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Are you ok with the unrecruited dead replacing?

Poll ended at Fri Aug 28, 2015 9:36 pm

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Post by Black Rock » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:36 pm

Only one question...
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Post by Golden » Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:35 am

Do the unrecruited dead get a vote? :p
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Post by JaggedJimmyJay » Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:20 pm

Ranked by how preferable they'd be, most preferable to least:

1. Replacement is someone new

2. Replacement is a dead unrecruitee

3. Modkill
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Post by Turnip Head » Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:22 pm

I'm fine with dead unrecruited players subbing back in if it can't be avoided, BUT I think their original role should be revealed to the entire thread so everyone has equal info.
I've only won a couple games tbh

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Post by nutella » Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:28 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Ranked by how preferable they'd be, most preferable to least:

1. Replacement is someone new

2. Replacement is a dead unrecruitee

3. Modkill
Yeah I definitely prefer dead replacement over modkilling. I'm not super 100% opposed to dead replacement if it's the only option but I prefer that it be avoided if possible.
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Post by aapje » Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:46 pm

Voted no because this game is hard enough to keep up with as is. I am going to rank modkill as my preferred option.
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Post by MovingPictures07 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:46 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Ranked by how preferable they'd be, most preferable to least:

1. Replacement is someone new

2. Replacement is a dead unrecruitee

3. Modkill
Turnip Head wrote:I'm fine with dead unrecruited players subbing back in if it can't be avoided, BUT I think their original role should be revealed to the entire thread so everyone has equal info.
I echo both of these sentiments exactly.

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Post by Black Rock » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:27 pm

Thank you for all your input. We have been trying to avoid using a dead player. I have no problem putting the lynched players before night killed players and I also have no problem revealing the players old role if it has not. Right now I only need one replacement so it shouldn't kill the game. I prefer not to mod kill my roles. It hurts my heart much too much.
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Post by Spacedaisy » Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:14 am

Turnip Head wrote:I'm fine with dead unrecruited players subbing back in if it can't be avoided, BUT I think their original role should be revealed to the entire thread so everyone has equal info.
This, but I would prefer a regular replacement first.

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Post by Marmot » Sat Aug 29, 2015 6:59 pm

What about dead unrecruited players replacing back in as sock puppets?
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Post by Long Con » Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:17 am

Metalmarsh89 wrote:What about dead unrecruited players replacing back in as sock puppets?
A strange concept, not one we have been considering as far as I know.
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Post by Marmot » Sun Aug 30, 2015 2:01 am

Long Con wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:What about dead unrecruited players replacing back in as sock puppets?
A strange concept, not one we have been considering as far as I know.
Not one I've seen before either. Theoretically, it would hide the identity of the replacer, but I guess that might might not be necessary.
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Post by Golden » Sun Aug 30, 2015 3:12 am

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:What about dead unrecruited players replacing back in as sock puppets?
A strange concept, not one we have been considering as far as I know.
Not one I've seen before either. Theoretically, it would hide the identity of the replacer, but I guess that might might not be necessary.
Did you stop watching Roger Rabbit? I won that game as a dead player subbing in as a sock puppet.

Still, in that game everyone knew it was a dead player subbing in, I think I won a contest. I think people would actually prefer it to know who is subbing in.
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Post by S~V~S » Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:39 am

For me it is also a question of fairness. I have dead subbed, and unless one changes affiliation totally, you can't help but bring your prejudices from your first life back into the game. The only times i was able to start with a clean slate was in a game like BoB, where I totally changed affiliation upon return, and therefore HAD to lose the preconceived notions about who was who behind me.

Modkilling is hard, especially so, I would imagine, for Black Rock who has back stories for ALL if these roles, like they are her kids or pets or proteges. She loves them. So unless we do some heavy recruiting for a game like this (Hey Bea, get BDH in here) dead subbing is a necessary evil.
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Post by Marmot » Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:10 am

Golden wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:What about dead unrecruited players replacing back in as sock puppets?
A strange concept, not one we have been considering as far as I know.
Not one I've seen before either. Theoretically, it would hide the identity of the replacer, but I guess that might might not be necessary.
Did you stop watching Roger Rabbit? I won that game as a dead player subbing in as a sock puppet.

Still, in that game everyone knew it was a dead player subbing in, I think I won a contest. I think people would actually prefer it to know who is subbing in.
That's where I got the idea from. But yes, yours was a little different in that you were more accurately "rezzed" rather than "replacing" another player.
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Post by Long Con » Sun Aug 30, 2015 12:04 pm

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Golden wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:What about dead unrecruited players replacing back in as sock puppets?
A strange concept, not one we have been considering as far as I know.
Not one I've seen before either. Theoretically, it would hide the identity of the replacer, but I guess that might might not be necessary.
Did you stop watching Roger Rabbit? I won that game as a dead player subbing in as a sock puppet.

Still, in that game everyone knew it was a dead player subbing in, I think I won a contest. I think people would actually prefer it to know who is subbing in.
That's where I got the idea from. But yes, yours was a little different in that you were more accurately "rezzed" rather than "replacing" another player.
True, that was a rez into a sock, but I had forgotten about Lena Hyena! :haha: Good times.
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Post by Black Rock » Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:27 pm

S~V~S wrote:For me it is also a question of fairness. I have dead subbed, and unless one changes affiliation totally, you can't help but bring your prejudices from your first life back into the game. The only times i was able to start with a clean slate was in a game like BoB, where I totally changed affiliation upon return, and therefore HAD to lose the preconceived notions about who was who behind me.

Modkilling is hard, especially so, I would imagine, for Black Rock who has back stories for ALL if these roles, like they are her kids or pets or proteges. She loves them. So unless we do some heavy recruiting for a game like this (Hey Bea, get BDH in here) dead subbing is a necessary evil.
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