After a while I sort of went 'this role sucks'. I was actively trying to make it so my role wasn't as overpowered as it was. It's literally half the reason why I came into BTSC and said 'hey, here's the idol - go get it'.DharmaHelper wrote:If I were in the Jury and it was between the three of you, you might have needed to answer whatever B.S question I came up with to convince me to vote your way. I think fairly or unfairly, your idol power made the jury hesitant to vote for you to win.Quin wrote:Putting on my self-entitlement hat for a second - I'm actually surprised I only got one jury vote. Who dat
Linki @ Golden - I suspected he had the idol (as did INH) I just didn't have the gas in the tank to get the votes swapped around to where it would have mattered.
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We sectioned the map off into smaller grids, assigned everyone a plot of land, and took turns guessing. Apparently you guys just....rattled off numbers?Long Con wrote:That was you? How did you do it??DharmaHelper wrote:How the fuck you gonna do me so dirty when I kicked so much ass at battleship guys?
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SVS wrote:I had planned to vote for Sorsha, but Quins answers have blown me away. *Votes Quin to win*
Golden wrote:Opt, this vote was always going to you. You did a great job, and I'm really proud of you. I'm not sure you can beat quin, you definitely made a mistake not keeping your ruthlessness and voting him out. But I think you made the best decisions in this game and you are most responsible for your own making it to the end. You are a truly deserving winner. Good luck! *Vote OptOut*
LoRab wrote:Opt, you lost my trust and my vote a while ago, and Quin you never had mine. Sorsha, I never thought you'd be who I was rooting for in the end, but I really hope you win this. *Vote Sorsha*
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Frankly, Opt, you deserve the win. You maneuvered exactly where you needed to be, and broke with Golden at the perfect time. You're the only person in the final three who can claim to be the reason the other two players are sitting there. That, and this is your first game on The Syndicate? I mean, wow. I'm proud to cast this vote for you, and hopefully, I'll kick your ass in Syndicate Survivor 2: Australian Outback. *Votes OptOut*
Elohcin wrote:I'm voting for sorsha to win. *Sorsha*
notsawyer540 wrote:You were the strongest player and fulfilled the tagline of "Outwit, Outplay, Outlast." You are the true survivor. *Votes OptOut*
DFaraday wrote:It was a tough decision, but going purely on gameplay, I have to give it to Opt. *Votes OptOut*
Epignosis wrote:Opt. For the win. *Votes OptOut*
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What are you talking about??? There were no Idols in play until that very Tribal Council, in which you had the only Idol. Wait, am I remembering wrong?Golden wrote:She did relay it to me, but I did not trust it not to be an idol play. I thought it was genuinely possible that you and sawyer were planning to play an idol to flip the numbers. I made up stuff for her to copy paste to keep you in the dark.Long Con wrote:Though it was not what I expected, I wouldn't call it a complete blindside. I don't know whether or not Sorsha relayed to you when I asked her just to be straight up with me if I was getting played. She decided not to grant me that dignity, so yes, I guess you could call it a "blindside". My blind side being my faith that I was dealing with people who had a scrap of sympathy or honour.Golden wrote:I was looking for a single person to turn. Sorsha said she didn't trust you. So down you went.Long Con wrote:Wow, congratulations, Opt!
Golden, you're on the list.
You gotta say though, I blindsided you good. I pulled a few great blindsides in this game - you, inh, SVS... it was good stuff.
I may not have had honour, but I did have sympathy.
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This makes me feel slightly betterLong Con wrote:I would have voted you dude. Congrats on Final Three... rumour has it there's a banner involved in that.Quin wrote:Putting on my self-entitlement hat for a second - I'm actually surprised I only got one jury vote. Who dat
The fact is that I had a column in my spreadsheet just titled "DH", and people got a positive or negative number for how they were inclined to you. I started it when you started the King of the Island shit. I never wavered for a second from the Goal. I guarantee you that. Anything I said about you was about reading the results for our future benefit.DharmaHelper wrote:Oddly I think Eloh's elimination hit me the hardest. She was my last BTSC partner alongside SVS, and I enjoyed our conversations RE: Loyalty. I think if she'd made it to the end she would have been in the running.
Linki @ LC: Some birdies told me you were talking all kinds of shit about me.
At least I won't get canonically killed off, right?
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I mean a hidden one. We didn't know you or sawyer didn't have one (as it happened, Quin had it).Long Con wrote:What are you talking about??? There were no Idols in play until that very Tribal Council, in which you had the only Idol. Wait, am I remembering wrong?Golden wrote:She did relay it to me, but I did not trust it not to be an idol play. I thought it was genuinely possible that you and sawyer were planning to play an idol to flip the numbers. I made up stuff for her to copy paste to keep you in the dark.Long Con wrote:Though it was not what I expected, I wouldn't call it a complete blindside. I don't know whether or not Sorsha relayed to you when I asked her just to be straight up with me if I was getting played. She decided not to grant me that dignity, so yes, I guess you could call it a "blindside". My blind side being my faith that I was dealing with people who had a scrap of sympathy or honour.Golden wrote:I was looking for a single person to turn. Sorsha said she didn't trust you. So down you went.Long Con wrote:Wow, congratulations, Opt!
Golden, you're on the list.
You gotta say though, I blindsided you good. I pulled a few great blindsides in this game - you, inh, SVS... it was good stuff.
I may not have had honour, but I did have sympathy.
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I don't know if I had an ideal final 3 in mind. I had a core group I was willing and able to go to the end with. I promise I'm not half the sneaky monster most people around here think I am :P
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LC - I mean, here's a rule in Survivor.
Never ask to be voted for...
Never ask people to be straight with you...
They'll assume you are trying to con them into voting for you. Long Con you, even.
It just made me think you were playing me and you were going to invalidate the votes if you found out they were coming your way.
Never ask to be voted for...
Never ask people to be straight with you...
They'll assume you are trying to con them into voting for you. Long Con you, even.
It just made me think you were playing me and you were going to invalidate the votes if you found out they were coming your way.
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In fairness the birdies that told me you were talking shit also told me they weren't going to bend me over a barrel.Long Con wrote:I would have voted you dude. Congrats on Final Three... rumour has it there's a banner involved in that.Quin wrote:Putting on my self-entitlement hat for a second - I'm actually surprised I only got one jury vote. Who dat
The fact is that I had a column in my spreadsheet just titled "DH", and people got a positive or negative number for how they were inclined to you. I started it when you started the King of the Island shit. I never wavered for a second from the Goal. I guarantee you that. Anything I said about you was about reading the results for our future benefit.DharmaHelper wrote:Oddly I think Eloh's elimination hit me the hardest. She was my last BTSC partner alongside SVS, and I enjoyed our conversations RE: Loyalty. I think if she'd made it to the end she would have been in the running.
Linki @ LC: Some birdies told me you were talking all kinds of shit about me.
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True dat.Long Con wrote:I would have voted you dude. Congrats on Final Three... rumour has it there's a banner involved in that.Quin wrote:Putting on my self-entitlement hat for a second - I'm actually surprised I only got one jury vote. Who dat
Some awesome dude named Con Long or something drafted these cool banners to wear proudly in your sigs!
Congrats to everyone that made jury and above! You're all technically winners in my book!
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You didn't know if I might have an Idol... so you colluded secretly against me and broke from the Original Five agreement so easily? I guess you were counting on me NOT having an Idol? What is this I don't evenGolden wrote:I mean a hidden one. We didn't know you or sawyer didn't have one (as it happened, Quin had it).Long Con wrote:What are you talking about??? There were no Idols in play until that very Tribal Council, in which you had the only Idol. Wait, am I remembering wrong?Golden wrote:She did relay it to me, but I did not trust it not to be an idol play. I thought it was genuinely possible that you and sawyer were planning to play an idol to flip the numbers. I made up stuff for her to copy paste to keep you in the dark.Long Con wrote:Though it was not what I expected, I wouldn't call it a complete blindside. I don't know whether or not Sorsha relayed to you when I asked her just to be straight up with me if I was getting played. She decided not to grant me that dignity, so yes, I guess you could call it a "blindside". My blind side being my faith that I was dealing with people who had a scrap of sympathy or honour.Golden wrote:I was looking for a single person to turn. Sorsha said she didn't trust you. So down you went.Long Con wrote:Wow, congratulations, Opt!
Golden, you're on the list.
You gotta say though, I blindsided you good. I pulled a few great blindsides in this game - you, inh, SVS... it was good stuff.
I may not have had honour, but I did have sympathy.
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What is the original five agreement?
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Phew, you had me going! Thank you. I felt you would have taken me to the end, but I would have gotten there riding your coat tails. I would have been disappointed in myself for not blazing my own trail on my one shot at Survivor. And if I'd been a jury member witnessing that, my vote would have gone to you. Next time we'll go all the way as a teamGolden wrote:Congrats Opt! You did so well. I'm really pleased you won.
That's no knock against Quin or Sorsha at all. I really thought Quin was going to win that jury vote, so I wanted to push Opt into gear early.
PS Quin - I genuinely had your back entirely and intended to betray LoRab not you (unless she won at final four, then you would have been gone), but I don't blame you at all for not trusting me and voting me out. Not only that, you had me completely fooled (although I should've paid more attention to how relaxed you were when I kept saying 'I'm not sure if Opt will be up for taking you to final three instead of LoRab'... the signs were there).
I really thought that Opt made the wrong choice taking me out... I felt like I was your ticket to win Opt! You were going to beat me, I swear. And if Quin hadn't found that idol at 5 and opt hadn't won the challenge I think Eloh/LoRab/Sorsha would have been the final three... but you guys found your own way anyway and that was equally impressive.
I didn't get to see much of sorsha's game, so it's a shame there wasn't enough time for her to answer my question.
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I didn't get to be quite the villain I'd wanted to be, but I did get to squash Boomslang's insurrection. And I had a lasting impact on the game long after my elimination, so I can't really ask for more.
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Yeah... looks like the final 5 thing was never going to work out. Too many big egos, no?
Also, cool banners. I'm proud that I've got something to show for what I consider a successful game on my part (although in truth it's anything but)
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Me too dude. I seriously expected to lose to you lolQuin wrote:Putting on my self-entitlement hat for a second - I'm actually surprised I only got one jury vote. Who dat
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Golden, one day I promise you we'll play a game together where we don't rip each others throats out.
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That's one of the funny things that happened in this game... people thought I had a lot of deals but then I was being told I was in deals that I never was...
Deals I made in the game:
Final three with Quin and SVS pre-game, and a side pact with DH
Final three with Opt and DH at Atamai, final five with LoRab and speedchuck
Final three with Opt and sorsha in the post-swap tribe
Then I gave LoRab a final three deal to slot in to DH's place come merge when he was gone
That was all the deals I made... it's a few, but I heard a lot more that I had apparently made.
Deals I made in the game:
Final three with Quin and SVS pre-game, and a side pact with DH
Final three with Opt and DH at Atamai, final five with LoRab and speedchuck
Final three with Opt and sorsha in the post-swap tribe
Then I gave LoRab a final three deal to slot in to DH's place come merge when he was gone
That was all the deals I made... it's a few, but I heard a lot more that I had apparently made.
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Well, I never asked to be voted for, so I'll take your second piece of advice to heart. As long as you take to heart that you voted out a teammate who would have kept the Original Five over any other commitment. notsawyer, sorry, everything we agreed to was a lie on my part. Based on Original Five.Golden wrote:LC - I mean, here's a rule in Survivor.
Never ask to be voted for...
Never ask people to be straight with you...
They'll assume you are trying to con them into voting for you. Long Con you, even.
It just made me think you were playing me and you were going to invalidate the votes if you found out they were coming your way.
Maybe I could have been your ticket to a win.
And you see how that went. Next time, stick with someone truly loyal. Agree now and we will never speak of it again until after the nest Survivor. We'll just know it.DharmaHelper wrote:In fairness the birdies that told me you were talking shit also told me they weren't going to bend me over a barrel.Long Con wrote:I would have voted you dude. Congrats on Final Three... rumour has it there's a banner involved in that.Quin wrote:Putting on my self-entitlement hat for a second - I'm actually surprised I only got one jury vote. Who dat
The fact is that I had a column in my spreadsheet just titled "DH", and people got a positive or negative number for how they were inclined to you. I started it when you started the King of the Island shit. I never wavered for a second from the Goal. I guarantee you that. Anything I said about you was about reading the results for our future benefit.DharmaHelper wrote:Oddly I think Eloh's elimination hit me the hardest. She was my last BTSC partner alongside SVS, and I enjoyed our conversations RE: Loyalty. I think if she'd made it to the end she would have been in the running.
Linki @ LC: Some birdies told me you were talking all kinds of shit about me.
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Honestly, from the way people talked about you in the thread, I expected to win as well. You had some great answers though, and this could have gone either way.Opt_Outside wrote:Me too dude. I seriously expected to lose to you lolQuin wrote:Putting on my self-entitlement hat for a second - I'm actually surprised I only got one jury vote. Who dat
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I never ripped your throat out. I never even lied to you once in the chat that day I was really trying to figure out how to get you to the end. I felt like I owed you for voting SVS out.Quin wrote:Golden, one day I promise you we'll play a game together where we don't rip each others throats out.
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LC, you seem to think you had an 'original five' deal with me. I had never even heard about such a thing until after you were gone. Someone was bullshitting you that I had allied with you.
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Wow. DH told me pregame that he had deals with you, INH, and Quin to combine with DH and I for a Final Five alliance. I foolishly believed it, I guess.Golden wrote:That's one of the funny things that happened in this game... people thought I had a lot of deals but then I was being told I was in deals that I never was...
Deals I made in the game:
Final three with Quin and SVS pre-game, and a side pact with DH
Final three with Opt and DH at Atamai, final five with LoRab and speedchuck
Final three with Opt and sorsha in the post-swap tribe
Then I gave LoRab a final three deal to slot in to DH's place come merge when he was gone
That was all the deals I made... it's a few, but I heard a lot more that I had apparently made.
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DH... he lied to me and to Quin. Same lie. Was INH even involved? DH, you are too corrupt and deceitful to ever trust.Golden wrote:LC, you seem to think you had an 'original five' deal with me. I had never even heard about such a thing until after you were gone. Someone was bullshitting you that I had allied with you.
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When I heard about that post-merge, I thought INH had come up with it. It's part of the reason I stopped trusting him.
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It was me this time Smiles aside, I can be a brute.Golden wrote:I never ripped your throat out. I never even lied to you once in the chat that day I was really trying to figure out how to get you to the end. I felt like I owed you for voting SVS out.Quin wrote:Golden, one day I promise you we'll play a game together where we don't rip each others throats out.
During our BTSC that night - I was fully prepared to put my faith in you. 100 percent. I thought 'this is someone I want to go to the end with - if he blindsides me, I'll be super pissed, but he'd probably wind up with my jury vote.' But then Opt came and convinced me and I changed my train of thought - blind faith wasn't enough. I thought 'you'd understand, but you'd most definitely be pissed'
I wasn't really happy with the decision I made then, but I thought it for the best.
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Oh interesting- did svs and quin not propose the final four to you that they did to me? That's where my pact with quin came from. Our final four that turned into final three once svs was out.Golden wrote:That's one of the funny things that happened in this game... people thought I had a lot of deals but then I was being told I was in deals that I never was...
Deals I made in the game:
Final three with Quin and SVS pre-game, and a side pact with DH
Final three with Opt and DH at Atamai, final five with LoRab and speedchuck
Final three with Opt and sorsha in the post-swap tribe
Then I gave LoRab a final three deal to slot in to DH's place come merge when he was gone
That was all the deals I made... it's a few, but I heard a lot more that I had apparently made.
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DH and I never spoke at all - in fact, you were the one who told me about the alliance. When you told me that there was a five, I didn't know what to do. I didn't trust it at all though.Long Con wrote:DH... he lied to me and to Quin. Same lie. Was INH even involved? DH, you are too corrupt and deceitful to ever trust.Golden wrote:LC, you seem to think you had an 'original five' deal with me. I had never even heard about such a thing until after you were gone. Someone was bullshitting you that I had allied with you.
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Initially, it was a 3 between Golden, SVS and myself. But once we got to the merge, Golden insisted we bring you into the fold, so that 3 really became a four. I'm glad it did.Opt_Outside wrote:Oh interesting- did svs and quin not propose the final four to you that they did to me? That's where my pact with quin came from. Our final four that turned into final three once svs was out.Golden wrote:That's one of the funny things that happened in this game... people thought I had a lot of deals but then I was being told I was in deals that I never was...
Deals I made in the game:
Final three with Quin and SVS pre-game, and a side pact with DH
Final three with Opt and DH at Atamai, final five with LoRab and speedchuck
Final three with Opt and sorsha in the post-swap tribe
Then I gave LoRab a final three deal to slot in to DH's place come merge when he was gone
That was all the deals I made... it's a few, but I heard a lot more that I had apparently made.
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Yes, I made that final four deal (and that was my intended real deal - with LoRab fifth), but in my mind that was just combining the deals I'd already made.Opt_Outside wrote:Oh interesting- did svs and quin not propose the final four to you that they did to me? That's where my pact with quin came from. Our final four that turned into final three once svs was out.Golden wrote:That's one of the funny things that happened in this game... people thought I had a lot of deals but then I was being told I was in deals that I never was...
Deals I made in the game:
Final three with Quin and SVS pre-game, and a side pact with DH
Final three with Opt and DH at Atamai, final five with LoRab and speedchuck
Final three with Opt and sorsha in the post-swap tribe
Then I gave LoRab a final three deal to slot in to DH's place come merge when he was gone
That was all the deals I made... it's a few, but I heard a lot more that I had apparently made.
Another thing that somehow did the rounds was that I wanted you to win. I was like - hell no, I want ME to win. I just thought you knew you were my ride or die!
I spent the last few days trying to figure out your motivation for voting me... was it that you thought I'd vote you out, or that you thought you'd lose to me, or that you thought I'd sway the jury for you. I never quite got the answer I wanted to that.
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Scotty, what was the deal with alibis? Did they ever have an impact?
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I needed parity. You had two, I needed two.Quin wrote:Initially, it was a 3 between Golden, SVS and myself. But once we got to the merge, Golden insisted we bring you into the fold, so that 3 really became a four. I'm glad it did.Opt_Outside wrote:Oh interesting- did svs and quin not propose the final four to you that they did to me? That's where my pact with quin came from. Our final four that turned into final three once svs was out.Golden wrote:That's one of the funny things that happened in this game... people thought I had a lot of deals but then I was being told I was in deals that I never was...
Deals I made in the game:
Final three with Quin and SVS pre-game, and a side pact with DH
Final three with Opt and DH at Atamai, final five with LoRab and speedchuck
Final three with Opt and sorsha in the post-swap tribe
Then I gave LoRab a final three deal to slot in to DH's place come merge when he was gone
That was all the deals I made... it's a few, but I heard a lot more that I had apparently made.
Anytime I made a deal with anyone, I said 'Opt's with me, she has to be included'.
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Quin wrote:DH and I never spoke at all - in fact, you were the one who told me about the alliance. When you told me that there was a five, I didn't know what to do. I didn't trust it at all though.Long Con wrote:DH... he lied to me and to Quin. Same lie. Was INH even involved? DH, you are too corrupt and deceitful to ever trust.Golden wrote:LC, you seem to think you had an 'original five' deal with me. I had never even heard about such a thing until after you were gone. Someone was bullshitting you that I had allied with you.
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It's okay. We're both victims here.Long Con wrote:Quin wrote:DH and I never spoke at all - in fact, you were the one who told me about the alliance. When you told me that there was a five, I didn't know what to do. I didn't trust it at all though.Long Con wrote:DH... he lied to me and to Quin. Same lie. Was INH even involved? DH, you are too corrupt and deceitful to ever trust.Golden wrote:LC, you seem to think you had an 'original five' deal with me. I had never even heard about such a thing until after you were gone. Someone was bullshitting you that I had allied with you.
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I really thought it cost you the game in the moment, but then somehow here you were at final 3.Quin wrote:I wasn't really happy with the decision I made then, but I thought it for the best.
I was like 'noooo Quin, I'm the only one who will have your back! I owe you one. That was a bad move!'.
But hey, I was wrong. You did just fine.
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It was kind of funny. I'd just told you about how there's no way Opt would bring me to the final 3 over you, and then out of nowhere she says to me 'let's vote out Golden' and go to the end together. It just felt really genuine, and maybe my paranoia was working against me, but you weren't.Golden wrote:I really thought it cost you the game in the moment, but then somehow here you were at final 3.Quin wrote:I wasn't really happy with the decision I made then, but I thought it for the best.
I was like 'noooo Quin, I'm the only one who will have your back! I owe you one. That was a bad move!'.
But hey, I was wrong. You did just fine.
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I learned a lot in this game- not only about hosting, but about balance.
One big mistake I made before the game even started was including the character list/breakdown before the roles were even sent out. That's what the alibis were originally for, but...ya know...that was basically useless with the list of player in the public domain from initial drafting of the game a few years ago.
In my testing, I tried to do my best of testing most of the challenge on people beforehand. There were some challenges that didn't get tested enough....like that Mud Wrestling challenge. That one fell flat IMO. You had a preordained moveset (8 total) and could either block or attack, and either way, it would balance itself out in the end. So it most literally relied on dice rolling.
As for dice rolling, I have to speak to the challenges- I did have a good handful of challenges that relied on luck, and would have liked to limit that considerably more. It's hard to design challenges that can take place over an entire day period and still be fair. I still err on the side of people making their own choices, with a fair amount of luck thrown in...just like real Survivor.
Then of course I had a small amount of typos in the challenges...and if they were there, LoRab would find them
I also learned I need to be clearer on many fronts when it comes to instructions.
Oh, and god help me I aint running two threads at once on my own any more. That shit is exhausting. And time consuming. I really lost some time to this little game this month.
All in all, I just hope everyone had as much fun as they could, and I'll say that my job was accomplished. I'm sorry that some of you may have felt ganged up on or uncomfortable with the cutthroat nature of this type of game, but I appreciate you giving it a shot and doing your best anyway. It means a lot.
One big mistake I made before the game even started was including the character list/breakdown before the roles were even sent out. That's what the alibis were originally for, but...ya know...that was basically useless with the list of player in the public domain from initial drafting of the game a few years ago.
In my testing, I tried to do my best of testing most of the challenge on people beforehand. There were some challenges that didn't get tested enough....like that Mud Wrestling challenge. That one fell flat IMO. You had a preordained moveset (8 total) and could either block or attack, and either way, it would balance itself out in the end. So it most literally relied on dice rolling.
As for dice rolling, I have to speak to the challenges- I did have a good handful of challenges that relied on luck, and would have liked to limit that considerably more. It's hard to design challenges that can take place over an entire day period and still be fair. I still err on the side of people making their own choices, with a fair amount of luck thrown in...just like real Survivor.
Then of course I had a small amount of typos in the challenges...and if they were there, LoRab would find them
I also learned I need to be clearer on many fronts when it comes to instructions.
Oh, and god help me I aint running two threads at once on my own any more. That shit is exhausting. And time consuming. I really lost some time to this little game this month.
All in all, I just hope everyone had as much fun as they could, and I'll say that my job was accomplished. I'm sorry that some of you may have felt ganged up on or uncomfortable with the cutthroat nature of this type of game, but I appreciate you giving it a shot and doing your best anyway. It means a lot.
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
not screaming like the people in his car
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What I really didn't expect was Sorsha blindsiding me though. I wasn't really a fan of her mindset towards the end, but I don't blame her for having it.
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It was probably 20% you'd vote me out, 80% I thought I'd lose to you. Then I sold quin and sorsha on whatever I could! But the vote for you came out of a huge place of respect for your game. Maybe the jury wouldn't have voted for you like you say, but I certainly would have! The whole time I could see you setting up and dropping hints on how you had orchestrated the big moves and I was like wow this guy is so goodGolden wrote:Yes, I made that final four deal (and that was my intended real deal - with LoRab fifth), but in my mind that was just combining the deals I'd already made.Opt_Outside wrote:Oh interesting- did svs and quin not propose the final four to you that they did to me? That's where my pact with quin came from. Our final four that turned into final three once svs was out.Golden wrote:That's one of the funny things that happened in this game... people thought I had a lot of deals but then I was being told I was in deals that I never was...
Deals I made in the game:
Final three with Quin and SVS pre-game, and a side pact with DH
Final three with Opt and DH at Atamai, final five with LoRab and speedchuck
Final three with Opt and sorsha in the post-swap tribe
Then I gave LoRab a final three deal to slot in to DH's place come merge when he was gone
That was all the deals I made... it's a few, but I heard a lot more that I had apparently made.
Another thing that somehow did the rounds was that I wanted you to win. I was like - hell no, I want ME to win. I just thought you knew you were my ride or die!
I spent the last few days trying to figure out your motivation for voting me... was it that you thought I'd vote you out, or that you thought you'd lose to me, or that you thought I'd sway the jury for you. I never quite got the answer I wanted to that.
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Hey, scotty...
Hosting is damn hard, and it certainly sucks massive amounts of time. But you did absolutely amazingly. Seriously, like you are going to get theme and hosting nominations for the sockys this year no doubt. It was an amazing, living the real thing experience. I cannot state that enough.
I'm sure DF will agree, however, that we've built enough shelters to last a while
Hosting is damn hard, and it certainly sucks massive amounts of time. But you did absolutely amazingly. Seriously, like you are going to get theme and hosting nominations for the sockys this year no doubt. It was an amazing, living the real thing experience. I cannot state that enough.
I'm sure DF will agree, however, that we've built enough shelters to last a while
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Don't forget it when it comes to mafia.Opt_Outside wrote:I was like wow this guy is so good
No-one should forget you're good either. This is not the last game you are going to dominate here.
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Wow, thanks for going to bat for me. I'm feeling shittier and shittier about voting for youGolden wrote:I needed parity. You had two, I needed two.Quin wrote:Initially, it was a 3 between Golden, SVS and myself. But once we got to the merge, Golden insisted we bring you into the fold, so that 3 really became a four. I'm glad it did.Opt_Outside wrote:Oh interesting- did svs and quin not propose the final four to you that they did to me? That's where my pact with quin came from. Our final four that turned into final three once svs was out.Golden wrote:That's one of the funny things that happened in this game... people thought I had a lot of deals but then I was being told I was in deals that I never was...
Deals I made in the game:
Final three with Quin and SVS pre-game, and a side pact with DH
Final three with Opt and DH at Atamai, final five with LoRab and speedchuck
Final three with Opt and sorsha in the post-swap tribe
Then I gave LoRab a final three deal to slot in to DH's place come merge when he was gone
That was all the deals I made... it's a few, but I heard a lot more that I had apparently made.
Anytime I made a deal with anyone, I said 'Opt's with me, she has to be included'.
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btw I'm accepting alliance requests for season 2 hmu
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Well, this is why I was genuinely baffled by your reasoning in the moment being that you thought I'd vote for you. I wasn't sure if you were lying or misreading me. There was no scenario in which I was ever voting you out.Opt_Outside wrote:Wow, thanks for going to bat for me.
Having said that, you shouldn't feel too bad... I was definitely planning on throwing you under the bus as being merely my +1 at final tribal and hoping that I hadn't alienated so many people that I would lose.
You know what I'm really bummed about? ASKING to be allocated the reward on the puzzle challenge at final 6...
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Too late, I've already made two final three deals.Quin wrote:btw I'm accepting alliance requests for season 2 hmu
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That surprised me too! It was a great move on her part though, had it workedQuin wrote:What I really didn't expect was Sorsha blindsiding me though. I wasn't really a fan of her mindset towards the end, but I don't blame her for having it.
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yeah, but I already have six idols.Golden wrote:Too late, I've already made two final three deals.Quin wrote:btw I'm accepting alliance requests for season 2 hmu
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Ha! Nothing I love seeing more than people who don't know Sorsha well yet.