Spectator Thread

#501

Tbh, both Opt and LoRab could in principle try to deny each other the chance of winning, by not making it in the Final 3, but I think they could face a tough match against Quin afterwards, either way.

Still can't believe I named a completely random winner when there were 7 or 8 left and here she is, in the final at least.

#502

It seems to me Opt has the best chance of winning if it goes to jury so if I were Sorsha, Quin or Lorab I think that's who I'd vote for. Of course, I have the advantage of seeing what the jury members have said.

#503

Oh no! Lorab is trying to say Quin poisoned her. I wonder if she really believes that or is just trying to turn the group against Quin.

#504

The latter, most surely.

#505

If Opt and Quin are in the final 3:

would you give the game to the person who won the most individual immunity challenge

or

would you give the game to the person whose role allowed them to find a near infinite supply of immunity idols?

#506

I have to agree with the Ponderosians that LoRabs hangup on this poison shctick might sink her game

#507

DharmaHelper wrote:I have to agree with the Ponderosians that LoRabs hangup on this poison shctick might sink her game

It's fairly obvious that Elo poisoned them, so I'm not even sure what the hang up is.

#508

I think SVS is right in that LoRab is angling to get people against Quin...

Though the better play would be "Hey Eloh, hey Opt, Mamana for life lets all 3 vote for Quin"

#509

DharmaHelper wrote:I think SVS is right in that LoRab is angling to get people against Quin...

Though the better play would be "Hey Eloh, hey Opt, Mamana for life lets all 3 vote for Quin"

But Sorsha is in, not Elo

#510

DharmaHelper wrote:If Opt and Quin are in the final 3:

would you give the game to the person who won the most individual immunity challenge

or

would you give the game to the person whose role allowed them to find a near infinite supply of immunity idols?

The former, overall.

#511

Scotty wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:I think SVS is right in that LoRab is angling to get people against Quin...

Though the better play would be "Hey Eloh, hey Opt, Mamana for life lets all 3 vote for Quin"
But Sorsha is in, not Elo

Oh right, oops. I forgot.

The better play would still be to vote Quin, though I suspect a 2-2.

#512

Sorsha going for the jugular, woo!

#513

Good to see Sorsha getting in the mud.

#514

If it's Sorsha/Quin/Lorab that's a tough call. I guess I'd give it to Quin, but his role was way too strong.

#515

I think I'd be happy with an Opt/Quin/Sorsha final 3.

#516

Sorsha and LoRab are discussing in BTSC which of Quin or Opt would be most likely to vote the other. Right now they've sorta agreed on appealing to Quin to vote out Opt. It's interesting that the question then isn't, "who would be the biggest threat at the end", but "who would help vote out the other."

It's currently looking like a 2-2 split of LoRab/Opt unless someone changes something in the thread.

#517

Scotty wrote:Sorsha and LoRab are discussing in BTSC which of Quin or Opt would be most likely to vote the other. Right now they've sorta agreed on appealing to Quin to vote out Opt. It's interesting that the question then isn't, "who would be the biggest threat at the end", but "who would help vote out the other."

It's currently looking like a 2-2 split of LoRab/Opt unless someone changes something in the thread.

That is interesting. I think Opt is the biggest threat. I'll enjoy any of the three who make it to the final.

#518

Opt deserves to win, but the other 3 probably think that's the best reason not to take her.

#519

DharmaHelper wrote:Opt deserves to win, but the other 3 probably think that's the best reason not to take her.

Quin stated in BTSC several times that he'd rather have competitors who showed up to play sitting in the end. I think he wants Opt there next to him

#520

Scotty wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Opt deserves to win, but the other 3 probably think that's the best reason not to take her.
Quin stated in BTSC several times that he'd rather have competitors who showed up to play sitting in the end. I think he wants Opt there next to him

Opt is in a bad spot for that because if she were to jump ship now and vote Quin, she will have alienated a ton of people on the jury

#521

Scotty wrote:
Scotty wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Opt deserves to win, but the other 3 probably think that's the best reason not to take her.
Quin stated in BTSC several times that he'd rather have competitors who showed up to play sitting in the end. I think he wants Opt there next to him
Opt is in a bad spot for that because if she were to jump ship now and vote Quin, she will have alienated a ton of people on the jury

Yeah the "turncoat" ain't usually rewarded in these types of shows.

#522

Glad to see Quin is fighting back against Lorab. So odd that she thinks people don't see that Eloh did the poisoning. Also odd that she's attacking if she and Sorsha want Quin to do something, namely vote Opt.

#523

juliets wrote:Glad to see Quin is fighting back against Lorab. So odd that she thinks people don't see that Eloh did the poisoning. Also odd that she's attacking if she and Sorsha want Quin to do something, namely vote Opt.

It would appear that maybe she started with the intention of putting it on Quin to see if Opt would want to vote her.

Or, she truly believes Elo wouldn't do that in a LMS game and then

#524

Opt giving a speech on loyalty might be even funnier than King Negan

#525

Opt and Lorab saying "I dont know what to do" when if they just agreed to vote for Quin they'd be at least 50/50 fine.. Come on guys!

#526

1.5 hours til deadline and I have received only 1 vote.

#527

Scotty wrote:1.5 hours til deadline and I have received only 1 vote.

I vote Sorsha

#528

WHERS DA POST

#529

Ricochet wrote:WHERS DA POST

23 minutes from here.

#530

Thar.

#531

If Opt loses to Quin or Sorsha it will have been a robbery.

#532

GOSORSHA

#533

DharmaHelper wrote:If Opt loses to Quin or Sorsha it will have been a robbery.

I think each of them has reasons why they would make a good winner. I hope it is a close vote.

And wow Lorab ate the chicken? I thought Scotty said Quin ate it, I must have misunderstood. Lorab ate it for a good reason though if what she says is true.

#534

Do real life jury members discuss their vote option openly? I think this shouldn't be allowed in Ponderosa. It could be so easy to rally up or influence another's vote.

#535

I dunno about survivor, but in Big Brother the jury gets 1 night to talk out among themselves who might deserve the votes

#536

I dunno how Quin can say with a straight face his power didn't carry him all the way to the end when you look at how many idols he had and how many times his idol saved his bacon. His "biggest move" in getting me out was solely because he had an idol.

#537

Ricochet wrote:Do real life jury members discuss their vote option openly? I think this shouldn't be allowed in Ponderosa. It could be so easy to rally up or influence another's vote.

Here's where this game and the real game slightly differ:

Because tribal comes directly after Lorab was voted out, I thought it h fair to LORab to not be able to discuss with her fellow jurors her thoughts.

What does happen in the real life ponderosa is people do mingle and rally for their prospective vote before tribal, discuss what they're going to talk about, etc. This is a mechanic that the jury has but doesn't always have to play with.

#538

juliets wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:If Opt loses to Quin or Sorsha it will have been a robbery.
I think each of them has reasons why they would make a good winner. I hope it is a close vote.

And wow Lorab ate the chicken? I thought Scotty said Quin ate it, I must have misunderstood. Lorab ate it for a good reason though if what she says is true.

No, Quin had trouble with the digging portion of yesterday's challenge so I made fun of him in my post. Someone in Ponderosa took that to mean he ate the chicken.

#539

DharmaHelper wrote:I dunno about survivor, but in Big Brother the jury gets 1 night to talk out among themselves who might deserve the votes

In Survivor, after each jury member asks a question, they all secretly vote and it's done. Though you'll hear in Ponderosa videos of the people that will not vote in the end

Also lol at INH stealing your Negan schtick

#540

Remember that talk about bitter juries I had early on this thread?
Yeah, it's still a thing

#541

Scotty wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:I dunno about survivor, but in Big Brother the jury gets 1 night to talk out among themselves who might deserve the votes
In Survivor, after each jury member asks a question, they all secretly vote and it's done. Though you'll hear in Ponderosa videos of the people that will not vote in the end

Also lol at INH stealing your Negan schtick

I prefer to think of it not as stealing, but as carrying on the legacy.

#542

Scotty wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Do real life jury members discuss their vote option openly? I think this shouldn't be allowed in Ponderosa. It could be so easy to rally up or influence another's vote.
Here's where this game and the real game slightly differ:

Because tribal comes directly after Lorab was voted out, I thought it h fair to LORab to not be able to discuss with her fellow jurors her thoughts.

What does happen in the real life ponderosa is people do mingle and rally for their prospective vote before tribal, discuss what they're going to talk about, etc. This is a mechanic that the jury has but doesn't always have to play with.

Oh ok.

I'm just of the mentality that, mingle and all, it wouldn't (or I wouldn't like for it to) influence my decision. I'd only be judging the ones in the final 2 or 3 chairs.

#543

Scotty wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:I dunno about survivor, but in Big Brother the jury gets 1 night to talk out among themselves who might deserve the votes
In Survivor, after each jury member asks a question, they all secretly vote and it's done. Though you'll hear in Ponderosa videos of the people that will not vote in the end

Also lol at INH stealing your Negan schtick

I forgot to add that every juror in BB apart from the last gets to participate in that group discussion. The last juror is usually eliminated the night of the finale, so they only get their questions

#544

<doesn't care much about Survivor irl
<cares instead about BB

oh, Negoo

#545

Hey, I watch more Big Brother than Survivor, but I care about both equally.

#546

I guess technically I have 2 ideas for games now.

#547

Maybe it's just my personal preference but I can't see how anyone can not choose Opt to win the game. She played the social game like a pro, adapting to the loss of a strong ally in myself. She rode another strong ally (Golden) and had the sense/balls to cut him loose. And she won the majority of immunity challenges (even ones she had no role advantage in)

#548

DharmaHelper wrote:Maybe it's just my personal preference but I can't see how anyone can not choose Opt to win the game. She played the social game like a pro, adapting to the loss of a strong ally in myself. She rode another strong ally (Golden) and had the sense/balls to cut him loose. And she won the majority of immunity challenges (even ones she had no role advantage in)

She can lose based on butthurt effect. INH and Epig seem way more detached, but don't know about the rest.

I still sort of suspect a bitter jury maj on this one.

#549

Ricochet wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Maybe it's just my personal preference but I can't see how anyone can not choose Opt to win the game. She played the social game like a pro, adapting to the loss of a strong ally in myself. She rode another strong ally (Golden) and had the sense/balls to cut him loose. And she won the majority of immunity challenges (even ones she had no role advantage in)
She can lose based on butthurt effect. INH and Epig seem way more detached, but don't know about the rest.

I still sort of suspect a bitter jury maj on this one.

Preach it. I dunno why the jury is so bitter, man. If ya got played ya got played. I'm not mad at Quin for doing me like he did. From a game move, it was a good one. Not a great one, and definitely not a game winner, but a good move.

I just think that Quin doesn't deserve a win because he essentially had a skeleton key to the final four. And Sorsha played a good enough game, but really didn't make any move. When your best strategy is no strategy at all, then you shouldn't be sitting at the end.

#550

I don't think the Quin power role complaint is fair, just like the Opt power role complaint isn't either. Quin didn't use idols every tribal council. The others didn't eliminate him when he didn't. Their loss. Opt didn't win every challenge ever. In fact, she lost the very last one. She was left in the game.

It is what it is.