There was an earlier post where Epi stated the fact that there's no way to keep Yin from killing....then INH quetioned if this was a role claim (which he then later stated he didn't buy it). But either way, this makes no sense!!! Why the hell would anybody claimed to be the last member of a baddie team during a lynch phase??? It wuold serve no purpose other than to pain a target on themself and stand to gain nothing in return.Russtifinko wrote:Soooo, I'm the one you can trust most, but then Epi says "You should vote Russ." and you vote Russ? Are you that easily swayed? Color me perplexed, at best, and a little frustrated.BigDamnHero wrote:So obviously Epi got whammied by an item or else he wouldn't install vote one person and then recommend several other vote another. I'm gonna take time to which one of you other bastards I can trust. ATM, I'm leaning Russ, but that could very easily change.
To my civ counterpart, don't give up hope. I had previously thought that our victory was already squashed, but we've got a Hail Mary shot at taking the baddie teams out.
Keep in mind, this is the same Epi who's been wrong 4 times in a row, and who has been so convinced I'm bad he's come up with 3 different baddie teammates for me, 2 of whom are now dead civs.
I earlier thought this was signs of him being yang, but I think there's another role that could explain his cavalier attitude here...
I got some small validation with that timmer death, so I'm now 1/2 on calling baddies. I think you can do the math here.
so basically your record is a coin flip...and that's somehow supposed to give you civ cred?
BDH, to answer your question, Elo is definitely bad in my book right now. She voted me yesterday, reread us, and decided to vote DF. Then she voted me again today as soon as Epi said jump. Which, honestly, is the same you did, but circumstances being what they are, I don't really buy that you're bad regardless. I figure her for a probable Cop.
if Elo is definitely bad then in your book why didn't you just vote her right away? ESPECIALLY because of your next statement...
I think BWT is likely bad as well. Between Epi and INH I'm really torn on the final baddie; my vote for Epi yesterday was admittedly reactive and somewhat emotionally-driven, and INH has been agreeing with me a lot, which is making him harder for me to judge. So I am actually open to changing my vote, no matter what Epi says. (Preferably to Elo or BWT, but to INH if I feel there's a compelling-enough case against him.)
And speaking of pretending to be willing to change your vote, this strikes me as funny in hindsight:
Epignosis wrote:Of course not. I was always voting Russ.Elohcin wrote:B/c of DF's last post?Epignosis wrote:Voted Russ again.
No I had early been working under a potential theory with the hypothesis of him being the independant, but him saying he thought Eloh was kinda pokes a hole in that. So stripping away ALL of the he-said-she-said, this case, that case, opinions, etc. and looking at things PURELY through a logical filter, Epi is the one coming up as one the last 3 baddies.
linkin @Epi: say we lynch a cop...that leaves 2 civs (who can't be sure of each other), an indy (who is out for himself) a cop and a serial killer. The serial killer has already (presumeably) decided who dies after the lynch. That killer is the ONLY person who can basically guarantee a kill since there are still condtions attached to the cop NK and the civs don't have one. Then come Day 9, we are just right back where we started.
The only power (aside from a conditional NK) the cops have is to vote together. so IF we can lynch Yin today and not spilt vote tomorrow, this defuses that advantage considerably.