Occultism Mafia - THE END

[Hedgeowl]

SVS - ask Dom how he remembers so clearly.

4 And it came to pass that the Tilded One spake ignorance of the goings and comings of the Hedgeowl, even though, on the Third Day of WWE (cf., The Twenty-third of December in the Year of our Lord 2013), the Hedgeowl announced its intentions to search for evil among those who had oft spoken.

5 And in those days, the Tilded One had walked in the ways of evil (cf., The Fifteenth of December, in the Year of our Lord 2013, being a strong and mighty Big Show, working for the worshipers of Mammon.

^ whs

Also, while I think Epi has a great read on Elo in many games, I would be real impressed if he felt this early on that he could already tell.

[nijuukyugou]

4 And it came to pass that the Tilded One spake ignorance of the goings and comings of the Hedgeowl, even though, on the Third Day of WWE (cf., The Twenty-third of December in the Year of our Lord 2013), the Hedgeowl announced its intentions to search for evil among those who had oft spoken.

5 And in those days, the Tilded One had walked in the ways of evil (cf., The Fifteenth of December, in the Year of our Lord 2013, being a strong and mighty Big Show, working for the worshipers of Mammon.

I feel like I'm at Mass. A much more amusing Mass that involves killing. Preacher Epi, why has our Lord and Savior suddenly enlightened you with this elevated speech, out of curiosity? It amuses and intrigues me so.

Also Great and Powerful Host, I just got Epi's first post about me. I am, in fact, a Lady Blooper

[Epignosis]

6 What speak you of a savior, when I spake only of a Lord? For our Lord is cruel and punishes those who walk in the paths of unrighteousness, stringing such a one up by his neck until the body be dead, dead, dead and then returning it to the red clay from whence it was drawn.

[S~V~S]

4 And it came to pass that the Tilded One spake ignorance of the goings and comings of the Hedgeowl, even though, on the Third Day of WWE (cf., The Twenty-third of December in the Year of our Lord 2013), the Hedgeowl announced its intentions to search for evil among those who had oft spoken.

5 And in those days, the Tilded One had walked in the ways of evil (cf., The Fifteenth of December, in the Year of our Lord 2013, being a strong and mighty Big Show, working for the worshipers of Mammon.

I don't spend a lot of brain cells remembering everything everyone else does in a game if it does not impact me much. And that obviously did not. Unless I directly engage them, I don't carry baggage from game to game. Everyone evolves.

Was the person she killed via her high poster theory on my team?

And I believe badness/civvieness is to be determined by content, not post count. So I distrust anyone who bases votes on that alone. Pretty much always, and I can say this with firm conviction and without need of *not this game* linkis.

[S~V~S]

Also, I was having too much fun in that game sitting in a chatroom with Bass howling over some of the antics of the civvies.

That is what I mainly recall from that game. That and me & MP getting pissy with each other over distancing.

[nijuukyugou]

6 What speak you of a savior, when I spake only of a Lord? For our Lord is cruel and punishes those who walk in the paths of unrighteousness, stringing such a one up by his neck until the body be dead, dead, dead and then returning it to the red clay from whence it was drawn.

Good ol' Old Testament!

[Mongoose]

I need to vote soon as well because I don't get up until 10, since I work late. I'm not inclined to vote Vomps, since he's active and contributing and I want to reward good behavior.

Gonna mull this over a bit and hope someone else posts.

[S~V~S]

I have to agree re Vomps, I will read back before work, and see who posted actual content, and who did not. I will probably vote based on that.

Other than Hedgie, did anyone actually recommend a Vomps vote?

[nijuukyugou]

I also don't want to vote for someone based on number of posts, but for their content. Unfortunately, upon re-reading the thread, there isn't much content to work with. Such is the course of Day 1, I suppose.

@S~V~S Not that I saw. It seems the people who actually responded to her did not want to swing that way vote-wise.

[Epignosis]

7 MovingPictures07 was on a journey to the temple, as was his custom. A shepherd observed him, saying "Traveler, the means of sending forth your seed has been severed."

[Mongoose]

I have to agree re Vomps, I will read back before work, and see who posted actual content, and who did not. I will probably vote based on that.

Other than Hedgie, did anyone actually recommend a Vomps vote?

I did a re-skim and I don't see anything of that nature.

[Mongoose]

I wonder, if divination had won out, could we have divined who the baddies are?

Grasping at straws. And just so I can beat Lizzy to the punch before she accuses me of trumped up nonsense ( ), I will admit this is not the most salient case. Hells bells, it's not even a case, but it's above random voting.

ANYWAY

Verbose mongoose is verbose

I feel like this could be Nutty trying to throw suspicion off of her own trail. Like trying to distance herself from baddies. Perhaps. Our host Jeffrey Llamer would never let it so easily be discerned.

This is a terrible case and I strongly suggest you vote elsewhere. It's Day 1 and it's all I got so far. This is the most ridiculous, overblown pseudo-case made from one statement on Day 1 ever, but I promised myself I'd not be a space cadet in this game.

Let's roll.

LA

[Epignosis]

8 It is a sign! The form of the chosen now lies in an "E," indicating the Knowledge-Seeker. Let it be known.

[thellama73]

7 MovingPictures07 was on a journey to the temple, as was his custom. A shepherd observed him, saying "Traveler, the means of sending forth your seed has been severed."

Fixed, as has been Blooper, o sage one.

Also, if the poll time is a problem for people, let me know and I can push it back towards evening. I just started it early because I was eager and had some downtime at work.

[nutella]

Have to vote now, don't really have any good ideas. Hedge's thing about voting for the top poster seems weird, not necessarily suspicious but it's all I can think of so I'm voting for her

[nijuukyugou]

I'd like to go to bed, and I definitely won't be up before the poll ends (I've managed to get my sleep schedule nice and night-owly for the summer. Hooray!). I don't have any strong feelings for anyone in particular at the moment, but I'm *intrigued* by Epi's posting style so far, and a bit confused as to his lynch vote choice (perhaps I am not able to decipher his last posting?). Part of me wants to say that posting like he is is far too obvious for a baddie so early in the game, but the other part of me says not to ignore it. Not the greatest reason, but it's a reason, and I don't feel like randomizing.

Sleep time!

[Vompatti]

I am so confused reading all the comments above that I don’t feel any of the comments are of any use! I came on this site to find out the best solution to clean a laminate floor and everyone here has an opinion but nobody seems to agree! I guess that I better check out another site.

[S~V~S]

Why did Epi vote Lizzy? Tedious self imposed curse is tedious~ he has quoted and made some fairly clear remarks, not sure why he could not do so here.

I am hoping to get an understandable (non pseudo Biblicalish) explanation for this. I am not holding my breath My other possible vote is Nutella, but i always tend to read her as opportunistic & sinister (what I find a Hedgie vote to be after it has been pointed out that she has done this high poster biz previously as a civ, which doesn't not mean she is one now, but DOES mean that it is not necessarily a baddie way to make a non accountable vote on Hedgies part) BUT BUT I almost ALWAYS tend to misread LA as being bad whether she is or not, and would hate to do so on Day One.

So leaning towards an Epi vote, but not enough that I need to vote yet. His non explanation for his Lizzy vote, and his trying to make me look icky for a non game related reason (me not recalling something that happened in another game I played, but that had no effect on me) both kinda got my eye. All the other eye getters only got my eye once, he got 2 eyes.

When I DO vote it will be from work on phone, so it is likely to be a not much said vote~ vote now, explain later.

[Tangrowth]

I don't like Epi's unexplained vote for Lizzy, so I'm throwing a vote there.

Plus, yay ties.

7 MovingPictures07 was on a journey to the temple, as was his custom. A shepherd observed him, saying "Traveler, the means of sending forth your seed has been severed."

Also, LMAO

[Elohcin]

7 MovingPictures07 was on a journey to the temple, as was his custom. A shepherd observed him, saying "Traveler, the means of sending forth your seed has been severed."

Maybe Epi voted Lizzy to subtly say that he thinks I am civvie this game. He would be right.

[Vompatti]

I'd rather not vote Epi because I've been enjoying his posts so far, but if I choose to be rational that's probably where my vote will go.

[Boogs]

I start work in 30 mins so I'm going to randomize and vote for A Person.

[insertnamehere]

Randomized and got Niju.

[S~V~S]

7 MovingPictures07 was on a journey to the temple, as was his custom. A shepherd observed him, saying "Traveler, the means of sending forth your seed has been severed."

Maybe Epi voted Lizzy to subtly say that he thinks I am civvie this game. He would be right.

But you randomized. How would following a random vote because he trusts you make him civ? If anything it looks like him kissing up to you.

You convinced me.

*voting Epi*

[Epignosis]

9 Beware false shepherds! Beware those who clamor for reasons on the first Day but speak with a weak tongue themselves. Beware those who accuse others of false reasoning but condemn those who speak with righteousness.

[A Person]

I'd rather not vote Epi because I've been enjoying his posts so far, but if I choose to be rational that's probably where my vote will go.

That is why I'm voting Epi, I'm not sure what else to do

[Vompatti]

I guess I'm *voting Epi* since I'm not particularly suspicious of anyone else.

[Hedgeowl]

Sticking with my top posters theory for now. Looks like SVS has taken the lead.

[thellama73]

Star Search

You’re a star! the group said to Epignosis. And by “star” we mean, the one who is going to be lynched.

Epignosis has been lynched he was S. L. MacGregor Mathers

And speaking of stars, astrology has always had a close association with occultism. The doctrine handed down from the Emerald Tablet of Hermes Trismegistus that forms the basis of all Hermeticism is “as above, so below,” meaning that the structure of the universe is mirrored in the human body, and that the two can affect one another.

The movements of stars and planets was believed, not only to influence personality, but to determine all sorts of useful information, such as the ideal time to perform a particular spell or rite. Thus, a working knowledge of astrology is indispensable to any occultist who wishes to be effective.

Look at the star field above and, using rudimentary image editing software, draw a line connecting the dots in an entertaining way to form a constellation. Title your discovery and post it in the thread. The one I like best gets a prize.

You have 24 hours to send in your night actions and submit an entry to the astrology contest.

[Epignosis]

11 At the end of the first Day, the heavens opened and fire consumed the earth. And there came a voice from the clouds, the voice of our Lord God Free.

Let it be known.

[Elohcin]

7 MovingPictures07 was on a journey to the temple, as was his custom. A shepherd observed him, saying "Traveler, the means of sending forth your seed has been severed."

Maybe Epi voted Lizzy to subtly say that he thinks I am civvie this game. He would be right.

But you randomized. How would following a random vote because he trusts you make him civ? If anything it looks like him kissing up to you.

You convinced me.

*voting Epi*

I didn't say he did it because he trusted my randomized vote. I said he may voted my way to subtly show he thought I was civ. Really it was mostly a joke though anyway b/c you all were talking (again) about how he is so good at reading me.

Still, I am unsure of why everyone voted for Epi b/c he was having fun with the theme of the game. That sounds like a lame excuse to be suspicious of someone. I have my eye on Epi voters.

[S~V~S]

I voted for him because he voted for Lizzy for no reason.

[Vompatti]

I voted for him because he voted for Lizzy for no reason.

Same.

[Vompatti]

Here is my contribution. I'm calling it "The Nervous Horse of Mendes":

[Tangrowth]

RIP Epig.

7 MovingPictures07 was on a journey to the temple, as was his custom. A shepherd observed him, saying "Traveler, the means of sending forth your seed has been severed."

Maybe Epi voted Lizzy to subtly say that he thinks I am civvie this game. He would be right.

But you randomized. How would following a random vote because he trusts you make him civ? If anything it looks like him kissing up to you.

You convinced me.

*voting Epi*

I didn't say he did it because he trusted my randomized vote. I said he may voted my way to subtly show he thought I was civ. Really it was mostly a joke though anyway b/c you all were talking (again) about how he is so good at reading me.

Still, I am unsure of why everyone voted for Epi b/c he was having fun with the theme of the game. That sounds like a lame excuse to be suspicious of someone. I have my eye on Epi voters.

I'm not sure why you think everyone voted him for that reason; I personally did not, and it seems Vomps and SVS did not either.

I was actually incredibly entertained by his posting and I hated to vote him for it, but he never even stated any reason why he voted for Lizzy, and considering she already had one vote cast upon her before that, it struck me as suspicious. Also, I thought a tie would be cool. But then other people voted for Epig and it was no longer a tie. (But that didn't really matter, it's really just me being silly, the real reason is his vote).

I was wrong, but I think it's silly to fixate on "Epig voters" any more than it is to fixate on voters who randomized.

Sure, there could be a baddie or even both among the Epig voters, but one is not me, and I think it's silly to set ourselves up for possibly a second civvie lynch already by concentrating on Epig voters when we really don't have any better evidence of any of them being bad than anyone else at this point, no? There's hardly been anything to base suspicions off of thus far.

Personally, I'm getting sincere vibes from S~V~S, I think Blooper's vote being cast first seemed genuine, Vompatti seems like he's actually enjoying this game and I don't have any reason to believe he's bad yet, so that leaves AP. So if any of the Epig voters are bad at this point, I'd be willing to look at AP, but not really any more closely than any of the voters who threw away their votes today. In fact, I'm a bit more apt to look that way, if anything.

[Tangrowth]

I should clarify: I'm a bit more apt to look that way (at non-Epig voters) because I don't have as solid reads on any of them right now, and I believe they could have avoided responsibility for their votes.

That's not to say Epig voters can't be bad, and I'm willing to consider it, but none of the votes struck me as that opportunistic, really.

I don't know what kind of civilian votes for someone on D1 and never explains his vote, but that's what Epig did, and the things that civilians (including myself :P) sometimes do never cease to amaze me.

[Dom]

Why did Epi vote Lizzy? Tedious self imposed curse is tedious~ he has quoted and made some fairly clear remarks, not sure why he could not do so here.

I am hoping to get an understandable (non pseudo Biblicalish) explanation for this. I am not holding my breath My other possible vote is Nutella, but i always tend to read her as opportunistic & sinister (what I find a Hedgie vote to be after it has been pointed out that she has done this high poster biz previously as a civ, which doesn't not mean she is one now, but DOES mean that it is not necessarily a baddie way to make a non accountable vote on Hedgies part) BUT BUT I almost ALWAYS tend to misread LA as being bad whether she is or not, and would hate to do so on Day One.

So leaning towards an Epi vote, but not enough that I need to vote yet. His non explanation for his Lizzy vote, and his trying to make me look icky for a non game related reason (me not recalling something that happened in another game I played, but that had no effect on me) both kinda got my eye. All the other eye getters only got my eye once, he got 2 eyes.

When I DO vote it will be from work on phone, so it is likely to be a not much said vote~ vote now, explain later.

Sherry, do you often misread Mr. Gnosis?

I should clarify: I'm a bit more apt to look that way (at non-Epig voters) because I don't have as solid reads on any of them right now, and I believe they could have avoided responsibility for their votes.

That's not to say Epig voters can't be bad, and I'm willing to consider it, but none of the votes struck me as that opportunistic, really.

I don't know what kind of civilian votes for someone on D1 and never explains his vote, but that's what Epig did, and the things that civilians (including myself :P) sometimes do never cease to amaze me.

Civvies never make votes without reasons?
and here I was thinking Elohcin and INH's votes had reasoning behind them.





Sorry I missed the vote. I am very ill and went to the doctor unexpectedly.
I would have voted Boogs.

[nutella]

RIP Epi.

[Elohcin]

I should clarify: I'm a bit more apt to look that way (at non-Epig voters) because I don't have as solid reads on any of them right now, and I believe they could have avoided responsibility for their votes.

That's not to say Epig voters can't be bad, and I'm willing to consider it, but none of the votes struck me as that opportunistic, really.

I don't know what kind of civilian votes for someone on D1 and never explains his vote, but that's what Epig did, and the things that civilians (including myself :P) sometimes do never cease to amaze me.

Sorry, I guess I misunderstood why you all were voting him then. You are right though...I didn't see an explanation for his vote. I agree that I wouldn't think a civvie would vote without explanation but then again I wouldn't think a baddie would either.

[nutella]

here's my constellation it's called "zombies rise from the sea"

[nijuukyugou]

Damn. RIP Epi. Your posts entertained me so, but they stood out to me more than anything on Day 1, and the unexplained vote for Lizzy struck me as odd. But I already explained that in my vote choice, and I was unfortunately wrong.

While I don't have any strong leads, I suspect there may be a baddie either among those who voted Epi after me, or in those that randomized. I (of course) don't blame a Civ (or two, or three) for seeing him as suspicious, but I could see a baddie being opportunistic and blending in with the Epi lynch. I can also see a baddie hiding behind a "randomized" vote so as not to draw attention to themselves on Day 1. Those are places I'll likely be looking today. I still wonder why Epi chose to speak biblically? I'm probably overthinking it and Eloh is right about him getting into character for the game. Wouldn't put it past him :P

Also, where is the lovely Keterman? Dom and Lizzy said why they didn't vote, but Keterman disappeared after Day 0.

Side note: nutella, your avatar makes me hungry every time I see it. Mint chocolate chip is my favorite flavor in the world

[Elohcin]

I call it "The Skystache"

[Mongoose]

Here is my submission.

It is a snail.

Weee. Love me.

[nijuukyugou]

Look, in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's The Narcissist!



(AKA I found a Bloop)

[Tangrowth]

I should clarify: I'm a bit more apt to look that way (at non-Epig voters) because I don't have as solid reads on any of them right now, and I believe they could have avoided responsibility for their votes.

That's not to say Epig voters can't be bad, and I'm willing to consider it, but none of the votes struck me as that opportunistic, really.

I don't know what kind of civilian votes for someone on D1 and never explains his vote, but that's what Epig did, and the things that civilians (including myself :P) sometimes do never cease to amaze me.

Civvies never make votes without reasons?
and here I was thinking Elohcin and INH's votes had reasoning behind them.

I should clarify: I'm a bit more apt to look that way (at non-Epig voters) because I don't have as solid reads on any of them right now, and I believe they could have avoided responsibility for their votes.

That's not to say Epig voters can't be bad, and I'm willing to consider it, but none of the votes struck me as that opportunistic, really.

I don't know what kind of civilian votes for someone on D1 and never explains his vote, but that's what Epig did, and the things that civilians (including myself :P) sometimes do never cease to amaze me.

Sorry, I guess I misunderstood why you all were voting him then. You are right though...I didn't see an explanation for his vote. I agree that I wouldn't think a civvie would vote without explanation but then again I wouldn't think a baddie would either.

Fair points. It would be a poor (especially on reflection, since he died) strategy for a baddie to take. I don't really think my reasoning for voting him was that strong, but I didn't think to vote anyone else as more likely bad.

And Dom, why Boogs?

[Dom]

Because of his fixation with Epig's opinion of Elo

[Boogs]

Sorry guys. Had a lot going on after work today and just now got home with Corsair. Rip Epignosis :/

I do think it's worth a look at some Epignosis voters without sound reason for doing it. I'm honestly surprised he got 5 votes myself.

And Dom I wasn't fixated in the least or I would have tried to get people to vote for Elohcin. I think it's weird you are fixated on me for a Day 0 comment, myself. But, it's just you being you I guess.

[Tangrowth]

I do think it's worth a look at some Epignosis voters without sound reason for doing it. I'm honestly surprised he got 5 votes myself.

I would be interested if you interpret any to be the case.

[Boogs]

I'd rather not vote Epi because I've been enjoying his posts so far, but if I choose to be rational that's probably where my vote will go.

That is why I'm voting Epi, I'm not sure what else to do

Mp- Those two votes (Vomps and A Person) didn't really make sense. Like I totally get Day 1 is a crap shoot but Vomps said it was rational to vote him. How so?
And A Person voted Epignosis in accordance with a quote from Vomps and saying he isn't sure what else to do. Just seemed like an easy way out on that Epignosis train.

But I have to consider not all votes were in it looked like also. But we have not much to go on beside the vote record and content so far which isn't much posting.

[Vompatti]

I'd rather not vote Epi because I've been enjoying his posts so far, but if I choose to be rational that's probably where my vote will go.

That is why I'm voting Epi, I'm not sure what else to do

Mp- Those two votes (Vomps and A Person) didn't really make sense. Like I totally get Day 1 is a crap shoot but Vomps said it was rational to vote him. How so?
And A Person voted Epignosis in accordance with a quote from Vomps and saying he isn't sure what else to do. Just seemed like an easy way out on that Epignosis train.

But I have to consider not all votes were in it looked like also. But we have not much to go on beside the vote record and content so far which isn't much posting.

It was rational because he voted for Lizzy for no reason, which was pretty much the only suspicious thing that had happened in the game by that time.