[END] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

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Re: [END] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

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Where did the baddie chat go anyways? I can still reach it through the link in my PM but I don't see it around under current job 2 like I used to.
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Quin, a few times you said stuff MP and I were looking at each other and asking, "how does he KNOW that!?" The last time I finally just asked you why you thought what you said, because I was just so shocked. You figured a lot of mechanics out on your own.
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Sloonei wrote:Totally shocked at the identity of 509378, did not see that coming, much gasping.
I figured it out based on what he's said and his syntax :keys:
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Wearing it with pride. It actually fits pretty well under my signature.
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Soneji wrote:Where did the baddie chat go anyways? I can still reach it through the link in my PM but I don't see it around under current job 2 like I used to.
I've hidden the chats away in a secret dark place of the forum that no one (even I) may go. :scared:

Seriously, we decided to keep all the BTSC private instead of revealing it, though we debated on it. Apologies if that's disappointing.
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It would only truly be disappointing if I was town. Reading the mafia chat is one of my favorite parts of games when I'm town/indie. This does benefit me in the end, as now no one can truly see the depths of my villainy other then the hosts and my scummates :feb:
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Spacedaisy wrote:Quin, a few times you said stuff MP and I were looking at each other and asking, "how does he KNOW that!?" The last time I finally just asked you why you thought what you said, because I was just so shocked. You figured a lot of mechanics out on your own.
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Spacedaisy wrote:for those of you questioning the Don's choices as far as challenges for his Capo and Crew, they did not know what the challenges were. They were choosing the reward and then picking a random number to assign their challenge with no knowledge of the actual mission itself. If they had known it would have outed who the capo and crew were. To both Dons. It would have hugely imbalanced the game for basically two groups of five civs to all know who each other are, it also would have made it impossible for a team to off their own Don by accident, which was an intended mechanic. Anyone who plays my games should know, there will always be a kind of role or mechanic that may require self sacrifice or strategic risk/loss.i am a huge fan of making players make tough decisions. And also of unique role interactions. The cops were pretty pessimistic at the idea of two civs each with their own BTSC partner that they could not arrest, but it was intentional. In order for one of the civ teams to win they had to take out the other Don. The game was built to pit civ against civ. You guys just never got there. Who knows, it might have changed the whole outcome if you hadn't put it off.
I realised the civ-on-civ gameplay aspect, but I figured it wasn't important because if town spent ages trying to lynch their opposite family members, the police would have been given free reign over the game. I always just intended to focus 100 percent on scum and if my family came out on top then it would be great. :srsnod:
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Spacedaisy wrote:It was those two challenges that made us realize we needed to recognize some outstanding performances in the prison yard. So the Thug banners were born! The prisoners who carried those challenges were tenacious. There was one point where they went 28 minutes without posting and I thought they were going to miss it, but they didn't. I think the closest they came in the ten minute one was 8 minutes. I was the one who had the honor of patrolling to ensure they met the criteria. That's why I was also cheering them on, lol.
No, there is a full 10-mintues stretch between posts during the 10-minute challenge. I panicked when I saw the time and barely squeaked the saver post in there. I have never idea where in that mess it occurred but it's in there somewhere. Fortunately, the rules stated "more than 10 minutes," meaning 11 minutes between posts would fail us. That was the closest call ever and I was worried for hours that you guys could see the precise post time (like down to the second) with your mod powers and would rule it a failure.
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Re: [END] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

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Silverwolf wrote:
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Sloonei wrote:sorry i spent so much time and energy trying to get you lynched, quin and sig.

That CFD was amazing but it kinda doomed me personally in this game. It caused me to shake up so many of my reads from earlier in the game, and it turned out all of my new ideas were wrong and my old ones were much more on the right track.

Soneji had me fooled the whole time though. If it weren't for those last day shenanigans I was never going to vote for him. Very well played Soneji and the rest of you cops.


This is so very true for pretty much everyone but Silverwolf. Silverwolf has incredible instincts. However, I have never seen so many civs be so absolutely wrong and yet 100% they were right as I did in this game. People who usually have outstanding instincts as well. It was almost painful to watch at times.

Also, I have to share my own Slooneji story. Sloonei, you were originally supposed to be the Chief and soneji was supposed to be my Don, but because I flubbed and got Sloonei and soneji mixed up, I had to flip flop your roles because one of the role card messages was read as soon as I sent it. I felt like an idiot.
Thank You Daisy and soneji and also sig for what you said after I died!! Prisoner 509 and Sloonei were great at analysis and it was really me knowing ika and gut and stool pidgeon stuff that had me doing what I did.

I needed to do a better job of explaining my reads. I am an emotional/passionate player and that distracts me sometimes. I was supremely frustrated with feeling like I wasn't being listened to but I didn't have a lot to go on, just gut and the fact I don't like lurkers and the stool pidgeon stuff. It was hard to read, coming back, some of the stuff said about me by indiglo. It wasn't personal but still hard to read.

That said, no hard feeling anyone!!

Damn about the BTSC, I really wanted to see how ika operated here. :confused:
Ika defended your honor as nobly in our BTSC thread as he did in the main thread :srsnod:

I was both lamenting the civs waving away your reads based on meta and passion while also being thankful that they did as you had our entire team nailed. I know all too well the feeling of being so right in your reads but getting ignored, the trick is to do it so often people have to take notice :nicenod:

We kept you around as long as we did mainly to keep Ika happy :P
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Spacedaisy wrote:Quin, a few times you said stuff MP and I were looking at each other and asking, "how does he KNOW that!?" The last time I finally just asked you why you thought what you said, because I was just so shocked. You figured a lot of mechanics out on your own.
I'm a pretty awful scum reader but I guess I'm not half at this sort of thing :workit:

I'd say that Silverwolf was the MVP this game. :nicenod: She was right about both ika and Epi and it's a shame that nobody listened.

This just reminded me that back on Day 2, the main wagons were Epi, Fuzz and ika so we had our pick of three different mafia members. We were looking so great back then but we ruined ourselves.
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Quin wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:Quin, a few times you said stuff MP and I were looking at each other and asking, "how does he KNOW that!?" The last time I finally just asked you why you thought what you said, because I was just so shocked. You figured a lot of mechanics out on your own.
I'm a pretty awful scum reader but I guess I'm not half at this sort of thing :workit:

I'd say that Silverwolf was the MVP this game. :nicenod: She was right about both ika and Epi and it's a shame that nobody listened.

This just reminded me that back on Day 2, the main wagons were Epi, Fuzz and ika so we had our pick of three different mafia members. We were looking so great back then but we ruined ourselves.
That led to my question in BTSC: "How the fuck did we end up with 21 votes in the span of half an hour?"
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Soneji wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:
Sloonei wrote:sorry i spent so much time and energy trying to get you lynched, quin and sig.

That CFD was amazing but it kinda doomed me personally in this game. It caused me to shake up so many of my reads from earlier in the game, and it turned out all of my new ideas were wrong and my old ones were much more on the right track.

Soneji had me fooled the whole time though. If it weren't for those last day shenanigans I was never going to vote for him. Very well played Soneji and the rest of you cops.


This is so very true for pretty much everyone but Silverwolf. Silverwolf has incredible instincts. However, I have never seen so many civs be so absolutely wrong and yet 100% they were right as I did in this game. People who usually have outstanding instincts as well. It was almost painful to watch at times.

Also, I have to share my own Slooneji story. Sloonei, you were originally supposed to be the Chief and soneji was supposed to be my Don, but because I flubbed and got Sloonei and soneji mixed up, I had to flip flop your roles because one of the role card messages was read as soon as I sent it. I felt like an idiot.
Thank You Daisy and soneji and also sig for what you said after I died!! Prisoner 509 and Sloonei were great at analysis and it was really me knowing ika and gut and stool pidgeon stuff that had me doing what I did.

I needed to do a better job of explaining my reads. I am an emotional/passionate player and that distracts me sometimes. I was supremely frustrated with feeling like I wasn't being listened to but I didn't have a lot to go on, just gut and the fact I don't like lurkers and the stool pidgeon stuff. It was hard to read, coming back, some of the stuff said about me by indiglo. It wasn't personal but still hard to read.

That said, no hard feeling anyone!!

Damn about the BTSC, I really wanted to see how ika operated here. :confused:
Ika defended your honor as nobly in our BTSC thread as he did in the main thread :srsnod:

I was both lamenting the civs waving away your reads based on meta and passion while also being thankful that they did as you had our entire team nailed. I know all too well the feeling of being so right in your reads but getting ignored, the trick is to do it so often people have to take notice :nicenod:

We kept you around as long as we did mainly to keep Ika happy :P
Thank You for telling me this and thanks for the kind words soneji!!

This somewhat makes up for my disappointment in not getting to see the BTSC. I really, really wanted to read it.
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Quin wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:Quin, a few times you said stuff MP and I were looking at each other and asking, "how does he KNOW that!?" The last time I finally just asked you why you thought what you said, because I was just so shocked. You figured a lot of mechanics out on your own.
I'm a pretty awful scum reader but I guess I'm not half at this sort of thing :workit:

I'd say that Silverwolf was the MVP this game. :nicenod: She was right about both ika and Epi and it's a shame that nobody listened.

This just reminded me that back on Day 2, the main wagons were Epi, Fuzz and ika so we had our pick of three different mafia members. We were looking so great back then but we ruined ourselves.
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Epignosis wrote:
Quin wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:Quin, a few times you said stuff MP and I were looking at each other and asking, "how does he KNOW that!?" The last time I finally just asked you why you thought what you said, because I was just so shocked. You figured a lot of mechanics out on your own.
I'm a pretty awful scum reader but I guess I'm not half at this sort of thing :workit:

I'd say that Silverwolf was the MVP this game. :nicenod: She was right about both ika and Epi and it's a shame that nobody listened.

This just reminded me that back on Day 2, the main wagons were Epi, Fuzz and ika so we had our pick of three different mafia members. We were looking so great back then but we ruined ourselves.
That led to my question in BTSC: "How the fuck did we end up with 21 votes in the span of half an hour?"
After a successful Fuzz lynch, sig's preferred avenue is to lynch the runners up of Day 2. This is still his position. According to sig, this is how Day 2 looks:

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Quin wrote:
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Quin wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:Quin, a few times you said stuff MP and I were looking at each other and asking, "how does he KNOW that!?" The last time I finally just asked you why you thought what you said, because I was just so shocked. You figured a lot of mechanics out on your own.
I'm a pretty awful scum reader but I guess I'm not half at this sort of thing :workit:

I'd say that Silverwolf was the MVP this game. :nicenod: She was right about both ika and Epi and it's a shame that nobody listened.

This just reminded me that back on Day 2, the main wagons were Epi, Fuzz and ika so we had our pick of three different mafia members. We were looking so great back then but we ruined ourselves.
That led to my question in BTSC: "How the fuck did we end up with 21 votes in the span of half an hour?"
After a successful Fuzz lynch, sig's preferred avenue is to lynch the runners up of Day 2. This is still his position. According to sig, this is how Day 2 looks:

Epignosis - Cop
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Metalmarsh89 (8), a2thezebra (9), DrWilgy (10) 10%

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Quin (5), Nerolunar (6), agleaminranks (11), Soneji (12), Serge (14), RadicalFuzz (16), Enrique (23), Long Con (28), sig (29) 31%

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Golden (17), ika (18), Silverwolf (19), indiglo (20), S~V~S (21), Dragon D. Luffy (22), Turnip Head (24), Sloonei (25) 28%
Remember this one, Epi? :haha:

I have a new found respect for sig's scumhunting ability.
Yeah man.

I had to roll with the "If it doesn't make sense, it's not true" defense, a.k.a., I had to go Judge Judy on sig.
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Re: [END] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

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Epignosis wrote:
Quin wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Quin wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:Quin, a few times you said stuff MP and I were looking at each other and asking, "how does he KNOW that!?" The last time I finally just asked you why you thought what you said, because I was just so shocked. You figured a lot of mechanics out on your own.
I'm a pretty awful scum reader but I guess I'm not half at this sort of thing :workit:

I'd say that Silverwolf was the MVP this game. :nicenod: She was right about both ika and Epi and it's a shame that nobody listened.

This just reminded me that back on Day 2, the main wagons were Epi, Fuzz and ika so we had our pick of three different mafia members. We were looking so great back then but we ruined ourselves.
That led to my question in BTSC: "How the fuck did we end up with 21 votes in the span of half an hour?"
After a successful Fuzz lynch, sig's preferred avenue is to lynch the runners up of Day 2. This is still his position. According to sig, this is how Day 2 looks:

Epignosis - Cop
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Metalmarsh89 (8), a2thezebra (9), DrWilgy (10) 10%

ika -Undercover Cop
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Quin (5), Nerolunar (6), agleaminranks (11), Soneji (12), Serge (14), RadicalFuzz (16), Enrique (23), Long Con (28), sig (29) 31%

RadicalFuzz - Surveillance Specialist
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Golden (17), ika (18), Silverwolf (19), indiglo (20), S~V~S (21), Dragon D. Luffy (22), Turnip Head (24), Sloonei (25) 28%
Remember this one, Epi? :haha:

I have a new found respect for sig's scumhunting ability.
Yeah man.

I had to roll with the "If it doesn't make sense, it's not true" defense, a.k.a., I had to go Judge Judy on sig.
Looking back on it I'm not sure why I didn't call you out on that argument earlier. It evaded me.
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How about that warden post at four in the morning, heh? :grin:
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Epignosis wrote:How about that warden post at four in the morning, heh? :grin:
I remember how you went through all of our timezones for viability, but I don't think you included yourself :haha:

Another thing I should've called you out on in hindsight.
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I was Quin, by the by. I just need to do all that stuff with this sockpuppet.
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Re: [END] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

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Wow. What a game to be a part of.

This game reminded me of BoB in that I was wrong about most everyone and adamant about my reads to a fault. I'm sorry town, and especially to Quin. My bad man. The past few weeks have been VERY hard to keep up with, and especially when 509 was introduced into the picture. I'm still up in Canada and can only view stuff minimally when I spot Wifi, which is sparingly.

Kudos to the cops, and thank you MP and Daisy for hosting. I feel like I contributed nothing but crap to the game for my faction, so fuck me slowly. But I think I learned quite a bit about several people's playstyles.

To allude to DDL, if a player is acting too scummy to be scum, he is probably scum *cough ika*
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Prisoner 958153 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:How about that warden post at four in the morning, heh? :grin:
I remember how you went through all of our timezones for viability, but I don't think you included yourself :haha:

Another thing I should've called you out on in hindsight.
I'm a school teacher on the east coast. I'm always asleep during that time.

However, I had fallen asleep in my chair during the prison break, woke up at 4ish, and realized I could post.

I did.

I hadn't read anything at all. How funny it was to see that I had posted "So you think you've got me figured out" right after Prisoner 920 made a huge case against me!
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Hey, so SVS is gonna honour the bet she made with P509 and change her sig, right? :haha:
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ok a few things:

first: i would like to still see the BTC topic of mafia, i would also like to know why it wasnt released, i wasactualy hoping for it to be released to to what happened to me in there

second: the post i made to silver and quoted later as prisoner is indeed 100% scum claiming from me, i would never in all my life make that post as town.

moreso when silver responded how she did, i had a RL meltdown where i was crying and lashed out a bunch in the scum topic. how i reacted to epi was 100% non-alignment indicative. its how i will act regardless of my alignement, i will not myslynch silver one bit.

third: iirc i asked in the scum topic what happens in a donvdonvcop situation and last i heard, everone would win?

finally: i do have one small issue and thats scums not baing able to put in the nk for each other, while i can understand the situation to forsaken scum actions if they are nto around, i think we sould at least be able to submit a nomal arrest.

if i had it my way silver would of been arrested n1

i got more to say but i need to make more post in ricoets game i will fix prisoner soon
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:omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg:

I've never thought I'd enjoy being in prison so much, lol!

Thanks for the crazy game, MP/SD! And thanks for the banner, I am quite proud of DH's and my work on that damn decode!!!

The true prisoner champs are def. those who held the 10-minute challenge together... I didn't help out much on that, although I WAS able to pop in to take over while someone took a shower, lol.....

And Epig? I may get hyper-paranoid and over-focus on minutiae in mafia a lot, but sometimes it pays off :pout: But hey... your Chronos will be at your disposal whenever you need him :dark:

Oh, and Juliets, I knew you were you, as well heh, as soon as you mentioned that you once got lynched for being "too nice" I thought... oh man, that's got to be JC :beer:

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Even we're locked out of the topic now Ika, its lost to the abyss. We won though, aren't you happy? :cloud9:
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I'd like to thank 920 for your incredible determination during the 10 minute post challenge. Holy shit you went all night 2 nights in a row when the rest of us slackers were sleeping.

Great job!!
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Silverwolf wrote:I'd like to thank 920 for your incredible determination during the 10 minute post challenge. Holy shit you went all night 2 nights in a row when the rest of us slackers were sleeping.

Great job!!
Oh no, that wasn't me, I didn't do much in that challenge, tbh.
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Soneji wrote:Even we're locked out of the topic now Ika, its lost to the abyss. We won though, aren't you happy? :cloud9:
ehhh, not entirely. while i did break a lot of old meta as silver metnioned. i feel like the win was very...... underwhelming?

a lto of the town got focused in itself when silver was the only oen to really say "hey stop the T v T and focus lurkers"

its very much my thinking as well, when theres a lot fo "1v1" going on i will more then not go and say "hey lets do something else"

as for the fuz bus, it was my full intention to have him offed in attempts for town cred as saw, it got me like 3 more days. if i was lynched, i could easily see fuzz off next

that being said clearing prsioner now
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Considering how much more focused pressure happened after the Prisoner arrived and the masterful bus Epi and I pulled, I don't think I could say this was an underwhelming win. Maybe from your perspective as you've been dead for quite awhile.

This game was really draining on me. I'm used to 24/24 with no talking at night. 48/24 with night posting is a killer, though I think it while generally pro-town is also somewhat pro-mafia as town loses it focus.
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Soneji wrote:Considering how much more focused pressure happened after the Prisoner arrived and the masterful bus Epi and I pulled, I don't think I could say this was an underwhelming win. Maybe from your perspective as you've been dead for quite awhile.

This game was really draining on me. I'm used to 24/24 with no talking at night. 48/24 with night posting is a killer, though I think it while generally pro-town is also somewhat pro-mafia as town loses it focus.
I didnt see the rest of it after my arrest. i think we all did well overall but i feel like it (FMPOV) was a lot of jsut town eating itself
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oh one final thing, when people complain about a game or a mechanic and how it was imbalanced or unfair, just look at my sig and remember that host cant jsut go "ok change" we have to abide by what we made
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ika wrote:
Soneji wrote:Considering how much more focused pressure happened after the Prisoner arrived and the masterful bus Epi and I pulled, I don't think I could say this was an underwhelming win. Maybe from your perspective as you've been dead for quite awhile.

This game was really draining on me. I'm used to 24/24 with no talking at night. 48/24 with night posting is a killer, though I think it while generally pro-town is also somewhat pro-mafia as town loses it focus.
I didnt see the rest of it after my arrest. i think we all did well overall but i feel like it (FMPOV) was a lot of jsut town eating itself
Can't argue against that.
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Epignosis wrote:This was my first time being bad in a long ass while. Felt good. :feb:

Sometimes. :scared:
You really kicked ass. You and Soneji were the MVPs for sure. :clap:

Speaking of which, I'm still amazed that Soneji's double arrest succeeded so many times despite being mathematically improbable.
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You and 3J both on the same page the whole game? I doubted our chance of success many many many times.
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Prisoner 509378 wrote:
Prisoner 958153 wrote:This thought just occurred to me:

Can someone explain how Dom survived the lynch on Day 11? I see nothing in the roles that would lead to a baddie being given lynch immunity. This tells me that it could either be a undisclosed game mechanic, or be a result of the hosts one-use powers they used way back at the beginning of the game. With this in mind, how feasible is it to suggest that Turnip may also have benefitted from this protection? With all this on the table, I still think chaindeath is more likely to be a policeman.
We still don't know how Dom survived that lynch. There had to be some kind of secret mechanic or role ability in motion, but the details elude us and probably will until endgame. We could certainly tinfoil Turnip Head as being the same story, but I don't think it would be wise. We do know after all the dons have to be alive, and it makes no sense for Soneji, chaindeath, or I to be dons.

Plus Soneji is conceding. :p

Beautifully played Soneji and all of the cops. If it weren't for process of elimination and role assignments, this scenario may never have arrived. There's not much a baddie team can do about that.
This post though. Soneji wasn't conceding at all :sigh:
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My supreme confidence should have tipped people in that I might know something that they do not. There is rarely a situation where I would concede.
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Soneji wrote:My supreme confidence should have tipped people in that I might know something that they do not. There is rarely a situation where I would concede.
At the time I was assuming there was no possible way we could lose, so your apparent concession made perfect sense. Even when I saw the game had ended, my first thought was that you had officially conceded.
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But wow, this game was nuts. I've never seen such a rollercoaster mafia game. My mood went from through the roof to way down in the dumps, and then back through the roof again when SVS killed Dom. Then a crushing unforeseen defeat.
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I didn't really think he was conceding. I was just being provocative. I said the same thing about Epi earlier in the game. :p
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Congrats cops! You played a great game!

MP & Daisy thanks! And a quick question, had I not changed my kill the night I killed Dom, had I left it on Soneji, would things have been different?

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It would have made a difference in the night arrest choice between Nero and TH. That may have given town the win, depending on if Epi could get a mislynch on chaindeath or Nero.
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As soon as MP told me I had a kill, I said, Kill Soneji, I was so sure you were bad and you were snowing Sloonei, like Epi had snowed me. Then when TH said what he said about Dom, I switched it since my confidence was shot after being so wrong on Quin & Scotty, and I seemed to be the only one who suspected you.

When I got to come back as a prisoner, I spent most of my time reading back. I was so pleased you both were bad! But in retrospect, I should have stuck to my gut read on you, but hey, whatever. You played a beautiful game, for sure.

And Typhoony, I can't believe neither of us thought to discuss Ninjas & Pirates. I guessed Ninjas. Was that right?

Also,lulz at the capo crew challenges being not known to the Don. I was sure we were suspecting him or something that he wanted to shut us up when we got the 3 post challenge, ha ha. Doh.
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Soneji wrote:My supreme confidence should have tipped people in that I might know something that they do not. There is rarely a situation where I would concede.
At the time I was assuming there was no possible way we could lose, so your apparent concession made perfect sense. Even when I saw the game had ended, my first thought was that you had officially conceded.
Had this been a standard setup, there would have been no way we could win. I am of the opinion that Mafia should not end in process of elimination. Bad guys should be able to deceive to win rather than be outed due to mechanics at endgame. My very first civilian win occurred because I was virtually kill-proof, and because I kept a spreadsheet (a real one :p) noting who could and could not be a killer. Due to the rules and mechanics, this made it a cinch to figure out logically who the last killer was. It was an excellent logic puzzle, but it made it impossible for the last killer to convince anyone to lynch anybody else.

Fortunately, a mechanic I was most leery of coming into this turned out to be our greatest boon. With no focus on eliminating opposing Dons, however, we kept telling ourselves, "The Dons are still alive, the Dons are still alive." I would have assumed that the Capo & Crew, when given a kill, would have tried to work out who the opposing Don was. That's why I thought Dom got popped- he survived a lynch, Capo & Crew got a kill and bam.

I even told MP that, on paper, this was the most difficult setup I've ever seen for mafia to win:

-Two all-but invincible roles with BTSC (Dons)
-A way to clear those Dons in the thread (Traitors)
-Two sets of BTSC trios (Capo & Crew)
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-A mass resurrection that includes a number of non-players and in which a civilian-friendly independent (3J of all people) stays permanently (Prison Break)
-And then a second (!) mass resurrection.

So I was pleased that not only were we able to last as long as we did, but that we could reach a point where, even if the rest of our team got lynched one phase after the next, we were in a position to win by sheer attrition.
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At an early stage of the game, our crew got intel for completing our mission that Golden was a member of the Daisy Mafia. So I start target painting him hard, lol. But other than that, I think we were all more fixated on eliminating you cops than each other. I killed Dom becasue my Don thought he was bad. From a long view strategic viewpoint, killing der Sloonei might have been smarter, but I thought the baddies would win before we got to that stage if we started killing each other intentionally.

And regardless of mechanics, game play is what wins game. Your team played to win, Epi.

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Thanks for the game! Sorry I sucked this game. Replacing in is harder than I remember. :blush:


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You didn't even mention the hardest part of the set-up, that being our low numbers. Mafia is usually one-third or one-fourth of the total players, in this game we had one-fifth the total players.

I seem to have the most success as mafia when its I and another top tier player in charge of a mixed group that mostly lay low.
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In my experience, town-to-mafia ratios tends to be best in the 4-1 or 7-2 range, which is closer to one fifth. This can vary by setup type, but only in rare circumstance have I seen a truly balanced game at 3-1 (the champs tourney setup of Season 2 being a valid example).
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