The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:22 am**

[Mention]TonyStarkPrime [/mention] reads?

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:45 am**

AUBERGINE

[1] ColinIsCool - Epignosis
[5] nutella - MacDougall, gwilikers6, rundontwalk, dunya, ColinIsCool
[1] Dr. White - JaggedJimmyJay
[3] Epignosis - Kites, Marmot, Iron_Dwarf
[1] Marmot - Long Con
[1] rabbit8 - sig
[1] Kylemii - TonyStarkPrime
[1] lapluie - colonialbob
[1] TonyStarkPrime - Kenway
[1] Kenway - Dragon D. Luffy

No vote: Dr. White, DrWilgy, Kylemii, lapluie, nutella, Quin, rabbit8, sprityo

Just refreshing to new page. No changes since the last vote.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:48 am**

I killed the thread :o

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:51 am**

The thread awaits Tony's response.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:06 pm**

I’m happy with my Nutella vote but plan on ISOing her posts since she’s come under fire just in case my mind is changed at all.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:08 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:15 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:13 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:09 am Jfc Marmot has 113 posts. Am I the only one who has had their mind blown by that factoid?
Supatown marmots are rare species. They can only be seen one month a year, at the top of high mountains, during a specific combination of temperature and humidity. Tourist caravans have been formed to attempt to take photographs of those wondrous creatures. If you see one, please do not feed it, as it tend to reply with silly pics and quirky smileys when you do.
I'm more concerned that I can't remember a single post he made. He has managed to accrue a 3 page iso on day 1 while causing nary but a faint poo smell left in the air from where he farted and left the room.

Marmot would ordinarily have six votes on him by now. Wtf gives Marmot.

He made a few posts that striked me as very civ, and someone (don't remember) pointed that out and I agreed with them. Considering supatown Marmot is so rare, I'm willing to read him as civ.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:10 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:34 am Is there a potential civ reason for Epi lying about having a lynch switch?

Get people to react a certain way I suppose.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:28 pm**

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:06 pm I’m happy with my Nutella vote but plan on ISOing her posts since she’s come under fire just in case my mind is changed at all.

I interpret this as you were ok with voting for her, but are now less okay with it since she's the leading lynch wagon. I guess this is Day 1, but I'm not a fan of this post.

I do want to know, why does it matter that she's come under fire?

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:33 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:23 am- And the lynch manipulator issue, which can be explained by two possibilities. One, Epi is lying, and if so I want to see why. Probably linked to the exercise. Second, he is telling the truth, and if so, we are powerless to stop him. So I'll just ignore it, wait to see what he is cooking, and keep playing the game as if this wasn't a factor.

agreed

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:35 pm**

*sigh* so I was about to vote TSP because I don't like a lot of his posting and then I remembered the whole Shaman thing and now I don't want to vote for him anymore.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:38 pm**

Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:36 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:35 am
Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:32 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:17 am I'm on Page 34 and I hate the discussion about Epi's exercise. Hate it hate it hate it.

Can you guys be just a little patient and let him finish it so we can judge whether the results are good or not? If they are not you can vote for him all you want. But voting him now because you can't see the usefulness of something that has been advertized as having a hidden goal is moronic. Voting for him because he is risking being night killed is triple moronic. For all I know this exercise could end in day 1, when every active player answers it. Or he could be night killed, but then that means he was... a civ?

You don't lynch someone to prevent mafia from killing them, that's almost as bad as the idea that a civ has to resign themselves to get lynched.

If Epi is a wagon I will make whatever vote is necessary to prevent him from being lynched. Because right now my curiosity wants me to know how this exercise ends.
Epi's gambit just feels like unnecessary risk to me. Why are you so adamant on continuing with it? Just because you are curious?
Risk?

What does it risk?
Throwing away a really powerful ability on day 1 when we do not have any conclusive reads.

[mention]Iron_Dwarf[/mention] please explain why a lynch switch is such a powerful civ ability

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:39 pm**

Hi, I'm ten pages behind right now, and I don't know if I'll be reading them or not. I don't want my Pegasister to be lynched... as of ten pages ago, I felt like she was being railroaded by a few aggressive, high-posting players, and I am not that surprised to see the tally in the state that it's currently in for her.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:41 pm**

[mention]Kenway[/mention] what do you think about the argument for not voting TSP because of his shaman role?

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:48 pm**

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:41 pm @Kenway what do you think about the argument for not voting TSP because of his shaman role?

I don't know that argument, but here's my current take on it. He'll probably be nightkilled if he's a Civ. Why waste a lynch on him?

If he's bad, then he'll give us a string of Civ players, and those Civs will probably be nightkilled.

Any bad player he gives us is a huge advantage, right? So why not let him do that?

Note: I may be misinterpreting something in there, so feel free to correct any assumptions.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:49 pm**

Back to [VOTE: rabbit8] aubergine

I don't like either leading candidate so I'd rather at least potentially provide a third option.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:54 pm**

OhhhhhhHHHHHHHH but he's my OTHER Pegasister! Gah!

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:56 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:54 pm OhhhhhhHHHHHHHH but he's my OTHER Pegasister! Gah!

Convince me to move then?

Ain't votin marmot.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:03 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:39 pm Hi, I'm ten pages behind right now, and I don't know if I'll be reading them or not. I don't want my Pegasister to be lynched... as of ten pages ago, I felt like she was being railroaded by a few aggressive, high-posting players, and I am not that surprised to see the tally in the state that it's currently in for her.

actually I would appreciate if you'd at least scan the 10 pages a lot of stuff has happened that doesn't even involve Nutella, and i want your input since you have a lot of experience with epignosis.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:11 pm**

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:56 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:54 pm OhhhhhhHHHHHHHH but he's my OTHER Pegasister! Gah!
Convince me to move then?

Ain't votin marmot.

Yeah don't do that.

I'm supatown!!!

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:13 pm**

I'll try, me not reading wouldn't be because I don't want to, but because I don't have time. I will try to make time, I know everyone has a real life, I fell behind because of doing end game for Buffy Mafia last night. My experience with epignosis is probably best described as a hellish tunnel from which I cannot ever escaped.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:18 pm**

Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:00 pmLong Con - Feels like he's flipflopping a bit on his reads

I want you to elaborate.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:47 pm Also he implied that LC, Skyler and I aren't big fish and frankly that's diabloical. Lynch on sight.

I am not a big fish.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:19 pm**

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:22 am @TonyStarkPrime reads?

Dunya Town
JJJ scum
Epi ???
Colin null
Kyle Mafia but I can’t explain it
DDL maybe scum
Missing players scum
Nutella Town
Quin town
Kenway town
LongCon scumish

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:19 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:13 pm I'll try, me not reading wouldn't be because I don't want to, but because I don't have time. I will try to make time, I know everyone has a real life, I fell behind because of doing end game for Buffy Mafia last night. My experience with epignosis is probably best described as a hellish tunnel from which I cannot ever escaped.

*cannot ever escape

Voice-to-text error... posting while I do some farm chores. Brr!

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:22 pm**

So guys what is the case on Tony?

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:23 pm**

So I don't have to read a million posts.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:25 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:22 pm So guys what is the case on Tony?

His posting kinda sucks (lots of questions, no real reads, that stupid PM thing). The counter-argument is that he's Shaman, which is very difficult to fake because he publicly reveals roles, and is a role we don't want to lose.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:29 pm**

Ok.

First thing

[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention] what are your thoughts on Kyle?

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:32 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:28 pm
gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:06 pm I’m happy with my Nutella vote but plan on ISOing her posts since she’s come under fire just in case my mind is changed at all.
I interpret this as you were ok with voting for her, but are now less okay with it since she's the leading lynch wagon. I guess this is Day 1, but I'm not a fan of this post.

I do want to know, why does it matter that she's come under fire?

Nah, still very ok with it. It does not matter that she’s under fire. I made an ISO post on her with the intention of getting her under fire. But I’m always open for a townie to convince me otherwise if she actually is town, and I can’t glanced through all the posts in the thread but can’t say I’ve read through everything in detail.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:35 pm**

Next, I made a quick ISO on TSP and I still think he looks better than Quin, Kenway or Kites (I guess he ties with Kites).

Can see myself voting for either of those 4 names.

So right now my algorithm for the lynch:

1- Save Epignosis
2- If Epignosis if safe, lynch one of the four above.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:36 pm**

Are you guys ready for the fireworks?

Here's a warmup. Fireworks-themed rainbow list.

dunya
ColinIsCool Dr. White JaggedJimmyJay Kenway Kites MacDougall rabbit8 TonyStarkPrime
colonialbob Dragon D. Luffy Iron_Dwarf Kylemii lapluie Long Con nutella Quin rundontwalk
DrWilgy Epignosis gwilikers6 sig sprityo

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:40 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:36 pm Are you guys ready for the fireworks?

Here's a warmup. Fireworks-themed rainbow list.

dunya

ColinIsCool
Dr. White
JaggedJimmyJay
Kenway
Kites
MacDougall
rabbit8
TonyStarkPrime

colonialbob
Dragon D. Luffy
Iron_Dwarf
Kylemii
lapluie
Long Con
nutella
Quin
rundontwalk

DrWilgy
Epignosis
gwilikers6
sig
sprityo

You've mistakenly put me in yellow

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:42 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:35 pm Next, I made a quick ISO on TSP and I still think he looks better than Quin, Kenway or Kites (I guess he ties with Kites).

Can see myself voting for either of those 4 names.

So right now my algorithm for the lynch:

1- Save Epignosis
2- If Epignosis if safe, lynch one of the four above.

Okay let's make things fun

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:43 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:35 pm Next, I made a quick ISO on TSP and I still think he looks better than Quin, Kenway or Kites (I guess he ties with Kites).

Can see myself voting for either of those 4 names.

So right now my algorithm for the lynch:

1- Save Epignosis
2- If Epignosis if safe, lynch one of the four above.

Pick one?

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:44 pm**

AUBERGINE

UNVOTE Nutella

[VOTE: epignosis] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:52 pm**

I feel like lynch of Nutella is happening to easily

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:54 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:04 amKenway to me is like what Glorf is to Syndicators. Let that sink in.

is this to say he's often easy to read because of arbitrary self-imposed moral ruleset, or something else?

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:54 pm**

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:43 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:35 pm Next, I made a quick ISO on TSP and I still think he looks better than Quin, Kenway or Kites (I guess he ties with Kites).

Can see myself voting for either of those 4 names.

So right now my algorithm for the lynch:

1- Save Epignosis
2- If Epignosis if safe, lynch one of the four above.
Pick one?

I already did. My vote is on kenway.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:01 pm**

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:52 pm I feel like lynch of Nutella is happening to easily

I feel the sane about the lynch of Epi.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:03 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:01 pm
rundontwalk wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:52 pm I feel like lynch of Nutella is happening to easily
I feel the sane about the lynch of Epi.

I'm glad you've been able to acknowledge our sound minds in this decision.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:04 pm**

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:40 pm You've mistakenly put me in yellow

Why is this a mistake?

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:04 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:01 pm
rundontwalk wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:52 pm I feel like lynch of Nutella is happening to easily
I feel the sane about the lynch of Epi.

Then save him.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:05 pm**

what do the votes look like right now

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:08 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:05 pm what do the votes look like right now

I think Epi and Nutella are tied.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:11 pm**

AUBERGINE

[4] Epignosis - Kites, Marmot, Iron_Dwarf, rundontwalk
[4] nutella - MacDougall, gwilikers6, dunya, ColinIsCool
[2] rabbit8 - sig, colonialBob
[1] ColinIsCool - Epignosis
[1] Dr. White - JaggedJimmyJay
[1] Marmot - Long Con
[1] Kylemii - TonyStarkPrime
[1] TonyStarkPrime - Kenway
[1] Kenway - Dragon D. Luffy

No vote: Dr. White, DrWilgy, Kylemii, lapluie, nutella, Quin, rabbit8, sprityo

I think that Epignosis has the lead, despite he and nutella reaching 4 votes at the exact same moment with rdw moving from nutella to Epignosis.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:12 pm**

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:04 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:01 pm
rundontwalk wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:52 pm I feel like lynch of Nutella is happening to easily
I feel the sane about the lynch of Epi.
Then save him.

Still have 1:37

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:13 pm**

Actually I don't want to lynch either of them.

[VOTE: rabbit8] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:15 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:56 am What is weird about rabbit being AWOL?

I figure it's indicative of him being a civilian, in that he wouldn't bail on a mafia team like that, especially a mafia team that he would have hand-selected, or was hand-selected for.

This is why I don't think we should lynch rabbit.

Why not DrWilgy? Or lapluie?

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:15 pm**

Holy shit guys.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:16 pm**

I think you people seriously underestimate the ability of people to bail from mafia games.

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:16 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:15 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:56 am What is weird about rabbit being AWOL?

I figure it's indicative of him being a civilian, in that he wouldn't bail on a mafia team like that, especially a mafia team that he would have hand-selected, or was hand-selected for.
This is why I don't think we should lynch rabbit.

Why not DrWilgy? Or lapluie?

What's weird about me being awol?

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