[END] Bioshock Mafia

#961

Goin with Lizzy. Just don't see llama being bad I guess idk.

#962

Elohcin wrote:I need to get my butt in gear

Mario Andretti couldn't move that thing!

#963

Epignosis wrote:
Elohcin wrote:I need to get my butt in gear
Mario Andretti couldn't move that thing!

Mario Lopez could

#964

Oh of course now that I mention Hedge pulled a throwaway vote onto Lizzy everyone starts voting for Lizzy.

#965

Elohcin wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Elohcin wrote:I need to get my butt in gear
Mario Andretti couldn't move that thing!
Mario Lopez could

#966

Elohcin wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:You make some really neat looking cakes Elo.
Thanks DharmaHelper. You can check out my facebook page - facebook.com/LittleMissCakesNC

I entered a cake decorating contest because my stand mixer broke on me today and the winner of the contest gets a new Kitchen Aid mixer. You can vote for my Dr. Seuss cake by going to the facebook page My Cake Decorating, clicking on Cake Off, and searching for my name "Tasha Brown". Spread the word! I need new mixer

Done! Hope you win. Those Kitchen Aid mixers are awful snazzy.

#967

DH is so smart.

Voting for Bullz because I agree with DH's case.

#968

Mongoose wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:You make some really neat looking cakes Elo.
Thanks DharmaHelper. You can check out my facebook page - facebook.com/LittleMissCakesNC

I entered a cake decorating contest because my stand mixer broke on me today and the winner of the contest gets a new Kitchen Aid mixer. You can vote for my Dr. Seuss cake by going to the facebook page My Cake Decorating, clicking on Cake Off, and searching for my name "Tasha Brown". Spread the word! I need new mixer
Done! Hope you win. Those Kitchen Aid mixers are awful snazzy.

Thanks so much!

#969

DharmaHelper wrote:Oh of course now that I mention Hedge pulled a throwaway vote onto Lizzy everyone starts voting for Lizzy.

Yeah, thanks DharmaObamaHelper!

I have to admit though, this is quite exciting!
Also, finally a decent random.bullshit.analysis! You should do this more often, k.

#970

DharmaHelper wrote: Nev voted bea and seemed from the onset to want to focus on the late voters for llama, that could be distancing, especially considering that indeed bea does not appear to be in danger of being lynched. It could also be a case of Nev thinking that there are maybe some civvies within the Ace votes and getting attention on them instead of him and possibly his teammates is better than nothing. His vote for Aces was based on Hedge's points, as you can see here he also says that Aces really wasn't all that suspect to him here

At the time of Nev's vote the votes looked like this:
Aces had 2 votes (Hedge, Spag)
BWT had 3 votes (Indiglo, Elo, SpaceDaisy)
Dex had 1 vote (Boomslang)

Nev's vote made it 3-3 between bwt and Aces. Coincidence?

I think it was a typo, but I wanted to focus on the late voters for *aces*, not llama. Though that was a position llama agreed with.
It seems like a fairly obvious logical position to take, especially with how little other actual info we have. The early voters (such as I) are viable as well, as you say, just not as much so as the later ones - early on, coming down on the side of a baddie teammate aligns you with them with little definite gain; later the likelihood that you are swinging the vote is much higher.

The post you linked to is the one where I admitted that I voted for Aces on pretty light feelings, because there is basically no information to vote on. Every single logical person in the game is doing the same thing - without information, choices are basically random. I didn't think anyone would mind me admitting it.

I find your analysis very helpful, and would like to subscribe to your newsletter :-)

#971

Oh yeah I'm sorry Nev, writing that took alot of effort and time and I probably made a few typos.

#972

Whoa, I've missed a lot. Sorry, I'm about to catch up and see what exactly is going on.

#973

Elohcin wrote:
Mongoose wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:You make some really neat looking cakes Elo.
Thanks DharmaHelper. You can check out my facebook page - facebook.com/LittleMissCakesNC

I entered a cake decorating contest because my stand mixer broke on me today and the winner of the contest gets a new Kitchen Aid mixer. You can vote for my Dr. Seuss cake by going to the facebook page My Cake Decorating, clicking on Cake Off, and searching for my name "Tasha Brown". Spread the word! I need new mixer
Done! Hope you win. Those Kitchen Aid mixers are awful snazzy.
Thanks so much!

I voted for you too, Tasha, even though YOUR HUSBAND GOT ME KILLED!

Good luck!

#974

thellama73 wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
Mongoose wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:You make some really neat looking cakes Elo.
Thanks DharmaHelper. You can check out my facebook page - facebook.com/LittleMissCakesNC

I entered a cake decorating contest because my stand mixer broke on me today and the winner of the contest gets a new Kitchen Aid mixer. You can vote for my Dr. Seuss cake by going to the facebook page My Cake Decorating, clicking on Cake Off, and searching for my name "Tasha Brown". Spread the word! I need new mixer
Done! Hope you win. Those Kitchen Aid mixers are awful snazzy.
Thanks so much!
I voted for you too, Tasha, even though YOUR HUSBAND GOT ME KILLED!

Good luck!

How many people could say that about their politicians?

#975

Epignosis wrote:
thellama73 wrote: I voted for you too, Tasha, even though YOUR HUSBAND GOT ME KILLED!

Good luck!
How many people could say that about their politicians?

Wow, this thread got really heavy all of a sudden...

#976

At work and on my phone. All the llama votes are making me nervious. I still don't get baddie vibes from him though. DB's long post is pretty well put together. I shall follow him and go with bulls.

#977

Looking through the past couple days: Vomps and Lizzy are no doubt strange, but they are strange even if they are civs.

Rob's discussion with llama was interesting, but I feel as though they're both civs and just debating for the fun of it, maybe.

Apart from that, the only thing seeming strange to me would be Dex's posts which seem to have little or no relevance. It's possible that maybe he is cursed one way or another.

Despite all this, I really can't call any of the above-mentioned people baddies. Because of this, I'll vote for myself and later see what further discussion occurs between these people.

#978

I am DB Cooper?

#979

BoatsBoatsBoats wrote:Looking through the past couple days: Vomps and Lizzy are no doubt strange, but they are strange even if they are civs.

Rob's discussion with llama was interesting, but I feel as though they're both civs and just debating for the fun of it, maybe.

Apart from that, the only thing seeming strange to me would be Dex's posts which seem to have little or no relevance. It's possible that maybe he is cursed one way or another.

Despite all this, I really can't call any of the above-mentioned people baddies. Because of this, I'll vote for myself and later see what further discussion occurs between these people.

Another self-voter? What is up with this game?

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #980

I'm *voting Lizzy*.

But tomorrow I'm looking at Boats. How did he catch up and write all those thoughts in 12 minutes? He has BTSC teammates helping him out for sure.

#981

Hedgeowl wrote:
BoatsBoatsBoats wrote:Looking through the past couple days: Vomps and Lizzy are no doubt strange, but they are strange even if they are civs.

Rob's discussion with llama was interesting, but I feel as though they're both civs and just debating for the fun of it, maybe.

Apart from that, the only thing seeming strange to me would be Dex's posts which seem to have little or no relevance. It's possible that maybe he is cursed one way or another.

Despite all this, I really can't call any of the above-mentioned people baddies. Because of this, I'll vote for myself and later see what further discussion occurs between these people.
Another self-voter? What is up with this game?

I can vote for myself and know that I will not die since I have no other votes instead of jumping on a bandwagon and voting for someone who is likely a civ. I don't think I will do this often, but it gives me time to think about who is good and who is bad without actually judging.

#982

I was gonna just ignore DH's post about me for now because I wasn't too bothered, but then other people started latching on so I thought I'd address it a bit.

DharmaHelper wrote: Bullz has made a few more posts than boo during D3 but they are equally as chin-scratch worthy. going to rewind a bit to D2 first though here he debates the merits of voting for Dex or Aces, but ultimately decides that voting for Dex would be too risky as he's "trying to grab himself some votes".

As you've just shown, I was unlikely to vote BWT even before he became an obvious candidate. If I'd mentioned BWT as highly suspicious and then voted Aces then I would agree that my vote looked like a save attempt.

Fast forward a bit and here Bullz says that if he really wanted to defend BWT, he would have done so. Because the smartest thing a baddie can do is openly and actively defend a sinking ship instead of covertly and subtly trying to get the votes needed for that teammate to survive.

I would have defended the ship before it started to sink. We've been bad together at least once, you surely know I try to defend my teammates when I can. It has been the death of me a few times.

He also says that he doubts Ace's voters (a group which he is conveniently a part of) made an attempt to save BWT by voting Aces. He states that it is just as likely that Dex voters (whom I will examine later) were trying to save BWT by voting Dex as they were tied or close for a while. Now you see why I rewound back to his D2 vote post where he waffles between voting Dex and voting Aces. Either vote would have been sufficient to save a teammate, by Bullz's own admission, yet the Aces vote carried significantly less risk.

I obviously worded that post wrongly. I meant it might not have only been Aces' voters trying to save BWT, as Dex was close as well so some could have jumped on him. Also voting for someone close to the person you're trying to save but not the closest would surely be a good way to disguise the fact that your vote is a save attempt right?

at the time of Bullz's comment and vote, the poll looked like this:
Aces had 4 votes (Hedgeowl, Spaghetti, Nev, and Boo)
BwT had 5 votes (Indiglo Elo, SD, Epig, Aces)
Dex had 3 votes (Boomslang, Devin, Dex)
So it would make more sense to put a vote on Aces at the time of Bullz's vote.

I see. I couldn't remember if Aces and Dex were tied or not at the time I voted, I thought they had been but apparently not.

Linki Nutella - interesting point about Boats there. Definitely worth a look.

#983

nutella wrote:I'm *voting Lizzy*.

But tomorrow I'm looking at Boats. How did he catch up and write all those thoughts in 12 minutes? He has BTSC teammates helping him out for sure.

That's a fantastic catch. Wow.

#984

Epignosis wrote:
nutella wrote:I'm *voting Lizzy*.

But tomorrow I'm looking at Boats. How did he catch up and write all those thoughts in 12 minutes? He has BTSC teammates helping him out for sure.
That's a fantastic catch. Wow.

3-4 pages doesn't take very long to read when you're skimming through the discussions. By all means, vote for me if you feel you must, but I know for a fact that I read through.

#985

I can't ignore Llama's actions in the BWT lynch yesterday. I'm putting my vote there today.

*Votes Llama*

#986

Seriously? I barely missed the poll ending. That is annoying to no end.

#987

BoatsBoatsBoats wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
nutella wrote:I'm *voting Lizzy*.

But tomorrow I'm looking at Boats. How did he catch up and write all those thoughts in 12 minutes? He has BTSC teammates helping him out for sure.
That's a fantastic catch. Wow.
3-4 pages doesn't take very long to read when you're skimming through the discussions. By all means, vote for me if you feel you must, but I know for a fact that I read through.

You read about 140 (3.5x40) posts in twelve minutes (720 seconds)? That's little over five seconds per post, never mind the time it took to write your post.

You didn't read shit.

#988

^How is this 12 minute figure arrived at?

#989

Dang son math done FUCKED YOU UP

#990

Snow Dog wrote:^How is this 12 minute figure arrived at?

The time between this post:

BoatsBoatsBoats wrote:Whoa, I've missed a lot. Sorry, I'm about to catch up and see what exactly is going on.

and this one:

BoatsBoatsBoats wrote:Looking through the past couple days: Vomps and Lizzy are no doubt strange, but they are strange even if they are civs.

Rob's discussion with llama was interesting, but I feel as though they're both civs and just debating for the fun of it, maybe.

Apart from that, the only thing seeming strange to me would be Dex's posts which seem to have little or no relevance. It's possible that maybe he is cursed one way or another.

Despite all this, I really can't call any of the above-mentioned people baddies. Because of this, I'll vote for myself and later see what further discussion occurs between these people.

#991

^Thanks. Obvious really. Sorry for being slow.

#992

Apparently this thread is hungry, because the second half of my post seems to have been eaten... Before the first post I quoted Boats hadn't said anything at all since day 0, so he supposedly read 3 'Days' worth of posts in the space of 12 minutes, which seems very unlikely.

#993

Post coming shortly.

#994

nutella wrote:I'm *voting Lizzy*.

But tomorrow I'm looking at Boats. How did he catch up and write all those thoughts in 12 minutes? He has BTSC teammates helping him out for sure.

Very good catch, Nutella. However, are there any civ roles with BTSC? I can't remember.

#995

Considering I pull that crap all the time I'm reluctant to jump on Boats, but I'll keep an eye on him.

#996

Day 3: Drunken Last Words

thellama73 was sitting on a bar stool in Eve's Garden, drunkenly rambling away. Suddenly, a bunch of Splicers opened the door to the bar. "There he is!" one of them shouted.

"I dotn evne kno what your taklin bout!" thellama73 exclaimed, after having consumed way too much alcohol. The Splicers advanced on him. thellama73 pulled out a grenade and attempted to throw it at them, but unfortunately, his hand-eye coordination skills left much to be desired while drunk, and he exploded.

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Audio Diary #10: Hector Rodriguez - It's All Grift

thellama73 has been lynched. He was Hector Rodriguez.

It is now Night 3. You have 24 hours to send in your night PMs.

#997

The event has begun!

#998

Lame result. RIP!

#999

No kidding. Shit.

#1000

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:Lame result. RIP!

Yeah, lame. I'd hoped there was a good chance of him being bad based on his defending BWT. Apparently not.

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#1001

Bullzeye wrote:
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:Lame result. RIP!
Yeah, lame. I'd hoped there was a good chance of him being bad based on his defending BWT. Apparently not.

1

I sort of had a feeling llama was being railroaded towards the end there. Will have my eye firmly on you in the next lynch though, that's for sure. I will also examine the Dex voters in a later post.

1

#1002

Thanks for a fun game, everybody!

#1003

DharmaHelper wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:Lame result. RIP!
Yeah, lame. I'd hoped there was a good chance of him being bad based on his defending BWT. Apparently not.

1
I sort of had a feeling llama was being railroaded towards the end there. Will have my eye firmly on you in the next lynch though, that's for sure. I will also examine the Dex voters in a later post.

1

I responded to your points about me earlier. Did you see it? Also, what do you think of the fact that Ace and Bea used your logic and nothing more to support votes for me?

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#1004

Bullzeye wrote:
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:Lame result. RIP!
Yeah, lame. I'd hoped there was a good chance of him being bad based on his defending BWT. Apparently not.

1

I had my doubts. I think it was mostly because his defending of BWT was made so clear. I usually think a baddie wouldn't put themselves in the clear so much in that situation, but who knows.

1

#1005

thellama73 wrote:Thanks for a fun game, everybody!

Sorry I doubted you llama! Thanks for leading great discussions!

#1006

Bullzeye wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:Lame result. RIP!
Yeah, lame. I'd hoped there was a good chance of him being bad based on his defending BWT. Apparently not.

1
I sort of had a feeling llama was being railroaded towards the end there. Will have my eye firmly on you in the next lynch though, that's for sure. I will also examine the Dex voters in a later post.

1
I responded to your points about me earlier. Did you see it? Also, what do you think of the fact that Ace and Bea used your logic and nothing more to support votes for me?

2

Would you rather I just repeat everything DH said again? If someone makes a case that makes sense, why wouldn't I support it? You're actions during day two were suspicious, and DH pointed it all out very well. I'm not sure where you are going with that.

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#1007

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:Lame result. RIP!
Yeah, lame. I'd hoped there was a good chance of him being bad based on his defending BWT. Apparently not.

1
I had my doubts. I think it was mostly because his defending of BWT was made so clear. I usually think a baddie wouldn't put themselves in the clear so much in that situation, but who knows.

1

I always say the idea that a baddie 'wouldn't do' something is not a great idea because they could then do something just because people would say oh a baddie wouldn't do that he must be civvie. Obviously in this case it doesn't apply though. You were right.

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#1008

Bullzeye wrote:
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:Lame result. RIP!
Yeah, lame. I'd hoped there was a good chance of him being bad based on his defending BWT. Apparently not.

1

"Apparently not" is not a sentence. "Yeah, lame" is not a sentence (thought we might be able to argue about that one). Actually, no we cannot, and I'm not going to tell you why.

1

#1009

Bullz I did see your post, I'll address it in a minute. IDK what to think about Aces/Bea jumping on my suspicions. Bea seems, like I said, to be sort of wishy-washy and playing up the whole clueless thing so that is a point against her.

Bullzeye wrote:I was gonna just ignore DH's post about me for now because I wasn't too bothered, but then other people started latching on so I thought I'd address it a bit.

DharmaHelper wrote: Bullz has made a few more posts than boo during D3 but they are equally as chin-scratch worthy. going to rewind a bit to D2 first though here he debates the merits of voting for Dex or Aces, but ultimately decides that voting for Dex would be too risky as he's "trying to grab himself some votes".
As you've just shown, I was unlikely to vote BWT even before he became an obvious candidate. If I'd mentioned BWT as highly suspicious and then voted Aces then I would agree that my vote looked like a save attempt.

Just because you didn't mention BWT doesn't mean you weren't trying to save him, Bullz. Oft times I stay away from bringing up my teammates when bad. Weak defense is weak.

Fast forward a bit and here Bullz says that if he really wanted to defend BWT, he would have done so. Because the smartest thing a baddie can do is openly and actively defend a sinking ship instead of covertly and subtly trying to get the votes needed for that teammate to survive.
I would have defended the ship before it started to sink. We've been bad together at least once, you surely know I try to defend my teammates when I can. It has been the death of me a few times.

I'm sure you would have done anything in your power to help a teammate. Like, you know, tie the vote.

He also says that he doubts Ace's voters (a group which he is conveniently a part of) made an attempt to save BWT by voting Aces. He states that it is just as likely that Dex voters (whom I will examine later) were trying to save BWT by voting Dex as they were tied or close for a while. Now you see why I rewound back to his D2 vote post where he waffles between voting Dex and voting Aces. Either vote would have been sufficient to save a teammate, by Bullz's own admission, yet the Aces vote carried significantly less risk.
I obviously worded that post wrongly. I meant it might not have only been Aces' voters trying to save BWT, as Dex was close as well so some could have jumped on him. Also voting for someone close to the person you're trying to save but not the closest would surely be a good way to disguise the fact that your vote is a save attempt right?

But as you said, voting for Dex in your opinion would have given him an advantage, so giving an opposing baddie an advantage wasn't something I think you would have done.

at the time of Bullz's comment and vote, the poll looked like this:
Aces had 4 votes (Hedgeowl, Spaghetti, Nev, and Boo)
BwT had 5 votes (Indiglo Elo, SD, Epig, Aces)
Dex had 3 votes (Boomslang, Devin, Dex)
So it would make more sense to put a vote on Aces at the time of Bullz's vote.
I see. I couldn't remember if Aces and Dex were tied or not at the time I voted, I thought they had been but apparently not.

Linki Nutella - interesting point about Boats there. Definitely worth a look.

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#1010

AceofSpaces wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:Lame result. RIP!
Yeah, lame. I'd hoped there was a good chance of him being bad based on his defending BWT. Apparently not.

1
I sort of had a feeling llama was being railroaded towards the end there. Will have my eye firmly on you in the next lynch though, that's for sure. I will also examine the Dex voters in a later post.

1
I responded to your points about me earlier. Did you see it? Also, what do you think of the fact that Ace and Bea used your logic and nothing more to support votes for me?

2

Would you rather I just repeat everything DH said again? If someone makes a case that makes sense, why wouldn't I support it? You're actions during day two were suspicious, and DH pointed it all out very well. I'm not sure where you are going with that.

1

I was really pointing more at Bea there, since DH accused her of being wishy-washy and then she acted in exactly that manner. You did the same thing though, so it wouldn't exactly look good if I seemed to be giving you a pass for something I was condemning someone else for.

Epignosis wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:Lame result. RIP!
Yeah, lame. I'd hoped there was a good chance of him being bad based on his defending BWT. Apparently not.

1
"Apparently not" is not a sentence. "Yeah, lame" is not a sentence (thought we might be able to argue about that one). Actually, no we cannot, and I'm not going to tell you why.

1

Only if you want to be a grammar nazi about it!

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You and Bioshock: Which have you played and would you be interested in my upcoming sequel?