Survivor: Mafia [Day 1-3: Mamana Tribe]

#601

I think Chuck and I came up with some good options to pick from, but I did want to highlight some good stuff from Wilgy here.

DrWilgy wrote:I got food poisoning... How unlucky :^(

@Eloh, of course I'm smart, what exactly do you disagree with me on? that I'm unlucky ;^)

DharmaHelper wrote:
I'm gonna need everyone on the same page here. Wilgy barely escaped tribal after some very uncool shenanigans. I'm a benevolent King, but not one that suffers many insults or fools. Wilgy, as part of the tribe you're part of what gives us the win or the loss, so I'm willing to do a few things if you are.

The Anti-Wigly rules are temporarily lifted n the following circumstances:

Wilgy participates in challenges to the best of his ability
Wilgy provides food, fire, and shelter to the best of his ability
Wilgy is honest and forthright towards the tribe

If you break any of those rules, or I smell a whiff of you might possibly break one of them, or you misread one of them, or you so much as think sideways, and it's your ass.
Kay :^)

I will fight in spite of my illness. I think I can pull this off.

speedchuck wrote:Balance: High, Block, Low, Block, Block, High, Block, Low
Balance 2: Low, Block, High, Block, High, Block, Low, Block
I think it's also important to consider the defensive inverse orders i.e.
Block, Low, Block, High, Block, High, Block, Low.

In regards to this challenge I think we need to focus on our meta reads of our opponents. i.e. If you were against me would you expect me to be aggressive or defensive? If I saw I was facing myself I'd block 2, attack, block 1, attack, block 1, use remaining attacks.

I think between the three of us we've got the core pillars of the challenge figured out. If you're fighting, you should consider A) What'll get you points B) What'll keep you in the fight C) Your matchup's meta.

Strike a good balance with those three, and we should be in the clear.

#602

I have to come read a bit later. I'll be back!

#603

Golden--your energy level is the same as Eloh's. If that's the case, then either of you can go. Up to y'all.

DrWilgy wrote:
@DH, sure but why?

Because we all agreed that it's the priority for us to be taking care of food and water, and not looking for idols this round, with more than half of our camp sick.

#604

Meant the first part as a question, not a statement.

#605

I'm 16 energy not 15. I'm at 7 hunger though, I'm beginning to worry about that.

#606

Golden wrote:I can play if need be. I'm in a similar situation to eloh.

@Wilgy and @INH: Do either of you still have your extra fish? Would you please consider giving it to Golden ASAP?

#607

LoRab wrote:
Golden wrote:I can play if need be. I'm in a similar situation to eloh.
@Wilgy and @INH: Do either of you still have your extra fish? Would you please consider giving it to Golden ASAP?

Unfortunately, I do not still have mine. However, if I receive an extra fish as a result of my fishing today, I'll give it to Golden.

#608

Gladly! I'll toss it his way.

#609

Opt_Outside wrote:I moved off fire if it's a one man duty and will fish, unless we'd prefer I get water with two people already fishing

If we think we have too many fishing I can nap. If I don't recover from my illness by tomorrow fishing I'll need to nap anyways.

#610

I'm gonna knuckle up and see if I can't math out some of the better tactics. If I come up dry I'll just drop it but if anything interesting develops I'll post my findings here.

#611

Golden wrote:I'm 16 energy not 15. I'm at 7 hunger though, I'm beginning to worry about that.

I'm 15 energy and 7 hunger. I gave food away last night and did not eat. I think I should sit and then give you food tonight. What do you think?

#612

I am also putting in for BTSC with Lorab. Anyone else want to talk to me?

#613

Elohcin wrote:I am also putting in for BTSC with Lorab. Anyone else want to talk to me?

Can I redeem myself and talk to you Eloh?

#614

Elohcin wrote:
Golden wrote:I'm 16 energy not 15. I'm at 7 hunger though, I'm beginning to worry about that.
I'm 15 energy and 7 hunger. I gave food away last night and did not eat. I think I should sit and then give you food tonight. What do you think?

Also I have already decided to give food to Golden. Conserve your energy.

#615

DrWilgy wrote:
Opt_Outside wrote:I moved off fire if it's a one man duty and will fish, unless we'd prefer I get water with two people already fishing
If we think we have too many fishing I can nap. If I don't recover from my illness by tomorrow fishing I'll need to nap anyways.

What's your energy level at? We probably can't have every sick person napping, and still have enough food and water for the camp.

We're better off having more food, I think. We all need to eat.

#616

DrWilgy wrote:
Elohcin wrote:I am also putting in for BTSC with Lorab. Anyone else want to talk to me?
Can I redeem myself and talk to you Eloh?

I'd like that.

#617

After a bit of fiddling I have a few findings

- I don't think Blocking should be an opener
- I think Low is a good one to use near the end/last
- I'm not sure how effective it would be to pick a strategy that's designed to score 20pts as fast as possible versus just trying to put points on the board.

#618

It seems to be higher than Eloh's and Golden's I'm still at 18 and am not really concerned about energy, I'm just thinking of ways to remedy this sickness as it lasting long will in fact kill me and cause my body to explode... How unlucky :^(

I'll remain fishing then.

@Eloh, okie dokie. I'll send in my pm.

#619

LoRab wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:
Opt_Outside wrote:I moved off fire if it's a one man duty and will fish, unless we'd prefer I get water with two people already fishing
If we think we have too many fishing I can nap. If I don't recover from my illness by tomorrow fishing I'll need to nap anyways.
What's your energy level at? We probably can't have every sick person napping, and still have enough food and water for the camp.

We're better off having more food, I think. We all need to eat.

Only two of us are napping, those of us with the least amount of energy. I think we should be okay, right?

What I'm worried about is how sick we all are. There was nothing in the PM about getting better on our own. It said we would lose energy until we were out of the game unless "treated". We need to find out how to be treated. I don't think we will just all recover over time.

#620

I recall that the DH was saying the natural footbridge was new? Perhaps it has something to do with our sickness?

#621

DrWilgy wrote:I recall that the DH was saying the natural footbridge was new? Perhaps it has something to do with our sickness?

Could be! It also may be that we've finished building a shelter and so that's not there any more.

#622

Elohcin wrote:
Golden wrote:I'm 16 energy not 15. I'm at 7 hunger though, I'm beginning to worry about that.
I'm 15 energy and 7 hunger. I gave food away last night and did not eat. I think I should sit and then give you food tonight. What do you think?

I think you should sit. I can sit out the next one if it's still a problem. I took LoRab's advice and I'm taking a nap as well.

#623

I'm BTSCing with LoRab and INH, as far as I know.

I think someone should check the footbridge.

Jeff, My fighting actions:
High, Block, Low, Block, Block, High, Block, Low
(Balance 1)

#624

Here's kinda what I'm thinking,

We are losing optimum ability to use the food we gain as long as we remain sick and something needs to be triggered to cure us. I think I should try to check something out as this is a creeping problem.

Golden, will you participate in the challenge now that you have been fishied?

linki- kay, I'll go if no one has any dire food issues.

#625

DrWilgy wrote:Here's kinda what I'm thinking,

We are losing optimum ability to use the food we gain as long as we remain sick and something needs to be triggered to cure us. I think I should try to check something out as this is a creeping problem.

Golden, will you participate in the challenge now that you have been fishied?

linki- kay, I'll go if no one has any dire food issues.

I have dire issues with you going anywhere alone after last night.

#626

Maybe I should do the footbridge. It shouldn't take too much energy and if it's possible we could get 'treatment' there.

But I can't even understand the concept for how you 'treat' food poisoning... in the real world even.

#627

Golden wrote:Maybe I should do the footbridge. It shouldn't take too much energy and if it's possible we could get 'treatment' there.

But I can't even understand the concept for how you 'treat' food poisoning... in the real world even.

I think it's just a matter of rest/hydration/good food intake. Which is why I'd like to get as much food and water for this phase.

#628

(confirming that it's me, eloh, and lorab for btsc tonight?)

What did I do last night? other than not discuss DH? We have 3 sickies and 2 of them need to rest. Unless someone would like to come with me I don't know if there's a better means of us discovering a way to be treated.

Perhaps we just need to drink a whole lot of water however?

linki - you sure Golden? I have no issues with you going.

#629

Golden wrote:Maybe I should do the footbridge. It shouldn't take too much energy and if it's possible we could get 'treatment' there.

But I can't even understand the concept for how you 'treat' food poisoning... in the real world even.

Golden, if you want to nap I can check out the footbridge. Then we'd still have two fishing and two getting water

#630

I'm really not fussed either way- I'm happy to keep fishing or check out the footbridge. Whatever the tribe would like me to do.

#631

Cheers opt. I think two might be enough fishing for now. Although, actually, with your strength you might be a good fisher?

Should I slot in 7th for the challenge? I know that's the 'winner take all slot', but maybe we'll have it done before I have to compete?

Either that or maybe we want to put our strong players last? Not sure.

#632

I do think it's best I take a nap anyway. DH is right that 'treatment' might just be rest.

#633

speedchuck wrote:I think the ordering is going to happen automatically, based on sign-ups. Which is good, because I think none of the sick people have signed up yet.

DH, as far as strategy goes, let's suppose that mine is a bust. I don't want to give away the first four with that. Nor do I want to put your strategy entirely on the sick/weak players that sign up last.
Let's throw up some options, pick the most suitable ones as being acceptable, and then let each player pick from the shortlist.

Balance: High, Block, Low, Block, Block, High, Block, Low
Balance 2: Low, Block, Low, Block, High, Block, Low, Block
Aggro 1: High, Low, Block, High, Block, Low, Block, Block
Aggro 2: High, High, Block, Low, Block, Low, Block, Block
Full Aggro: High, High, Low, Low, Block, Block, Block, Block

Just some suggestions.

One more suggestion - aggro with late ninja-stealth mode move

High, low, high, block, block, block, block, low

Spoiler: show

#634

Golden wrote:Cheers opt. I think two might be enough fishing for now. Although, actually, with your strength you might be a good fisher?

Should I slot in 7th for the challenge? I know that's the 'winner take all slot', but maybe we'll have it done before I have to compete?

Either that or maybe we want to put our strong players last? Not sure.

I think if you went last that would be fine.

@Jeff These are my moves: Low, Block, High, Block, High, Block, Low, Block

#635

Golden wrote:Cheers opt. I think two might be enough fishing for now. Although, actually, with your strength you might be a good fisher?

Should I slot in 7th for the challenge? I know that's the 'winner take all slot', but maybe we'll have it done before I have to compete?

Either that or maybe we want to put our strong players last? Not sure.

Well.. I thought Wilgy was fishing but now he's going to the water well instead? I don't really think we need three people there... so right now there are only two of us fishing and three at the well. If wilgy changes back to fishing I can go to the footbridge. I don't particularly think I'd get a strength advantage fishing, but I'm happy to stay and try if that's what you guys prefer!

#636

speedchuck wrote:Balance: High, Block, Low, Block, Block, High, Block, Low
Balance 2: Low, Block, High, Block, High, Block, Low, Block
Aggro 1: High, Low, Block, High, Block, Low, Block, Block
Aggro 2: High, High, Block, Low, Block, Low, Block, Block
Full Aggro: High, High, Low, Low, Block, Block, Block, Block
Reserve: Low, High, Block, High, Block, Block, Block, Low

To our fellow survivors: Are there any of these options you would rather see eliminated? We have 6 options here, and I think if we get it down to 3 or 4 for the challenge, we'll be good to go. Then the fighters can select from the move lists.

Alternatively, if you think you have a good ordering to throw in, please do. Just keep in mind that we do want to narrow down, so it'd better be at least on the level of these plans.

I have an idea. It might be a bad idea, but it's an idea...

I think the other tribe is going to pick an approach and all do it. I just feel that in my gut. They'll decide what they think is the best approach, and run with it.

Perhaps our best approach is to mix it up. Use seven different patterns. If they go the same way every time, some of our patterns will be better and some will be worse.

I think the more strong players (like opt) should go as aggro as possible... they won't have weak moments. Weaker members should perhaps go more balanced.

#637

I think two is enough for water. We had two last time and we all seem to be at about 9 or 10 for water.

#638

Fish seems more important to me. Three fishing is good. We can explore the footbridge next time. I think the highest probability is these are potential idol hiding places anyway, and it might just be that we have to give up on that until we have a well tribe.

#639

Order of competition

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7. Golden

#640

btw - I'm competing jeff

People, you should complete your spot in the order and your order of attacks so that we can all easily see the progression?

#641

I'll do aggro 2 and it looks like I'm up first. Jeff edited the challenge and there's an order already posted

My moves will be high, high, block, low, block, low, block

And sounds good, Golden. I'll stick with fishing.

#642

Also, as much as I'm enjoying writing here about Survivor Mafia, I now have to go write about actual Survivor so that my blog is done during the weekend. I'll pop in when I get moments.

#643

Oh, I see, it's in order of signups. Next time that happens, lets discuss order before signing up. It should be all good though.

#644

Golden wrote:btw - I'm competing jeff

People, you should complete your spot in the order and your order of attacks so that we can all easily see the progression?

My sleepy naptime boy, Jeff slotted us in order of when we signed up, which is why I delayed my signing up 'till like 5th which is my sweet spot.

#645

My order - High, low, high, block, block, block, block, low

#646

Golden wrote:Also, as much as I'm enjoying writing here about Survivor Mafia, I now have to go write about actual Survivor so that my blog is done during the weekend. I'll pop in when I get moments.

Hilarious that our tribe is called Mamana and one of theirs is Mana

#647

We renamed our tribe Manamana anyway

For those who don't know, in a Pacific sense the word 'mana' is sort of hard for me to translate into English but it's sort of a combination of prestige and influence. Someone who comes into a room and has the immediate respect of the room is said to have 'mana'. They are the people who can speak softy for one minute and their words carry more weight than everything else going on around it.

That's mana. Let's live up to it!

#648

(lets live up to it.... twice)

#649

Golden wrote:btw - I'm competing jeff

People, you should complete your spot in the order and your order of attacks so that we can all easily see the progression?

I've already slotted everyone in the Challenge post!
1. Opt_Out vs Long Con
2. INH vs SVS
3. speedchuck vs Sorsha
4. LoRab vs DF
5. DH vs Quin
6. DrWilgy vs ______
7. Golden vs ______

As soon as the other tribe finishes their order, I can start tabulating.

#650

Golden wrote:We renamed our tribe Manamana anyway

For those who don't know, in a Pacific sense the word 'mana' is sort of hard for me to translate into English but it's sort of a combination of prestige and influence. Someone who comes into a room and has the immediate respect of the room is said to have 'mana'. They are the people who can speak softy for one minute and their words carry more weight than everything else going on around it.

That's mana. Let's live up to it!

There's a box of colored rocks at treemail! (Pick one per person please)