be playing anymore.

Your vote for me though really has me scratching my head. I would have though you would be trying to save yourself.

Boogs, I don't understand that last emoticon post about Bullz. If you are trying to persuade us he is bad you're going to have to use words I'm afraid.

Keterman you have been utterly silent. I don't know if that means you were silenced but could vote, which is different than the silencings we've seen. Anyway, what matters to me is that you explain your vote whether you were prevented from doing it before or you just chose not to.

Mongoose i noticed you did respond to the votes for you but you still didn't explain what you meant by Canuck being a red herring. Could you please explain so I can rethink how i'm thinking about you if the explanation makes sense. (I didn't see an explanation, hopefully I didn't miss it).

As I said earlier, I am rethinking who I think is bad and who I think is good. I probably won't be on in the morning before we go to the game but I'll revise my list by tomorrow night. Is there anyone else out there with changed suspicions? I don't really want to be the only one posting a list.

[Quokka]

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What the holy fuck???

[a2thezebra]

I have a gut scum read on juliets and since no one else is looking bad at the moment, my vote's going to her. It could change later in the day though, LoRab isn't looking great either. Mongoose is town methinks, and I don't understand the wagon on her.

[juliets]

I have a gut scum read on juliets and since no one else is looking bad at the moment, my vote's going to her. It could change later in the day though, LoRab isn't looking great either. Mongoose is town methinks, and I don't understand the wagon on her.

You don't know me very well and you will find out that your gut where I am concerned is wrong.

[juliets]

Oh, and Keterman, I forgot to ask - why did Mongoose say Canuck was a red herring?

[bea]

well crap. RIP MM - sorry I was wrong.

[a2thezebra]

I have a gut scum read on juliets and since no one else is looking bad at the moment, my vote's going to her. It could change later in the day though, LoRab isn't looking great either. Mongoose is town methinks, and I don't understand the wagon on her.

You don't know me very well and you will find out that your gut where I am concerned is wrong.

Stronger read now, if you were town you would've questioned why that post seemed like a day post when it is night. Instead you are just concerned with my read.

[juliets]

I have a gut scum read on juliets and since no one else is looking bad at the moment, my vote's going to her. It could change later in the day though, LoRab isn't looking great either. Mongoose is town methinks, and I don't understand the wagon on her.

You don't know me very well and you will find out that your gut where I am concerned is wrong.

Stronger read now, if you were town you would've questioned why that post seemed like a day post when it is night. Instead you are just concerned with my read.

I don't know what you are talking about. What post would I have questioned as seeming like a day post?? I have never questioned a post saying it seemed like a day or a night post so this really doesnt make much sense. Also, you should be careful about saying "if you were town you would do so-and-so" or "if you are bad you would do such-and-such". Each individual plays the game differently.

[fingersplints]

RIP MM. I felt like some of the votes there were a bit suspicious, and seemed like it was out of nowhere to save Mongoose. Lorab was talking about him for a while, so I think hers could be genuinely misguided.

[a2thezebra]

hehehehehehehehehheheheheheh

[fingersplints]

juliets I think he means that post of his about voting for you was posted clearly after the lynch was over and MM was lynched.
I just assumed he had meant to post it earlier but forgot to submit but from these comments I guess not.
Not sure why a civvie or baddie would do that tbh :/

[fingersplints]

(sorry if you are not a he, Keterman)

[Mister Rearranger]

Keterman appears to be quite a few "he"s

hehehehehehehehehheheheheheh

[LoRab]

I have a gut scum read on juliets and since no one else is looking bad at the moment, my vote's going to her. It could change later in the day though, LoRab isn't looking great either. Mongoose is town methinks, and I don't understand the wagon on her.

I'm going with you were silenced? Since this sounds like your vote post.

Why don't you think I look great? I looked totally cute today and will again tomorrow. But seriously, eye me all you want. I have nothing to hide.

(and since you're new to me, I'll caveat that that's how I always respond to suspicion--especially general suspicion. It's just a me thing--it's where my smiley comes from).

[Bullzeye]

RIP MM. I felt like some of the votes there were a bit suspicious, and seemed like it was out of nowhere to save Mongoose. Lorab was talking about him for a while, so I think hers could be genuinely misguided.

I was actually surprised so many people jumped onto that vote. I'd had a gut feeling about MM for most of the game but it seemed like nobody other than LoRab really agreed with me until today. There was definitely something fishy going on there.

[thellama73]

I don't understand why MM said he wasn't afraid of being lynched. That was such a suspicious thing to say. Maybe when his role goes up on the front page we will get some insight. I thought he was going to flip The Black Knight, who I assumed would be bad, on the basis of his comment.

Anyway, I'm sorry MM.

[Roxy]

What the holy fuck???

[juliets]

I'm not going to do the Dennis thing and list all the players including who i think is good, but here is who I'm taking a second and third look look at because I'm leaning bad:

Mongoose - well, my case on her is so recent I don't really have to take a second look. Plus, it looks like there was a save going on for her in the last lynch.
llama - SVS seemed sure he is bad and he seemed to pooh pooh the thought of Mongoose being bad. Also looks like part of a mongoose save.
blooper and bea - I will re-read but it looks like they are part of the Mongoose save. They could just be misguided civs but their votes pinged me.
(hedgie and lorab also voted for MM but I see them more as a misguided civs)

There are others that have given me a ping but have not reached the bottom of the list.

So there are 4 people who are pinging me right now with mongoose and llama the more serious pings. I'd like to know who is pinging others so we can discuss the people at the bottom of our lists.

[fingersplints]

mine is the same juliets. My only concern about llama is that Mongoose, I believe, is friends with llama and am worried she took advantage of that and the suspicion on him to buddy up to him in thread. (I don't mean that at all malicious since "take advantage" can sound that way. I'll be the first to admit as a baddie I always find a civvie ally in the thread to try and stick with) Signs are pointing to teammates, but that is just my one concern atm.

[fingersplints]

EBWOP: I'd add Boogs to list.

[juliets]

EBWOP: I'd add Boogs to list.

I still have him in the bottom of my middle group if that makes sense.

[fingersplints]

EBWOP: I'd add Boogs to list.

I still have him in the bottom of my middle group if that makes sense.

I get you. I just feel like he is falling under the radar with a convenient posting restriction.

[Bullzeye]

EBWOP: I'd add Boogs to list.

I still have him in the bottom of my middle group if that makes sense.

I get you. I just feel like he is falling under the radar with a convenient posting restriction.

To be honest, it seems weird to me that someone who has less than 40 posts at this stage in the game would be cursed at all. Wouldn't you use powers like that on more involved players? It's like silencing a low-poster.

[fingersplints]

I agree bullz. Doesn't make sense to me. Like I said it's too convenient. The only reason I can think is that it is his role or a teammates role. He couldn't have anticipated half the players being off the poll. Maybe someone assumed he would be getting some attention that day period

[nijuukyugou]

Damn, sorry MM And now I see what you meant by worried, yet not worried. Doh.

Boogs' posts are confusing me, and it's odd that he's still posting like that both in the Day and Night periods. I wonder what the deal is? I see others are having similar thoughts. I will read and evaluate and offer thoughts later (about that and other things), but it may not be tonight, as I just got back into town and still have to go to the store, do laundry, grade papers, and generally be an adult and have responsibilities tonight I will do my best.

Voting "coconuts migrate," because well, they do.

Is Blooper another name for you, nijuukyugou?

I am also known by Blooper, among many names of delicious candies and confections! (Although, as I said at some other point, I don't think Bloopy candy would be very delicious.) You are welcome to shorten and mix up my name in the thread because I know the name is a ridiculous alphabet soup (but it does have meaning! I promise!).

[Roxy]

Can a 5 ounce bird carry a 1 pound coconut?
Poll runs till Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:44:49 pm
You may select 1 option


By the Husk
1
fingersplints (11) 7%
Coconuts Migrate
2
Boogs (6), thellama73 (14) 13%
An African Swallow
2
LoRab (7), juliets (10) 13%
Two Swallows Together
3
Bullzeye (8), Long Con (12), bea (15) 20%
Oh, yeah, an African swallow maybe, but not a European swallow, that's my point/Hosts/GOD/Mod/and the rest
7
S~V~S (1), Roxy (2), Made (3), Metalmarsh89 (4), GOD (5), DisgruntledPorcupine (9), Mister Rearranger (13) 47%
Total votes : 15

[Roxy]

Keterman has been Nk'ed he was The Dead Collector - a Civvie.
It is now day 7.

[Roxy]

[Long Con]

I searched back a bunch of pages (ten on 100 posts/page) and found no result for "more than a fe"... thought I might find a clue from Herbert, but nothing came up. RIP Keterman!

[juliets]

Should i know who Herbert is?

And RIP Keterman, nice to play with you.

[Long Con]

Should i know who Herbert is?

And RIP Keterman, nice to play with you.

He's the prince that just wants... to SING!

[Boogs]

Rip Keterman and MM Okay, guys pleae vote. Bullzeye out! I don't know who his teammates are but he's scum. My kitty senses were going haywire and he was off the poll the last lynch! If you don't want to lynch him, then please figure out who his teammates are and get them.

[juliets]

Rip Keterman and MM Okay, guys pleae vote. Bullzeye out! I don't know who his teammates are but he's scum. My kitty senses were going haywire and he was off the poll the last lynch! If you don't want to lynch him, then please figure out who his teammates are and get them.

Boogs can you provide a case against Bullz?