Steely Dan Mafia [ENDGAME]

[speedchuck]

My problem is that most people seem to avoid the game thread until the last two hours, when they start playing and posting and voting. People don't even take wagons seriously until they start considering their votes in those last two hours.

I'm not sure if that has happened in this game but it has happened quite often in past ones.

And yes, it is an invitation for people who can't be online at EoD not to play games. I'm trying to figure out if there is a correlation between that and the fact his site has difficulty getting new users.

There's an easy solution. Not within the scope of this game, but it's helpful to think about.

Hammer voting.

That way ANY time of the day could be the last two hours. If you don't know when day ends, you need to go ahead and put your vote where it counts.

That all said, this wasn't a hot potato lynch.

[nutella]

another reason you can't do this crap, JJJ, is b/c of time zones. it is very disrespectful to those across the pond. Mac may be bad, and if so....good for those voters, praise be. But if not, that poor man had no way to defend himself b/c the thread decided to change things up on him while he was asleep. this is why we have 24 hours to discuss, so that everyone can be involved WHEN THEY ARE AWAKE. Voting someone while they are asleep and not giving them time to rebuttle is horrible.

linki...okay, he was mafia. my point still stands.

Elo, I am the only one who voted Mac against my gut because of Jay. Many of these votes moved as a natural result of Juliets claim. There was not some big CFD that occurred out of nowhere. This was just normal game play. I’ve been feeling pretty uncertain all day long with my reads flipping all over the place. You can’t honestly expect that people won’t sometimes change their minds or do unexpected things close to EOD sometimes.

Right, this. There were a lot of factors and discussion that culminated in the best option for the civilians, so I see no problem.

[Spacedaisy]

can you tell I am angry? Mafia makes me so angry these days. I hate the way it is played. I am so angry, I don't even care we got a mafia on day 1. y'all upset me. I am going to cool off.
linki - busser = jay according to daisy

What? I didn’t say jay bussed anyone. jay was the one who instigated that lynch.

[speedchuck]

Doesn't really matter if people can defend themselves. Most of the time it just makes them look worse. Unless everyone is going to be supahtowning or supahscumming, we just have to read people based on what they've posted so far.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Nutella hiding behind a posting gimmick and throwing TMI all over the place then giving weak player salad suspicions without sincerity and preempting suspicion = die.

[Spacedaisy]

What are you saying about Nutella there Jack? Because I feel like Jay and Nutella are the most Town locks at this point after that lynch.

[Jackofhearts2005]

What are you saying about Nutella there Jack? Because I feel like Jay and Nutella are the most Town locks at this point after that lynch.

That’s what I’m saying too.

[juliets]

What are you saying about Nutella there Jack? Because I feel like Jay and Nutella are the most Town locks at this point after that lynch.

I agree.

[Lunalee]

Sweet, we're off to a good start. Kudos to those who got the Mac wagon rolling.

[Spacedaisy]

What are you saying about Nutella there Jack? Because I feel like Jay and Nutella are the most Town locks at this point after that lynch.

That’s what I’m saying too.

Awesome. It’s good to finally be on the same page about something. I’m sorry for my frustration with you.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

My problem is that most people seem to avoid the game thread until the last two hours, when they start playing and posting and voting. People don't even take wagons seriously until they start considering their votes in those last two hours.

I'm not sure if that has happened in this game but it has happened quite often in past ones.

And yes, it is an invitation for people who can't be online at EoD not to play games. I'm trying to figure out if there is a correlation between that and the fact his site has difficulty getting new users.

There's an easy solution. Not within the scope of this game, but it's helpful to think about.

Hammer voting.

That way ANY time of the day could be the last two hours. If you don't know when day ends, you need to go ahead and put your vote where it counts.

That all said, this wasn't a hot potato lynch.

I am noticing my unhappiness is not very well related with the current game, so I think I'll stop arguing this for now

[nutella]

Dunya also townlock.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Team Nutella trying to build a counterwagon on a player that gets lynched a lot?

Nother good look for Nutella. Maybe a bad one for Luna.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Mac gives Nova a bunch of grief. Not sure what to make of it. Somebody take a look.

[Jackofhearts2005]

What are you saying about Nutella there Jack? Because I feel like Jay and Nutella are the most Town locks at this point after that lynch.

That’s what I’m saying too.

Awesome. It’s good to finally be on the same page about something. I’m sorry for my frustration with you.

I’m a frustrating guy.

Sorry for suspecting you. Pretty sure you’re town with this flip.

[MacDougall]

Holy shit I didn't expect that. Well done.

[speedchuck]

Holy shit I didn't expect that. Well done.

Mac's a cool guy

[Jackofhearts2005]

Good sport.

[Jackofhearts2005]

D1 mafia lynch like 4 games running for me. The age of scum wins is over.

[nutella]

Holy shit I didn't expect that. Well done.

Daisy I take back including you on the busser list, jack is right you look really town now after a moment's thought and your last few posts.

I have a rainbow cooking up in my head but I think I will wait til dawn to post it.

[speedchuck]

Is this the fourth straight game to have a D1 scumlynch?

Aside from always sunny, looks like

linkilinki

[Elohcin]

can you tell I am angry? Mafia makes me so angry these days. I hate the way it is played. I am so angry, I don't even care we got a mafia on day 1. y'all upset me. I am going to cool off.
linki - busser = jay according to daisy

What? I didn’t say jay bussed anyone. jay was the one who instigated that lynch.

I thought bus=instigator, sorry.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Is this the fourth straight game to have a D1 scumlynch?

Aside from always sunny, looks like

linkilinki

More evidence Speedchuck is just me without a goatee.

[Elohcin]

Dunya also townlock.

all these townlocks. SMH.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

D1 mafia lynch like 4 games running for me. The age of scum wins is over.

Now we complete the prophecy when I am killed and we lose.

[Jackofhearts2005]

D1 mafia lynch like 4 games running for me. The age of scum wins is over.

Now we complete the prophecy when I am killed and we lose.

Lol I’m so proud.

[MacDougall]

My life in song form. Goodbye.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Master's Thesis

or

17 interactive analyses

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I can do both. I'm JaggedJimmyJay.

[nutella]

14 at the most. You can skip me and dunya and juliets.

[nutella]

Also like half of them have <10 posts lol.

[Long Con]

If there's a busser, I'm not it. I thought I got on the Mac suspicion before it really took off... I guess that would be the ideal way to bus, but I don't think I would dare to take out a Mac-teammate that hard, especially when he's not even around to give me the go-ahead.

Although Mac DID mention me as a loose "I'd lynch Long Con out of these four non-posters" which actually looks pretty bad for me. But seriously, I am Civ.

[novaselinenever]

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH



[mention]MacDougall[/mention] I'm coming for you

[novaselinenever]

Good job guys! Dude had me fooled with his efforts today, I should have continued tunneling

[novaselinenever]

14 at the most. You can skip me and dunya and juliets.

You can skip me too

[nutella]

If there's a busser, I'm not it. I thought I got on the Mac suspicion before it really took off... I guess that would be the ideal way to bus, but I don't think I would dare to take out a Mac-teammate that hard, especially when he's not even around to give me the go-ahead.

Although Mac DID mention me as a loose "I'd lynch Long Con out of these four non-posters" which actually looks pretty bad for me. But seriously, I am Civ.

Okay.

[nutella]

14 at the most. You can skip me and dunya and juliets.

You can skip me too

No sorry dude you're down to a neutral.

[novaselinenever]

14 at the most. You can skip me and dunya and juliets.

You can skip me too

No sorry dude you're down to a neutral.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

MacDougall and Dragon D. Luffy

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Yay I love tearing apart silly "fishing for reaction" day 0 arguments.

Yet here you are with zero reads. What have you accomplished?

What is this, a job interview?

I don't have to accomplish shit.

This feels fake and reinforces DDL/Jay not w/w.

I felt quite the opposite to this Jack. It's a perfectly natural reaction from DDL to Jay spew.

Mac stood in DDL's defense when Jack said he felt fake. It's certainly white-knighting. The meaning of that will be easier to judge as I observe the trend that I know will develop.

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I feel some of the people townreading me are bad. At least one of them

Feels like one of those games where I manage to post in a very obvious civ way which convinces people, but baddies already noticed that and are blending in.

I might get NKd soon.

I feel like I've been able to civ read you better lately. Things that I used to incorrectly read you as Mafia for I now see as civ traits. Tbh it was mostly my cynicism because I used to read you bad for having strong insights that I chalked up to TMI but I've come to realise that we sort of see the game similarly. The way that I have been handling our interactions in games lately is a lot of the reason I feel my civilian game has improved. That and taking a back seat more. I realised that even though I have strong insight into scum, that brute forcing my opinions into the thread was counterintuitive to civilian wins and started playing more cerebrally. Less plaudits but stronger results. Only took me 8 years.

DDL suggested there might be a mafioso among the people reading him as a civilian. He did not specifically name Mac, but Mac nonetheless felt the need to respond. This is severe over-justification, and I think it's nice for DDL that it wasn't a two-way interaction. If he wanted to distance from Mac I'd expect him to name Mac.

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Yay I love tearing apart silly "fishing for reaction" day 0 arguments.

Yet here you are with zero reads. What have you accomplished?

What is this, a job interview?

I don't have to accomplish shit.

This feels fake and reinforces DDL/Jay not w/w.

Looping back around on this one I questioned before, I got the distinctly opposite impression from reading that DDL post. It's exactly how I would have felt. Don't like that we're not on the same page in this game Jack. My face has scrunched up in confusion from several of your posts.

This is an extension of the first point. Mac used his civilian read on DDL as a conduit to shit on Jack, which is certainly compatible with TMI.

Dark green in Mac's rainbow -- unsurprising

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I am trying to make heads or tails of this mac juliets weirdness and nope.

Nutella hiding behind a posting gimmick and throwing TMI all over the place then giving weak player salad suspicions without sincerity and preempting suspicion = die.

I don't wanna parrot people but this is the third time someone attacks nutella and I agree with it.

Let's [VOTE: nutella] aubergine before Mac also joins the ranks of the "maybe nutella is a civ" crew too and I lose my point of support.

DDL supported Mac against nutella. He did say that Mac's attack was the third he agreed with, lending some plausibility to the notion that Mac is only an incidental part of this. DDL didn't mention the other people though.

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Pretty sure it was you who actually told me to start doing that quite a while ago too.

Not sure if I told it to you directly, but it is reqlly something I did myself. I used to tunnel vision a lot more.

Oh yeah it's in my sig hahaha.

Oh that.

Okay whatever

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You mean that nagging feeling Mac is pocketing me? I have it too.

It would be a creative approach for mafia teammates to take here -- one of them strongly supports the other, while the reverse is distancing by way of "pocketing". I don't get that impression. DDL was on to Mac's shit.

DDL's vote ended the day on nutella.

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Conclusion: I don't think DDL is a likely teammate of Mac.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

MacDougall and dunya

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Sounds like Lunalee knows dunya is town to me.

Sounds like MacDougall knows dunya is town to me.

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dunya griping about my reads being fake is the worst thing in this thread. She knows me better than that.

Funny how you say this and then have barely looked at dunya since even going as far as to give her a green skittle.

Mac's swipe at me here could have many interpretations. I get the impression he was trying to link dunya and I as possible teammates.

Mac calls dunya town and supports one of her gripes with nova. This means more to me regarding nova, which I'll talk about later.

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dunya griping about my reads being fake is the worst thing in this thread. She knows me better than that.

Please town read me so I can be n1 lynched 4 games in a row. Please. Please. Begging you please.

Lol town

Mac wants dunya in his pocket.

Dark green in Mac's rainbow -- unsurprising

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@MacDougall who are some of your town reads?

You

why?

Are there some scummy things you've done I should have noticed?

i'll never >not< be creeped out by you townreading me.

i did something scummy on day 0 where i suspected jay cos of his speedchuck/matahari reads. have a look in my early iso.

So you want me to go and find this post that you yourself say is scummy in order to scum read you so that you aren't creeped out by me town reading you?

Okay. Must be a European thing.

dunya is digging at Mac and he is responding with snark. Doesn't look like teammate stuff to me.

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[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

why would town mac give dunya an easy day green pass just because she hasn't said something "scummy"? other people have found things scummy in what i've said. i don't feel you're being genuine and the sarcasm on me was lost.

i'm not even here to play my hardest civ game, so don't tell me my "civ" is shining through. explain what gave you good vibes about me or this becomes as bad as elohcin's "green" to luna that everyone took issue with imo.

I clearly pointed at a post you made that filled me with feelings of civ sincerity that you didn't bother to reference. I asked you to give me a reason not to town read you after that. You had not done so at the time but I have cause to reconsider.

You do this a lot Dunya. You think I can't read you or something. The last several times we have played together I correctly town read you. You need to update your copy of mac.exe.

dunya didn't buy it, voted Mac, and he responded with this half-indignant thing. The yellow portion looks like an effort to shade dunya, but he didn't want to follow-through and maintained a civilian read on her. He's struggling to deal with his accuser here.

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i see mac's name thrown around a lot and i don't remember him posting anything except hey whatsup guys? what did i miss?

dunya's first focused Mac bit was this. It's a thing.

I'm skipping a bunch of stuff from the juliets/Mac junk because who cares

dunya couldn't find one reason to town read Mac -- good call

MacDougall who are some of your town reads?

softball prod here, meh

Still, I'll note that this question is what led Mac to tell dunya that he read her as town, which contributed to her suspicion of him greatly. As such, I doubt this was deliberately coordinated that way.

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Conclusion: I don't think dunya is a likely teammate of Mac.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

MacDougall and Elohcin

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Why even bother putting the names there if you are just gonna put ? next to it. Is it to make the post seem bigger and more awesome?

Mac trashed Eloh's reads list a bit here. In isolation it doesn't make me feel anything (particularly when Mac did this). Note that Mac was a "?" on Eloh's list.

Elohcin gets a big gross yellow on the rainbow list.

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Nova when prodded said that every post speedchuck has made pings him.

Who agrees with that?

Because I couldn't disagree more.

I don't think chuck has given us enough to work with or to BE pinged. I'm waiting for the meds to ware off before making a decision about him.

The two of them shared a little neutral chit chat about speedchuck (granted Mac directed the post at everyone).

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MacDougall look up

I think Eloh wanted Mac to see her defense regarding her reads list here. I dunno. It's a thing.

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came back in to witness EoD and bam, things have changed. I will not catch up before the end. What did Mac do?

Eloh was startled by the shift prior to EOD and wanted some hot takes on Mac.

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I hate to see all this stirring up here at the end. Daisy says she is voting Mac b/c she is sleep deprived and annoyed and "I hope you're right Jay" but Jay is on neverwhere and not Mac. WTF people. we had 24 hours to work this out. switching around at the last damn minute usually is a mafia thing trying to get voted away from their team, am I right?

Yellow: Elohcin is actively discrediting the Mac wagon on two counts: Daisy's vote is "sleep-deprived", and Jay is not on it.

Orange: Elohcin decries the vote switches to Mac and says something that is just plain untrue.

I don't like this stuff.

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another reason you can't do this crap, JJJ, is b/c of time zones. it is very disrespectful to those across the pond. Mac may be bad, and if so....good for those voters, praise be. But if not, that poor man had no way to defend himself b/c the thread decided to change things up on him while he was asleep. this is why we have 24 hours to discuss, so that everyone can be involved WHEN THEY ARE AWAKE. Voting someone while they are asleep and not giving them time to rebuttle is horrible.

linki...okay, he was mafia. my point still stands.

I can't help but wonder if Elohcin's frustration is tied to the fact that Mac was on her team and she wasn't able to prevent his surprising destruction.

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Conclusion: This doesn't scream teammates at me, but I won't rule it out. I'd like to hear how others feel about her handling of EOD in particular. The emotion ought to be readable either way.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Eloh tends to complain a lot. There’s probably a pattern with her complaining about teammate lynches or not.

[nutella]

I think eloh is a technically possible teammate but not a hugely likely one. I don't think she blows up at that right at EOD with the linki saying "oh he was bad but still" like that if she was his teammate, but maybe she would idk.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

MacDougall and Jackofhearts2005

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Yay I love tearing apart silly "fishing for reaction" day 0 arguments.

Yet here you are with zero reads. What have you accomplished?

What is this, a job interview?

I don't have to accomplish shit.

This feels fake and reinforces DDL/Jay not w/w.

I felt quite the opposite to this Jack. It's a perfectly natural reaction from DDL to Jay spew.

Mac gave Jack shit about his DDL read. This doesn't mean much to me.

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Current gut read after having caught up

Jack - bad
Jay - bad
Dunya - Town
Luna - Town
Mata - Town
Nova - Town
Juliets - slight bad lean
Speed - Town
Nutella - rude

Everyone else is null.

I'd like to hear more about your Jay and Jack suspicions.

Generic prod about Jack and I. This doesn't mean much to me.

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Yay I love tearing apart silly "fishing for reaction" day 0 arguments.

Yet here you are with zero reads. What have you accomplished?

What is this, a job interview?

I don't have to accomplish shit.

This feels fake and reinforces DDL/Jay not w/w.

Looping back around on this one I questioned before, I got the distinctly opposite impression from reading that DDL post. It's exactly how I would have felt. Don't like that we're not on the same page in this game Jack. My face has scrunched up in confusion from several of your posts.

Mac brought this out again. He's clearly shading Jack. It isn't substantial pressure. I'm not moved.

Mac sticks Jack in the red pile in his rainbow -- this seems extreme given the soft accusations preceding it. I think Mac felt like he needed another red and just figured Jack was the best fit. That's decent for Jack. Mac griped about anime gifs too as if that matters.

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Hahahaha - will nova and Mac be on the same side? Will they both win or lose? OR will one of them move ahead in the only game that counts?

Does Juliets know the answers to some of these questions?

OOOOooof sPiCy


Any major dude will tell you

Does anyone think that nutella found this to be spicy?

I mean if Juliets knows one of them will win, she knows Mac and Nova aren’t the same alignment. That would make her mafia and since the accusation comes from Nova, Mac mafia as well.

Saying Mac and Juliets have w/w equity right out of the gate is pretty spicy imo.

Jack thinks juliets/Mac is spicy but doesn't necessarily agree with it.

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We weren’t talking about Juliets. We were talking about Nutella’s reaction to Nova talking about Juliets.

I'm talking about how other people view a dialogue, not its literal nature. There's often a stark difference.

And I’m talking about Daisy being sensitive to discussion about Juliets to the point where she’s scumreading stuff that isn’t even about Juliets, stuff that is explicitly as much about Mac and she didn’t even mention Mac.

Jack is cranky that Spacedaisy didn't mention Mac and ties that into his theory about her and juliets. I think Mac is an incidental piece here and not meaningful. There's a bunch of other shit about this that I am not going to include.

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Yay I love tearing apart silly "fishing for reaction" day 0 arguments.

Yet here you are with zero reads. What have you accomplished?

What is this, a job interview?

I don't have to accomplish shit.

This feels fake and reinforces DDL/Jay not w/w.

Looping back around on this one I questioned before, I got the distinctly opposite impression from reading that DDL post. It's exactly how I would have felt. Don't like that we're not on the same page in this game Jack. My face has scrunched up in confusion from several of your posts.

If it makes you feel better, I’ve liked most of DDL’s posts since then.

Jack's response to Mac's gripe was weak, so it's a soft exchange on both sides. That's not my favorite thing. More

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[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

why would town mac give dunya an easy day green pass just because she hasn't said something "scummy"? other people have found things scummy in what i've said. i don't feel you're being genuine and the sarcasm on me was lost.

i'm not even here to play my hardest civ game, so don't tell me my "civ" is shining through. explain what gave you good vibes about me or this becomes as bad as elohcin's "green" to luna that everyone took issue with imo.

“Mac’s not getting lynched today.”

Oh?

Jack questions whether one of my beefs with Mac is spicy -- okay

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The reason I ask is this:

When there is a highly active Day 1, and a variety of reads/wagons/initiatives are revolving around the discussion without a good inspiration for confidence (I think we're close to that now), lynching a less-active player is usually a good idea. As it stands my strongest suspicion is on MacDougall. I acknowledge that it isn't rock solid shite, but I haven't seen a single rock solid case in this thread yet. Refer to the last 25% of the video in my signature for more information.

Are you classifying Mac as less active?

This is a bit defensive implicitly.

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Go on and vote Mac, Daisy.

I have not felt Mac was bad. Like at all. I’d be more inclined to vote nutella, but I don’t see good reason for that either except for jumping on nova’s joke which I didn’t think she was serious about originally.

*scribbles aggressively*

This might be a nice moment. I don't care much that Jack challenged Daisy to vote Mac specifically, but rather that it seems to me that Jack's focus genuinely is on Daisy -- this would indicate he isn't as concerned with Mac's demise as he is with Daisy's activity (not the case if he's Mac's teammate).

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Last chance for me: who will vote Neverwhere?

Over Mac and Nutella? Yeah.

I don't really care that Jack moved his vote with me here. It was never likely to result in a lynch; it was a last-second why-not thing.

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Conclusion: It's a dirty record at times with Jack. It seems like it always is. He plays in a manner which inherently attracts dirt, to his credit. He should answer to the gripes that exist here. Gun to my head, he's not Mac's teammate.

[Jackofhearts2005]

The only things you’re missing is that the “Mac isn’t getting lynched today” is a shot at Dunya for saying a Daisy lynch wasn’t happening. It wasn’t about Mac at all. And that I was legit just asking if Mac was a low poster in your eyes. I can see how that looks like defense cause he did have 50 posts so “no” but

[JaggedJimmyJay]

MacDougall and juliets

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I am trying to make heads or tails of this mac juliets weirdness and nope.

If the weirdness was true I'd expect more dissociative effort than this.

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Mac, any reads you have to share would be appreciated.

k

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I like juliets. I feel like she is involved more so than usual. I am not entirely sure why that would be but I don't think it is in a bad way and I don't really want to discourage it. I'd give her a light green skittle (if I had skittles to give).

This read was more transparently fake, because it was based on a non-existent observation -- that juliets was "more involved than usual". I think Mac had established an agenda for pocketing in this game, so this could be another example. I can't say I care for the overt fakeness though.

The read was only worth a light green in the rainbow list. Fart.

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Hahahaha - will nova and Mac be on the same side? Will they both win or lose? OR will one of them move ahead in the only game that counts?

SPICY.

I don't care about this.

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Jay, what is the reason you think Mac hasn't given a definitive read on you? I'm trying to see how that makes him potentially bad.

lots of linki

juliets sought better understanding of my suspicion of Mac. I have no beef with that.

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What isn't genuine about his civilian reads? The DDL one was something prompted from their interactions, and felt like natural conversation especially considering its context (The Firefly game).

He wrote a novella to explain why he read DDL as a civilian. I don't believe that was necessary, and I don't believe that's how MacDougall operates. He was similar in his handling of dunya. He technically called me light green, but I haven't the faintest idea why -- his read on me doesn't exist. He said he liked juliets because she is "more involved than usual" (no she isn't?). He loved Kites for his big reads post, which is such an easy thing to say.

Bleh.

Ok here's what I see. I initially liked his posts about DDL and I really liked his reads wall (even tho I didn't agree with everything) because he was explaining why he had the reads he did. Looking back over it though what strikes me is he never does this. He usually just throws out reads with no backup whatsoever and when people question him he ignores it or responds negatively. But is this indicative of a bad Mac or just a style change? I need to look at a bad Mac game, anyone know a recent one?

lots of linki

This post follows a rather typical formula that is sometimes ugly:

I liked _____ before, but now I will say something in support of your suspicion of _____

At face value I don't care for that. I do appreciate though that juliets's gripe was unique to her: that Mac's reads list was plain off-meta regardless of authenticity.

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Conclusion: I think a case can be made against juliets. I don't really want to though. I don't struggle to separate her from Mac and the claim remains (I believe her).

[juliets]

On Eloh, she was so angry - more angry than it seemed was warranted about the issue of Mac not being here - that I thought the anger was over more than that issue. The way she talked about hating the way mafia was played for instance, it was like she just snapped. I didn't get the feeling that her anger stemmed from a teammate being lynched. It seemed deeper than that. I also don't think she would have showed this much anger had she been a teammate of Mac. That's just my opinion though, I'd like to know if others see something different.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[mention]Elohcin[/mention]

Gimmie some of your scum games. I’m goong to try to figure you out again.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[mention]speedchuck[/mention]

Psycho Pass or Hat In Time?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

MacDougall and Kites

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Jesus fuck that Kites wall post is gold. I'm gonna read it some more after I get back to it but it's the biggest town look so far. So much sincerity.

Exaggerated. Dark green in the rainbow to follow.

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Mac - I love this guy and his arrogant behaviour, if it was up to me I’d keep him till the end. unlesss he is bad but I don’t have any suspicions right now

Love is in the air.

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so hmm juliets lynch dried up very quickly cos she claimed stump. it does seem like a role that fits the setup, it’s reasonable

it’s between nutella and mac now and i’m torn. mainly cos mac isn’t here and i will feel bad for lynching him. but like i said i don’t feel a nutella lynch and i doubt a lurker lynch will take off and i would take part in that anyways

fuck it

[VOTE: mac] aubergine

I kinda like that Kites had to settle for Mac here instead of enthusiastically embrace it. It's not typically what bussing looks like.

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Conclusion: There's not a ton to say, so any conclusions here should be tempered. I think he looks just okay.