[END] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I didn't really think he was conceding. I was just being provocative. I said the same thing about Epi earlier in the game.

[S~V~S]

Congrats cops! You played a great game!

MP & Daisy thanks! And a quick question, had I not changed my kill the night I killed Dom, had I left it on Soneji, would things have been different?

And yes Quin, I will add whichever statement JJJ likes to my Sig

And I guessed Bea, Rico & JJJ for sure during the first prison break.

[Soneji]

It would have made a difference in the night arrest choice between Nero and TH. That may have given town the win, depending on if Epi could get a mislynch on chaindeath or Nero.

[S~V~S]

As soon as MP told me I had a kill, I said, Kill Soneji, I was so sure you were bad and you were snowing Sloonei, like Epi had snowed me. Then when TH said what he said about Dom, I switched it since my confidence was shot after being so wrong on Quin & Scotty, and I seemed to be the only one who suspected you.

When I got to come back as a prisoner, I spent most of my time reading back. I was so pleased you both were bad! But in retrospect, I should have stuck to my gut read on you, but hey, whatever. You played a beautiful game, for sure.

And Typhoony, I can't believe neither of us thought to discuss Ninjas & Pirates. I guessed Ninjas. Was that right?

Also,lulz at the capo crew challenges being not known to the Don. I was sure we were suspecting him or something that he wanted to shut us up when we got the 3 post challenge, ha ha. Doh.

[Epignosis]

My supreme confidence should have tipped people in that I might know something that they do not. There is rarely a situation where I would concede.

At the time I was assuming there was no possible way we could lose, so your apparent concession made perfect sense. Even when I saw the game had ended, my first thought was that you had officially conceded.

Had this been a standard setup, there would have been no way we could win. I am of the opinion that Mafia should not end in process of elimination. Bad guys should be able to deceive to win rather than be outed due to mechanics at endgame. My very first civilian win occurred because I was virtually kill-proof, and because I kept a spreadsheet (a real one ) noting who could and could not be a killer. Due to the rules and mechanics, this made it a cinch to figure out logically who the last killer was. It was an excellent logic puzzle, but it made it impossible for the last killer to convince anyone to lynch anybody else.

Fortunately, a mechanic I was most leery of coming into this turned out to be our greatest boon. With no focus on eliminating opposing Dons, however, we kept telling ourselves, "The Dons are still alive, the Dons are still alive." I would have assumed that the Capo & Crew, when given a kill, would have tried to work out who the opposing Don was. That's why I thought Dom got popped- he survived a lynch, Capo & Crew got a kill and bam.

I even told MP that, on paper, this was the most difficult setup I've ever seen for mafia to win:

-Two all-but invincible roles with BTSC (Dons)
-A way to clear those Dons in the thread (Traitors)
-Two sets of BTSC trios (Capo & Crew)
-Potential additional BTSC (Lovers)
-Four civilian ninjas (Hitmen and Capo & Crew)
-Two civilians with built-in auto-protects (Stool Pigeons)
-A mass resurrection that includes a number of non-players and in which a civilian-friendly independent (3J of all people) stays permanently (Prison Break)
-And then a second (!) mass resurrection.

So I was pleased that not only were we able to last as long as we did, but that we could reach a point where, even if the rest of our team got lynched one phase after the next, we were in a position to win by sheer attrition.

[thellama73]

Thanks fr the game, MP and Daisy! My sock account is cleaned out and the password reset.

[S~V~S]

At an early stage of the game, our crew got intel for completing our mission that Golden was a member of the Daisy Mafia. So I start target painting him hard, lol. But other than that, I think we were all more fixated on eliminating you cops than each other. I killed Dom becasue my Don thought he was bad. From a long view strategic viewpoint, killing der Sloonei might have been smarter, but I thought the baddies would win before we got to that stage if we started killing each other intentionally.

And regardless of mechanics, game play is what wins game. Your team played to win, Epi.

I will go clear out 607001 now.

[Dom]

Thanks for the game! Sorry I sucked this game. Replacing in is harder than I remember.


Congrats, fellow winners!

[Soneji]

You didn't even mention the hardest part of the set-up, that being our low numbers. Mafia is usually one-third or one-fourth of the total players, in this game we had one-fifth the total players.

I seem to have the most success as mafia when its I and another top tier player in charge of a mixed group that mostly lay low.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

In my experience, town-to-mafia ratios tends to be best in the 4-1 or 7-2 range, which is closer to one fifth. This can vary by setup type, but only in rare circumstance have I seen a truly balanced game at 3-1 (the champs tourney setup of Season 2 being a valid example).

[Soneji]

On NF where I play the games with the one-third ratio are role madness games of 30+, most of the time with two(on rare occasions three) mafia teams. So if 30 players there would be ten mafia, five on each team(potentially 6-4 or even 7-3). Its balanced as well as RM can be and as I have learned from my interactions with those from other sites, what they consider role madness is tame compared to the beast it has become on NF. We love it though.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Yeah that's an important difference. I "grew up" in RYM's mafia community, where 95% of the games feature a single mafia team.

[Marmot]

In my experience, town-to-mafia ratios tends to be best in the 4-1 or 7-2 range, which is closer to one fifth. This can vary by setup type, but only in rare circumstance have I seen a truly balanced game at 3-1 (the champs tourney setup of Season 2 being a valid example).

I believe this is the very first time a mafia team of size greater than 4 has won a game on the Syndicate.

Congrats you guys!!

[Marmot]

Well not you Jay. You weren't part of them. :P

But Soneji and company.

[Sloonei]

Thanks for the game! Sorry I sucked this game. Replacing in is harder than I remember.


Congrats, fellow winners!

You didn't suck, you replaced into the most difficult and unfortunate position in a mafia game. We essentially knew you were bad before you subbed in.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Cool ending to this game. Nice to see Soneji urbstomping it, I've been hoping to see him being active in a Syndicate game for a long time. Hope you play more games here, I think you can add a lot to this site. And nice to see EPi as scum again, I guess I should have trusted that idea that he was being too pacific to be civ Epi.

This game was fun at start, but then it became ridiculously stressful. I was going through a taxing moment in real life (preparing for a very difficult exam which I'm still not sure whether I passed or not), and all that emotion combined to the regular stress from mafia games burned me out pretty quickly. It started with the CFD thing, and then when the prisoners came in and I started because accused by people I didn't even know, I blew up and let people lynch me with no defense. I'm still feeling burn out from mafia as a whole after this game.

I have to say, that Prisoner mechanic is really creative, but the whole "introduce 15 new players in the game and give them vote power" can be somewhat unfair to players who have spent 5 cycles trying to build trust and now suddenly lose it. Of course that could also happen to mafia but... I guess I'm not fond of the concept too much, it just feels cheap.

Thanks for the game though Daisy and MP, you guys did an outstanding job at designing game of this length and complexity, and dealing with all the people (like me) wanting to quit it. And I apologize for some of the rants and agressive posts I made, in case that bothered someone.

To allude to DDL, if a player is acting too scummy to be scum, he is probably scum *cough ika*

The same thing applied to Sig though, and I think I used the same sentence while talking about him at some point. There is no easy way out for this.

[Nerolunar]

I got to the roles and I am absolutely kicking myself. I thought my lover must have died at the beginning because in 9 days we never found eachother, shiiiit.

I'll catch up with everything after lunch.

Its unbelieveable. Good game though Thanks MP and Daisy for hosting. This has been the best game I have had here so far

I sucked though. Chaindeath was town after all

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Well not you Jay. You weren't part of them. :P

From about Days 6 through 9 I might as well have been.

[Sloonei]

I got to the roles and I am absolutely kicking myself. I thought my lover must have died at the beginning because in 9 days we never found eachother, shiiiit.

I'll catch up with everything after lunch.

Its unbelieveable. Good game though Thanks MP and Daisy for hosting. This has been the best game I have had here so far

I sucked though. Chaindeath was town after all

The most fitting scenario would have been you and chaindeath as the lovers.

[Nerolunar]

I got to the roles and I am absolutely kicking myself. I thought my lover must have died at the beginning because in 9 days we never found eachother, shiiiit.

I'll catch up with everything after lunch.

Its unbelieveable. Good game though Thanks MP and Daisy for hosting. This has been the best game I have had here so far

I sucked though. Chaindeath was town after all

The most fitting scenario would have been you and chaindeath as the lovers.

I would have to take a long break from mafia if that was the case.

[Dom]

Thanks for the game! Sorry I sucked this game. Replacing in is harder than I remember.


Congrats, fellow winners!

You didn't suck, you replaced into the most difficult and unfortunate position in a mafia game. We essentially knew you were bad before you subbed in.

Thank you. Not sure I deserve it, but thank you.

[Silverwolf]

Soneji-I'd like to publicly thank you for your kind comments in scum chat. Before anyone complains, I only got access out of concern for ika and only temporarily. I understand why it wasn't released and I thank the hosts for their consideration of ika and your kind comments as well.

[ika]

Soneji-I'd like to publicly thank you for your kind comments in scum chat. Before anyone complains, I only got access out of concern for ika and only temporarily. I understand why it wasn't released and I thank the hosts for their consideration of ika and your kind comments as well.

Hearing the reason for sivlerwolf as well i can understand why it wasnt revealed, i had a full mental breakdown in there, i do not mind if it was revealed but i beilve i said it earlier, when i made that scum post blaming silver i broke down cus it was so much a "not me" post to make to her. even now i am still upset at it. i ended up lashing out at epi and ohter for it too.

Like i said, if i ever make thta kind of post to silver its 100% scum. its not like me to use emotional manipulation to my advantage town or scum most time.

[Ricochet]

Congrats cops! You played a great game!

MP & Daisy thanks! And a quick question, had I not changed my kill the night I killed Dom, had I left it on Soneji, would things have been different?

And yes Quin, I will add whichever statement JJJ likes to my Sig

And I guessed Bea, Rico & JJJ for sure during the first prison break.

Yep, I remember Golden calling me weird names like G-Man or MacBaddie, to which your reacted with an "oh you silly" or something.

[Ricochet]

Thanks for the game! Sorry I sucked this game. Replacing in is harder than I remember.

Congrats, fellow winners!

Dombaddie trainride knows no end!

[Soneji]

Soneji-I'd like to publicly thank you for your kind comments in scum chat. Before anyone complains, I only got access out of concern for ika and only temporarily. I understand why it wasn't released and I thank the hosts for their consideration of ika and your kind comments as well.

Yes well, don't spread it around too much, it will hurt my cold, detached image I have in games.

I reached out to Ika earlier privately but as the game was still going on I didn't feel it appropriate to send that PM to you as well.

Hope to play with you two in the future.

[Spacedaisy]

I apologize that the prison breakout mechanic felt cheap, but you weren't aware of the fact that they were competing for a rez. They basically had to act in such a way to convince you all of their value to you, so it would never have been in their best interest to just do what they wanted and rule the thread for a day. One of the prisoners suggested it a couple times but everyone else dismissed it out of hand because they knew it would undermine what they were trying to do. Anyway, the whole independent prisoners mechanic got added like two weeks before game start. Sorry if any of you hated it, but I was really enjoying seeing it play out. There are things I would adjust should I ever use this kind of mechanic again though. But overall I was happy with it.

[Tangrowth]

Congrats cops! You played a great game!

MP & Daisy thanks! And a quick question, had I not changed my kill the night I killed Dom, had I left it on Soneji, would things have been different?

And yes Quin, I will add whichever statement JJJ likes to my Sig

And I guessed Bea, Rico & JJJ for sure during the first prison break.

It's hard to say for sure, but I was a bit like NOOOO!! when you moved it, lol, because although Dom was still a cop, Soneji had the more powerful role and people were town-reading him more. It was a good move though and kept alive the remote chance that the baddies could be blocked from winning.

That said, it was still a case of too little too late, since Sloonei still would have likely sockblocked my team from winning, and vice versa with Turnip Head.

[Tangrowth]

It would have made a difference in the night arrest choice between Nero and TH. That may have given town the win, depending on if Epi could get a mislynch on chaindeath or Nero.

Indeed, this is true! It would have been a matter of those nasty Dons though. We designed them to be invincible for the dual nature of them being a huge asset but also a huge risk to keeping either team from winning at endgame.

It's funny though, neither Daisy nor I really thought we'd get to this scenario. We just assumed you all would have time to Don-hunt, but you mislynched too many times to shift the focus away from the cops. It is what it is.

There will be a sequel, so maybe things will go differently then.

[Tangrowth]

Thanks for the game! Sorry I sucked this game. Replacing in is harder than I remember.


Congrats, fellow winners!

Seriously, I can't thank all of the replacements enough. This game ended up being more active in posts by far than Daisy and I anticipated, and I really had to twist some arms to get folks to replace in, but I'm so glad that you all did. It helped out enormously.

[Tangrowth]

Cool ending to this game. Nice to see Soneji urbstomping it, I've been hoping to see him being active in a Syndicate game for a long time. Hope you play more games here, I think you can add a lot to this site. And nice to see EPi as scum again, I guess I should have trusted that idea that he was being too pacific to be civ Epi.

This game was fun at start, but then it became ridiculously stressful. I was going through a taxing moment in real life (preparing for a very difficult exam which I'm still not sure whether I passed or not), and all that emotion combined to the regular stress from mafia games burned me out pretty quickly. It started with the CFD thing, and then when the prisoners came in and I started because accused by people I didn't even know, I blew up and let people lynch me with no defense. I'm still feeling burn out from mafia as a whole after this game.

I have to say, that Prisoner mechanic is really creative, but the whole "introduce 15 new players in the game and give them vote power" can be somewhat unfair to players who have spent 5 cycles trying to build trust and now suddenly lose it. Of course that could also happen to mafia but... I guess I'm not fond of the concept too much, it just feels cheap.

Thanks for the game though Daisy and MP, you guys did an outstanding job at designing game of this length and complexity, and dealing with all the people (like me) wanting to quit it. And I apologize for some of the rants and agressive posts I made, in case that bothered someone.

To allude to DDL, if a player is acting too scummy to be scum, he is probably scum *cough ika*

The same thing applied to Sig though, and I think I used the same sentence while talking about him at some point. There is no easy way out for this.

Your secret role submission was excellent, as well as your game activity, but I knew you really had RL dump on you in the end there. I can relate so much. Don't sweat it, it happens to all of us. You really played a good game while you could, especially in terms of effort, and I personally am not upset or bothered by the way you went out, even though I knew that level-headed DDL would have perhaps been better for my team's chances.

[Tangrowth]

Speaking of which, I really had one hell of a team roster this game, even if it didn't work out and you all kept mislynching each other. Props to my Team Sockface members, who at least gave it their all while they could.

[Tangrowth]

I apologize that the prison breakout mechanic felt cheap, but you weren't aware of the fact that they were competing for a rez. They basically had to act in such a way to convince you all of their value to you, so it would never have been in their best interest to just do what they wanted and rule the thread for a day. One of the prisoners suggested it a couple times but everyone else dismissed it out of hand because they knew it would undermine what they were trying to do. Anyway, the whole independent prisoners mechanic got added like two weeks before game start. Sorry if any of you hated it, but I was really enjoying seeing it play out. There are things I would adjust should I ever use this kind of mechanic again though. But overall I was happy with it.

Indeed! We actually hadn't planned that mechanic at all from the beginning; Daisy had a moment of brilliance a few weeks before the game's inception, and I told her that there was no way we could pass this up. It took some adjustments to the roles and a ton of pre-game time that I'm not accustomed to, but we made sure to have all the kinks addressed well before the game began, at least I had hoped. It was definitely an experimental mechanic that I think neither of us plans on using again (at least in its current state -- I'm not a host that likes to repeat full game mechanics), but it was neat to see it play out, and I'm tickled pink that especially our independent prisoners enjoyed it so much. Every single person I asked to be an independent prisoner said yes, so we had more than we were anticipating, but it was exciting.

[Spacedaisy]

Also Epi, you list the four civ ninjas as a handicap for the baddies, but it made it much, much harder for the civ ninjas to land a kill. The fact you only saw one Hitman land a kill the whole game should speak to the fact it was balanced, or even possibly imbalanced in the favor of the cops. I don't mean to diminish your win, you guys deserved it. However, the reason it felt so imbalanced to you is because the civs played it as if it were a standard setup rather than strategically balancing going after people they suspect were bad and people who they believed were on the other team. You guys won despite that so it makes your win that much more significant.

Linki: my husband just used the phrase "tickled pink" in casual conversation...

[Scotty]

Awwwwww good guy Soneji. This is the kinda fucking level of humanity I LOVE about this site.



I feel like I learned a lot about a bunch of players in this game, but as the people behind the sock. Like, you play insanity games with 50 people on other sites and you get to know them as players and their special quirks and stylings, but it's only a facade. I feel like the games here are personable to a fault- yes we lie and have to create an image to advance our particular win goal, but I feel like a human being's personality and character shine through on this site more than any other.

I'm glad to get to know everyone and find it an honor that for the majority of people, this game is an extension of ourselves and at the end of the day we're a community that supports each other.

[Tangrowth]

Also Epi, you list the four civ ninjas as a handicap for the baddies, but it made it much, much harder for the civ ninjas to land a kill. The fact you only saw one Hitman land a kill the whole game should speak to the fact it was balanced, or even possibly imbalanced in the favor of the cops. I don't mean to diminish your win, you guys deserved it. However, the reason it felt so imbalanced to you is because the civs played it as if it were a standard setup rather than strategically balancing going after people they suspect were bad and people who they believed were on the other team. You guys won despite that so it makes your win that much more significant.

Linki: my husband just used the phrase "tickled pink" in casual conversation...

+1

Also, you know that's right.

[Tangrowth]

Awwwwww good guy Soneji. This is the kinda fucking level of humanity I LOVE about this site.



I feel like I learned a lot about a bunch of players in this game, but as the people behind the sock. Like, you play insanity games with 50 people on other sites and you get to know them as players and their special quirks and stylings, but it's only a facade. I feel like the games here are personable to a fault- yes we lie and have to create an image to advance our particular win goal, but I feel like a human being's personality and character shine through on this site more than any other.

I'm glad to get to know everyone and find it an honor that for the majority of people, this game is an extension of ourselves and at the end of the day we're a community that supports each other.

[Spacedaisy]

Awwwwww good guy Soneji. This is the kinda fucking level of humanity I LOVE about this site.



I feel like I learned a lot about a bunch of players in this game, but as the people behind the sock. Like, you play insanity games with 50 people on other sites and you get to know them as players and their special quirks and stylings, but it's only a facade. I feel like the games here are personable to a fault- yes we lie and have to create an image to advance our particular win goal, but I feel like a human being's personality and character shine through on this site more than any other.

I'm glad to get to know everyone and find it an honor that for the majority of people, this game is an extension of ourselves and at the end of the day we're a community that supports each other.

This made me happier than any mafia win or successful hosting experience I could ever have!

[Tangrowth]

If you all still have questions, by the way, keep throwing them at us!

I realized I never revealed the "prison letters", so for those of you who are curious... here is some more prison stuff.

The "split into two groups and identify the other groups' fictional letter" challenge unfortunately never happened, even though Daisy and I thought it was one of the hardest challenges, and I'm sure the prisoners were wondering why I was having them write those damn letters! They never got to find out in game. So I thought I'd share at least the ones I collected. I eventually stopped asking folks for them because it was clear the mechanic wouldn't come into play.

[Tangrowth]

Okay, so I think this is the last post on this page, so I'll fill it with this post and then post the letters next. :P

They really were so creative, I just have to share them! The prisoners really did a great job with that exercise.

[Silverwolf]

One thing I love about this site is the people care about each other. It is foreign to me because I come from a place where we are at each other's throats more often than not. It's an adjustment for me but a good one. I really, really like it!!

[Tangrowth]

Prison Letters

Prisoner 509378:

Dearest Allison,

It has been six days since my last letter. My pens were confiscated last week during another cell raid; the guards actually insisted I could have been hiding contraband in the ink chamber! Only today have they been returned, and the one with which I write you now is the sole remaining not in disrepair. I will have to trade away my last carton of cigarettes for a new pen, but it's an easy sacrifice to make for you. I've thought of you as much as ever this week. The smallest details of our time together are what I hold the closest... the way you used to squint your eyes in the car on the way to Sunday Mass, and the painstaking effort you took to place the parsley leaf on the dinner plate with perfect symmetry next to the oiled bread. Speaking of food, it's getting worse here. Last night's dinner was something from Hell; I couldn't even describe it in such a way to do justice to its foulness. The mere thought of it makes my skin crawl and my soul tug away from its palace of bone. This is no prison, it is a dungeon.

I'll find my way out of here soon enough. I absolutely must. I can't stand it anymore. Wait for me Allison, I am coming for you.

Forever yours,
Maurice

Prisoner 740359:

Dearest love,

I am fine. Please don't forget to record the 6th season of Game of Thrones next month. I might be in here for a while. I think of you so much. At night I wake up from my sleep and pray, sending my thoughts all the way to Brighton to you and then feeling at ease.

I wish I wouldn't have disappointed you this way. You must be torn apart, but worry not, for I will prevail and all this will one day be behind us. You know me well, you know how I tend to be. I merely want to do a lot of good in this world. But man plans and God decides.

If you haven't heard from the others or indeed have heard things from them, hear it from me instead, I beg you. My intentions were always to help the community get rid of evil. That's why I joined up, that's what I tried to do. But I'm a difficult person, I know that too well. I wrestle and tustle and question everyone's right judgement, which I take it to earn me no trust among the rest. It all went so wrong. Next thing I knew, after being almost beaten to death by the and wake up after in the penitenciary medical ward. It's been all such a huge misunderstanding, I tell you. I certainly did you no proud, but I did you no wrong either. I'm no scum, my darling..

And here I am in jail now. Am I sad? Am I glad? I couldn't tell. I'd like to feel I can redeem myself. I'm doing the best I can to get back out there. There are challenges to be faced, but hope and freedom lie ahead. I have total conviction that I am suffering for truth, justice and for getting back out there to help the others. To reconcile and aid them further.

And to get back to you, my love. Not a day goes by without that in mind.

Yours beloved,
[REDACTED BY PRISON MANAGEMENT]

Turf Prison, March 11, 2016

Prisoner 813142:

Dear Mini-Me,

How are you? Daddy misses you very much you know. It's a hard life in prison these days. It's nowhere near as easy-going and entertaining as the time we served together before joining forces with that crazy Dutch bastard, Goldmember. Remember him? What a freak.

Daddy is trying to stay positive in jail. I may have met a few people who would make for good henchmen once I make my escape. We're always in need of good henchmen and good help is so hard to find you know.

How is Mini Mr. Bigglesworth? You haven't been gnawing on him, have you? Remember, we don't gnaw on our kitty. Biting Scott is still in bounds. He seems to have only fallen further off the deep end since losing his hair. At one time I might have taken him under my wing to train as a true heir to my evil plans but let's face it- he either tries too hard or not enough. He hasn't found that evil sweet spot and probably never will. Oh hell, you have my permission to kill him if you get the chance.

Tell Frau Farbissina that I sometimes think of the wonderful times we had together on these cold nights. It helps me take my mind off of the screams for help when one of the inmates are getting accosted in the shower. Thankfully no one has tried to pull that crap with me. They know that daddy is one bad mofo.

Kindly inform Number 2 that I wish to invest heavily with Apple. Their recent decision not to hack through their encryption for the US government means they will be a powerful ally in our evil plans. Please also tell Number 2 to switch everybody over to the iPhone. It's long past time to give up our Blackberries I think.

Give my love to Mr. Bigglesworth but remember- no gnawing on the kitty! Thank you Mini-Me. You're the best miniature clone an evil genius could ask for.

-Daddy Evil


PS- You complete me.

Prisoner 640326:

Deur aunt Nora,

I miss you.

You are the only person who has ever tried to love me. Back in the 80s when I was sent to stay with you, I did not want to. My parents had just died in that horrible fire and I was feeling very lonely and sad. But when I got to your place, that oasis of peace and quiet in the middle of the woods, I felt a sense of serenity coming over me.

I will never forget the look you gave me when you saw me then. It was one I had never seen before... It was the look of someone who genuinely cared about me. In the months that followed, you showed that you cared about me. We played together, we read together, we crushed spiders together. The little animals that I killed and brought back for dinner, you cooked even though I could see you were disgusted. Even when I accidentally set half the house on fire, all you did was hold me in your arms. For the only time in my life, I felt loved.

I could see that you were slowly starting to crack. Your face changed: it looked tired of trying to keep up the facade, there were glimpses of your real feelings coming through. But you thought I deserved a normal life and would do everything in your power to make that happen. Oh how I have failed you...

On that horrible day when I found your body, hanging from the ceiling, I was forever crushed. That was the point in my life where I just said fuck it, fuck it all to hell. The accompanying note, telling me to live a good life and that you just couldn't do it anymore, broke me. My mind went into a frenzy. Since then, time has been a mess for me. I don't remember most that has happened, my memories are foggy, I feel like shit.

... I don't know what I'm doing here aunt Nora. Please come back. Save me.

Love,

Anton

Prisoner 277058:

Here is my letter, Boss Man:

Dearest Mary-Anne,

Oh, have I missed you! For all the cruelties I have suffered in my captivity, every waking moment spent in your absence is undoubtedly the most severe. I have resolved to not let such agonies rend my spirits, for I know in my heart I shall see you again. Please keep me in your thoughts, and know that my love for you is what allows me to tolerate this awful place.

Pray for me my love; the other prisoners here are a far more violent sort than I am used to back home in Oklahoma. They do not take kindly to the smallest of slights, and are far too eager to prove themselves the meanest dog in the yard. I myself am content to read the poetry in the library. One day I found a particularly profound passage roughly scrawled into a bathroom stall.

Despite my fears, I have made a great many friends amongst the inmates here. To a man, they declare their innocence to me, I suppose because I am one of the learned ones.

Nevermind all that boring nonsense. Please write back to me at once and tell me how Paw and Maw are doing. I miss them almost as much as I miss you. It would mean more than I can say in this letter to know that they are healthy in your care.

Ever yours,

Nelson Gruber

Prisoner 920077:

To my darling Belle,

As always when I wake up and see the dim, pathetic light coming from my high above window, my thoughts turn to you. That may sound like faint praise, comparing you to a poor ray of sunshine, but my darling, that light is the light of the ocean, the light of the stars, the light of the moon, the Earth, the Heavens... it is the light of hope, of everything that is good and right on this Great Earth. it is the light of hope that one day I shall hold you in my arms again, and we will return to the Great City to finish the job that we did start so very long ago.

Are you well? Do you still pursue the dream, our dream? Do you still hunt down those who hurt us so and make them pay in my stead? I pray that you do. For if you have swayed even an iota from our plans while I lay in this hell hole and rot, well... know that a reckoning comes to everyone, when the time and place is right. And my cause is right, and so is yours, so long as you are with me. That pathetic ray of light high above reminds me of you because it looks like your neck. A neck I will crack if you have betrayed me. If you are no longer with me, well, I guess we will find out how far a gal can run in twenty years.

As always, my darling, I hope you are healthy and hale. Peace be upon you.

Prisoner 413022:

My dearest one,

They say every man does his own time and I can tell you it's true. We are all haunted by our own particular past, our own particular demons, our own particular joys and regrets. We must live with our own particular crimes.

Some men tell themselves they are the victim. That they had no control over the choices that lead them here. I know otherwise. I understand acutely how my own choices and my own actions lead me to this moment. I know that what I have done was wrong. And I deserve to be where I am now.

I miss you. I miss your touch. I miss the way you looked at me. I miss being your super hero. I knew the day they came for me, when I looked back, I'd never see that look again. I know that I can never be your super hero. My actions killed that part of your heart. This is my biggest regret. My truest shame. I'm so sorry for what I've done to you.

I can't change the past. I can only do the time I have and try to move on. I hope that someday I can be the man you always thought I was. I know that I will never be that man for you.

I know this letter will go unanswered, like the may I've written before. Yet, still I write them. Writing you helps me to keep my head together. It's both punishment and salvation. Pain and suffering.

May you find the man who can be what you wanted me to be. I hope you find peace and happiness and all of the things I promised to give you, but failed to provide.

You are in my heart. Now and forever,

-M

Prisoner 513538:

Dear lola

I'm so cold

Save me

Love

Prisoner 650829:

Hey fam! Hope all is well with everyone back home! Prison isn't nearly as bad as i thought it would be. Most of the other inmates seem alright. One dude thinks he's Dr. Evil from those Austin Powers movies but everyone else seems "normal." Most of us hang out in the yard playing games. Some just keep to themselves in their cells.

There was a rumor going around that the warden likes to dress up in women's clothes to try and pick up truckers at the motel bar down the road. I didn't believe it until one day the warden had to bend down to pick up a pen he dropped and I saw a red lace thong exposed when the back of his shirt lifted up! Guilty as charged! Haha!

Some of the guys are whispering about breaking out. My own cellmate is one of them. Not sure if I should join them or not. If we get caught we'll end up in here for even longer. Wouldn't mind running off to Mexico and living on the beach the rest of my life though!

That's all for now. Hope to hear from you soon!

Prisoner 379949:

Hey.

I miss you.
See you soon.

xxx,
Your butterfly

Prisoner 208986:

Dear Mom,

Hi I'm just writing to check up on everyone there and make sure everything is ok. Hopefully brother Jack is progressing in his job search so he will be out of your hair soon. How is dad's heartburn doing? Any better since they put him on those new meds? I hope so, he was hurting when we were there for Christmas. And last but not least how is everything going with you? I did get a kick of your facebook post that hit my newsfeed where you were arguing with someone about claiming some gravesite. I don't know how you do that genealogy stuff without going insane.

Things here are just fine but we've had news from our other family. Julie as you know has inoperable cancer and her husband called us to let us know she was fading fast and we ought to come up and see her while she's still lucid. We had planned to go up in May because her doctors gave her two years just back at Christmas but I don't think she's going to make it. So, we are planning a trip up there in the next two weeks. We'll come by and visit you while we are there.

Well, that's all I had for today, just checking in. Let me know how everyone is doing and take care.

Prisoner 980854:

I screwed up. I know you already knew that but I need to say it. At first it was supposed to be small, small enough to fall through the cracks. But we got greedy. One job led to another, and before I knew it we were robbing a bank. They said nothing could go wrong, that it would be easy money. We had scoped out the place a few days prior, security seemed lax. Overweight mall cops with nightsticks, not a gun in sight. That means that if we had the guns they'd have to listen to us. We were supposed to walk in, demand money, and walk out. Nobody would try anything because we had guns. But there's always a goddamned hero. It was going smooth as butter, everyone got down and the tellers were filling sack after sack of dough. Was my job to watch over the civvies, make sure none of them tried nothing fishy. I screwed up, turned my back. One of them had a Colt on him, shot Joey straight in the back. He turned his gun on me, I didn't know what to do. I was never supposed to kill anyone, that's not how it was supposed to happen. He turned his gun on me, and at that point it was me or him. So I shot him. Straight through the head. Job went to hell after that, became a hostage situation and that never ends well for anyone. Snuck out the back and turned myself in. They said I'm in for life but there's a chance I'll get parole. If it wasn't for the thought of seeing you two again I'd ask for the noose. I'm so sorry. Tell Lili I'm sorry for missing her birthday party yesterday. I love both of you.

Prisoner 126993:

Hello dearest family member,

Even in prison, you can be free.

I am detained but will be doing my best to get out soon. In the meantime, do not worry. I am fine and doing well.
Although the trials and tribulations in prison are tough, know that I have support of my brothers/sisters in prison and that I will do everything in my power to see you again.

In the meantime, I wish you the best and know I will always be there for you and I will never betray you. I am loyal to the end. Always and forever.

Take my life as an example; bear witness to its tragedy, hold close those whom you love, and value your family.

With Respect,

Prisoner [REDACTED]

Prisoner 606386:

Dear Bartholomew,

It's been a long time since I've spoke to you. You probably think I got myself into the mess I'm in, and there's no way that I can prove to you that I didn't. But you can. I know you don't trust me anymore and I don't expect you to, and I know you don't even want to see my face anymore, I remember everything. But I promise that if you do this favor for me, you can clear my name. I know there's nothing in it for you so feel free to rip this letter into pieces or throw it in the fireplace, but if you care about the truth as much as I know you do then stop by the alley on the corner of Capulin and Trinchera (by Southlawn Park) tonight and there will be a mutual friend to show you what happened. In any case, I wish the best for you. And with your help I may be able to get out of here before they send me to the chair.

Sincerely, Florence.

Prisoner 331347:

Hi there brother. Just wanted to thank you for taking the time to visit your older bro in prison. Things have been lonelier since ma and pa disowned me. It hurts to believe they won't even have enough faith in their own son to believe his innocence.

I'm still working on that case. I think I've got the angle to prove it, I just need to figure out how to get the higher ups to listen to the opinion of an incarcerated inmate. I'll keep you posted.

Come back to visit soon, alright?

Prisoner 419713:

Dear future self,

Life sucks.

From,
Your past self

Prisoner 541395:

Dear D,

Life on the inside is rough, rougher than I expected. I miss you. I miss my family. I miss my pets. I miss chocolate.

I’ve just met my cellmate, seems like a nice character. Not as chatty as I am, but maybe that’s a blessing. He seems to be a helpful fellow. I’d like both of us to make it out of this hell hole, so we can both see our families again.

For now I’m occupying my time daydreaming about different ways to kill the Warden. I imagine I could do an awful lot with just a melted down, sharpened toothbrush. Just hope that one day I get the chance. I think once the other prisoners smell blood in the water they’ll be quick to run to my aid. We’ve got to get that guy, he’s the worst. He has a terrible comb over, and his breath often smells of tuna.

Looks like it’s lights out now. Stay safe until I get out. I’ll be more than ready for a decent meal, and a nice, long, hot shower. And real sheets. On a real bed. Please tell everyone I asked about them, and send my love.

~I

Prisoner 792787:

Dear Uncle Pete,
I realize that it has been a while since I have written, and for that I apologize. My beekeeping has been keeping me exceptionally busy. For now, I seem to have fend off any threat of hive collapse, and honey production has resumed its normal pace. With any luck, I hop to start selling jars again by this time next month.

But enough about my troubles. I received your communication about your nurses stealing from you. This is most distressing indeed! I intend to come by at my earliest convenience and investigate the matter for myself. As you know, however, the state did not see fit to grant me sole conservatorship over your case, reserving that privilege instead to you estranged and, dare I say, odious wife. I do not like to speak ill of others, but I think we can all agree that you have been badly ill-used by that woman, and continue to be so to the extent that she maintains control of your affairs. With this in mind, I do not know how much I can do to relieve your situation. A transfer or outright release is out of the question, without Mildred's permission at least. Nevertheless, I intend to make inquiries and see if there is anything that can be done.

In the meantime, you must endeavor to persevere unassisted. Remember what I told you about how to talk to the doctors. You know what they want from you, but the secret is to give it to them in a way that does not appear false or manipulative. Above all, avoid references to your hidden companion, for his mention only makes them more hostile towards you. I dare not say more, for fear that this letter may be intercepted, but we can discuss the matter further upon my arrival.

I fear I must conclude my letter, for the sound of wheels on gravel outside my window informs me that my investors have arrived, and I must attend to business. After the contracts have been settled, I should be free to make the drive up to see you. Until then, I remain as always your loving nephew,
- L

[Tangrowth]

One thing I love about this site is the people care about each other. It is foreign to me because I come from a place where we are at each other's throats more often than not. It's an adjustment for me but a good one. I really, really like it!!

I'm with Daisy and Scotty here; this is what really makes all of this so worthwhile to me, personally. Especially with my current lifestyle, I have next to no social life, so all of you folks here are my social life. I also founded this site as a way to connect the people I grew to know via mafia in Lostpedia-based communities, as well as those I introduced mafia to but had always discussed music with at ProgArchives and such, and lastly people I knew from various facets of my RL (birdwithteeth11, Boomslang, Draconus, and Russtifinko were the groomsmen at our wedding last August, in addition to my brother), so I've always viewed this as a community of friends who get to spend time together crafting memories playing these games. Yeah, they're inevitably tense games, but as Scotty noted, in the end it's all about the interaction and the time spent getting to know each other throughout and outside of the games, and I couldn't be happier with the community that has developed since I started this site a few years back. You all are really such a significant portion of my life, and what makes me truly happy is knowing that so many of you feel the exact same way.

It's always refreshing to see new blood who really appreciate it as much as the rest of us do, and I hope you and ika continue to enjoy things around here.

[Silverwolf]

I was 126993

[Silverwolf]

You guys are so nice.

[Tangrowth]

I was 126993

Yeah, my bad, I wasn't keeping track of those with the prisoner's real identities as well, but yeah, there's a prisoner key in my ISO somewhere over the past less than 24 hours. Or you could just say which one's yours, that works too. :P

[ika]

i was ther person who said life sucks

[Tangrowth]

i was ther person who said life sucks

Yeah, that was a pretty good impression of what a prisoner would be thinking in the slammer, good and concise.

I was so intrigued to see all the different submissions; they were pretty neat!

[Scotty]

i was ther person who said life sucks

Yeah, that was a pretty good impression of what a prisoner would be thinking in the slammer, good and concise.

I was so intrigued to see all the different submissions; they were pretty neat!

How would you know? Have you been there?

Gather round, Boy Scouts. We gots story time about a naughty sock!

[Tangrowth]

i was ther person who said life sucks

Yeah, that was a pretty good impression of what a prisoner would be thinking in the slammer, good and concise.

I was so intrigued to see all the different submissions; they were pretty neat!

How would you know? Have you been there?

Gather round, Boy Scouts. We gots story time about a naughty sock!

Uhhh... no, of course I haven't been to prison.