MU Season 6 Scrimmage [GAME OVER]

[Jackofhearts2005]

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

I don't know speedchuck or his meta or whatever but he town read and defended him far too soon. Also switched his vote to a player who isn't active instead of pursuing DDL

This is up the wrong tree at best.

Speed didn’t need Jay to defend Speed from something that a bunch of players would think makes DDL look bad and doesn’t make Speed look bad.

wat

THIS IS UP THE WRONG TREE AT BEST!

SPEED DIDN’T NEED JAY TO DEFEND SPEED FROM SOMETHING THAT A BUNCH OF PLAYERS WOULD THINK MAKES DDL LOOK BAD AND DOESN’T MAKE SPEED LOOK BAD!

[novaselinenever]

I dig your Ultra stuff, Speed. I can see a baddie Ultra using me as a compass to navigate through early game. His prod for reads kind of felt iffy to me, like I was getting a vibe that he actually cared what those were lol.

um

why is it iffy for someone to care what your reads are and prod you accordingly

i am confused

It isn't necessarily, but on its own as a bland question it's the cheapest way to fake prodding and interest. With the way, he's navigating the game through me as a compass, it felt iffy like someone that didn't really care about the answer.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Gemma what are your own thoughts. I'm seeing a lot of questions but not a lot of answers.

more specific pls

Who are the wolves?

that is not more specific lol

idk who the wolves are

did that help you sort my alignment

Can’t say it did.

Did any of your questions and the answers you got help you sort anyone’s alignment?

a bit

my test subjects have not exactly been forthcoming with their answers

Give us the bit.

[novaselinenever]

Speed
Gemma <- here and above is light green

Jay <-here and below is orange
Ultra
DDL

Where am I?

[Ultra]

I dig your Ultra stuff, Speed. I can see a baddie Ultra using me as a compass to navigate through early game. His prod for reads kind of felt iffy to me, like I was getting a vibe that he actually cared what those were lol.

um

why is it iffy for someone to care what your reads are and prod you accordingly

i am confused

It isn't necessarily, but on its own as a bland question it's the cheapest way to fake prodding and interest. With the way, he's navigating the game through me as a compass, it felt iffy like someone that didn't really care about the answer.

Nova, I asked you for your reads because I was trying to see how serious your pushes are. I also haven't been doing, well, any of this.

[Ultra]

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

I don't know speedchuck or his meta or whatever but he town read and defended him far too soon. Also switched his vote to a player who isn't active instead of pursuing DDL

This is up the wrong tree at best.

Speed didn’t need Jay to defend Speed from something that a bunch of players would think makes DDL look bad and doesn’t make Speed look bad.

wat

THIS IS UP THE WRONG TREE AT BEST!

SPEED DIDN’T NEED JAY TO DEFEND SPEED FROM SOMETHING THAT A BUNCH OF PLAYERS WOULD THINK MAKES DDL LOOK BAD AND DOESN’T MAKE SPEED LOOK BAD!

Still don't quite understand, but I think you misinterpreted my vote so I'll elaborate again. JJJ made an opportunistic vote by voting a player who appeared to make a "bad vote". If speed is town, this is fairly wolfy, as otherwise he would not be so confident that the vote was bad.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Speed
Gemma <- here and above is light green

Jay <-here and below is orange
Ultra
DDL

Where am I?

[Jackofhearts2005]

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

I don't know speedchuck or his meta or whatever but he town read and defended him far too soon. Also switched his vote to a player who isn't active instead of pursuing DDL

This is up the wrong tree at best.

Speed didn’t need Jay to defend Speed from something that a bunch of players would think makes DDL look bad and doesn’t make Speed look bad.

wat

THIS IS UP THE WRONG TREE AT BEST!

SPEED DIDN’T NEED JAY TO DEFEND SPEED FROM SOMETHING THAT A BUNCH OF PLAYERS WOULD THINK MAKES DDL LOOK BAD AND DOESN’T MAKE SPEED LOOK BAD!

Still don't quite understand, but I think you misinterpreted my vote so I'll elaborate again. JJJ made an opportunistic vote by voting a player who appeared to make a "bad vote". If speed is town, this is fairly wolfy, as otherwise he would not be so confident that the vote was bad.

So Jay looks like he’s too confident DDL’s vote is wrong?

What do you think about my reaction to the Speed/DDL interaction? Or Nova’s?

[Gemma]

Gemma what are your own thoughts. I'm seeing a lot of questions but not a lot of answers.

more specific pls

2 scum reads, 2 town reads and why.

i was hoping for something like "i have this opinion about this thing, do you agree/disagree and why"

i don't really have any reads of the townread/scumread type rn sorry

you're all still just weird blobs to me

epig is a privileged blob

you're a blob of meta

v person is a blob with a hooded cloak watching me creepily from the sidelines

jjj is a blob of directionless energy

mac is a blob of cigarette ash

you all sure are an alignment

[Gemma]

oh, i thought jack person asked me that question

[Gemma]

Gemma what are your own thoughts. I'm seeing a lot of questions but not a lot of answers.

more specific pls

Who are the wolves?

that is not more specific lol

idk who the wolves are

did that help you sort my alignment

Can’t say it did.

Did any of your questions and the answers you got help you sort anyone’s alignment?

a bit

my test subjects have not exactly been forthcoming with their answers

Give us the bit.

got a better sense of what level novas is playing on

got a better sense of what level you are playing on

realized that i probably shouldn't interact with epig unless i'm the mood for being gaslight a bunch

i didn't actually ask that many questions

[speedchuck]

The whole no lynch thing is hilarious, and I'm more intrigued by DDL jumping on Speed than the latter making that claim. I took it as him messing around, 'cause I don't believe for a second that he's serious about it.

I can't say I'm a fan of you calling out the vote on DDL, nor throwing around fancy words like "chainsaw defense". Feels like over-compensating

If that was a bait post it's a pretty bad one. A player with low presence makes a very bad suggestion and then leaves. I can't reflexively blame someone for voting for that. I will blame a player for jumping on that player without explanation.

I thought it was pretty good. It might have worked even.

[Gemma]

I dig your Ultra stuff, Speed. I can see a baddie Ultra using me as a compass to navigate through early game. His prod for reads kind of felt iffy to me, like I was getting a vibe that he actually cared what those were lol.

um

why is it iffy for someone to care what your reads are and prod you accordingly

i am confused

It isn't necessarily, but on its own as a bland question it's the cheapest way to fake prodding and interest. With the way, he's navigating the game through me as a compass, it felt iffy like someone that didn't really care about the answer.

thank

you didn't negate the statement in your first quote, is why i was confused

[speedchuck]

[VOTE: Ultra] aubergine

did you forget that you were townreading that player

No. Because I'm not.

I have some town pings from them, but I mentioned something scummy as well. If it continues, their need to cling to and buddy Nova will easily outweigh any town cred they have.

can you explain how you got to the opinion that ultra is using nova as a clutch and how that makes him more likely to be mafia

At the time I'd posted that, 30-60% of ultra's content was about or directed at Nova, another 25% was filler. Leaving about 1/3 of their content at most directed at other players. And even that content was more 'about' them, very distanced reads, rather than addressing or prodding them.

It is my opinion that it makes them more likely mafia, as mafia often has more trouble being bold in the thread.

[Gemma]

do you all not have the powerwoof on this site

[speedchuck]

do you all not have the powerwoof on this site

Of course we do.

What is that?

[Jackofhearts2005]

The?

[Gemma]

it's ok we don't have it on dlp either really

makes things easier i guess

[speedchuck]

it's ok we don't have it on dlp either really

makes things easier i guess

Oy, dis bird's being cagey.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I kind of want to vote JJJ. I enjoy playing with him, and it has been awhile since we last played. But I also feel like I'm not quite yet seeing the Jay that I've seen before in 2 other games I played with him. Is that enough to go by? I don't know. Have I only seen his town game? I think so. Then again he might play different with a power role in hand, so maybe that's why he appears different. Or he could be generally busy, but I'm not suppose to make excuses for him. I'm just suppose to read what the thread gives me. Or maybe some games does Jay not get serious super early on? In my mind, it would be hard to maintain a talkative or inquisitive facade like every single game.

M Plus 7, also provided slank or "slang", so I know he's busy, but I still require more from him to really have a solid read on him. I have seen other players (not him) who are generally talkative people who provide slank but still end up posting through the roof as mostly town people; there were some scum outliers though.

Gemma's birds seem fine and fluffy. I like that she is in the thread and posting at least. Could use more content to go by, because the thread seems lacking of it.

Nova, I like so far. Not sure or can't remember if I read him correctly the last time we played together or maybe I was scum that game. Who knows? I guess I want longer content from him. It seems like a lot of his posts are a bit on the shorter side. That as general note seems a little suspicious or holding your thoughts too close to yourself.

I'll be gone for a lot of today unfortunately. I hope to be back on in 12 hours.

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine Right now, you are the most different to me. I suggest doing something to change my mind or find someone scummier. I hope to see some effort when i get back. (aka I wanted to play with you more, but I can't be your buddy if you are scum)

Not a fan of this post. I feel like attacking Jay/MP for lower than usual post volume is pretty shallow in terms of how much you can analyse someone. And from what I've seen recently you don't do swallow, you go pretty far in analysing people.

Heck, coming from you, I would have expected an essay on what the expressions on Gemma's bird's faces mean about her subconscious re: her alignment. Not that I'm demanding that, but point is, I'd expect you to use your little free time to do way more interesting things than what you're doing now.

[novaselinenever]

Gemma what are your own thoughts. I'm seeing a lot of questions but not a lot of answers.

more specific pls

2 scum reads, 2 town reads and why.

v person is a blob with a hooded cloak watching me creepily from the sidelines

[novaselinenever]

DDL what do you think of the interactions resulting from your vote.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Lol do I need to cite sources for you?

Sure. I don't need you to reference some exact post in the other game, but gimme a brief description of the parallel you're drawing regarding DDL.

In Addams Family, I voted Mac for basically no reason. DDL and Juliets (the mafia) jumped on this and voted me. DDL in particular posted some well poisoning bs along with it.

DDL was lynched for this. Juliets also went back and found plenty of examples of DDL random voting in the past, which made it look like his reaction to my random vote was bull in order to bus him.

Two key things are that this is about no lynch voting, not random voting. And also DDL would maybe be careful to not overextend himself again so soon as scum.

Not quite as locked in as I was thinking last night but it’s still a bad reaction to Speed’s vote. Like I don’t believe DDL thinks Speed is bad for voting no lynch.

Dragon D. Luffy have a go at it

Sometimes I overextend myself and sometimes I don't.

This has happened multiple times as both civ and scum.

I don't even know for sure if it happens more as civ or scum. It's just a way I deal with the game, I find a suspect and attack them until I realize I'm wrong, and the act of realizing I'm wrong takes a bit of effort every time, and may or may not be succesful. If I'm scum, I try to mimic that to varying results too.

I get Jack's point I just think the meta-based approach of it is flawed. Trying to figure out what I'm thinking in this particular game probably works better. Heck, if I got lynched in Addams and other games it was because people didnt think I was being genuine. Not because of meta.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

DDL what do you think of the interactions resulting from your vote.

I think speed feels civ.

I'm paranoid about anyone who defends me but that is normal.

And I think you are asking way too many questions. You are more aggressive when you are a civ,

[Dragon D. Luffy]

[VOTE: nova] aubergine

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Possibly, by you.

I don't need "possibly". What are you referring to?

Defend someone by attacking their accuser.

Since you're here elaborate on that vote

I think DDL got snagged by a booby trap. No lynches are horrendous, and I thought it looked evident that speedchuck wasn't serious in his recommendation.

Eh the thing is that I kind of see a reasoning for it. Na.ely this game has a bunch of cops and they all act in Night 1/2. So No Lynch would reduce the chance we lynch our own cops and hopefully give us a headstart in ability usage. It reminded me of the Jester Game we do in NF.

Of course the price we pay for that is a civ night kill, so I'm not entirely sure the move is profitable. Would like to see a discussion on it, though.

There is only ever one scenario to vote no lynch and Day 1 ain't it.

I just described a different game as an example but logical reasoning doesn't work with you, so I won't insist.

that's not very nice

You play a few games with him and you'll understand why I'm doing it.

H's a very rational person, but getting him to admit reason from other people is... complicated.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Gemma what are your own thoughts. I'm seeing a lot of questions but not a lot of answers.

This post is ironic consider what I just said about you.

[novaselinenever]

DDL what do you think of the interactions resulting from your vote.

I think speed feels civ.

I'm paranoid about anyone who defends me but that is normal.

And I think you are asking way too many questions. You are more aggressive when you are a civ,

[novaselinenever]

Gemma what are your own thoughts. I'm seeing a lot of questions but not a lot of answers.

This post is ironic consider what I just said about you.

I'm giving a lot of answer though. You're either not reading or full of shit.

[Luxurious]

are games here usually this slow

considering the length of the dayphase, i have concerns

Weird flex considering what you’ve done so far

[Luxurious]

I liked the vote but the comment afterwards just left a sour taste in my mouth

Which taste is stronger?

Probably town

[Luxurious]

Gemma posting a few one liners and bird memes, yet has concerns about activity

i am in the process of acclimatizing myself to the mood of this forum

if you are looking to me to serve as the benchmark for content this game, you are probably going to find yourself lost in a strange forest with a sunburn

also, one liners are more or less where i live

Hm

[Luxurious]

I kind of want to vote JJJ. I enjoy playing with him, and it has been awhile since we last played. But I also feel like I'm not quite yet seeing the Jay that I've seen before in 2 other games I played with him. Is that enough to go by? I don't know. Have I only seen his town game? I think so. Then again he might play different with a power role in hand, so maybe that's why he appears different. Or he could be generally busy, but I'm not suppose to make excuses for him. I'm just suppose to read what the thread gives me. Or maybe some games does Jay not get serious super early on? In my mind, it would be hard to maintain a talkative or inquisitive facade like every single game.

M Plus 7, also provided slank or "slang", so I know he's busy, but I still require more from him to really have a solid read on him. I have seen other players (not him) who are generally talkative people who provide slank but still end up posting through the roof as mostly town people; there were some scum outliers though.

Gemma's birds seem fine and fluffy. I like that she is in the thread and posting at least. Could use more content to go by, because the thread seems lacking of it.

Nova, I like so far. Not sure or can't remember if I read him correctly the last time we played together or maybe I was scum that game. Who knows? I guess I want longer content from him. It seems like a lot of his posts are a bit on the shorter side. That as general note seems a little suspicious or holding your thoughts too close to yourself.

I'll be gone for a lot of today unfortunately. I hope to be back on in 12 hours.

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine Right now, you are the most different to me. I suggest doing something to change my mind or find someone scummier. I hope to see some effort when i get back. (aka I wanted to play with you more, but I can't be your buddy if you are scum)

Owner/ Gemma

Thoughts

[Luxurious]

I think DDL trying to save face could be scummy but his later posting thereafter was like, fine.

Speed i want an answer to why you wanna no lynch right now.

JJJ’s town read is currently pending

While I’m looking at the votes

I think if mp7 is scum he’ll make it obvious day one. Still bitter about his bad play getting me killed :not_cool:

Tsaiah is a slanker and while i love her I dont expect her to post much at all? If she’s town she’ll also make it know SHOULD she post today.

I dont know gemma but stan does and I respect it. If all gemma does is bird post then I’m gonna take some offense as of right now idrc

Everyone else is gone to watch the new ep of game of thrones but i cant watch it until wednesday when i get to be angry about it all over again

Only one of these things is a stance, and that one is "pending". The DDL bit is close to a read, but the caveat cancels it. Meh.

The votes are in!!!!

Spoiler: show

You’re town

[Luxurious]

I’m not sure if it’s because I’ve played mafia the past couple times but this feels too easy? Maybe I’m underthinking things

[Luxurious]

Jack is town too

[Luxurious]

Gemma
Jackofhearts2005
novaselinenever
rundontwalk
speedchuck
Ultra

JessieKruger
Tsaiah

Dragomir
Dragon D. Luffy
Epignosis
Luxurious
M Plus 7
MacDougall
Owner
Soneji

Explain gemma to me

[MacDougall]

Gemma what are your own thoughts. I'm seeing a lot of questions but not a lot of answers.

more specific pls

2 scum reads, 2 town reads and why.

i was hoping for something like "i have this opinion about this thing, do you agree/disagree and why"

i don't really have any reads of the townread/scumread type rn sorry

you're all still just weird blobs to me

epig is a privileged blob

you're a blob of meta

v person is a blob with a hooded cloak watching me creepily from the sidelines

jjj is a blob of directionless energy

mac is a blob of cigarette ash

you all sure are an alignment

Oh wow you are like a parallel universe me

[MacDougall]

I have real concerns about the space time continuum you guise

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: DDL] aubergine

[MacDougall]

I have questions. They need answering. You're gonna answer my questions or else.

[MacDougall]

I’m not sure if it’s because I’ve played mafia the past couple times but this feels too easy? Maybe I’m underthinking things

Nah us syndicaters are plebs we just aren't elite like you

[MacDougall]

Gemma what are your own thoughts. I'm seeing a lot of questions but not a lot of answers.

This post is ironic consider what I just said about you.

I'm giving a lot of answer though. You're either not reading or full of shit.

Now kiss

[Luxurious]

I have questions. They need answering. You're gonna answer my questions or else.

The space time continuum aint gonna fix itself

[quote=Luxurious post_id=532498 time=<a href="tel:1556570668">1556570668</a> user_id=641]
I’m not sure if it’s because I’ve played mafia the past couple times but this feels too easy? Maybe I’m underthinking things

Nah us syndicaters are plebs we just aren't elite like you
[/quote]

[MacDougall]

Ha get a load of the nerd who can't even

[Luxurious]

Basically I voted you reflexively and now I'm trying to save face.

To add to Jack's above thoughts, DDL could have just voted as a disapproval and then moved on. A vote can be just as throwaway as the original line. But he's panicking, doubling down then retreating, trying to sound justified, etc.

I don't feel like I'm the authority on this, as I'm the one who baited the trap and might be biased, and DDL was the first to respond, but he definitely looks worst at first glance.

Okay speed you can be town too

[Luxurious]

Ha get a load of the nerd who can't even

I’ve never can’d or even’d in my life

[Luxurious]

Possibly, by you.

I don't need "possibly". What are you referring to?

Defend someone by attacking their accuser.

Since you're here elaborate on that vote

I think DDL got snagged by a booby trap. No lynches are horrendous, and I thought it looked evident that speedchuck wasn't serious in his recommendation.

Eh the thing is that I kind of see a reasoning for it. Na.ely this game has a bunch of cops and they all act in Night 1/2. So No Lynch would reduce the chance we lynch our own cops and hopefully give us a headstart in ability usage. It reminded me of the Jester Game we do in NF.

Of course the price we pay for that is a civ night kill, so I'm not entirely sure the move is profitable. Would like to see a discussion on it, though.

Mafia has odds of getting one of the cops

I would do the math but idk how many cops we have off the top of my head

So we lynch :pitchfork:

[MacDougall]

Basically I voted you reflexively and now I'm trying to save face.

To add to Jack's above thoughts, DDL could have just voted as a disapproval and then moved on. A vote can be just as throwaway as the original line. But he's panicking, doubling down then retreating, trying to sound justified, etc.

I don't feel like I'm the authority on this, as I'm the one who baited the trap and might be biased, and DDL was the first to respond, but he definitely looks worst at first glance.

Okay speed you can be town too

Can I join the club?

[Luxurious]

Basically I voted you reflexively and now I'm trying to save face.

To add to Jack's above thoughts, DDL could have just voted as a disapproval and then moved on. A vote can be just as throwaway as the original line. But he's panicking, doubling down then retreating, trying to sound justified, etc.

I don't feel like I'm the authority on this, as I'm the one who baited the trap and might be biased, and DDL was the first to respond, but he definitely looks worst at first glance.

Okay speed you can be town too

Can I join the club?

Only if you send an official application and give me at least 3 business days to process your application fee and then three months to process your actual application