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One of very few possibilities where Simon as mafia makes sense to me but I don’t know if I’m quite paranoid to indulge in it yet.
So with 8 votes on Simon (who you thought I had info on) and 6 votes on Dunya (who you thought was town) and 14 min to go, you decided to tell people voting Simon to switch to Speed, who had 1 vote on him.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:27 am They don't have to do anything relevant. I am a player continually thinking through the end of the phase and my mind will morph in accordance with all accumulated data.
speedchuck was my preference and I tried to generate that lynch when Mac made it clear he wanted an alternative.
I don't quite follow. If the prevailing assumption were that the mafia were bussing Simon, wouldn't that significantly limit any credit they can expect to earn for having done so?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:22 am @JJJ
If Simon got lynched and flipped mafia, the assumption would be that mafia bussed him hard. So obviously a Simon lynch would have town votes on it but it would also be an easy way for mafia to get cred and I doubt they wouldn’t take it.
Super WIFOM but I don’t think it’s accurate. Let’s say Lap didn’t switch and Simon got lynched and flips Maf. Who takes more suspicion: Dunya voters or Simon voters?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:35 amI don't quite follow. If the prevailing assumption were that the mafia were bussing Simon, wouldn't that significantly limit any credit they can expect to earn for having done so?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:22 am @JJJ
If Simon got lynched and flipped mafia, the assumption would be that mafia bussed him hard. So obviously a Simon lynch would have town votes on it but it would also be an easy way for mafia to get cred and I doubt they wouldn’t take it.
WIFOMJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:11 pm I really need to finish my presentation on civilian philosophy that nobody will watch. I respect that you believe what you're saying sig, but these kinds of "X saved Y!" and "X is trying to hot potatoe Y civilian!" type arguments fall flat so much more frequently than they amount to anything. Catching mafia is not that easy.
In a vacuum, the dunya voters probably take more suspicion -- though I'd expect both wagons to draw significant scrutiny given the environment of the thread prior to that point. You've said that you don't feel Simon is as likely to be mafia given that his voters don't appear to be mafia (i.e. your suspects were more centralized on the dunya wagon). What specifically drives these suspicions for you, your belief in Simon as a civilian or your suspects as suspects? I'm trying to piece apart the chicken and the egg of what you're saying.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:40 amSuper WIFOM but I don’t think it’s accurate. Let’s say Lap didn’t switch and Simon got lynched and flips Maf. Who takes more suspicion: Dunya voters or Simon voters?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:35 amI don't quite follow. If the prevailing assumption were that the mafia were bussing Simon, wouldn't that significantly limit any credit they can expect to earn for having done so?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:22 am @JJJ
If Simon got lynched and flipped mafia, the assumption would be that mafia bussed him hard. So obviously a Simon lynch would have town votes on it but it would also be an easy way for mafia to get cred and I doubt they wouldn’t take it.
I was trying to lynch speedchuck. 14 minutes is a long time. In Mountain Mafia I went from third place in a tally to first place, covering about 5-6 votes dropped on me in quick succession, in the space of about 10 minutes. I wanted to make that happen. Hot potatoes only require a series of clicks by active players in the thread. I didn't succeed.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:54 am @JaggedJimmyJay
That wasn't a hypothetical question. I want you to walk me through what you were trying to do minutes before EOD with the switch to Speed.
Depends on your goal.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:59 amI was trying to lynch speedchuck. 14 minutes is a long time. In Mountain Mafia I went from third place in a tally to first place, covering about 5-6 votes dropped on me in quick succession, in the space of about 10 minutes. I wanted to make that happen. Hot potatoes only require a series of clicks by active players in the thread. I didn't succeed.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:54 am @JaggedJimmyJay
That wasn't a hypothetical question. I want you to walk me through what you were trying to do minutes before EOD with the switch to Speed.
Jimmy's case on Speedchuck was week as can be.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:02 pm Y'all: if you suspect both Simon and speedchuck, put your vote speedchuck.
You didn't answer my question.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:44 amWho’s mafia if Simon is town?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:41 amTell me more about this.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:02 am Based on Simon’s performance so far it’s hard to say he isn’t mafia but I feel like that shook out as if he were Town. I’m not sold on it, but I don’t think that should be where the lynch should be tomorrow at least.
What are some concrete things that Simon has done to make you think he is town or lynching him is a bad idea.
Who’s mafia if Simon is mafia?
You did not answer my question.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:40 am"Strictly less suspicious people" is where you and I diverge. Apart from this possible information, which I am already conditioned not to entirely trust in a game with multiple blockers, a switcher, and 20+ ??? abilities that do god knows what, I didn't believe the case against Simon was that interesting. Indeed, for me the potential that information existed was the case against Simon. It wasn't "information exists and he is also super suspicious". He's a 10 year old kid that rarely gets heavily involved in a game. I've never seen him do much more than he has here regardless of alignment. His specific reaction to the train was to place a self-preservation vote. That is protocol. I'd have liked it more if he said something too. He'll be a suspect moving forward.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:24 am Tell me why Speedchuck or Dunya would be preferable or even comparably good lynches to Simon if I didn't have info. Cause I don't see it, Jimmy. So for you and Marmot to say you think I do have info but to vote against that, for strictly less suspicious people? I have a hard time squaring that with townie alignment.
Tell me what you think of Simon's reaction to this train, Lap's last minute switch, Tony's insistence that Simon would have been bussed if he was bad but not if he was good, Wilgy's vote for Speed and Eloh's "lynch Dunya over Simon but only lynch Simon if Dunya flips scum."
~ Lap's late switch fits her continued suspicion of dunya. She has said that she was afraid of being manipulated by dunya or something similar, and given MacDougall's comments at the end I can frankly believe her on that.
~ I don't know what you're referring to yet re: TSP. Stand by.
~ Wilgy is also a suspect and I don't think it matters much what speedchuck's alignment is on that front.
~ I said earlier that I didn't like Elohcin gluing dunya to Simon merely because she had defended him. That's an overly simplistic read and it felt shoehorned into a thread which was begging for dunya votes. One can also suggest that if she and Simon are mafia, then by gluing dunya to him and lynching her first she severs that tie and makes him look better -- this is a more speculative notion but it's worth discussion.
It’s not beyond the realm of possibility that he was talking through his arse...Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:02 pmGlorfindel wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:52 pmDamn straight! We were handed a life line with the last night’s results and we just threw it away. I can’t see any logic voting Dunya over Simon in the first place and now we’re saying that Simon is Town?
I’m kinda glad that I won’t be around to endure this after the next 24 hours.if ermac was right/telling the truth then you're probably safeepingosis wrote:4. No double-targeting (targeting the same individual with a power twice in a row) or self-targeting.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Glorfindel is always nicer than a puppy.
Golden wrote: I agree. Let glorf be glorf.
I answered it later I think. Or I didn’t. Absolutely nothing at all. Which is a little concerning.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:10 amYou didn't answer my question.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:44 amWho’s mafia if Simon is town?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:41 amTell me more about this.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:02 am Based on Simon’s performance so far it’s hard to say he isn’t mafia but I feel like that shook out as if he were Town. I’m not sold on it, but I don’t think that should be where the lynch should be tomorrow at least.
What are some concrete things that Simon has done to make you think he is town or lynching him is a bad idea.
Who’s mafia if Simon is mafia?
I disagree. I bought Jack’s pursuit of Dunya after LC suggested that there was more to it (in that Jack had intel on her) but once it became clear that wasn’t the case, I assumed (correctly) that the Dunya case held no water at all. I’m still struggling to see how anyone bought into that lynch and one must surely conclude that there must be some Mafia on that wagon - and more if you interpret her lynching as a ‘Simon-rescue’.nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:56 am Had I not been so unjustly disenfranchised, I would have tried to save dunya and lynch Simon. I agreed with Jay that speedchuck was the better option, but since he didn't get enough votes and it came down to a near-tie I'd probably have gone Simon. I must admit I did have some doubts about dunya for a bit when the wagon was picking up, but her pleads when it came down to the wire sounded sincere.
I haven't done any in-depth analysis but off the top of my head Jack, Kyle, Lap, and Rabbit come out of this looking pretty good, and Eloh, Quin, LC, and Speed come out looking not-so-good. Jack and Rabbit especially (and Mac but he's dead) did some solid confident hunting work both before and after the result there, and I'm inclined to follow their intuitions. I can't decide how I feel about Jay but I suppose I could see the tinfoil that he's mafia with Simon and Speed. Geez being in two concurrent games with several of the same players is mentally exhausting, I'm trying not to conflate too much meta from Fiddler but I have so many confusing tinfoily wifomy thoughts about Jay in both games lol. It's been hard to keep track but I definitely have a more traditionally civ vibe from him in this game compared to that one, but compared to previous games where he was supatown it's been a bit on the weaker side.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Glorfindel is always nicer than a puppy.
Golden wrote: I agree. Let glorf be glorf.
Nobody is saying Simon, Jimmy and Speed are bad together.nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:56 am Had I not been so unjustly disenfranchised, I would have tried to save dunya and lynch Simon. I agreed with Jay that speedchuck was the better option, but since he didn't get enough votes and it came down to a near-tie I'd probably have gone Simon. I must admit I did have some doubts about dunya for a bit when the wagon was picking up, but her pleads when it came down to the wire sounded sincere.
I haven't done any in-depth analysis but off the top of my head Jack, Kyle, Lap, and Rabbit come out of this looking pretty good, and Eloh, Quin, LC, and Speed come out looking not-so-good. Jack and Rabbit especially (and Mac but he's dead) did some solid confident hunting work both before and after the result there, and I'm inclined to follow their intuitions. I can't decide how I feel about Jay but I suppose I could see the tinfoil that he's mafia with Simon and Speed. Geez being in two concurrent games with several of the same players is mentally exhausting, I'm trying not to conflate too much meta from Fiddler but I have so many confusing tinfoily wifomy thoughts about Jay in both games lol. It's been hard to keep track but I definitely have a more traditionally civ vibe from him in this game compared to that one, but compared to previous games where he was supatown it's been a bit on the weaker side.
WIFOM from a baddie. It means nothing.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:47 amSomeone analyze this. It’s 11 words so it won’t be hard.
For me.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:34 amI answered it later I think. Or I didn’t. Absolutely nothing at all. Which is a little concerning.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:10 amYou didn't answer my question.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:44 amWho’s mafia if Simon is town?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:41 amTell me more about this.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:02 am Based on Simon’s performance so far it’s hard to say he isn’t mafia but I feel like that shook out as if he were Town. I’m not sold on it, but I don’t think that should be where the lynch should be tomorrow at least.
What are some concrete things that Simon has done to make you think he is town or lynching him is a bad idea.
Who’s mafia if Simon is mafia?
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:01 amI at mentioned Simon when I initially voted for him at the beginning of the phase. Nobody's sneaking a lynch in on Simon.rabbit8 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:10 pmHide his vote, hes been tunneling Dunya all day.... I wasn't even moved until recently with a few of Duns posts.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:06 pmLook at what quin is doing. No attempt to solve the mafia. He is just trying to find where to hide his vote.
You can't hide your vote in a train you created on someone you claim is on his team no less. That would just be confusing to do considering all the players you lumped together.
I think what MIGHT have happened is Speed and Dunya are teammates with Jack, possibly Simon and railroaded Simon to save those two from a three way tie. Or Simons a civ who wont defend himself anyway.
He was around to defend himself. Choose not to.
He's bad.
You think me and Simon are bad together? Let me lynch Simon. What do you care?
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:46 amTwo votes, one post from Simon. No defense. No hint.
Baddies: Simon, Jimmy, Wilgy.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:57 amFor me.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:34 amI answered it later I think. Or I didn’t. Absolutely nothing at all. Which is a little concerning.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:10 amYou didn't answer my question.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:44 amWho’s mafia if Simon is town?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:41 amTell me more about this.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:02 am Based on Simon’s performance so far it’s hard to say he isn’t mafia but I feel like that shook out as if he were Town. I’m not sold on it, but I don’t think that should be where the lynch should be tomorrow at least.
What are some concrete things that Simon has done to make you think he is town or lynching him is a bad idea.
Who’s mafia if Simon is mafia?
Why then did you come out of that lynching saying that Simon must be town?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_take
And now that you've had more time to think about it?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:02 pmJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:57 amFor me.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:34 amI answered it later I think. Or I didn’t. Absolutely nothing at all. Which is a little concerning.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:10 amYou didn't answer my question.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:44 amWho’s mafia if Simon is town?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:41 amTell me more about this.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:02 am Based on Simon’s performance so far it’s hard to say he isn’t mafia but I feel like that shook out as if he were Town. I’m not sold on it, but I don’t think that should be where the lynch should be tomorrow at least.
What are some concrete things that Simon has done to make you think he is town or lynching him is a bad idea.
Who’s mafia if Simon is mafia?
Why then did you come out of that lynching saying that Simon must be town?https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_take
I’ve leaned off Simon being town, but I don’t think he’s a good lynch tomorrow (he would be a solid vig kill). We got all the information we would get from lynching him today and on the off chance he’s town we have little chance of recovery. If we lynch Simon and he’s mafia we have to choose whether to pursue JJJ/ Wilgy or Nutella / Eloh / Lap and there’s way too much room for error. MJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:06 pmAnd now that you've had more time to think about it?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:02 pmJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:57 amFor me.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:34 amI answered it later I think. Or I didn’t. Absolutely nothing at all. Which is a little concerning.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:10 amYou didn't answer my question.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:44 amWho’s mafia if Simon is town?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:41 am
Tell me more about this.
What are some concrete things that Simon has done to make you think he is town or lynching him is a bad idea.
Who’s mafia if Simon is mafia?
Why then did you come out of that lynching saying that Simon must be town?https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_take
I think that's what makes it hard.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:47 amSomeone analyze this. It’s 11 words so it won’t be hard.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
If he's alive tomorrow, I'd vote for him too. I don't see any reason not to.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:36 pm If Simon lives through the night (and the mafia will absolutely doctor him) he should be the only lynch candidate.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
I don't see the problem with these questions. They relate more to what players vote for (or away from) Simon as opposed to what Simon says.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:25 amThis post pings me. It's like you took a line from the "How To Mafia" handbook and applied it to the flavour of the day. It's suspicious because Simon has very few posts, and none of them are interactive.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:44 amWho’s mafia if Simon is town?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:41 amTell me more about this.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:02 am Based on Simon’s performance so far it’s hard to say he isn’t mafia but I feel like that shook out as if he were Town. I’m not sold on it, but I don’t think that should be where the lynch should be tomorrow at least.
What are some concrete things that Simon has done to make you think he is town or lynching him is a bad idea.
Who’s mafia if Simon is mafia?
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
Why?
Y'all told me to just pick someone to vote for. And now you want to say, "yuck"? The two with the most votes were dunya and Simon. Dunya had the most. And I am not sure, but I think if I had voted Simon, it would have made a tie. No, thank you.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:19 amYuckyuckyuck.Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:32 pm I haven't read in a couple days, but I do remember Dunya coming in here defending Simon a lot to someone who was suspecting him. So, that alone is a Simon/Dunya teammie ping. I will put my vote on Dunya since she has the most already. And if she turns out bad, I say we go Simon next.
I don't understand what this is talking about...check me after polls are closed. Can you explain?lapluie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:09 am For the record, I had my vote on Simon before dunya when I agreed to removing my vote from her. speedhcucks logic on how Simon is no good. I dont know what happens if votes are tied, I still don't think simon is bad just because he's noncommittal & lacking communication throughout this entire game. Mac's logic made most sense to bus simon out of the game because itd be an easy target & it seemed believable that it'd happen. I switched in fear knowing I would have made a bad decision if I didn't go with mac's words how dunya is probably manipulating us to sympathize. I realised we fudged up when she told us to check Elohcin right after polls closed.
I chose dunya cause she had the most votes at the time. I asked who I should pick out of dunya, Simon, and chuck becuase they were the top three voted for at the time.
Your vote is not yuck (though I wish you had voted Simon).Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:18 pmY'all told me to just pick someone to vote for. And now you want to say, "yuck"? The two with the most votes were dunya and Simon. Dunya had the most. And I am not sure, but I think if I had voted Simon, it would have made a tie. No, thank you.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:19 amYuckyuckyuck.Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:32 pm I haven't read in a couple days, but I do remember Dunya coming in here defending Simon a lot to someone who was suspecting him. So, that alone is a Simon/Dunya teammie ping. I will put my vote on Dunya since she has the most already. And if she turns out bad, I say we go Simon next.
My migraine let up for about an hour or two yesterday evening but came back in the middle of the night. I'm starting to think something is wrong with me.
what does this mean? where did those groups of names come from and what do they have to do with each other and why do we have to choose between them?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:31 pm If we lynch Simon and he’s mafia we have to choose whether to pursue JJJ/ Wilgy or Nutella / Eloh / Lap and there’s way too much room for error. M
Over Wilgy? Really?
JJJ and Wilgy voted together on Speedchuck and would be linked, a case for or against one would almost always involve the other. Eloh and Lap are some of my top suspects on the Dunya lynch. You got thrown in there because I think you’re Mafia. I guess you’re your own category.nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:58 pmwhat does this mean? where did those groups of names come from and what do they have to do with each other and why do we have to choose between them?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:31 pm If we lynch Simon and he’s mafia we have to choose whether to pursue JJJ/ Wilgy or Nutella / Eloh / Lap and there’s way too much room for error. M
Over Wilgy? Really?
And Jack, yeah I misread your post about Jay. I guess it's more likely that either Simon and Jay are bad together or Simon and Speed are bad together and probably not both. Do you think both Jay and Wilgy are bad for voting for speed?
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:07 pm Eloh and Lap are some of my top suspects on the Dunya lynch.
First paragraph reads really Mafia to me. Saying you would vote Simon is one thing but after the lynch it reads like a lot of self cover, especially considering Nut could talk during day 2. He did imply he would vote Simon / Speedchuck if he could, but this was a lot of defense when it wasn’t required.nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:56 am Had I not been so unjustly disenfranchised, I would have tried to save dunya and lynch Simon. I agreed with Jay that speedchuck was the better option, but since he didn't get enough votes and it came down to a near-tie I'd probably have gone Simon. I must admit I did have some doubts about dunya for a bit when the wagon was picking up, but her pleads when it came down to the wire sounded sincere.
I haven't done any in-depth analysis but off the top of my head Jack, Kyle, Lap, and Rabbit come out of this looking pretty good, and Eloh, Quin, LC, and Speed come out looking not-so-good. Jack and Rabbit especially (and Mac but he's dead) did some solid confident hunting work both before and after the result there, and I'm inclined to follow their intuitions. I can't decide how I feel about Jay but I suppose I could see the tinfoil that he's mafia with Simon and Speed. Geez being in two concurrent games with several of the same players is mentally exhausting, I'm trying not to conflate too much meta from Fiddler but I have so many confusing tinfoily wifomy thoughts about Jay in both games lol. It's been hard to keep track but I definitely have a more traditionally civ vibe from him in this game compared to that one, but compared to previous games where he was supatown it's been a bit on the weaker side.
EBWOPTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:18 pm Night three Nutella read:
First paragraph reads really Mafia to me. Saying you would vote Simon is one thing but after the lynch it reads like a lot of self cover, especially considering Nut could talk during day 3. He did imply he would vote Simon / Speedchuck if he could, but this was a lot of defense when it wasn’t required.nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:56 am Had I not been so unjustly disenfranchised, I would have tried to save dunya and lynch Simon. I agreed with Jay that speedchuck was the better option, but since he didn't get enough votes and it came down to a near-tie I'd probably have gone Simon. I must admit I did have some doubts about dunya for a bit when the wagon was picking up, but her pleads when it came down to the wire sounded sincere.
I haven't done any in-depth analysis but off the top of my head Jack, Kyle, Lap, and Rabbit come out of this looking pretty good, and Eloh, Quin, LC, and Speed come out looking not-so-good. Jack and Rabbit especially (and Mac but he's dead) did some solid confident hunting work both before and after the result there, and I'm inclined to follow their intuitions. I can't decide how I feel about Jay but I suppose I could see the tinfoil that he's mafia with Simon and Speed. Geez being in two concurrent games with several of the same players is mentally exhausting, I'm trying not to conflate too much meta from Fiddler but I have so many confusing tinfoily wifomy thoughts about Jay in both games lol. It's been hard to keep track but I definitely have a more traditionally civ vibe from him in this game compared to that one, but compared to previous games where he was supatown it's been a bit on the weaker side.
Second paragraph is fine but also makes room for wishywashy-ness on JJJ.
@linki It’s a mystery.... Dun Dun Dah!