[END] Pikmin Mafia

#1121

Spacedaisy wrote:Looking at this poll I'm concerned. I'm thinking this is one of two scenarios and neither one bodes well for us. Either one of us who has 1 vote is bad and there are baddies trying to vote Boom to ensure their teammate is safe or all of us getting votes right now are civ. I really don't feel baddie vibes from any of these lynch candidates and I know I'm not bad.

I feel more confident in Boom's innocence than Epi's I guess. I am voting Epi.

This is a tough lynch. Ugh.

You just said that you don't think Epi/MM/FZ are bad, but did not mention Boomslang. What made you more comfortable voting Epi over Boomslang in that short period of time?

#1122

I don't think Boom is bad either. I feel most confident tha FZ is civ. I feel least confident that Epi is. Boom's post read like natural frustration with Epi to me, I don't see baddie intent in his posts.

#1123

Spacedaisy wrote:I don't think Epi is bad. I don't think MM is bad.i don't think FZ is bad. who is even still alive right now? I need to read through...

Spacedaisy wrote:I feel more confident in Boom's innocence than Epi's I guess. I am voting Epi.

I think a lot of the conflict that happened in the Wild West could’ve been avoided had architects in those days just made their towns big enough for everyone.

#1124

Looking forward to hearing why you think I should be on the chopping block SD.

#1125

I honestly don't think any of the three are bad. I think the fact Simon has fallen off the face of the Pikmin planet makes me think he is trying to avoid making any more mistakes that might endanger his team.

Typhoony, you laid low most of the game and now you are swinging for the fences it seems. I think you are bad and you are playing for end game now that we've decimated each other.

You two would be my top two choices to lynch, gleam would be third.

#1126

I look forward to hearing why you think I should be on the chopping block after you've read the thread.

#1127

DAY 5

Poll ended at Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:11:46 pm

agleaminranks
0
No votes

Boomslang
5
Epignosis (4), Metalmarsh89 (6), FZ. (9), Typhoony (10), Simon (13) 36%

DrWilgy
0
No votes

Epignosis
2
Boomslang (12), Spacedaisy (14) 14%

FZ.
1
DrWilgy (11) 7%

Metalmarsh89
0
No votes

Simon
0
No votes

Spacedaisy
1
agleaminranks (8) 7%

Typhoony
0
No votes

Pikmin haters! (host, deadies, non-players)
5
MovingPictures07 (1), Turnip Head (2), Dragon D. Luffy (3), TheFloyd73 (5), kneel4justice (7) 36%

Total votes : 14

#1128

Day 5

Boomslang has been lynched. He was:

Spoiler: show

Day 5 has ended.

It is now Night 5. You have 24 hours to send in your Night PMs.

#1129

Yeah, that's about what I expected.

#1130

I give up.

#1131

Look at his interaction with Epi after a rock pikmin was targeted. I think this lynch was a move to get rid of someone they can't kill and at least one or two baddies can be found in that lynch train.

#1132

I read that interaction as Epi being the Rock Pikmin and Boomslang trying to get rid of someone they can't kill.

... Oops?

#1133

You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It helps if you have some kind of football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer.

#1134

Christmas is almost upon us, but tragedy has struck.

Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer died today. His body was found about 50 miles outside of Barcelona, as a result of a midair collision.

Santa Claus gave us a brief account of the incident. Mr. Claus stated that he was going over his annual delivery route when the incident. He admitted to be texting his wife at home, when his sleigh simultaneously collided with a giant flock of storks and a Boeing 737-400.

As another eye-witness reported, the reindeer in Spain was hit mainly by the plane.

#1135

Sorry Boomslang. With the time limit I had, wanting to go to sleep, and not enough people to converse, I just trusted others' feelings instead of mine. No excuse (other than I felt my intuition sucked this game).

DrWilgy wrote:I'm sorry everyone. I ended up being still busy. FZ, I've stated that I'm busy multiple times, yet I'm suspish because I can't match the same tempo Ive played at previous?

It's gotten to the point where I'm begining to see it as opportunism. Typhoony's response to my absence makes alot more sense when compared to yours.

"I'd like to see more out of this player" is alot genuine than "Where is he? Suspish-land."

I guess based on that I'd like to vote FZ... But I Dont know the cases on anyone else.

Are you kidding me?? I've talked about you all game, but never pushed for your lynch. I said a lot of people were suspicious of you and that it made me hesitate because maybe it meant it was the wrong lynch, plus after being wrong about zebra and Matt who I suspected for similar reasons, I wanted to give you the BOTD . I've given you all the time in the world to show your "civiness" and all you can do is come at me for still having you on my suspect list? Do you realize how bad it makes you look?

And just so you know, it has nothing to do with matching the tempo you've played previously, it's about the content. Posts like this are prime example.

#1136

I'm going to echo FZ's sentiments on Wilgy. FZ is reading to me like a frustrated civilian.

I didn't suspect much of Boomslang from what I read, and now seeing his unfortunate lynch and civilian flip makes me question some.

Daisy, no amount of "I'm a civilian" is worth anything in mafia threads as far as I'm concerned, but the rest of your post content gives me a little more assurance as to your situation and position as of late.

I'm now suspicious of Epignosis and Metalmarsh again.

#1137

What happened to make you suspicious of Epi and MM again?

#1138

Night 5

This was the end of DrWilgy. The venomous bat confronted the poor doctor, continuously flapped its wings, creating cloud after cloud of toxic dust too much for the doctor to handle.

Night 5 has ended.

DrWilgy has been killed by Vehemoth Phosbat.

It is now Day 6. You have 24 hours to lynch a boss!

#1139

I want to see people talking today.

At the moment I do not see myself voting for Epi, FZ or MM.

SD and Simon are question marks to me.
I know SD suspects Me/Simon/Agleam in that order basically. I do not know who Simon suspects and it would be lovely if he would tell us.

Agleaminrank is my main suspect.

Worth nothing that it is the first time the Snagret did not kill.

Discuss.

#1140

Why did the Pikmin cross the road?

To lynch a boss.

#1141

agleaminranks wrote:Maybe your memory is going, old timer

Anyways, this is feeling weirdly personal. The notion was that I have seen Epignosis talk and play both inside and outside of Mafia and I recognize his sense of humor, and he's denying that I have any claim to that, so I'm lying and must be bad. Hrm.

My memory is just fine, young man.

It's bizarre to me that you think you have a handle on what I do when I'm bad when you have only one game's experience on that subject, and even then, I got recruited by a civilian, so had to adapt my strategies. Back on PA, I was bad- true, but it was my first online game- an MP game- and I had no idea what I was doing. Also, I have NEVER played on the Piano.

My entire point was that you do not know about what I would do when I am bad, so I found it weird that you went all personal about it, given I had to talk in jokes.

I think you are bad.

#1142

FZ. - I need to know why you trust me, and have done so all game. Your response will matter.

#1143

MM89- Why did you vote for me all this time, and then change your vote to Boomslang?

#1144

Simon, why won't you turn the damn light off in your room when you aren't in it?

#1145

Spacedaisy, why did you vote me?

#1146

Typh, I looked back over your posts and while I wouldn't say I trust you, I feel more suspicious of Simon and gleam.

Epi, I really really did not think Boomslang's post read bad at all. I trust FZ more than probably anyone, if she is bad she has me hoodwinked pretty well, because I just don't think she is. Though I didn't really suspect you all that much of all the options currently with votes you were the one I felt least sure of. Throwing a vote anywhere else was a waste, so I chose you. I have no intention of voting you today unless something drastic happens to change my mind. I would really like to see some other options.

I have heard people bringing up Dr. wilgy, I'll admit he has not registered with me at all, which is worrisome in itself.

#1147

Derp, my husband just laughed at me for not remembering wilgy was dead, which reminds me why I didn't suspect him, I'm pretty sure his death was really bad news for us civs.

#1148

FYI, if this game continues into Day 7, I will be extending that period to 48 hours to accommodate for Christmas.

#1149

9:41 pm est:

Spacedaisy wrote:I have heard people bringing up Dr. wilgy, I'll admit he has not registered with me at all, which is worrisome in itself.

9:43 pm est:

Spacedaisy wrote:Derp, my husband just laughed at me for not remembering wilgy was dead, which reminds me why I didn't suspect him, I'm pretty sure his death was really bad news for us civs.

#1150

Epignosis wrote:9:41 pm est:

Spacedaisy wrote:I have heard people bringing up Dr. wilgy, I'll admit he has not registered with me at all, which is worrisome in itself.
9:43 pm est:

Spacedaisy wrote:Derp, my husband just laughed at me for not remembering wilgy was dead, which reminds me why I didn't suspect him, I'm pretty sure his death was really bad news for us civs.

Not REMEMBERING Wilgy was dead?

#1151

Yes not remembering.

#1152

I don't understand your point. I forgot he was the one killed in the last night post put up. And when I remembered that (sadly only after MP busted up laughing at me) I recalled why I had not weighed in on him or suspected him, and why I thought it particularly bad that he had died.

#1153

Spacedaisy wrote:I don't understand your point. I forgot he was the one killed in the last night post put up. And when I remembered that (sadly only after MP busted up laughing at me) I recalled why I had not weighed in on him or suspected him, and why I thought it particularly bad that he had died.

My point is I suspect you dear. You didn't suspect Boomslang but you voted me?

Please.

You are bad.

#1154

No, I DID NOT suspect you. I have never said I suspected you. Not even once this game. But of all the people who already had votes, you were the one I was least confident of my town read on them. I wasn't going to vote on someone who had no votes, I felt very confident boomslang wasn't bad and the same about FZ, that left you.

I am not bad, and if you are civ Epi, then I recommend you look elsewhere because you don't want to lynch me. If you are bad then by all means pursue a Daisy lynch, I just hope no one is foolhardy enough to follow you.

#1155

Epignosis wrote:
agleaminranks wrote:Maybe your memory is going, old timer

Anyways, this is feeling weirdly personal. The notion was that I have seen Epignosis talk and play both inside and outside of Mafia and I recognize his sense of humor, and he's denying that I have any claim to that, so I'm lying and must be bad. Hrm.
My memory is just fine, young man.

It's bizarre to me that you think you have a handle on what I do when I'm bad when you have only one game's experience on that subject, and even then, I got recruited by a civilian, so had to adapt my strategies. Back on PA, I was bad- true, but it was my first online game- an MP game- and I had no idea what I was doing. Also, I have NEVER played on the Piano.

My entire point was that you do not know about what I would do when I am bad, so I found it weird that you went all personal about it, given I had to talk in jokes.

I think you are bad.

Fair enough, I wasn't really trying to make a claim about knowing how you play when you're bad, I was more originally responding to someone trying to explain to me how you go about playing in general.

Apologies for making it personal. Seems my memory is going bad.

I think you are bad for going after Boomslang, and I think you're in cahoots with Metalmarsh.

#1156

Typhoony wrote:I want to see people talking today.

At the moment I do not see myself voting for Epi, FZ or MM.

SD and Simon are question marks to me.
I know SD suspects Me/Simon/Agleam in that order basically. I do not know who Simon suspects and it would be lovely if he would tell us.

Agleaminrank is my main suspect.

Worth nothing that it is the first time the Snagret did not kill.

Discuss.

Well the snagret can't attempt a kill after it attempts a double kill, right? Or was that two nights ago? It's hard to navigate this on my phone.

Other possibility is that the snagret was Glorfindel, or one of the others killed in the explosion. My money was on Glorfindel being bad, so that's my thought.

#1157

Epignosis wrote:MM89- Why did you vote for me all this time, and then change your vote to Boomslang?

A young man named John received a parrot as a gift. Problem was, the parrot had a bad attitude and an even worse vocabulary. Every word out of the bird's mouth was rude, obnoxious, and laced with profanity. John tried and tried to change the bird's attitude by consistently saying only polite words, playing soft music and anything else he could think of to "clean up" the bird's vocabulary, but to no avail.

Finally, John was fed up and he yelled at the parrot. The parrot yelled back. John shook the parrot and the parrot got angrier and even more rude In desperation, John threw up his hands, grabbed the bird and put him in the freezer. For a few minutes the parrot squawked and kicked and screamed.

Then suddenly, there was total quiet. Not a peep was heard for over a minute.

Fearing that he'd killed the parrot, John quickly opened the door to the freezer. The parrot calmly stepped out onto John's outstretched arm
and said, "I believe I may have offended you with my rude language and actions. I am sincerely remorseful for my inappropriate transgressions and I fully intend to do everything I can to correct my rude and unforgivable behavior."

John was stunned at the change in the bird's attitude. As he was about to ask the parrot what had made such a dramatic change in his behavior, the bird continued. "May I ask what the chicken did?"

#1158

Why did the chicken cross the road?

Because he was tired of hearing the marmot's bad jokes.

#1159

The whole universe is a large joke. Everything in the universe are just subdivisions of this joke. So why take anything too serious?

#1160

@ Metalmarsh

#1161

RIP Wilgy. I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this revelation. I royally suck at this game. At least we didn't lynch you :P

Seriously though, once again, sorry for suspecting you. I wish you were more helpful though.

I want to bring up a thought. On the previous night, 2 people died as a result of things that look unrelated to the bosses. And then there's MP's posts:

MovingPictures07 wrote:FYI, if this game continues into Day 7, I will be extending that period to 48 hours to accommodate for Christmas.

And this, from the previous night. Notice the underlined:

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Night 4

BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Everyone mourned the death of Dragon D. Luffy, while they were unsure how to feel about Glorfindel and kneel4justice. They held out hope that at least one of them was an evil boss. Either way, the protagonists and Pikmin were determined. They could still fight off the Pikmin haters!

It is now Day 5. You have 24 hours to lynch a boss![/size]

And this is the first night where the killer changed.

I'm wondering if it's possible that both glorfindel and K4J were baddies, and there's only one baddie left, which is why MP said "if the game continues to day 7". How likely is it that the game ends if there are two bosses left, let alone three? Assuming one was bad, we're left with 2. This means 5 against 2.

I went to look at the bosses roles and this is interesting:
Burrowing Snagret– Appearing in all three Pikmin games, this creature burrows underground, but is known for its quick attacks when prey is nearby. Normally, its vote is worth 1. If it decides to execute the bosses' nightkill, it can attempt to kill two targets instead of one, but is only successful if both targets are Pikmin. In addition, for the two day and night cycles after executing a double nightkill, its vote is worth 2, but it cannot nightkil

Burrowing Snarget can't kill the next night only if he killed 2 in the previous night. He only killed one on night 4, so why would they suddenly stop using him if he's still alive? If they could use 2 kills tonight, it would make their condition much better. I think he's dead. So if only the other two are alive, how can the game end if we lynch a civvie and they get one kill during the night? It will still be 3 against 2.

Which makes me seriously consider the possibility that we're looking at one more baddie. Thoughts?

#1162

Spacedaisy wrote:I don't understand your point. I forgot he was the one killed in the last night post put up. And when I remembered that (sadly only after MP busted up laughing at me) I recalled why I had not weighed in on him or suspected him, and why I thought it particularly bad that he had died.

May I ask why you thought this?
Are you the type of person who would make mistakes in the thread on purpose to make it seem like you are not bad? ("Woops I totally forgot Wilgy was dead")

Agleam: I went after Boomslang as well. Why are Epi and MM bad but not me? Why is Epi bad for going after Boomslang in the first place?

#1163

Epignosis wrote:FZ. - I need to know why you trust me, and have done so all game. Your response will matter.

One reason was I really believed you wouldn't use your kid like that.
The other was, the crumbs you left in the thread led me to believe you were a rock pikmin.

#1164

@ FZ:

Possible.
But there are more possibilities:
- With 7 people left, it's possible there are 4 civs - 3 baddies left, and that this could be the final lynch.
- If there are 2 baddies left, it's possible we lynch one and one gets killed by the protagonists tonight.
- The Snagret hasn't been online last night and wasn't able to send in the kill.
- MP would say that regardless of the result of this lynch/NK.

I think it's more likely the Snagret is dead (giving the Phosbat an extra vote) but I don't think the value is in figuring out if there is 1, 2 or 3 baddies left, I'd rather figure out who is actually bad.

#1165

Typhoony wrote:@ FZ:

Possible.
But there are more possibilities:
- With 7 people left, it's possible there are 4 civs - 3 baddies left, and that this could be the final lynch.
- If there are 2 baddies left, it's possible we lynch one and one gets killed by the protagonists tonight.
- The Snagret hasn't been online last night and wasn't able to send in the kill.
- MP would say that regardless of the result of this lynch/NK.

I think it's more likely the Snagret is dead (giving the Phosbat an extra vote) but I don't think the value is in figuring out if there is 1, 2 or 3 baddies left, I'd rather figure out who is actually bad.

Okay, I was mainly saying this because if both Glorfindel and K4J were bad, we could look at their connections and who they suspected or trusted. At the moment, all we have are shots in the dark because we think one of them was more likely to be bad than the other.

But okay, I'm all for figuring out who is bad. We've been doing a lousy job at it so far. I thought maybe we could use something more substantial.
So you think Agleaminranks is bad? Why, because he's pointing fingers at MM and Epi and excluding when you acted similarly? Did I understand right?

#1166

I didn't mean to discourage you from trying to look for connections, but I think it's dangerous to look at somebody's connections when we don't have confirmation they are bad.
Yes, we have a solid reason to suspect atleast one of those three was bad... But that's it. DDL and K4J did not really ping me which would leave Glorfindel to be bad... but I don't know how substantial that is.

That's part of it, yes. Yesterday he made me feel a bit better when he stepped away from that theory, but today he immediately went back to it which took away any of those good feelings I had again.
I'll post a bit more later, have some other stuff to do first.

Who do you think is bad?

#1167

Typhoony wrote:I didn't mean to discourage you from trying to look for connections, but I think it's dangerous to look at somebody's connections when we don't have confirmation they are bad.
Yes, we have a solid reason to suspect atleast one of those three was bad... But that's it. DDL and K4J did not really ping me which would leave Glorfindel to be bad... but I don't know how substantial that is.

That's part of it, yes. Yesterday he made me feel a bit better when he stepped away from that theory, but today he immediately went back to it which took away any of those good feelings I had again.
I'll post a bit more later, have some other stuff to do first.

Who do you think is bad?

DDL was not bad, because he was killed by the baddies.
Which leaves K4J and Glorfindel. Glorfindel pinged a lot of people, but K4J didn't. I agreed with K4J on a lot of things, which made me feel pretty good about him, but seeing my score record so far (or everyone's for that matter), I could have easily been wrong about him. At the moment, I can see reasons to suspect and reasons to trust almost every player in the game. I think that substantial evidence would really help us at this point.

But let's see.
If I haven't been wrong about who I think Epi is, he's my most trusted player. If I'm wrong, I'm the worst player ever to play this game, LOL.

Typhoony- In the last day or so, I felt like we were thinking exactly the same things. Made me feel good about him. I realize that could mean nothing, but I can't bring myself to vote him unless someone gives me a really good reason.

MM- He's the hardest for me to read out of the living players, as it is. Now that he's cursed it's freaking impossible. It makes it easier for him if he's bad, but I don't think he's responsible for the curse. So I have no idea what he is.

SD- Another one I felt was on the same page with me. So what I don't understand is her vote for Epi. Given the result of the lynch, I can't really say anything. By process of elimination, I realize she could be bad, but that's mostly the reason.

Agleaminranks- The only things that pinged me about him were his reaction to my reaction after Matt's lynch (the one about me wanting to be lynched or asking for it, which was ridiculous in my opinion) and then, his theory about Epi and MM working together because of MM's vote switch and both being cursed. But it also felt at the end of the day, like he was trying to get to the bottom of things.

Simon- well, I was one who felt Epi might be wrong about him when he was convinced. I still see no reason to suspect him, but again, process of elimination is not letting me rule him out any more.

I got to admit, I lost my confidence after all the mislynches, but the baddies are doing a fine job this game. I don't have anyone I'm convinced is a baddie at this point.

I feel the best way to find one is to converse live. I hope I'll be around later, but I have this family event tonight, and I'm not sure how much time I'll have.

#1168

Ok I found myself focusing too much on agleaminranks in my head, so I tried to look at other people instead.

Simon:
... I got nothing. There's almost no content at all in his posts. He pops in to vote from time to time or to randomly post something. His reasons for voting are either to save himself or <insert arbitrary reason>.
Best I can go on is the judgement of other people who have played with him, and they seem to think he is not bad, but I would really like some content from him.

Spacedaisy:
Her Day 1 was dominated by defending Glorfindel because she would like to give him the chance to enjoy a light hearted fun game. That's odd to me, but she has explained this multiple times in a way that could make sense.

Day 2 she mostly talked about Sig/Simon/Epi like everybody else. When she is asking questions it seems to me she really wants to figure things out and doesn't just ask things for the hell of it. She ended up voting Simon to tie it up, which is a shit reason if you ask me.

On Day 3 she voted Matt because he refused to make a case on Glorfindel, even after being asked for it, saying that nobody pays attention to his cases anyway and that the people questioning him are bad. Which is fair. There are also some other useful thoughts in that post for everyone to read.

On Day 4 she went against Glorfindel, mostly because she thought there could be a connection to Matt since he changed his mind on Glorfindel. She voted Matt again. Would've been interesting to see if she had gone against Glorfindel if Glor had survived N4, but alas.

And then there is Day 5, where she voted Epi because she felt more confident about Boom than Epi. Fair reason. Says she is susp of Me/Simon/Agleam in that order, has since made it Simon/Gleam/Me (I think?)

I'm leaning slightly more civ on her for now, and her read through made me more comfortable that Glorfindel was bad. I'll hold off on further judgement until she answers my earlier questions.

Also, while looking at the votes, I noticed that agleamingranks is the only one who hasn't yet voted for a lynched person. I find that suspicious... he knows who is bad and who not so it's easy to bathe his hands in innocence if anyone questions him on his voting record.
He has voted for people who were later lynched (Scotty D2, Matt D3). He never mentioned Scotty again after his D2 vote, except AFTER Scotty died. Exactly the same thing for Matt. And here I am focusing on algeaminranks again

#1169

Typhoony wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:I don't understand your point. I forgot he was the one killed in the last night post put up. And when I remembered that (sadly only after MP busted up laughing at me) I recalled why I had not weighed in on him or suspected him, and why I thought it particularly bad that he had died.
May I ask why you thought this?
Are you the type of person who would make mistakes in the thread on purpose to make it seem like you are not bad? ("Woops I totally forgot Wilgy was dead")

Agleam: I went after Boomslang as well. Why are Epi and MM bad but not me? Why is Epi bad for going after Boomslang in the first place?

LOL you guys think me way more capable of being a clever and manipulative baddie than I really am. Intentionally making a mistake in thread is not something I have ever even thought of, let alone tried.

You can ask, yes. But I won't answer. There was a specific reason I didn't weigh in on Wilgy, apparently I did such a good job avoiding it that I forgot about it, lol. Not only do I feel like it would be rule breaking to reveal why, but it wouldn't be helpful to the civs and more specifically to myself.

#1170

Epi, what are your current thoughts on Simon? I'm concerned by the fact that once the storm blew over from the first couple days we have heard nothing from him at all. It worries me that he might be trying to avoid making anymore mistakes and letting his teammates take the lead. Where do you stand on Simon now?

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