Occultism Mafia - THE END

[Mongoose]

That makes me want to ote MM again tomorrow, tbh. We have another lynch survivor, so i would like to revisit the MM discussion.

I think this is for the best. I'm not leaning toward Vomps at all (although he'd make a natural independent).

[Tangrowth]

I am honestly leaning towards MM being genuine but I could be wrong of course.

[Hedgeowl]

That makes me want to ote MM again tomorrow, tbh. We have another lynch survivor, so i would like to revisit the MM discussion.

I think this is for the best. I'm not leaning toward Vomps at all (although he'd make a natural independent).

Who survived? I am not Adverse to discussing MM, but am inclined to think he's most likely civ.

The reason i think vomps was faking was the first time we have seen true insanification this game.

[birdwithteeth11]

Why the eye, Dom?

I'm still leaning towards MM being civ, so I'm not sure I want to look there. Vomps is one I would consider though. Given the way the lynch went down, I could possibly be wrong about him. Not to mention that once he was un-insanified, he didn't bother explaining his vote for INH. Or any of his other posts for that matter.

[Tangrowth]

Why the eye, Dom?

I'm still leaning towards MM being civ, so I'm not sure I want to look there. Vomps is one I would consider though. Given the way the lynch went down, I could possibly be wrong about him. Not to mention that once he was un-insanified, he didn't bother explaining his vote for INH. Or any of his other posts for that matter.

Yes, but as we saw with epig, just because Vomps failed to explain his vote doesn't make him necessarily bad.

[Mongoose]

That makes me want to ote MM again tomorrow, tbh. We have another lynch survivor, so i would like to revisit the MM discussion.

I think this is for the best. I'm not leaning toward Vomps at all (although he'd make a natural independent).

Who survived? I am not Adverse to discussing MM, but am inclined to think he's most likely civ.

The reason i think vomps was faking was the first time we have seen true insanification this game.

That's a good point. You can communicate pretty clearly through haikus, horoscopes, and weather reports. That does seem a bit like "One of these things is not like the others."

[birdwithteeth11]

Why the eye, Dom?

I'm still leaning towards MM being civ, so I'm not sure I want to look there. Vomps is one I would consider though. Given the way the lynch went down, I could possibly be wrong about him. Not to mention that once he was un-insanified, he didn't bother explaining his vote for INH. Or any of his other posts for that matter.

Yes, but as we saw with epig, just because Vomps failed to explain his vote doesn't make him necessarily bad.

Good point. But if he's not going to explain it, then what do you make of his vote? Because I think it's either 1) nonsensical, 2) has a hidden agenda, 3) is info-related. Those are the only possibilities I see here.

@Vomps: Are you still reading the thread or not?

[S~V~S]

That makes me want to ote MM again tomorrow, tbh. We have another lynch survivor, so i would like to revisit the MM discussion.

I think this is for the best. I'm not leaning toward Vomps at all (although he'd make a natural independent).

Who survived? I am not Adverse to discussing MM, but am inclined to think he's most likely civ.

The reason i think vomps was faking was the first time we have seen true insanification this game.

That's a good point. You can communicate pretty clearly through haikus, horoscopes, and weather reports. That does seem a bit like "One of these things is not like the others."

Insanification is hard. Have you ever been insanified with the engive he obviously was using?

i am not saying i trust Vomps, I actually don't, but it has nothing to do with being insanified or not. What are your reasons other than insanification? It is my experience over hundreds of games that actually insanified/silenced/etc people outnumber those pretending to be such.

This feels like such a Vompvagon. I actually hate this.

[Mongoose]

Don't worry, I;m far from convinced to vote for Vomperdoodle.

[Tangrowth]

Why the eye, Dom?

I'm still leaning towards MM being civ, so I'm not sure I want to look there. Vomps is one I would consider though. Given the way the lynch went down, I could possibly be wrong about him. Not to mention that once he was un-insanified, he didn't bother explaining his vote for INH. Or any of his other posts for that matter.

Yes, but as we saw with epig, just because Vomps failed to explain his vote doesn't make him necessarily bad.

Good point. But if he's not going to explain it, then what do you make of his vote? Because I think it's either 1) nonsensical, 2) has a hidden agenda, 3) is info-related. Those are the only possibilities I see here.

@Vomps: Are you still reading the thread or not?

He's almost always nonsensical.

Frankly, I think he's gotten bored. Which tells me he's probably civ.

[insertnamehere]

Wait, I've been lynched.

Ignore all that.

Also, fuck you guys.

[thellama73]

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[Marmot]

That makes me want to ote MM again tomorrow, tbh. We have another lynch survivor, so i would like to revisit the MM discussion.

What? I'm the only one who's survived a lynch.

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I feel like this is directed at someone but I can't figure out who. I guess someone's post was deleted.

[Dom]

That makes me want to ote MM again tomorrow, tbh. We have another lynch survivor, so i would like to revisit the MM discussion.

I think this is for the best. I'm not leaning toward Vomps at all (although he'd make a natural independent).

Who survived? I am not Adverse to discussing MM, but am inclined to think he's most likely civ.

The reason i think vomps was faking was the first time we have seen true insanification this game.

Read again, Hedgie.

Why the eye, Dom?

I'm still leaning towards MM being civ, so I'm not sure I want to look there. Vomps is one I would consider though. Given the way the lynch went down, I could possibly be wrong about him. Not to mention that once he was un-insanified, he didn't bother explaining his vote for INH. Or any of his other posts for that matter.

I misremembered something, BWT. Sorry!

[Vompatti]

Why the eye, Dom?

I'm still leaning towards MM being civ, so I'm not sure I want to look there. Vomps is one I would consider though. Given the way the lynch went down, I could possibly be wrong about him. Not to mention that once he was un-insanified, he didn't bother explaining his vote for INH. Or any of his other posts for that matter.

Yes, but as we saw with epig, just because Vomps failed to explain his vote doesn't make him necessarily bad.

Good point. But if he's not going to explain it, then what do you make of his vote? Because I think it's either 1) nonsensical, 2) has a hidden agenda, 3) is info-related. Those are the only possibilities I see here.

@Vomps: Are you still reading the thread or not?

Most definitely not.

[Mongoose]

Why the eye, Dom?

I'm still leaning towards MM being civ, so I'm not sure I want to look there. Vomps is one I would consider though. Given the way the lynch went down, I could possibly be wrong about him. Not to mention that once he was un-insanified, he didn't bother explaining his vote for INH. Or any of his other posts for that matter.

Yes, but as we saw with epig, just because Vomps failed to explain his vote doesn't make him necessarily bad.

Good point. But if he's not going to explain it, then what do you make of his vote? Because I think it's either 1) nonsensical, 2) has a hidden agenda, 3) is info-related. Those are the only possibilities I see here.

@Vomps: Are you still reading the thread or not?

Most definitely not.

Will you come back and play with us please, sug?

[Vompatti]

Why the eye, Dom?

I'm still leaning towards MM being civ, so I'm not sure I want to look there. Vomps is one I would consider though. Given the way the lynch went down, I could possibly be wrong about him. Not to mention that once he was un-insanified, he didn't bother explaining his vote for INH. Or any of his other posts for that matter.

Yes, but as we saw with epig, just because Vomps failed to explain his vote doesn't make him necessarily bad.

Good point. But if he's not going to explain it, then what do you make of his vote? Because I think it's either 1) nonsensical, 2) has a hidden agenda, 3) is info-related. Those are the only possibilities I see here.

@Vomps: Are you still reading the thread or not?

Most definitely not.

Will you come back and play with us please, sug?

k

[S~V~S]

That makes me want to ote MM again tomorrow, tbh. We have another lynch survivor, so i would like to revisit the MM discussion.

I think this is for the best. I'm not leaning toward Vomps at all (although he'd make a natural independent).

Who survived? I am not Adverse to discussing MM, but am inclined to think he's most likely civ.

The reason i think vomps was faking was the first time we have seen true insanification this game.

It looked fairly true to me, and we have 2 hex/potion people in this game, perhaps they insanify via different methods. I have seen probably half a dozen different insanifiers. Vomps looked like one I have seen before, so I am not sure what you mean by "true" insanification.

And I was on phone, I did not realize it was a tie, I thought INH had less votes. Tomorrow i am going to vote BWT again, or Vomps. And :P at MP, you pushed me to make a decision, then did not show up, lol. I could have voted closer to the end than I did, and I would have voted Vomp to save INH.

[Tangrowth]

That makes me want to ote MM again tomorrow, tbh. We have another lynch survivor, so i would like to revisit the MM discussion.

I think this is for the best. I'm not leaning toward Vomps at all (although he'd make a natural independent).

Who survived? I am not Adverse to discussing MM, but am inclined to think he's most likely civ.

The reason i think vomps was faking was the first time we have seen true insanification this game.

It looked fairly true to me, and we have 2 hex/potion people in this game, perhaps they insanify via different methods. I have seen probably half a dozen different insanifiers. Vomps looked like one I have seen before, so I am not sure what you mean by "true" insanification.

And I was on phone, I did not realize it was a tie, I thought INH had less votes. Tomorrow i am going to vote BWT again, or Vomps. And :P at MP, you pushed me to make a decision, then did not show up, lol. I could have voted closer to the end than I did, and I would have voted Vomp to save INH.

I'm so sorry about that, lol, I got caught up dealing with Fight Club and then realized I had barely missed the deadline here. Fail!

[Hedgeowl]

That makes me want to ote MM again tomorrow, tbh. We have another lynch survivor, so i would like to revisit the MM discussion.

I think this is for the best. I'm not leaning toward Vomps at all (although he'd make a natural independent).

Who survived? I am not Adverse to discussing MM, but am inclined to think he's most likely civ.

The reason i think vomps was faking was the first time we have seen true insanification this game.

It looked fairly true to me, and we have 2 hex/potion people in this game, perhaps they insanify via different methods. I have seen probably half a dozen different insanifiers. Vomps looked like one I have seen before, so I am not sure what you mean by "true" insanification.

And I was on phone, I did not realize it was a tie, I thought INH had less votes. Tomorrow i am going to vote BWT again, or Vomps. And :P at MP, you pushed me to make a decision, then did not show up, lol. I could have voted closer to the end than I did, and I would have voted Vomp to save INH.

Ok, I see the other possible insanifier role now. I think Vomps is using a "real" insanifier, but had thought he was faking it. I am not as sure now. Granted he posted so much while insanified and now nada.

[Vompatti]

That makes me want to ote MM again tomorrow, tbh. We have another lynch survivor, so i would like to revisit the MM discussion.

I think this is for the best. I'm not leaning toward Vomps at all (although he'd make a natural independent).

Who survived? I am not Adverse to discussing MM, but am inclined to think he's most likely civ.

The reason i think vomps was faking was the first time we have seen true insanification this game.

It looked fairly true to me, and we have 2 hex/potion people in this game, perhaps they insanify via different methods. I have seen probably half a dozen different insanifiers. Vomps looked like one I have seen before, so I am not sure what you mean by "true" insanification.

And I was on phone, I did not realize it was a tie, I thought INH had less votes. Tomorrow i am going to vote BWT again, or Vomps. And :P at MP, you pushed me to make a decision, then did not show up, lol. I could have voted closer to the end than I did, and I would have voted Vomp to save INH.

Ok, I see the other possible insanifier role now. I think Vomps is using a "real" insanifier, but had thought he was faking it. I am not as sure now. Granted he posted so much while insanified and now nada.

I don't know if it's relevant but I've never been insanified before and probably couldn't even have found the insanifier on the interwebz on my own had I wanted to fake it.

[birdwithteeth11]

Knowing Vomps, I think being insanified would actually spur him to post more often/frequently, compared to being able to talk normally.

Also, if he's being truthful and he's not reading the thread, that will make me more hesitant to vote for him. Because he's been lynched before for not reading, and I can't think of a time he's come up a baddie when doing that.

Linki: Ture. Like SVS, I've only ever seen about 5-6 insanifiers, and it's not really the kind of thing you can find by Googling key words. But I do think you being insanified would make you more likely to post.

[Vompatti]

By the way, I wonder who might have found it beneficial and/or entertaining to insanify me?

[birdwithteeth11]

By the way, I wonder who might have found it beneficial and/or entertaining to insanify me?

I would, butt not for nefariosuris reasons k.

Also, I didn't insanify you either.

[thellama73]

It's starting to look like I may not be here at six. Anyone object to me ending the night a little early?

[birdwithteeth11]

I would be okay with it, assuming you have all the PMs. I think that's the only way it would be fair.

[Vompatti]

ture

[Mongoose]

I think ending early sounds wonderful.

[thellama73]

EVOCATION/INVOCATION

Evocation and invocation both refer to the communication with beings from other planes of existence for the purposes of communication, and sometimes to command them to do the mage’s bidding. Most commonly, these are what are commonly known as gods, angels, or demons (the gods of one religious tradition typically become the demons of the next.)

Evocation involves summoning the being in its own form, from within a protection magic circle. Invocation involves the mage’s own body serving as a conduit for the spiritual entity, similar to the spiritualistic practices of 19th century mediums. This is not to be confused with possession, however.

Invocation is general more dangerous than evocation, due to the necessity of letting the spirit inside one’s own body, although both carry a considerable amount of risk. Aleister Crowley, an extremely capable magician, even came close to death after losing control of an evoked spirit. Reportedly he was never quite the same afterwards.

Evocation is most commonly performed with the aid of a magic mirror, pictured above, consisting of a triangle inscribed with various occult formulae and a polished disc of onyx or other reflective black material. The operator gazes into the mirror while reciting the necessary incantations and the summoned entity becomes visible therein.

The study of Goetic magic deals with controlling summoned entities and convincing or coercing them to do the will of the mage. Since beings from other planes share very little in common with human thoughts, emotions, and morals, it is always risky dealing with them unless you have a very good command of the spells necessary to protect yourself and banish the spirit back from whence it came. However, when successfully employed, Goetic magic is among the most powerful there is.

The Sacred Book of Abramelin the Mage deals extensively with this topic, and describes a wide variety of remarkable effects produced by its successful application.

END LECTURE

Eliphas Levi queries the Tarot: “What do the fates think of Vompatti?”
He reverently turns up a card:

”Well, that’s interesting.”

Hedgeowl has been killed by Abramelin the Mage.
You have 24 hours to lynch someone.

[Mongoose]

I reread MM during my catchup and analysis portion of the program and I'm not inclined to really concentrate there today.

[birdwithteeth11]

RIP Hedgeowl!

I reread MM during my catchup and analysis portion of the program and I'm not inclined to really concentrate there today.

Yeah, I'm just not seeing the case on him either. I might read back and see what Hedgeowl was thinking or who she was looking at, because I can't think of anyone who would have wanted her dead.

[birdwithteeth11]

Also, what do others makes of the tarot reading on Vomps? Because it definitely doesn't make me feel good, but I'm not sure if it's in a "Vomps is bad" way or "something terrible is going to happen to Vomps" way.

[Tangrowth]

RIP Hedge!

I'm not sure what the Tarot card reading means at all. Lol.

[birdwithteeth11]

RIP Hedge!

I'm not sure what the Tarot card reading means at all. Lol.

Me neither. Honestly, it reminds me of roles where that person gets to post their thoughts in the thread. It's usually bad to take it as gospel, so I might look into it a bit, but it probably won't change my opinion of Vomps that much.

[Vompatti]

I would generally interpret that card as some kind of a profound transformation or purification, but in the context of this game I must point out that in the tree of life Death is on the path between Netzah and Tifaret, which speaks strongly for the theory that if I survive the next lynch and/or night kill attempt, I will gloriously lead us into victory!

[Hedgeowl]

*sniff sniff*

[Dom]

BWT, do you have anything other than just this Tarot post about Vomps?

[S~V~S]

I would generally interpret that card as some kind of a profound transformation or purification, but in the context of this game I must point out that in the tree of life Death is on the path between Netzah and Tifaret, which speaks strongly for the theory that if I survive the next lynch and/or night kill attempt, I will gloriously lead us into victory!

This sounds like someone who is getting more and more powerful via surviving

[Vompatti]

I would generally interpret that card as some kind of a profound transformation or purification, but in the context of this game I must point out that in the tree of life Death is on the path between Netzah and Tifaret, which speaks strongly for the theory that if I survive the next lynch and/or night kill attempt, I will gloriously lead us into victory!

This sounds like someone who is getting more and more powerful via surviving

That makes me wonder what the *secrets* of the Abramelin role are. Could it be a recruit/absorption type thing?

[Mongoose]

I would generally interpret that card as some kind of a profound transformation or purification, but in the context of this game I must point out that in the tree of life Death is on the path between Netzah and Tifaret, which speaks strongly for the theory that if I survive the next lynch and/or night kill attempt, I will gloriously lead us into victory!

This sounds like someone who is getting more and more powerful via surviving

That makes me wonder what the *secrets* of the Abramelin role are. Could it be a recruit/absorption type thing?

If so, I'm really pi$$ed I've not been recruited. What does Abramelin have against furry ferret-type beasts?

[Vompatti]

I would generally interpret that card as some kind of a profound transformation or purification, but in the context of this game I must point out that in the tree of life Death is on the path between Netzah and Tifaret, which speaks strongly for the theory that if I survive the next lynch and/or night kill attempt, I will gloriously lead us into victory!

This sounds like someone who is getting more and more powerful via surviving

That makes me wonder what the *secrets* of the Abramelin role are. Could it be a recruit/absorption type thing?

If so, I'm really pi$$ed I've not been recruited. What does Abramelin have against furry ferret-type beasts?

I wouldn't mind recruiting you if you know what I mean.

[Marmot]

[Tangrowth]

Okay guys, so who are we voting today?

I'm not feeling MM, Vomps, or S~V~S too much, so for me it's between the rest. I intended on voting BWT yesterday, so I might do that today. What is everyone thinking? I feel we're still in a crapshoot phase, which sucks.

[Marmot]

I'm probably going to go with vomps. If we can get some conversation going, I'm open to discuss other players too.

What are your thoughts on this post from vomps on Day 5, MP?

I'm voting MM like I did last time, but I'm also keeping an eye on INH for reasons not stated in this post.

Also, SVS, could you please answer this question? I still don't know what you meant here. You may have answered it already, but I'm not certain if you did.

That makes me want to ote MM again tomorrow, tbh. We have another lynch survivor, so i would like to revisit the MM discussion.

What? I'm the only one who's survived a lynch.

[Tangrowth]

Seems like silly regular Vomps to me.

Maybe I've just grown way too accustomed to his seemingly random, unexplained accusations.

I mean, he could be independent as much as anyone else, i guess. I'm just not feeling it.

[Marmot]

[Marmot]

Seems like no one wants to discuss.

I went ahead and vote for vompatti.

[Vompatti]

tfw wtf

[Vompatti]

Seems like no one wants to discuss.

I went ahead and vote for vompatti.

Did you notice Dom's drive-by vote and how do you feel about it?

[thellama73]

Less than an hour and a half till the poll closes. Don't forget, people!