Snow Dog wrote:We have to presume someone else was possesed last night. Now we have two players under Bob's thrall and Bob himself. There are eight of us. That's 5 - 3. We really need to lync one of these guys. If you were Bob Llama who do yuou think you would have recruited?
Wow, I hadn't done the math yet. So few of us left considering there have been no NKs yet. We REALLY need to get BOB.
I may look more closely at BWT now that Lucy has mentioned him as well. Unless Roxy is Lucy, that makes 2 other people eyeing him.
I'm still torn on Kate, and think Vomps supporting her against Snowie and llama is interesting. Just based on numbers I'd say someone there has to be bad, but I'd be hard-pressed to say who. I've been reading Snowie as civ. Kate's show info has been pretty informative and other than the Nevinera lynch (which, admittedly, went very poorly) she's seemed more or less well-meaning,
Snow Dog wrote:We have to presume someone else was possesed last night. Now we have two players under Bob's thrall and Bob himself. There are eight of us. That's 5 - 3. We really need to lync one of these guys. If you were Bob Llama who do yuou think you would have recruited?
If I were bob, I would want to recruit someone who is drawing little suspicion to themselves. I wouldn't get one of the people currently under suspicion, for fear that they would be lynched. Maybe someone along the lines of Roxy or Matahari whom no one has really been talking about. I also think MP deserves a look, since he is very good at playing baddies and he has been quiet enough this game to avoid scrutiny.
I agree with your thoughts. I would have recruited Vompatti I think and next....if I was brave....Kate. Now MP is very busy at the moment and even asked to be replaced. So I would not recruit him in case he wasn't around enough.
Apparently Lucy thinks I don't stick around enough? Alright. The good thing is that today, I will be here for the rest of the morning and a good chunk of the afternoon. So that thankfully won't be an issue for now.
As for the Nev lynch, I agree it went quite terribly. I might even consider eyeing Kate a bit today. However, she's given us a lot of helpful info in regards to the show itself, for those of us who have never watched it. And honestly, I can't see a baddie Kate going all-out on someone like she did on Nev and taking such a big risk if he flipped civ. So while I get the feeling she's going to be getting eyed and voted from by several people today, I will not be voting for her myself.
As for who to look at today, I honestly don't know. I'm leaning toward some quieter people and people who haven't garnered much suspicion as either Bob or recruits. But I really don't know where to start. :/
birdwithteeth11 wrote:Apparently Lucy thinks I don't stick around enough? Alright. The good thing is that today, I will be here for the rest of the morning and a good chunk of the afternoon. So that thankfully won't be an issue for now.
As for the Nev lynch, I agree it went quite terribly. I might even consider eyeing Kate a bit today. However, she's given us a lot of helpful info in regards to the show itself, for those of us who have never watched it. And honestly, I can't see a baddie Kate going all-out on someone like she did on Nev and taking such a big risk if he flipped civ. So while I get the feeling she's going to be getting eyed and voted from by several people today, I will not be voting for her myself.
As for who to look at today, I honestly don't know. I'm leaning toward some quieter people and people who haven't garnered much suspicion as either Bob or recruits. But I really don't know where to start. :/
I for one would be glad of more of a contribution from you. I also am not sure of a Kate lynch. Unless she is playing a really ballsy baddie game.
I apologize for some of the stuff I posted yesterday. I had to have an MRI (I get migraines and every 6 months they give me one just for shits and giggles I presume) and I have to be heavily sedated. I'm not taking back that I was certain that Nev was going to come back as Bob, and I still don't understand how any of it gels, but I do acknowledge that I did get mad and I did go over the line in some of the things I said.
Andrew wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2013 6:47 pm
I'm voting llama again because I think I heard him say something that looks like proof.
birdwithteeth11 wrote:Apparently Lucy thinks I don't stick around enough? Alright. The good thing is that today, I will be here for the rest of the morning and a good chunk of the afternoon. So that thankfully won't be an issue for now.
As for the Nev lynch, I agree it went quite terribly. I might even consider eyeing Kate a bit today. However, she's given us a lot of helpful info in regards to the show itself, for those of us who have never watched it. And honestly, I can't see a baddie Kate going all-out on someone like she did on Nev and taking such a big risk if he flipped civ. So while I get the feeling she's going to be getting eyed and voted from by several people today, I will not be voting for her myself.
As for who to look at today, I honestly don't know. I'm leaning toward some quieter people and people who haven't garnered much suspicion as either Bob or recruits. But I really don't know where to start. :/
I for one would be glad of more of a contribution from you. I also am not sure of a Kate lynch. Unless she is playing a really ballsy baddie game.
I don't see Kate being the kind of person who would do that honestly. I know Roxy said she has seen it happen once, but I agree with SVS. I think it's a case of Zombie/Shinny Syndrome lol poor Shinny, so that's why I think it is very unlikely she is bad. Plus if she was bad, made such a big case on Nev, and he gets lynched and flips civ, she knows she's the next one out the door.
So yeah, unless she's fooled me, I don't see how she could be a baddie. In which case I will probably never trust her again.
The question is: is Kate clever/gutsy enough to campaign so obviously for a civvie lynch with the expectation that she would then be able to talk her way out of being lynched herself? The more she posts, the more I think maybe she is civvie with bad info, but if she IS bad and pulls this off it will be epic (and frustrating.)
Linki w/ BWT.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
Vompatti wrote:I'm always quiet and I'm always being suspected for being quiet. I prefer to sit and listen unless I have something significant to contribute.
Incidentally I think we should trust Kate and be doubtful of thellama instead.
Oh so pingy. The Llama and I are confirmed civvies. What have you got as evidence? Even if he was posessed last night you still have nothing to go on.
How is it that you are confirmed civvies? Assymming maddie searched for you two both nights and didn't die that means that you have a 50/50 shot of not being bob. It does not mean You are not possessed.
Already commented on all this.
Yes, except you continue to say it as if it is fact, which it is not.
Andrew wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2013 6:47 pm
I'm voting llama again because I think I heard him say something that looks like proof.
thellama73 wrote:The question is: is Kate clever/gutsy enough to campaign so obviously for a civvie lynch with the expectation that she would then be able to talk her way out of being lynched herself? The more she posts, the more I think maybe she is civvie with bad info, but if she IS bad and pulls this off it will be epic (and frustrating.)
Linki w/ BWT.
While I shamefully admit I may be clever enough, I am not gutsy enough.
Andrew wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2013 6:47 pm
I'm voting llama again because I think I heard him say something that looks like proof.
Vompatti wrote:I'm always quiet and I'm always being suspected for being quiet. I prefer to sit and listen unless I have something significant to contribute.
Incidentally I think we should trust Kate and be doubtful of thellama instead.
Oh so pingy. The Llama and I are confirmed civvies. What have you got as evidence? Even if he was posessed last night you still have nothing to go on.
How is it that you are confirmed civvies? Assymming maddie searched for you two both nights and didn't die that means that you have a 50/50 shot of not being bob. It does not mean You are not possessed.
Already commented on all this.
Yes, except you continue to say it as if it is fact, which it is not.
Oh...I thought it was. I certainly believe llama is civ due to Nev's info. I have no reason to disbelieve him. He seemed very certain. So I have no doubt Llama is civ and I know I am, so nev is right and his info is good.
Snow Dog wrote:
Incidentally I think we should trust Kate and be doubtful of thellama instead.
Oh so pingy. The Llama and I are confirmed civvies. What have you got as evidence? Even if he was posessed last night you still have nothing to go on.
How is it that you are confirmed civvies? Assymming maddie searched for you two both nights and didn't die that means that you have a 50/50 shot of not being bob. It does not mean You are not possessed.
Already commented on all this.
Yes, except you continue to say it as if it is fact, which it is not.
Oh...I thought it was. I certainly believe llama is civ due to Nev's info. I have no reason to disbelieve him. He seemed very certain. So I have no doubt Llama is civ and I know I am, so nev is right and his info is good.[/quote]
Except Snow Dog, we know who he was and we know that there is NO WAY he can be 100% certain about that fact. So, just because you would like it to give you civ status, sadly it doesn't. Not to mention the fact that an even day has now passed and either of you could have been recruited. You also seem to conveniently keep ignoring the fact that he said you were not BOB, not that you were not a minion.
Andrew wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2013 6:47 pm
I'm voting llama again because I think I heard him say something that looks like proof.
That's what makes this game so tough. We are not searching for roles to kill, but rather people who will have been recruited. It could literally be anyone, including myself and Snow Dog.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
^I haven't forgotten anything. I am not a minion so I can answer that. Plus I don't know nor do you how Nev received his info and how much. All I am saying and saying again (and again) is that he seemed fairly certain. I believe him. I do not believe you. So I AM CERTAIN, you are not. c'est la vie. I am saying and will continue to maintain that Llama and I are confirmed civs. Also i received no vote for the lynch and there was no night kill.
OK...today I could be posessed...but so could you.
I am not though. Not yet. So let's get Bob or a minion lynched shall we? Put these squabbles aside?
I think I will be looking for a Nevinera voter today. Bob and his recruit would have wanted to go along with the bandwagon knowing that they would lynch a civ, and one who was info dumping against them at that. That leave Kate, MP, and Matahari. I am coming around to believing Kate, so I will probably vote for one of the other two.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
Snow Dog wrote:^I haven't forgotten anything. I am not a minion so I can answer that. Plus I don't know nor do you how Nev received his info and how much. All I am saying and saying again (and again) is that he seemed fairly certain. I believe him. I do not believe you. So I AM CERTAIN, you are not. c'est la vie. I am saying and will continue to maintain that Llama and I are confirmed civs. Also i received no vote for the lynch and there was no night kill.
OK...today I could be posessed...but so could you.
I am not though. Not yet. So let's get Bob or a minion lynched shall we? Put these squabbles aside?
ok
Andrew wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2013 6:47 pm
I'm voting llama again because I think I heard him say something that looks like proof.
Snow Dog wrote:^I haven't forgotten anything. I am not a minion so I can answer that. Plus I don't know nor do you how Nev received his info and how much. All I am saying and saying again (and again) is that he seemed fairly certain. I believe him. I do not believe you. So I AM CERTAIN, you are not. c'est la vie. I am saying and will continue to maintain that Llama and I are confirmed civs. Also i received no vote for the lynch and there was no night kill.
OK...today I could be posessed...but so could you.
I am not though. Not yet. So let's get Bob or a minion lynched shall we? Put these squabbles aside?
Just one other thing to add and I'll move on, I promise, if I was one of two people who did not receive a vote, I sure as heck would not have killed. Just sayin'. I'm not accusing you or anything but just thought that should be said.
Andrew wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2013 6:47 pm
I'm voting llama again because I think I heard him say something that looks like proof.
Snow Dog wrote:^I haven't forgotten anything. I am not a minion so I can answer that. Plus I don't know nor do you how Nev received his info and how much. All I am saying and saying again (and again) is that he seemed fairly certain. I believe him. I do not believe you. So I AM CERTAIN, you are not. c'est la vie. I am saying and will continue to maintain that Llama and I are confirmed civs. Also i received no vote for the lynch and there was no night kill.
OK...today I could be posessed...but so could you.
I am not though. Not yet. So let's get Bob or a minion lynched shall we? Put these squabbles aside?
ok
Great. Any thoughts on who could be likely recruited or who could be Bob?
I'm kinda leaning towards Vompatti and BWT at the moment.
linki with Kate...ye but we don't know how the role works. If the minion has a choice I agree. But if he or she has to because Bob says then that is a different ball park.
Snow Dog wrote:There are eight of us. That's 5 - 3. We really need to lync one of these guys. If you were Bob Llama who do yuou think you would have recruited?
Wow, I hadn't done the math yet. So few of us left considering there have been no NKs yet. We REALLY need to get BOB.
Wait a minute, there aren't eight of us, there are ten of us!
1. birdwithteeth11
2. Blindfaeth(Matahari)
3. Elohcin(Roxy)
4. Kate
5. MovingPictures07
6. Russtifinko
7. Snow Dog
8. SVS
9. thellama73
10. Vompatti
Lies, Snow Dog! Lies!
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
Snow Dog wrote:There are eight of us. That's 5 - 3. We really need to lync one of these guys. If you were Bob Llama who do yuou think you would have recruited?
Wow, I hadn't done the math yet. So few of us left considering there have been no NKs yet. We REALLY need to get BOB.
Wait a minute, there aren't eight of us, there are ten of us!
1. birdwithteeth11
2. Blindfaeth(Matahari)
3. Elohcin(Roxy)
4. Kate
5. MovingPictures07
6. Russtifinko
7. Snow Dog
8. SVS
9. thellama73
10. Vompatti
Snow Dog wrote:
Weird. I counted only eight in the poll above.
There are only eight in the poll above. BWT and SVS are not listed.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
So, there are nightly info roles that don't produce dependable info, and unless the minions have to kill, then we won't get info from that either. Meanwhile, bob will be growing his empire, while choosing not to kill?
Finding bob is also difficult because he is not the only role without a nightly action.
As far as I can see, the best bet is to search posts for un-civvie behavior.
Vompatti wrote:I'm always quiet and I'm always being suspected for being quiet. I prefer to sit and listen unless I have something significant to contribute.
Incidentally I think we should trust Kate and be doubtful of thellama instead.
Oh so pingy. The Llama and I are confirmed civvies. What have you got as evidence? Even if he was posessed last night you still have nothing to go on.
Confirmed civvies??
What I would assume is Nevin checked you for James, and did not die either night, so there is a 50% chance you are not BOB. ??
I am on phone, did INH answer my question about the baddies being able to choose not to kill?
Skip softly, my moonbeams, for I have heard tell
That the stairs up to heaven lead straight down to hell
Snow Dog wrote:
Weird. I counted only eight in the poll above.
There are only eight in the poll above. BWT and SVS are not listed.
Do you know why?
Anyway that's good. But our chances of getting a baddie lynch are worse. So it's 7 - 3.
I don't think SVS or BWT are bad, so I think that is a good thing.
Agree.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
Vompatti wrote:I'm always quiet and I'm always being suspected for being quiet. I prefer to sit and listen unless I have something significant to contribute.
Incidentally I think we should trust Kate and be doubtful of thellama instead.
Oh so pingy. The Llama and I are confirmed civvies. What have you got as evidence? Even if he was posessed last night you still have nothing to go on.
Confirmed civvies??
What I would assume is Nevin checked you for James, and did not die either night, so there is a 50% chance you are not BOB. ??
I am on phone, did INH answer my question about the baddies being able to choose not to kill?
getting a bit fed up of answering the same thing. Certainly not doing it again.
S~V~S wrote:And I am getting a bit fed up with you evading that 50% thing
Voting Snowy
That seems impulsive to me. He didn't have a vote last night and there was no night kill. Do you think he would pass up the opportunity to kill to maintain his cover when his team are only a couple of kills/conversions away from a majority?
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
S~V~S wrote:And I am getting a bit fed up with you evading that 50% thing
Voting Snowy
I haven't evaded anything. I have answered fully previously. I thought everyone knowing Llama and I were civvies was a good thing. For the team. You have wasted a vote.
I am fearful of spreading out our votes to much today. Since BOB and has minions have three votes today, they will be able to control the lynch and kill another civvie if we do not stick together.
I nominate Matahari for her bandwagon vote for Nevinera and quiet, cagey play style.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
S~V~S wrote:And I am getting a bit fed up with you evading that 50% thing
Voting Snowy
That seems impulsive to me. He didn't have a vote last night and there was no night kill. Do you think he would pass up the opportunity to kill to maintain his cover when his team are only a couple of kills/conversions away from a majority?
Not to mention we have nearly 2 entire days to hash this out before we need to cast votes. Another very early one from S~V~S, although at least this one was explained.
Anyway, I'm very glad to hear there are 10 of us instead of 8. Any idea how 2 people got off the poll?
thellama73 wrote:I am fearful of spreading out our votes to much today. Since BOB and has minions have three votes today, they will be able to control the lynch and kill another civvie if we do not stick together.
I nominate Matahari for her bandwagon vote for Nevinera and quiet, cagey play style.
I can probably get on board with that suggestion. Not commited to it yet though.
S~V~S wrote:And I am getting a bit fed up with you evading that 50% thing
Voting Snowy
I haven't evaded anything. I have answered fully previously. I thought everyone knowing Llama and I were civvies was a good thing. For the team. You have wasted a vote.
I'm certainly not ready to vote for you over it but you DO over and over again, ignore the fact that Maddy in no way could clear anyone of being Bob.
Andrew wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2013 6:47 pm
I'm voting llama again because I think I heard him say something that looks like proof.
There is always a possibility that Nev was Catherine Martell, and recruited. Tricky game, ya know? But I dont believe he was Catherine. I think he was exactly who he claimed. And he got railroaded. The railroading started on day 1, not day 2. Before any supposed info.
Matahari wrote:There is always a possibility that Nev was Catherine Martell, and recruited. Tricky game, ya know? But I dont believe he was Catherine. I think he was exactly who he claimed. And he got railroaded. The railroading started on day 1, not day 2. Before any supposed info.
Well the day 1 suspicions may have led to obtaining the supposed info.
Andrew wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2013 6:47 pm
I'm voting llama again because I think I heard him say something that looks like proof.
S~V~S wrote:And I am getting a bit fed up with you evading that 50% thing
Voting Snowy
I haven't evaded anything. I have answered fully previously. I thought everyone knowing Llama and I were civvies was a good thing. For the team. You have wasted a vote.
I'm certainly not ready to vote for you over it but you DO over and over again, ignore the fact that Maddy in no way could clear anyone of being Bob.
And you ignore the fact that you don't know what Maddy could have learned.
S~V~S wrote:And I am getting a bit fed up with you evading that 50% thing
Voting Snowy
I haven't evaded anything. I have answered fully previously. I thought everyone knowing Llama and I were civvies was a good thing. For the team. You have wasted a vote.
I'm certainly not ready to vote for you over it but you DO over and over again, ignore the fact that Maddy in no way could clear anyone of being Bob.
And you ignore the fact that you don't know what Maddy could have learned.
You don't know either.
Andrew wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2013 6:47 pm
I'm voting llama again because I think I heard him say something that looks like proof.
Matahari wrote:What were those suspicions again Kate? I'd like to hear the case that led you to check Nev- since there isnt one in the thread.
There was a whole back and forth between me and SVS where we mentioned him several times. He simply ignored it. It cricked my brow as one might say. What happened from there has to be left to the imagination.
Who's being Shinny like now? Look, I know I look bad, but do you actually believe that I came up with a plan to fake info to damn Nev to get a civ lynched so that I'd be in this situation today? How pray tell does that help me at all???
Andrew wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2013 6:47 pm
I'm voting llama again because I think I heard him say something that looks like proof.
Vompatti wrote:I'm always quiet and I'm always being suspected for being quiet. I prefer to sit and listen unless I have something significant to contribute.
Incidentally I think we should trust Kate and be doubtful of thellama instead.
Oh so pingy. The Llama and I are confirmed civvies. What have you got as evidence? Even if he was posessed last night you still have nothing to go on.
Confirmed civvies??
What I would assume is Nevin checked you for James, and did not die either night, so there is a 50% chance you are not BOB. ??
I am on phone, did INH answer my question about the baddies being able to choose not to kill?
No, they have to kill someone every night, unless they get a vote.
Vompatti wrote:I'm always quiet and I'm always being suspected for being quiet. I prefer to sit and listen unless I have something significant to contribute.
Incidentally I think we should trust Kate and be doubtful of thellama instead.
Oh so pingy. The Llama and I are confirmed civvies. What have you got as evidence? Even if he was posessed last night you still have nothing to go on.
Confirmed civvies??
What I would assume is Nevin checked you for James, and did not die either night, so there is a 50% chance you are not BOB. ??
I am on phone, did INH answer my question about the baddies being able to choose not to kill?
No, they have to kill someone every night, unless they get a vote.
Vompatti wrote:I'm always quiet and I'm always being suspected for being quiet. I prefer to sit and listen unless I have something significant to contribute.
Incidentally I think we should trust Kate and be doubtful of thellama instead.
Oh so pingy. The Llama and I are confirmed civvies. What have you got as evidence? Even if he was posessed last night you still have nothing to go on.
Confirmed civvies??
What I would assume is Nevin checked you for James, and did not die either night, so there is a 50% chance you are not BOB. ??
I am on phone, did INH answer my question about the baddies being able to choose not to kill?
No, they have to kill someone every night, unless they get a vote.
I had another question about the recruits that I think is unclear from the role descriptions. Does EACH of Bob's recruits get a night kill unless THEY receiev a vote, or do the recruits kill as a team unless ANY of them gets a vote?
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
PUBLIC NOTICE: In my rush to leave, I forgot to add SVS and Birdwithteeth to the poll, and even more important, I changed the poll end time to tomorrow afternoon, not in two days. I probably will not be able to log on again until tomorrow afternoon.
Vompatti wrote:I'm always quiet and I'm always being suspected for being quiet. I prefer to sit and listen unless I have something significant to contribute.
Incidentally I think we should trust Kate and be doubtful of thellama instead.
Oh so pingy. The Llama and I are confirmed civvies. What have you got as evidence? Even if he was posessed last night you still have nothing to go on.
Confirmed civvies??
What I would assume is Nevin checked you for James, and did not die either night, so there is a 50% chance you are not BOB. ??
I am on phone, did INH answer my question about the baddies being able to choose not to kill?
No, they have to kill someone every night, unless they get a vote.
I had another question about the recruits that I think is unclear from the role descriptions. Does EACH of Bob's recruits get a night kill unless THEY receiev a vote, or do the recruits kill as a team unless ANY of them gets a vote?
S~V~S wrote:And I am getting a bit fed up with you evading that 50% thing
Voting Snowy
I haven't evaded anything. I have answered fully previously. I thought everyone knowing Llama and I were civvies was a good thing. For the team. You have wasted a vote.
I'm certainly not ready to vote for you over it but you DO over and over again, ignore the fact that Maddy in no way could clear anyone of being Bob.
And you ignore the fact that you don't know what Maddy could have learned.
You don't know either.
No I don't. But as I keep saying. Nev sounded very certain.
