The Syndicate

Say we eliminate the lemons today, does Chicks get to kill tonight instead?

FZ. wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

FZ. wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:I'm not sure it's possible that fingersplints is bad. Well it is possible. Let's see if I can explain this.

Original Splints got killed by Chick. Now if she was bad, would she be asked to replace Kate? Well yes she would obviously, but only if Kate was also bad on the same team.

I'm not sure I follow. Splints could have been good in her first round. She could be bad now. It doesn't matter. If she was bad last round, the only way she could replace Kate is if she's bad now too. So I see nothing preventing her from being a baddie now

Your right. I was talking absolute rubbish, or garbage as you say in the States.

I'm not from the States so it doesn't matter to me

Right now, the two people that I'm most concerned about are Splints and DF.
DF, who do you think is a lemon, and why?
Same question for Splints.

And since the LC theory doesn't hold water in my opinion, if you're going to say LC, please address my thoughts on why he is least likely to be a lemon

I do agree that Splints is a possibility, but I also am unclear about you, FZ. Is there a compelling reason to believe that you are civvie?

DFaraday wrote:

FZ. wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

FZ. wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:I'm not sure it's possible that fingersplints is bad. Well it is possible. Let's see if I can explain this.

Original Splints got killed by Chick. Now if she was bad, would she be asked to replace Kate? Well yes she would obviously, but only if Kate was also bad on the same team.

I'm not sure I follow. Splints could have been good in her first round. She could be bad now. It doesn't matter. If she was bad last round, the only way she could replace Kate is if she's bad now too. So I see nothing preventing her from being a baddie now

Your right. I was talking absolute rubbish, or garbage as you say in the States.

I'm not from the States so it doesn't matter to me

Right now, the two people that I'm most concerned about are Splints and DF.
DF, who do you think is a lemon, and why?
Same question for Splints.

And since the LC theory doesn't hold water in my opinion, if you're going to say LC, please address my thoughts on why he is least likely to be a lemon

I do agree that Splints is a possibility, but I also am unclear about you, FZ. Is there a compelling reason to believe that you are civvie?

So you're suspicion of LC has vanished?
And no, no compelling reason. Not my job to prove I'm a civ. If you think I'm not, then by all means, convince the rest. You're running out of options. It was only natural that you'll get to me

Is there a case on FZ you have in mind, DFaraday? I'd be interested to hear it.

I'm going to sleep. I'm okay with voting either Splints or DF, so since there's a vote on Splints already, I'll join

FZ. wrote:

DFaraday wrote:

FZ. wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

FZ. wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:I'm not sure it's possible that fingersplints is bad. Well it is possible. Let's see if I can explain this.

Original Splints got killed by Chick. Now if she was bad, would she be asked to replace Kate? Well yes she would obviously, but only if Kate was also bad on the same team.

I'm not sure I follow. Splints could have been good in her first round. She could be bad now. It doesn't matter. If she was bad last round, the only way she could replace Kate is if she's bad now too. So I see nothing preventing her from being a baddie now

Your right. I was talking absolute rubbish, or garbage as you say in the States.

I'm not from the States so it doesn't matter to me

Right now, the two people that I'm most concerned about are Splints and DF.
DF, who do you think is a lemon, and why?
Same question for Splints.

And since the LC theory doesn't hold water in my opinion, if you're going to say LC, please address my thoughts on why he is least likely to be a lemon

I do agree that Splints is a possibility, but I also am unclear about you, FZ. Is there a compelling reason to believe that you are civvie?

So you're suspicion of LC has vanished?
And no, no compelling reason. Not my job to prove I'm a civ. If you think I'm not, then by all means, convince the rest. You're running out of options. It was only natural that you'll get to me

I don't have a unified case per se on you, but I get the distinct impression that you've been jumping all over the place with your suspicions lately, to the point where I find it hard to pin down your thoughts on anything. Since Night 8 you have:

Gone from questioning others for suspecting me to placing me at the top of your list with little discernible reason.
Gone from thinking Splints is likely not on MR's team to thinking she is either the last Lemon or Chick.
Shifted from suspecting Tink to taking her civvieness for granted.

The voting record doesn't say much about you either way, I think, so I'd actually rate you more likely to be a lemon than Splints, since at least she cast the deciding vote.

EBWOP: Well, better her than me.

Thoughts MM?

If FZ is bad she is playing a very good game imo. I do not rule out the notion she could be bad. I have been fooled like this before In Thomas the Tank Engine.

The possibility worries me as a matter of fact.

Snow Dog wrote:If FZ is bad she is playing a very good game imo. I do not rule out the notion she could be bad. I have been fooled like this before In Thomas the Tank Engine.

The possibility worries me as a matter of fact.

Snow Dog, you should vote for Long Con because he is bad. Don't vote for FZ.

Tink wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:If FZ is bad she is playing a very good game imo. I do not rule out the notion she could be bad. I have been fooled like this before In Thomas the Tank Engine.

The possibility worries me as a matter of fact.

Snow Dog, you should vote for Long Con because he is bad. Don't vote for FZ.

I'll not vote for FZ. How sure are you about LC?

From who I trust, all that remains is LC, DF and Splints.

I am not convinced that there is only one lemon left. These three are all bad possibly.

Snow Dog wrote:

Tink wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:If FZ is bad she is playing a very good game imo. I do not rule out the notion she could be bad. I have been fooled like this before In Thomas the Tank Engine.

The possibility worries me as a matter of fact.

Snow Dog, you should vote for Long Con because he is bad. Don't vote for FZ.

I'll not vote for FZ. How sure are you about LC?

Someone I trust thought he was bad.

Tink wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Tink wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:If FZ is bad she is playing a very good game imo. I do not rule out the notion she could be bad. I have been fooled like this before In Thomas the Tank Engine.

The possibility worries me as a matter of fact.

Snow Dog, you should vote for Long Con because he is bad. Don't vote for FZ.

I'll not vote for FZ. How sure are you about LC?

Someone I trust thought he was bad.

Sorry, that isn't quite enough for me. What are your thoughts on Faraday and splints?

I'm voting FZ for now and hoping I will make it back before the poll closes.

I'm telling you Splints is the way to go. I just know it. I'm more convinced than ever now. She hasn't even come in to fight.

Snow Dog wrote:

Tink wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Tink wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:If FZ is bad she is playing a very good game imo. I do not rule out the notion she could be bad. I have been fooled like this before In Thomas the Tank Engine.

The possibility worries me as a matter of fact.

Snow Dog, you should vote for Long Con because he is bad. Don't vote for FZ.

I'll not vote for FZ. How sure are you about LC?

Someone I trust thought he was bad.

Sorry, that isn't quite enough for me. What are your thoughts on Faraday and splints?

I think DFarday is bad, but I think fingersplints is good. If you think fingersplints is bad, then I don't trust you.

Tink wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Tink wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Tink wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:If FZ is bad she is playing a very good game imo. I do not rule out the notion she could be bad. I have been fooled like this before In Thomas the Tank Engine.

The possibility worries me as a matter of fact.

Snow Dog, you should vote for Long Con because he is bad. Don't vote for FZ.

I'll not vote for FZ. How sure are you about LC?

Someone I trust thought he was bad.

Sorry, that isn't quite enough for me. What are your thoughts on Faraday and splints?

I think DFarday is bad, but I think fingersplints is good. If you think fingersplints is bad, then I don't trust you.

What an odd thing to say!

You don't think Splints is bad DF?

No answers and no time, need to sleep, voted splints.

Snow Dog wrote:Thoughts MM?

Sorry, I've been rather busy, but I've got free time tomorrow to discuss.

I'm voting fingers. I'm still wary of LC, but fingers looks like the only choice right now.

Ahem...who bumped off Dom?

Poll ended at Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:59 pm

Black Rock
0
No votes

DFaraday
0
No votes

fingersplints
4
Black Rock (3), FZ. (6), Snow Dog (9), Metalmarsh89 (10)
40%

FZ.
1
DFaraday (8)
10%

Long Con
1
Tink (7)
10%

MetalMarsh89
0
No votes

Snow Dog
0
No votes

Tink
0
No votes

Jack Ingram #11 (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
4
Epignosis (1), S~V~S (2), MovingPictures07 (4), Roxy (5)
40%


Total votes : 10

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Tink wrote: I think DFarday is bad, but I think fingersplints is good. If you think fingersplints is bad, then I don't trust you.

Epignosis wrote:

fingersplints has been lynched. She was Professor Z.

Was there a reason you trusted her?

Sorry I missed the vote guys, I had to work tonight and forgot to vote early. I would have voted fingersplints, and I'm not surprised she was a baddie!

Good call, Splints voters! But Epi didn't say that the Lemons were eliminated, so I'd guess we've still got Chick and one Lemon to go.

Long Con wrote:Sorry I missed the vote guys, I had to work tonight and forgot to vote early. I would have voted fingersplints, and I'm not surprised she was a baddie!

Same story here, just happened to get home in time to vote.

Yes!!! http://www.millan.net/minimations/smile ... ncsmil.gif

Oops, didn't mean to add the link there...

Too bad this isn't the end of the of the lemons. Now I really want to know what "rewires" in professor z's role, means.

DF not voting for Splints is weird. If he's the other lemon, it makes sense. If he's Chicks, why not vote with the civvies to look good? Either way, he's not looking good at this point.

Some questions:

1. Are we sure that Tink is what we think she is?

2. Does LC miss lynches like that, when they are so important? Is it out of the ordinary for him or an occurring thing?

Congratulations FZ and BR. I was worried about this lynch.

Yes, DF's vote pinged me. He avoided LC and Splints to vote on a "no case" against you.

Black Rock wrote:I'm telling you Splints is the way to go. I just know it. I'm more convinced than ever now. She hasn't even come in to fight.

there is nothing to fight against. because of all the info dropping and role claiming I have to be bad. it's wrong, but there isn't much I can say to defend myself.

fingersplints wrote:

Black Rock wrote:I'm telling you Splints is the way to go. I just know it. I'm more convinced than ever now. She hasn't even come in to fight.

there is nothing to fight against. because of all the info dropping and role claiming I have to be bad. it's wrong, but there isn't much I can say to defend myself.

If we have played unfairly then I am sorry. I had no warning from the host to that effect.

fingersplints wrote:

Black Rock wrote:I'm telling you Splints is the way to go. I just know it. I'm more convinced than ever now. She hasn't even come in to fight.

there is nothing to fight against. because of all the info dropping and role claiming I have to be bad. it's wrong, but there isn't much I can say to defend myself.

Who is info-dropping and role-claiming? (Yes I know you're dead). It's rather obvious that BR is Lizzie now, and not because she said so.

And based on her role, she could not have information on you anyway.

FZ. wrote: DF not voting for Splints is weird. If he's the other lemon, it makes sense. If he's Chicks, why not vote with the civvies to look good? Either way, he's not looking good at this point.

I don't follow the second half of your reasoning. You're saying if I were Chick, I would vote for Splints, but since I didn't vote for Splints, I'm looking more like Chick?

I voted FZ because I found her more suspicious than Splints, as I stated earlier. If voting my suspicions instead of bandwagoning is suspicious, so be it. Also, SD, when there are only 8 players left, I don't think any vote can be said to be a "no vote".

DFaraday wrote:

FZ. wrote: DF not voting for Splints is weird. If he's the other lemon, it makes sense. If he's Chicks, why not vote with the civvies to look good? Either way, he's not looking good at this point.

I don't follow the second half of your reasoning. You're saying if I were Chick, I would vote for Splints, but since I didn't vote for Splints, I'm looking more like Chick?

I voted FZ because I found her more suspicious than Splints, as I stated earlier. If voting my suspicions instead of bandwagoning is suspicious, so be it. Also, SD, when there are only 8 players left, I don't think any vote can be said to be a "no vote".

I agree that FZ's logic there is inconsistent.

What do you suspect of FZ? Do you think she is a lemon or Chick?

fingersplints wrote:

Black Rock wrote:I'm telling you Splints is the way to go. I just know it. I'm more convinced than ever now. She hasn't even come in to fight.

there is nothing to fight against. because of all the info dropping and role claiming I have to be bad. it's wrong, but there isn't much I can say to defend myself.

I actually think it was mostly bad luck for the baddies that the people who weren't killed are those with roles like Lizzie (and the fact they didn't killed those who are allegedly sure civvies) . And I agree that it was clear from what happened that lynch and not because she hinted.

Anyway, I'm sorry you're not going to play any time soon. I hope it's stronger than you and you can't stay away I enjoy playing with you a lot

DFaraday wrote:

FZ. wrote: DF not voting for Splints is weird. If he's the other lemon, it makes sense. If he's Chicks, why not vote with the civvies to look good? Either way, he's not looking good at this point.

I don't follow the second half of your reasoning. You're saying if I were Chick, I would vote for Splints, but since I didn't vote for Splints, I'm looking more like Chick?

I voted FZ because I found her more suspicious than Splints, as I stated earlier. If voting my suspicions instead of bandwagoning is suspicious, so be it. Also, SD, when there are only 8 players left, I don't think any vote can be said to be a "no vote".

What I meant is, even though I don't understand the second part, I find you suspicious. We've just seen Splints, cast the deciding vote on a teammate's lynch, so the fact that I would expect someone as Chicks to vote with the civvies, means nothing. Moreover, if Chicks really thought Splints was bad and the last one of them, I'm not sure he would have wanted her out at that point (unless he gets their kills, which is a question I asked and got no answer for)

FZ. wrote:

DFaraday wrote:

FZ. wrote: DF not voting for Splints is weird. If he's the other lemon, it makes sense. If he's Chicks, why not vote with the civvies to look good? Either way, he's not looking good at this point.

I don't follow the second half of your reasoning. You're saying if I were Chick, I would vote for Splints, but since I didn't vote for Splints, I'm looking more like Chick?

I voted FZ because I found her more suspicious than Splints, as I stated earlier. If voting my suspicions instead of bandwagoning is suspicious, so be it. Also, SD, when there are only 8 players left, I don't think any vote can be said to be a "no vote".

What I meant is, even though I don't understand the second part, I find you suspicious. We've just seen Splints, cast the deciding vote on a teammate's lynch, so the fact that I would expect someone as Chicks to vote with the civvies, means nothing. Moreover, if Chicks really thought Splints was bad and the last one of them, I'm not sure he would have wanted her out at that point (unless he gets their kills, which is a question I asked and got no answer for)

If I were an SK, I'd want to take out the bad team, if for no other reason than they wouldn't be able to NK me. Since a few people missed the vote, I'm not sure if Chick even voted anyway.

MM, I think FZ would make more sense as Chick than a Lemon, given her throw-everything-at-the-wall style and the fact that she voted early for Splints. Then again, the Lemons' voting patterns have been pretty weird anyway.

Crazy question:
Have baddies ever NK one of their own, hoping that person would get resurrected? Because BWT was killed the second night the lemons had a chance (after failing with MP or DF), and a resurrecting civ wouldn't take a chance on someone killed by Chicks, so there's a high chance that civ would choose BWT, not wanting to risk being lynched or NK before resurrecting. Seeing that BWT wanted to be replaced, maybe they decided to take a chance and if he got resurrected, it would make him look like the epitome of civviness, and then, he could ask to be replaced.

How crazy does that sound? And has it ever been done? Keep in mind that MM was the last to vote for Splints, when it was obvious she was going to be the one lynched.

A risky strategy. I wouldn't. Who is to say who will be resurrected?

Snow Dog wrote:A risky strategy. I wouldn't. Who is to say who will be resurrected?

The risk is not that high. If you have that role, and you know that you can be NK any minute, you want to help the civvies as much as you can, so you use your power as soon as you can.
Maybe it is far fetched, but I just don't get why they didn't kill you or MM yet. Makes no sense. If one of you is bad, it makes more sense...

Snow Dog, I'm going to give you the vote, just in case it's something that might help the civvies, and I see everyone is voting for themselves, so there's going to be a tie and I don't know what will happen. You better not be recruited

FZ. wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:A risky strategy. I wouldn't. Who is to say who will be resurrected?

The risk is not that high. If you have that role, and you know that you can be NK any minute, you want to help the civvies as much as you can, so you use your power as soon as you can.
Maybe it is far fetched, but I just don't get why they didn't kill you or MM yet. Makes no sense. If one of you is bad, it makes more sense...

I am just as surprised as you I am nor dead yet...maybe tonight?

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Goodbye FingerZ!

I think Metalmarsh is Miles Axlerod.

Who can show them the way?

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Black Rock
0
No votes

DFaraday
1
DFaraday (4)
11%

FZ.
0
No votes

Long Con
1
Long Con (3)
11%

MetalMarsh89
2
Metalmarsh89 (6), Tink (9)
22%

Snow Dog
2
FZ. (7), Snow Dog (8)
22%

Tink
0
No votes

Peter Frampton (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
3
Epignosis (1), MovingPictures07 (2), Roxy (5)
33%


Total votes : 9

Wow, this night ended early. I was just coming in to say that I thought we should look more at Tink today.

As it stands right now, I believe there are two baddies left. BR is pretty likely to be Lizzy, so I feel pretty good about her, but the fact that there may have been a recruit does make me think we should look at the seemingly confirmed civvies' voting records as well. The Night Post said Miles, but I'm wondering if there was a recruit.

Hosts: Are the Lemon's kills written as including the character whose player is doing the kill, or is that part done for storytelling effect?

FZ. wrote:Crazy question:
Have baddies ever NK one of their own, hoping that person would get resurrected? Because BWT was killed the second night the lemons had a chance (after failing with MP or DF), and a resurrecting civ wouldn't take a chance on someone killed by Chicks, so there's a high chance that civ would choose BWT, not wanting to risk being lynched or NK before resurrecting. Seeing that BWT wanted to be replaced, maybe they decided to take a chance and if he got resurrected, it would make him look like the epitome of civviness, and then, he could ask to be replaced.

How crazy does that sound? And has it ever been done? Keep in mind that MM was the last to vote for Splints, when it was obvious she was going to be the one lynched.

I do think it is pretty far-fetched. Not impossible, but it did not happen.

Linki: now that Tink is dead, I think she was Mr. the King.