Pokemon Mafia [ENDGAME]

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I can't either.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Guys, are you still sending evolution votes?

I was wondering if we could try to reveal who we voted for all game, and maybe try to use that to analyse each other.

Just an idea.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

i like this. If the baddie was blocked, someone knows who they are. If the baddie abstained or failed to send in the kill, they just gave us an extra day to hunt them down.

They didn't. Now we get to endgame with four players instead of three, and it will be decided by RNG.

Unless we get another kill miss.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Hey Neverwhere (and apparently Boo) I get that you want to lynch me but will you at least talk to others about the game and discuss your reads while at that?

This "I shall do nothing until DDL is dead" is huring the civs more than anything.

We need to talk as much as we can.

[DrWilgy]

Guys, are you still sending evolution votes?

I was wondering if we could try to reveal who we voted for all game, and maybe try to use that to analyse each other.

Just an idea.

I like this idea, I'll go flip through my pm's and let you know later.

As for now. It is time for work.

[G-Man]

I evo voted for the following:

D0: Timmer
N1: Dom
N2: Boo
N3: Dom
N4: Boo
N5: Tink
N6: Neverwhere
N7: Tink
N8: [Abstained]

I threw votes at Dom back when he was AWOL because it seemed safe to vote for a non-player rather than risk voting for an active baddie by accident. Then Quin replaced Dom on Day 4, which ended that plan. I abstained last night just to be safe. There's a chance that everyone here has evolved already anyway but I abstained in case the last baddie still needed one more vote.

[Epignosis]

I tried to fix the poll. How weird is this?


Joy (The Hosts, the Non, the Dead)
5
83%


Voters: Jackofhearts2005Jackofhearts2005Jackofhearts2005Jackofhearts2005, Epignosis



It should work now.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I gave the idea but Ill also have to wait till I get home to post my votes.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I tried to fix the poll. How weird is this?


Joy (The Hosts, the Non, the Dead)
5
83%


Voters: Jackofhearts2005Jackofhearts2005Jackofhearts2005Jackofhearts2005, Epignosis



It should work now.

Well, I am a Trump supporter, so...

/sarcasm

[G-Man]

I just sat through a three-hour demo for a potential accounting system upgrade. My brain is fried. I will come back in a few hours when I've calmed down from how chaotic work may become if we pull the trigger on this.

[DrWilgy]

I'm sure my list will help us in finding this last baddie

Let's compare.
d0 - Missed
n1 - JoH
n2 - LC
n3 - Mac
n4 - G-Man
n5 - Mac
n6 - Quin
n7 - DDL
n8 - Missed

[Dragon D. Luffy]

d0: Dizzy
n1: Boo
n2: Wilgy
n3: Gman
n4: Nutella
n5: Gman
n6: Boo
n7: Dizzy
n8: Gman

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Not sure what to gather from those, tbh.

I know I want to lynch either Quin or Never tho.

I think I'll ISO them. Brb.

[boo]

Why'd you give dizzy a point n7 ddl?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I didn't want to repeat previous votes and she was Next Best Thing.

Also I was under the impression I had given more votes to Wilgy.

[Quin]

I evo voted for the following:

D0: Timmer
N1: Dom
N2: Boo
N3: Dom
N4: Boo
N5: Tink
N6: Neverwhere
N7: Tink
N8: [Abstained]

I threw votes at Dom back when he was AWOL because it seemed safe to vote for a non-player rather than risk voting for an active baddie by accident. Then Quin replaced Dom on Day 4, which ended that plan. I abstained last night just to be safe. There's a chance that everyone here has evolved already anyway but I abstained in case the last baddie still needed one more vote.

Why not just abstain all those other nights?

[G-Man]

I evo voted for the following:

D0: Timmer
N1: Dom
N2: Boo
N3: Dom
N4: Boo
N5: Tink
N6: Neverwhere
N7: Tink
N8: [Abstained]

I threw votes at Dom back when he was AWOL because it seemed safe to vote for a non-player rather than risk voting for an active baddie by accident. Then Quin replaced Dom on Day 4, which ended that plan. I abstained last night just to be safe. There's a chance that everyone here has evolved already anyway but I abstained in case the last baddie still needed one more vote.

Why not just abstain all those other nights?

It would have been boring that way. I voted where I saw something I liked, minus the Dom votes.

[Quin]

I evo voted for the following:

D0: Timmer
N1: Dom
N2: Boo
N3: Dom
N4: Boo
N5: Tink
N6: Neverwhere
N7: Tink
N8: [Abstained]

I threw votes at Dom back when he was AWOL because it seemed safe to vote for a non-player rather than risk voting for an active baddie by accident. Then Quin replaced Dom on Day 4, which ended that plan. I abstained last night just to be safe. There's a chance that everyone here has evolved already anyway but I abstained in case the last baddie still needed one more vote.

Why not just abstain all those other nights?

It would have been boring that way. I voted where I saw something I liked, minus the Dom votes.

I'm talking about the Dom votes. If you're bad, you gave points to a civilian who you knew wasn't going to be around. If you're town, you took a 50 50 shot on an unreadable player. I'd say you were better off not risking it and not giving points at all.

[Quin]

If the mafia team were strictly alternating their evolution points between them, sprityo should have evolved into Persian before the time he was lynched (since we gave points Night 0, Night 1 and Night 2). He hadn't, therefore they didn't.

[Quin]

It's also totally impossible that Dom was bad and wasn't around to send evo points, screwing with that whole process, by the way. Pinky promise.

[DrWilgy]

If the mafia team were strictly alternating their evolution points between them, sprityo should have evolved into Persian before the time he was lynched (since we gave points Night 0, Night 1 and Night 2). He hadn't, therefore they didn't.

Quin. I like this. I like this alot.

Do you know why?

[Quin]

If the mafia team were strictly alternating their evolution points between them, sprityo should have evolved into Persian before the time he was lynched (since we gave points Night 0, Night 1 and Night 2). He hadn't, therefore they didn't.

Quin. I like this. I like this alot.

Do you know why?

No

[DrWilgy]

It's also totally impossible that Dom was bad and wasn't around to send evo points, screwing with that whole process, by the way. Pinky promise.

Because bad Quin would've hid Dom's absence. This wouldn't have been pointed out.

[Quin]

It's also totally impossible that Dom was bad and wasn't around to send evo points, screwing with that whole process, by the way. Pinky promise.

Because bad Quin would've hid Dom's absence. This wouldn't have been pointed out.

In all honesty Quin would've pointed out Dom's absence because he's a masochist who likes to make himself look bad.

[Quin]

oh but that's totally not happening here k

[DrWilgy]

oh but that's totally not happening here k

Well then...

[Quin]

oh but that's totally not happening here k

Well then...

oi

[DrWilgy]

*points up*

[Dragon D. Luffy]

This is suspicious:

I remember that DFaraday more or less just said 'cool' to my case on boo when I initially posted it, and said he'd look into his votes which hasn't come to anything yet. It was only a disappointment then, but it's 'helped' reassure me in my read of boo, which I could do to hold off on to figure out how I feel about DFaraday.

@DFaraday, did you ever look through boo yourself? What did you think?

Wilgy, I got to page 2 of your ISO and still didn't have anything to talk about. That did annoy me, because you mentioned how you thrive better when there's stuff to talk about with you.

[Quin]

This is suspicious:

I remember that DFaraday more or less just said 'cool' to my case on boo when I initially posted it, and said he'd look into his votes which hasn't come to anything yet. It was only a disappointment then, but it's 'helped' reassure me in my read of boo, which I could do to hold off on to figure out how I feel about DFaraday.

@DFaraday, did you ever look through boo yourself? What did you think?

Wilgy, I got to page 2 of your ISO and still didn't have anything to talk about. That did annoy me, because you mentioned how you thrive better when there's stuff to talk about with you.

Talk about that.

[Quin]

*points up*

I noticed.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

This is suspicious:

I remember that DFaraday more or less just said 'cool' to my case on boo when I initially posted it, and said he'd look into his votes which hasn't come to anything yet. It was only a disappointment then, but it's 'helped' reassure me in my read of boo, which I could do to hold off on to figure out how I feel about DFaraday.

@DFaraday, did you ever look through boo yourself? What did you think?

Wilgy, I got to page 2 of your ISO and still didn't have anything to talk about. That did annoy me, because you mentioned how you thrive better when there's stuff to talk about with you.

Talk about that.

Possibly calling your teammate to help push a wagon on this guy you have been tiptoing around for a week.

[Quin]

This is suspicious:

I remember that DFaraday more or less just said 'cool' to my case on boo when I initially posted it, and said he'd look into his votes which hasn't come to anything yet. It was only a disappointment then, but it's 'helped' reassure me in my read of boo, which I could do to hold off on to figure out how I feel about DFaraday.

@DFaraday, did you ever look through boo yourself? What did you think?

Wilgy, I got to page 2 of your ISO and still didn't have anything to talk about. That did annoy me, because you mentioned how you thrive better when there's stuff to talk about with you.

Talk about that.

Possibly calling your teammate to help push a wagon on this guy you have been tiptoing around for a week.

In that post I say that I'm backtracking in my read on boo because of DFaraday. I don't see how you can interpret that.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Fine.

Still suspicious for the whole "calling DF" thing.

[G-Man]

I could vote for Quin. Dom being Sprityo and DFaraday's teammate makes some sense.

[Quin]

Fine.

Still suspicious for the whole "calling DF" thing.

I'm assuming by "Calling DF" you mean my question to him. In which case I'd say that it would be very silly of me to go along with his answer before coming up with some conclusion on DF if I'm bad.

[Quin]

I could vote for Quin. Dom being Sprityo and DFaraday's teammate makes some sense.

No it doesn't. How does it make sense?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I also haven't forgotten the attempt to do a CFD on the day DF got lynched for the second time, after voting for him in the first lynch.

CFD on Neverwhere, peeps? Got nothing at all to say about him. He and G-Man, maybe Dizzy are all on the PoE list I hate so much.

Why would you attempt a CFD when the person you tried to lynch yesterday and who survived because of abilities is being lynched again?

This looks actually worse than Never, since not only Never did not attempt to throw such a huge wrench at our successful baddie lynch, but she was also the second person to push a lynch on DF in the first lynch (you were the fourth, iirc).

[Quin]

I also haven't forgotten the attempt to do a CFD on the day DF got lynched for the second time, after voting for him in the first lynch.

CFD on Neverwhere, peeps? Got nothing at all to say about him. He and G-Man, maybe Dizzy are all on the PoE list I hate so much.

Why would you attempt a CFD when the person you tried to lynch yesterday and who survived because of abilities is being lynched again?

This looks actually worse than Never, since not only Never did not attempt to throw such a huge wrench at our successful baddie lynch, but she was also the second person to push a lynch on DF in the first lynch (you were the fourth, iirc).

I anticipated to take heat for this. I thought he was an unkillable Mewtwo. I was wrong.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

CFD, for those who don't know, is a tactic where someone suggests a new candidate out of nowhere near the end of the day, and they get lynched in a flash. It's how sprityo died. The theoretical advantage is that baddies can't react against it fast enough, and tend to look bad afterwards.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

You did comment on that at the time.

It's still an easy way out for the baddie team though. Convince everyone DF is our indie and get him out of jail. It almost worked.

But what about the fact you were only convinced to vote for DF when I showed you his interaction with Sprityo? Shouldn't that mean he is mafia instead of indie?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I see sprityo lurking.

Did Quin just go to Chatzy and start yelling OH SHIT THEY FOUND ME so sprit came to check it out?

[Quin]

You did comment on that at the time.

It's still an easy way out for the baddie team though. Convince everyone DF is our indie and get him out of jail. It almost worked.

But what about the fact you were only convinced to vote for DF when I showed you his interaction with Sprityo? Shouldn't that mean he is mafia instead of indie?

That was pre-survival. I thought he was bad then. His survival changed my thinking into believing he was indy. There was also a missed night kill around that time (before that, I think), and my theory at the time was that DF was the kill then too.

[Quin]

I see sprityo lurking.

Did Quin just go to Chatzy and start yelling OH SHIT THEY FOUND ME so sprit came to check it out?

booooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[G-Man]

I could vote for Quin. Dom being Sprityo and DFaraday's teammate makes some sense.

No it doesn't. How does it make sense?

I refer you to my "Jack's NK Night 1 was an unforced error" theory.

[Quin]

I could vote for Quin. Dom being Sprityo and DFaraday's teammate makes some sense.

No it doesn't. How does it make sense?

I refer you to my "Jack's NK Night 1 was an unforced error" theory.

Is that all you got, Fred? You spoke more about mafia theory and side-bar stuff on Day 1 than anything with teeth. On Day 2, you gave me one poke about my NK analysis and then disappeared, only to come in at the end of the day, expressing dismay at having no choice but to vote for one of Timmer or Boo because they were the top trains. You also tried to angle it as if my abstention was forcing us into a coin-flip (without even understanding how Epi and Simon break lynch ties).

Dude, I once posted in nothing but pics and memes for a whole game because I wanted to. Same goes for the time I posted like a Magic 8-Ball. Or the time I posted like the Old Spice guy (the man your man could smell like). Or the time I played in character as Dr. frickin' Evil. It's a free internet. Everyone still had a choice at the end of Day 2. My actions didn't force you or anyone else to do anything. Saying otherwise is just trying to pass the buck.

Speaking of my NK analysis, I still maintain that Jack's murder wasn't smart. Unless the baddies killed Jack because he came out and said that, despite all the argle-bargle with DDL, he thought DDL was civ, it's an unforced error. The only benefit to come out of it was getting rid of the most talkative player. Around here, talkative and sharp players don't get taken out right away or JaggedJimmyJay would be the first NK every time. That's why I think it makes sense for someone from Jack's or another mafia culture to be behind that. Perhaps they have a teammate that is barely around to bounce ideas off of. Whatever the case, it quieted down the thread and achieved little else.

Are you talking about this post, G-Man?

[DrWilgy]

I could vote for Quin. Dom being Sprityo and DFaraday's teammate makes some sense.

Can you argue for it not making sense?

I still want to lynch you, but I liked your responses to me. This is making me hesitant. I'll be pretty mad at myself if I'm wrong about you, but I think that's coming from how flared up I got towards you day 7.

I agree with Quins opinions on who you gave evo points to. Why so many towards inactives?

[G-Man]

I voted for Tink twice after we lynched Eloh because it clicked that Eloh had info on Tink. At least that's how I chose to interpret it. Neverwhere on Night 6 for the heck of it. Paranoia was setting in and I didn't trust any of the actives.

[DrWilgy]

I voted for Tink twice after we lynched Eloh because it clicked that Eloh had info on Tink. At least that's how I chose to interpret it. Neverwhere on Night 6 for the heck of it. Paranoia was setting in and I didn't trust any of the actives.

And Dom? Were you paranoid then too?

[G-Man]

I wasn't paranoid about Dom's status until someone subbed in for him. Then I did a