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Lugia: Who be a killah?

Poll ended at Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:51 pm

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G-Man wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:03 am I see Quin is still listed on the poll. Mistake, mechanics, or mind-screw? :ponder:
vote me 4 rezz
Lunalee wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
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Re: Pokemon Mafia [Night 9]

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Damn. I wish I'd had time to play yesterday. Sorry guys, I suck as civ.
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Huh... Well, well played whoever you are, I was certain neverwhere was the last.
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Re: Pokemon Mafia [Night 9]

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I'm going to give wilgy a vote and see where that takes us.
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Of course two out of my three civ reads are bad.

I'm gonna follow Boo. I still think he is a civ, and I still think Gman is not-mafia. Hopefully at least this one read is right and Mewtwo fails to kill tonight.

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Also there is a high chance I will miss the end of the phase. It will depend on 3g signal and phone batteries. We'll see. So Im voting now just to be safe.
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Re: Pokemon Mafia [Night 9]

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G-Man wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:00 am Intriguing. I'd have figured that Boo would be killed if DDL is the last baddie. Perhaps it's an attempt to make us doubt Boo as a civvie. Regardless, this kill gets rid of a likely DDL vote, which might net another split vote.

Is it DDL trying to give himself a sporting chance?

Or could it be Boo trying to make himself look even more civ via wifom (why kill someone who can help you win?)?

Or is it Wilgy trying to orchestrate a guaranteed mislynch between me and DDL?

Oh the humanity. Oh the tinfoil! :omg:
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Re: Pokemon Mafia [Night 9]

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boo wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:38 am Huh... Well, well played whoever you are, I was certain neverwhere was the last.
When did you become sure of that? And how?
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(I mean I dont know for sure G is mewtwo but I wanted to say that)
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I'm leaving for vacation after work and Boo's turnaround on Wilgy/Dragon has my brain all higgledy-piggledy. Fantastic.
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Re: Pokemon Mafia [Night 9]

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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:15 am
boo wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:38 am Huh... Well, well played whoever you are, I was certain neverwhere was the last.
When did you become sure of that? And how?
When she said she was silenced and forced to vote when as far as I can tell that hadnt happened up until this point. I thought she was lying.
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I guess it is a one-shot. Silencing a player isnnt very powerful, but forcing them to make a vote is.
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Re: Pokemon Mafia [Night 9]

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In looking back, Dyslexicon voted without posting the day before Neverwhere did. Coincidence? I think not.

Boo, what makes you suspect Wilgy now after being on DDL's case for so long?
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Re: Pokemon Mafia [Night 9]

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Good morning. Why do I have two votes?
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Re: Pokemon Mafia [Night 9]

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DrWilgy wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:36 am Good morning. Why do I have two votes?
I'm hoping to find that out as well. DDL's vote makes sense, as he believes Boo and I are civ. Boo's vote eludes me. My vote needs to come by 4:30 because the beach is calling.
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Re: Pokemon Mafia [Night 9]

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G-Man wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:29 am In looking back, Dyslexicon voted without posting the day before Neverwhere did. Coincidence? I think not.

Boo, what makes you suspect Wilgy now after being on DDL's case for so long?
Neverwhere flipping civ isn't at all what I expected, so I'm changing gears.

I honestly have no idea which of you is bad at this point. So, honestly, I'm going with wilgy because I think it's the best way I can help myself, but there's just as good a chance it ruins things for me. Although the odds are lousy no matter what I do, so... Meh. It's been a fun game, I just played the early part poorly. I kept expecting the NK strategy to change, and it really burned me that until neverwhere, it stayed the same.
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Re: Pokemon Mafia [Night 9]

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Basically comes down to you now gman. I can't imagine ddl is going to move his vote, and I'm not going to unless he does. My best bet is to vote with him, and you, if possible.

Or you and wilgy can vote for him or me together, and force a tie and see what happens. For what it's worth, forcing the tie on me would help no one, whereas doing it on ddl might work out for you. I dunno. You might as well flip a coin to decide at this point, unless you know more than you have let on.
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Re: Pokemon Mafia [Night 9]

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So we are in a 2 v 1 v 1. DDL jumped on Boo's vote immediately (or at least before I woke up). The only explanation for this is that DDL either has to be 3rd party or Mafia. I don't think DDL is my teammate, If he is then his vote was very unwise.

@G-Man, regarding the perspective observation you made. I agree with you, throughout this game I have seen Boo amd DDL refer to civs as if they weren't one. The one that stood out the strongest was boo saying that "civs deserve to lose."

@Boo why are you still alive?
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Re: Pokemon Mafia [Night 9]

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I get it, you don't care who gets lynched today do you boo?
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Re: Pokemon Mafia [Night 9]

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DrWilgy wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:36 am Good morning. Why do I have two votes?
Someone has to be bad and all my suspects are dead.

Boo can't be bad after the DF lynch.

Gman has looked good in the sprit lynch plus there is the evolution slip.

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Re: Pokemon Mafia [Night 9]

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DrWilgy wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:39 am I get it, you don't care who gets lynched today do you boo?
Pretty much. It's unlikely to help me however it goes, you're just slightly ahead on the odds playing out for me, I think.
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G-Man wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:50 am
DrWilgy wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:36 am Good morning. Why do I have two votes?
I'm hoping to find that out as well. DDL's vote makes sense, as he believes Boo and I are civ. Boo's vote eludes me. My vote needs to come by 4:30 because the beach is calling.
I believe Boo is a civ and you are the indie.
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Re: Pokemon Mafia [Night 9]

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Wait did boo just hint mewtwo.

I need to read this first
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Re: Pokemon Mafia [Night 9]

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Wilgy who did you vote for last night?
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:10 am Wait did boo just hint mewtwo.

I need to read this first
Nah, I'm just a masochist in screw it all mode. It's pure chance at this point, I just don't feel the need to overthink this any more. It just hasn't worked all game.
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You keep referring to your side with "I" instead of "we"

When there is another civ (me)
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Or not you. I dunno who it is.
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Point is, there is someone else.
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Re: Pokemon Mafia [Night 9]

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I'm desperate now. I just googled the four remaining pokemon left to see if there's anything useful there. DDL, you may need to steer me straight on this.

TORCHIC *fire* {ground, water, rock}
COMBUSKEN *fire, fighting* {psychic, flying, ground, water}
BLAZIKEN *fire, fighting* {psychic, flying, ground, water}

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IGGLYBUFF *normal, fairy* {poison, steel}
JIGGLYPUFF *normal, fairy* {poison, steel}
WIGGLYTUFF *normal, fairy* {poison, steel}

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MEWTWO *psychic* {dark, bug, ghost}

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INKAY *psychic, dark* {fairy, bug}
MALAMAR *psychic, dark* {fairy, bug}


So basically, Torchic might not be weak to anyone left but Combusken and Blaziken are weak to both Mewtwo and Inkay/Malamar (both psychic). Iggly/Jiggly/Wiggly isn't weak to anyone. Mewtwo is weak to Inkay/Malamar (psychic). Inkay/Malamar is weak to Iggly/Jiggly/Wiggly (fairy).

But... we don't know if/how this factors into our game, so did I just waste my time?
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Re: Pokemon Mafia [Night 9]

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Lol
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Also you are just considering the defensive side. The table is assymetrical. Like, fighting is weak to psychic and psychic resists fighting. But while normal is weak to fighting, fighting does not resist normal.

I seriously doubt Epi implemented every aspect of it tho, assuming he did implement it at all.
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Actually sorry, you are consedering every side, just not the resistances. Ignore the first sentece of the post above.
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:04 pm Actually sorry, you are consedering every side, just not the resistances. Ignore the first sentece of the post above.
If what I wrote makes sense to you, then that's awesome. I don't understand it one bit.
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Re: Pokemon Mafia [Night 9]

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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:11 am Wilgy who did you vote for last night?
I've stopped submitting evo points altogether.

@DDL, why was G-man 3rd party in your head?
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Re: Pokemon Mafia [Night 9]

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I'd like everyone's thoughts on e/o.

Boo is 3rd party. I've concluded that.

G-Man - Looked too during Sprityo lynch, didn't look good at any point following that. It has taken me awhile, but agreeing with observations does not indicate him being my teammate. The "black whole" evo point confusion gives me hesitation. Would G-man discuss such matters in BTSC then accidentally blurt in thread while confused?

DDL - I was very much suspicious of you until the DF lynch. You being under suspicion from me also may have been your insensitive to bus. You piggybacking Boo's vote is very unsettling as I'm 100% sure he's not your teammate if you have one.
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Re: Pokemon Mafia [Night 9]

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I'm voting DDL at the moment. Let's see what happens.
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Re: Pokemon Mafia [Night 9]

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I hate being the last one to vote in such crucial situations.

Boo still gets a pass from me for the DFaraday lynch. If he's mafia, he is a conniving cut-throat and he engaged in one of the hardest busses I've ever seen to gain strategic advantage. If he's MewBoo, as you suggest, then I don't know what comes next.

DDL still pings me for a lot of little reasons. I have to try to piece them back together to see if they make sense.

As for you, my dear Wilgy, I've forgotten what moved you from my sus list. Yesterday I was eyeing DDL and Quin. I need to go back and find what cleared you for me and revisit that line of thought.

I won't be voting for Boo and I can't vote for myself, so I need to figure you two out. In the next three-ish hours. During a crazy busy work day. While also distracted by thoughts of my approaching vacation. Tough stuff.
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Re: Pokemon Mafia [Night 9]

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DrWilgy wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:38 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:11 am Wilgy who did you vote for last night?
I've stopped submitting evo points altogether.

@DDL, why was G-man 3rd party in your head?
There is a post way back where Gman shows is not aware of the possibility of a pokemon needing to evolve first in order to have abilities. I felt it wasnt something mafia would try to fake. Too specific.

When I called him out, he implied he was a normal type pokemon and that he thought that applied to normals. So he either telling the truth, or he is Mewtwo lying.
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And Im still reading Boo as civ, so Gman is indie by elimination.
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Re: Pokemon Mafia [Night 9]

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boo wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:57 pmI think it no longer matters. The civs just lost. Mostly because at this point, they deserve to, imo.
Boo is not civilian, and based on his actions toward DF I think he's a pro-town mewboo. If he is pro-town though, his vote right now is wrong.
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Re: Pokemon Mafia [Night 9]

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Oops, I mean:

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Re: Pokemon Mafia [Night 9]

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DrWilgy wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:17 pm
boo wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:57 pmI think it no longer matters. The civs just lost. Mostly because at this point, they deserve to, imo.
Boo is not civilian, and based on his actions toward DF I think he's a pro-town mewboo. If he is pro-town though, his vote right now is wrong.
I am still considering that possibility. But in either scenario, you are the contrarian squid.
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I come down to the question of whether or not Sprityo was reckless enough to omit both of his teammates from his preferred lynch list.
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Re: Pokemon Mafia [Night 9]

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Does it mean anything at this point
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It depends. Do you want my vote?
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Re: Pokemon Mafia [Night 9]

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No I mean

Just how precise do you think this piece of evidence is regarding who to vote for.

The fact you are seeing it as a 50-50 already shows it is wifom.
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If Boo is mafia, then he outplayed us in stunning fashion. That leaves you and Wilgy. I'm already an hour later at the office than I had hoped. I want to be on the way to the beach. This vote aggravates me.
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