Elemental Mafia - Day 7

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #1601

So if one of the psionics is lynched today, can you fuse with the other and use it against them? Cool.
Also if the psionic is the one who did the targeting last night, I guess it doesn't matter which one (you don't have to worry about alternating your target).

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #1602

OK, joining INH in voting speedchuck. After 30 seconds of thought I've concluded that this is pretty obviously the correct choice.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #1603

I mean, that is, unless INH totally trolls and betrays me. But he needs me.

#1604

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2017 3:01 pm You've hinted at some ulterior motive for specifically targeting Bass. He was my fellow Earth. Then, a psionic fused with me and killed Daisy. Now there's only one Holy.

You're the one who killed daisy, yo.

#1605

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2017 4:08 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2017 3:01 pm You've hinted at some ulterior motive for specifically targeting Bass. He was my fellow Earth. Then, a psionic fused with me and killed Daisy. Now there's only one Holy.
You're the one who killed daisy, yo.

I wasn't.

This conversation is kinda pointless. You don't have any more proof that I killed her than I have that I didn't.

Even if you didn't kill her, you'd still have no way of knowing whether or not your Psionic compatriot did, unless you were both working together, of course.

#1606

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:50 am
Black Rock wrote: ↑Sat May 20, 2017 4:49 pm

There will be only one winner. Unless that changes.

Alive:
insertnamehere - Earth
nutella - Died Night 3 - Water - Reborn Night 5
Quin - Psionic
speedchuck - Psionic
Tranq - Holy
Here's something that's been bothering me. The "unless that changes" clause. My strong suspicion is that two people can get to the end together and both win, as long as they're the same element.

The only remaining pair is Quin and Speed, and they've been pretty much in sync this entire game.

I think breaking up this potentially game-ending power couple should be our top priority.

I respectfully disagree.

#1607

INH, as it stands, you've got three powers up your arsenal.

1. A night kill
2. A night kill deflection
3. Taking yourself off the lynch poll

Not my favourite person to keep alive. Thoughts?

#1608

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2017 5:40 pm INH, as it stands, you've got three powers up your arsenal.

1. A night kill
2. A night kill deflection
3. Taking yourself off the lynch poll

Not my favourite person to keep alive. Thoughts?

I've already committed to using my night kill to destroy my ability to night kill.

Also, don't all of you also have three powers up your arsenal? Why are mine publicized and targeted while everyone else acts like they're practically sterile?

The only reason that I seem like I have an unequally powerful set of fusions is because I'm the only one who has been honest about their fusion results. Everyone else keeps their powers to themselves, while I share them with the group.

I guess I was naive to think that'd build up my reputation for candor instead of putting a big red target on my back.

#1609

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2017 10:18 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2017 10:05 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2017 9:54 pm Shower is occupied. So I must wait a bit.

How am I a massive threat? I targeted Glorfindel Night 1 and can't be lynched one time.

I targeted DH Night 2 and killed Wilgy.

I'm just playing the game- no more and no less than anybody else is. You're trying to make up "threatening" people to get others to do what they want. I'm not a threat. I'm the opposite of that. I'm someone who came in declaring that he would help someone else win. That person isn't on your little squad.

So hell yeah, I'm a threat to your squad. If I get night killed, so what? I'm used to that and have no control over that. What I don't want to see is your pissy little "Anybody can work with us but not really" team get an advantage over the outsiders.

But the outsiders are voting for other outsiders, so eh.
My "pissy little team" which you took instant offense to for no discernable reason other than petty spite, even though it wasn't targeting you, and you could have easily joined the damn alliance if you were that damn threatened by it, wasn't in direct conflict with you until you decided to start one.

Also, I feel like we have a difference of opinion. We both keep reiterating two opposite viewpoints.

I say the Alliance is open to everyone and only a threat to people who don't want to join.

You say that the Alliance is a closed-off aristocracy and force some weird "insiders, outsiders" dichotomy.

Since I'm actually in the Alliance, I feel like I know more than you about what it actually is. Yet, you keep on keeping on.

I hope it was worth tanking both yours and Elo's game in an effort to tank mine.
You're not tanking my game. My game is never tanked in LMS. I go in and do exactly what I want, every time, free from the constraints of worrying about good judgment.

And do you know what?

I have never once betrayed someone in LMS. Not once. I've always been straight with people.

So what does this mean, outsiders?

I have told you this much:

1. I am doing my best to ensure one person wins (everybody will assume that's Eloh, but it isn't- if she wins, great, but I don't go out of my way to help or hinder her in these).

2. I've already disclosed that the person I am working toward helping isn't in the clique.

Therefore, given all that, would you, outsiders, rather burn a lynch on me when you could be voting for the people I don't want to win? Wouldn't you rather force them to find a way to Night kill me instead of you?

The one difference between me and everybody else here is that I'm not here for myself, and I've demonstrated that every single LMS game I've ever participated in.

Yet I have more votes than INH, Mr. Manipulator.

Y'all have fun getting backstabbed. I'll be around to see some of it.

#1610

Lynching speedchuck means both INH and nutella could be off the poll tomorrow. Which leaves only myself and Quin on the lynch poll. A 50% chance of getting lynched next.

Lynching INH means no more Earth/Psionic NK, and 4 players on the next poll. A 25% chance of getting lynched next.

Right now i'm thinking INH. I need to think this through.

#1611

Tranq wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:20 pm Lynching speedchuck means both INH and nutella could be off the poll tomorrow. Which leaves only myself and Quin on the lynch poll. A 50% chance of getting lynched next.

Lynching INH means no more Earth/Psionic NK, and 4 players on the next poll. A 25% chance of getting lynched next.

Right now i'm thinking INH. I need to think this through.

If you lynch Speed, I'm going to fuse with Quin in order to gain an NK, which I will then use on Quin. Can't say what Nutella will do, but I'm definitely going to be on the lynch poll if I survive that long.

#1612

Isn't that the same thing? Lynch speedchuck + you NK Quin + nutella off the poll = only me and you on the next poll. Even worse, if Quin NKs you i could be the only one on the lynch poll! A 100% chance of getting lynched next

#1613

i ain't killed nobody. quin is a good boy.

#1614

Tranq wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:33 pm Isn't that the same thing? Lynch speedchuck + you NK Quin + nutella off the poll = only me and you on the next poll. Even worse, if Quin NKs you i could be the only one on the lynch poll! A 100% chance of getting lynched next

What about if I fuse with you tonight, protecting me from NKs. You do the same. Day 7, it's you, me, Quin, and maybE Nutella on the poll. Then, you can decide once again who you want to go with.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #1615

I believe that someone else should change their vote to speedchuck. Then everything would be great.

#1616

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:52 pm I believe that someone else should change their vote to speedchuck. Then everything would be great.

The threat of then being killed tonight isn't too appealing.

#1617

Home after a long day at the fair. Gimme a few minutes to get my bearings, and I'll post.

#1618

Totally Mental

The Psionics held a mental conference.

He's half of the only fatal reaction left.

True, but we're the other half.

He could use us to kill... us!

And we could do the same to him. Twice over. Your point?

I don't want to be killed. We need to figure out a way to outsmart him.

Yes. It is what we do best, isn't it?

I was just thinking the same!

If he's going to kill one of us tonight, it seems like the most prudent course of action would be to kill him before tonight.

And that is just what they did.

insertnamehere has been lynched. He was Earth.

#1619

Merged with nutella. I've made a huge mistake.

#1620

Tranq wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2017 1:49 am Merged with nutella. I've made a huge mistake.

lights a candle for tranq

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #1621

Tranq wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2017 1:49 am Merged with nutella. I've made a huge mistake.

Oh?

#1622

The Last Night They Ever Saw

Mediocrates yawned, and rubbed his aching head as he leaned over the experiment, ready to take some notes. Unfortunately, the current condition of the elements was... relatively stable. Not much to note.

Perhaps it was time to accelerate this experiment.

There are no kills left in the game, so night is kind of not necessary.

Lynch someone. If everyone states that their vote is permanent, perhaps I will be able to end the Day early and move directly to the next Day.

#1623

Looks like lynching INH was the best choice after all.

#1624

And so begins the beginning of the end of the end.

#1625

So what happens if there are only 2 players left? A coin flip?

#1626

Voted nutella.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #1627

Tranq wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2017 4:03 pmVoted nutella.

Why me? I think we should vote off one of the Psionics.

I'm voting speedchuck

#1628

Sorry nutella.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #1629

??????

I don't understand, why me over anyone else?

#1630

#1631

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2017 6:29 pm ??????

I don't understand, why me over anyone else?

Behind the scenes stuff. It'll all be clear soon.

Sorry, I hate to kill you a second time.

Wasn't expecting you to come back to life.

Finalize my vote.

#1632

My vote is permanent.

#1633

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2017 5:40 pmyou've got three powers up your arsenal.

#1634

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:41 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2017 5:40 pmyou've got three powers up your arsenal.

sounds kinky

#1635

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2017 11:44 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:41 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2017 5:40 pmyou've got three powers up your arsenal.

sounds kinky

#1636

#1637

Stasis

Mediocrates looked down at the elements on the table before him, elements which had seemingly reached a stasis point, all reactions ceased. Satisfied, he took his notebook and scrawled a final few notes.

The Holy/Psionic reaction has overwhelmed the other elements in an almost parasitic way. Certain reactions may have caused hallucinations; next time around, safety apparatus will be of the utmost importance. Still... some of the insights gained will take time and meditation to fully analyze. Disposal of the elements commencing.

The alchemist swept the elements from the table into a trash bin. As he turned away, a glimmer caught his eye. A fragment of Holy had remained on the table, glimmering and shifting in an uplifting way. As he reached for it, it began to ascend, floating up to the ceiling and through... he could only assume, to Heaven.

Elemental Mafia has ended!

Tranq, speedchuck, and Quin have won the game!

#1638

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #1639

Bullpoop.

#1640

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2017 2:00 pm The alchemist swept the elements from the table into a trash bin. As he turned away, a glimmer caught his eye. A fragment of Holy had remained on the table, glimmering and shifting in an uplifting way. As he reached for it, it began to ascend, floating up to the ceiling and through... he could only assume, to Heaven.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #1641

Congrats guys. I don't understand why you were all able to win together, but it's clear that I didn't have a chance even when I thought I did. If only INH hadn't been lynched, he could have killed one of you and taken us both off the poll so only Tranq would be on it and I thought INH and I would both survive/end in a draw... but you guys wouldn't let that happen because you had Secret Machinations. Oh well.

#1642

Psionic + Holy: Teammate - Holy and Psionic become teammates and gain permanent BTSC. If either of them win, they both win.

After the nutella lynch the plan was to lynch a Psionic (either speedchuck or Quin), and then next lynch have the other Psionic self-vote so i survived, allowing both of them to win anyway.

#1643

#1644

Add an Element Triple element brew
Blind Rage Your vote is worth 0 on any player other than your target until your target is eliminated. Your vote is worth 2 on your target.
Blind Vote Players will PM votes in the next lynch
Bomb You become a Bomb for the rest of the game; if you are lynched, someone who voted for you will also die
Boon Receive something you need
BTSC Knowledge You get to know who has had BTSC, and when
Coupler Link two players together by power effects and win condition
Curser Create a curse whose rules your target is required to follow
Deflector Anyone targeting you tonight will be deflected randomly to another target
Dust Storm Each player must vote for three people next lynch
Element Check Find out the elements of two players
Elemental Info Find out three combination results
Exchange Effects that target one player affect the other
Exchange Elements Spirit becomes Holy and vice versa
Fake Message Send a message to another player that appears to be from someone else
Forced Alliance Your target may not vote for you in the next three lynches
Hunger Put the Fear into
Immunity You will be removed from the poll the next day
Kill You may choose a player to kill tonight
Kill Craze Holy kills Darkness; Darkness gains a permanent kill
Kill Survive You will survive the next nightkill attempt
Kills Fire If Fire and Water interact, Fire will die
Lynch Deflect If you get lynched, someone else randomly gets it
Message Sender Send a message to the player of your choice
Null shield Protection from non-lethal effects tonight
Poison Choose a player and they will accumulate an extra vote each day for the rest of the game
Power Redirector Choose a new target for someone's power tonight, if applicable
Power Steal Choose a player and you will control their power tonight
Reborn If you die, you will come back to life after 2 phases.
Restore Balance All standing effects and stored powers are eliminated
Reveal Choose a player, and their action will be revealed in the night post
Role Blocker Target will not be able to use his role
Seduction Your target may not target you with harmful effects for the rest of the game
Showdown Poll You and your target are the only two on the following poll
Silence Target is limited to ten words today.
Teammate You and your target will gain BTSC and win together
Temp BTSC Gain BTSC with your target for the night
Two Lynched Top two in the next lynch will die
Vote +3 Three extra votes in the next lynch
Vote Nullify Make someone's vote worth zero in the next lynch
Vote Remove You may remove two votes from yourself at some point in the game

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #1645

Tranq wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2017 2:24 pm Psionic + Holy: Teammate - Holy and Psionic become teammates and gain permanent BTSC. If either of them win, they both win.

After the nutella lynch the plan was to lynch a Psionic (either speedchuck or Quin), and then next lynch have the other Psionic self-vote so i survived, allowing both of them to win anyway.

Ohhh I get it now. Cool.

#1646

The final game situation was not what we intended, but half of you had kills, and failed to use them on speedchuck, who openly made an alliance with Holy in the thread early on. That was a big mistake. Our mistake was letting Spacedaisy join the game as a Holy. She should have just been a Fire. Holy was originally intended to be a one-of element with some great power possibilities, and the game couldn't handle two Holies that no one had the wherewithal to lynch or kill, even in the face of obvious advantage-taking.

Spacedaisy and Glorfindel did not end up winning, because Tranq was decided as the Last Man Standing. Both Psionics received a Teammate Win because of it. If speedchuck had won, then Tranq, Glorfindelk, and Spacedaisy would have won as a result. Quin's win would have brought along Tranq and Spacedaisy. This situation was caused by abuse of the Teammate power created by mixing Holy and Psionic, and secondarily by Holy and Spirit switching elements.

The entire game was directed by unlikely coincidence. Both Fires killed by Water before Night 1. Six kills on Night 2 (although S~V~S chose not to use hers for some reason).

Anyway, thanks for playing this experimental game. We learned a lot, and I hope that you'll play Elemental Mafia 2 someday when it comes around. Armed with the knowledge we now have, we are already planning ways to make it better. Suggestions are more than welcome - I think there is a lot of potential with this kind of concept.

#1647

Thanks everyone for making this a piece of cake for the MoD!

#1648

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2017 2:14 pm Congrats guys. I don't understand why you were all able to win together, but it's clear that I didn't have a chance even when I thought I did. If only INH hadn't been lynched, he could have killed one of you and taken us both off the poll so only Tranq would be on it and I thought INH and I would both survive/end in a draw... but you guys wouldn't let that happen because you had Secret Machinations. Oh well.

Told y'all.

#1649

Maybe next time don't announce your element right off the bat INH

#1650

Fun little things:

Epignosis and Elohcin both randomly getting Metal. We thought they'd get Temp BTSC night 1 and start the first alliance
Glorfindel getting to be Holy. Perfect for that saint of a man.
Sprityo as Spirit. LOL Spirityo!

Who is going down today?