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I've been played like a fiddle. I know I have to be lynched after lc, I can't be at lylp at this point. It sucks.
But I do think we are on solid track to win this despite me, so go town!
So you say you've been set up? That Mafia spent a night phase- Soneji's only real night phase to use his power- to give you a protective vest, and you're good? That's like taking antibiotics for bronchitis when I sprain my knee. What a 'Long Con' that would be.
Golden, if Soneji gave you the vest on night 2 then who gave Sloonei the gun on night 2? Am I just confused about the night 2 actions?
Dyslexicon wrote:Also, can we move past the who did what on what night? Golden is being a bit dense about taking in information. And everyone is confused about something they don't even need to care about.
Scotty wrote:That being said, should we follow Golden's directions if we think him bad?
Because I've let you all down before? The only time you went wrong is when you didn't follow my directions.
Golden, who's bad?
Long Con and at least one other person. I still think quite probably Quin. It also strikes me that Soneji and Quin were both sitting on Long Con near the end of yesterday, so it wouldn't surprise me if all three of yesterday's candidates were bad but LC is the one they are least worried about seeing dead.
Beyond that, who knows. Not juliets, not Jay, not MP. I still think probably not dizzy.
What does the protecting vest give you? Exclusively immunity to a gun shot? Lynch immunity? Or do you not know?
Why do you think Soneji would give you that if you were town?
What doesn't make sense in this equation is if you are bad, why say that you received an item on night 2 at all? If Soneji were to get lynched, we would automatically point fingers at you.
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
Hey JJJ, are we mainly not lynching LC today because he' said probably an even night role and we can save him for the lynch tomorrow? Otherwise he's all but plastered a bullseye on his stomach. And I want to be perfectly sure with Golden.
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
Scotty wrote:What does the protecting vest give you? Exclusively immunity to a gun shot? Lynch immunity? Or do you not know?
Why do you think Soneji would give you that if you were town?
What doesn't make sense in this equation is if you are bad, why say that you received an item on night 2 at all? If Soneji were to get lynched, we would automatically point fingers at you.
I don't know. I was just told I had a protective vest. I assumed it came from a townie who wouldn't to give me protection from a nk.
I don't know why soneji would give it to me. Is there any evidence that it protects against the gun? His role did say gun shoots through protection. Maybe he was just having fun with me.
This whole thing feels like a stitch up so people would automatically point fingers at me, to me. Having said that, though, be honest - if you get to lylo with me who are you voting for? I'm now in a position where keeping me alive long term feels untenable.
PS I appreciate all the speculation about whether or not 'dense with golden' information is alignment-indicative but the truth is sometimes I'm dense with information. But in this game it's been a struggle keeping up so if anyone thinks there is information I'm being dense with - just tell me what I'm missing, and that will solve the problem.
Scotty wrote:Hey JJJ, are we mainly not lynching LC today because he' said probably an even night role and we can save him for the lynch tomorrow? Otherwise he's all but plastered a bullseye on his stomach. And I want to be perfectly sure with Golden.
I just don't want to see anyone squirming out of the noose after I'm dead. Long Con is obviously bad, which means we don't need to lynch him first. I doube we're approaching LyLo right now. I'm on my phone so someone should tell me how many people are still alive.
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Golden wrote:PS I appreciate all the speculation about whether or not 'dense with golden' information is alignment-indicative but the truth is sometimes I'm dense with information. But in this game it's been a struggle keeping up so if anyone thinks there is information I'm being dense with - just tell me what I'm missing, and that will solve the problem.
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Golden wrote:PS I appreciate all the speculation about whether or not 'dense with golden' information is alignment-indicative but the truth is sometimes I'm dense with information. But in this game it's been a struggle keeping up so if anyone thinks there is information I'm being dense with - just tell me what I'm missing, and that will solve the problem.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Please walk me through your strategy for watching those players when you did.
I figured my best strategy was probably finding people who I could confirm as town. At first (with jay) I went for someone I thought the town might help, but since then I've gone with the top three target (in my opinion) for people who might mess with them.
Also, the reason I was trying to keep this quiet is because with this knowledge my role is more or less useless. Keeping the perception I was a standard watcher could have drawn the kill away from others. But obviously that didn't work.
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Golden wrote:PS I appreciate all the speculation about whether or not 'dense with golden' information is alignment-indicative but the truth is sometimes I'm dense with information. But in this game it's been a struggle keeping up so if anyone thinks there is information I'm being dense with - just tell me what I'm missing, and that will solve the problem.
Your targets. Lemme have 'em.
Long con
Jack
Have to look back for night 2 now.
I can't see kills.
This sounds reasonable balance-wise and also kinda not-likely?
Sorry, checking in, weekends are hit and miss for me, will try to stay caught up.
Was I the same as when I got up this morning? I almost think I can remember feeling a little different. But if I am not the same, the next question is, Who in the world am I?
What's the possibility that Jack did called me out on participation on purpose to shift off the argument because he essentially was strong-arming a claim out of Quin, when most people understood the underlying context of the conversation you two had.
I guess it's possible that he knew I'd have a negative reaction to his post and would distract long enough for people to forget I guess?
Seems like a leap, but I might as well tinfoil, If just to appease Jack's desperate need of Fred based content.
Can you explain what it was you understood?
I got the impression that you were aggravated that Nut died, and your interaction with JJJ implied that you felt she shouldn't have died. I didn't know that you were claiming doctor, but it felt like a protector being upset about not being able to protect their target.
Was I the same as when I got up this morning? I almost think I can remember feeling a little different. But if I am not the same, the next question is, Who in the world am I?
juliets wrote:Dang, Fred got out of here without answering my question.
Fred, you probably didn't see this because it was in a longer post but here's my question:
Do you think it's believable that Jack would have not killed Silver Lantern, and argued with teammates not to kill him, because of his community outlook on Lantern's participation? I'm asking you because from what I gather you know Jack the best and come from the same community.
Don't know, Silver being the vig is sticky. I would agree that he would have argued against killing Silver in a normal situation. With him saying he was vig I think that argument gets shot down by the other mafia.
So, I'm not saying he did or didn't argue that Silver shouldn't be killed, but that it wouldn't have mattered because he was overridden or didn't have a better alternative. I certainly don't view Silver's death as proof of his innocence.
Yeah I wasn't focused on the rest of the team when I started thinking about this last night. Thanks.
Do you still see Scotty and Soneji (and maybe Quin, I wasn't sure if your list was in order or not) above Jack on your list of people you think are bad?
linki
Yes...
Quin was about equal at the beginning of today as Jack, the back and forth today means they aren't w/w, just not sure that it doesn't mean T/T. Jack's behavior is familiar, but he has moved ahead of Quin in suspicion for the time being. Still not in my top suspects.
You don't say a suspect is 'leaning more town', you say that a suspect is 'the least suspicious'.
You don't say a town read is 'not in my top suspects', you say that a town read is ...a town read.
So which was I, Fredwood?
Uh what...maybe you do, but I don't, seems semantic arguments are your favorite type of arguments?
You weren't a town read but were in a better position then Jack, and you weren't in my top suspects...so you weren't either. I wasn't going to vote for Jack or you unless something placed you in the top tier.
Was I the same as when I got up this morning? I almost think I can remember feeling a little different. But if I am not the same, the next question is, Who in the world am I?
juliets wrote:Dang, Fred got out of here without answering my question.
Fred, you probably didn't see this because it was in a longer post but here's my question:
Do you think it's believable that Jack would have not killed Silver Lantern, and argued with teammates not to kill him, because of his community outlook on Lantern's participation? I'm asking you because from what I gather you know Jack the best and come from the same community.
Don't know, Silver being the vig is sticky. I would agree that he would have argued against killing Silver in a normal situation. With him saying he was vig I think that argument gets shot down by the other mafia.
So, I'm not saying he did or didn't argue that Silver shouldn't be killed, but that it wouldn't have mattered because he was overridden or didn't have a better alternative. I certainly don't view Silver's death as proof of his innocence.
Yeah I wasn't focused on the rest of the team when I started thinking about this last night. Thanks.
Do you still see Scotty and Soneji (and maybe Quin, I wasn't sure if your list was in order or not) above Jack on your list of people you think are bad?
linki
Yes...
Quin was about equal at the beginning of today as Jack, the back and forth today means they aren't w/w, just not sure that it doesn't mean T/T. Jack's behavior is familiar, but he has moved ahead of Quin in suspicion for the time being. Still not in my top suspects.
You don't say a suspect is 'leaning more town', you say that a suspect is 'the least suspicious'.
You don't say a town read is 'not in my top suspects', you say that a town read is ...a town read.
So which was I, Fredwood?
Uh what...maybe you do, but I don't, seems semantic arguments are your favorite type of arguments?
You weren't a town read but were in a better position then Jack, and you weren't in my top suspects...so you weren't either. I wasn't going to vote for Jack or you unless something placed you in the top tier.
They are by no means. They are useful though.
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
Just here to say I have an incredibly busy weekend and I'm not sure when I will have more than a few minutes. I'll try tomorrow, but no promises because I have crazy PhD deadlines this coming week. Just assume I won't be be around more than a few minutes if at all, and if I am able to do anything this phase then it'll be a pleasant surprise.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
Why are there 4000 posts this game? Who is responsible for this?
sorry
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
Why are there 4000 posts this game? Who is responsible for this?
sorry
You're only 27 posts away from usurping the King of Fuck Mountain.
How does that Nike commercial go again? "Buy shoes!" Or something to that effect
I did that already. He only took over again once he become Mr Confirmed Townie
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
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Wow this thread is almost as dead as I am today. What happened to the day periods being near impossible to keep up with? I guess it's missing the ol' sprinkling of paprika...
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?