Guess Who? Mafia

#681

I'm feeling comfortable with a Hedge lynch. I'm also taking pause at the fact that MM agrees with the idea of Hedge being bad but won't vote her. That pause pulls me away slightly from the idea of a Golden lynch. So there it is.

#682

OK, I'm heading back to read epi, but this is now in an interesting position where timmer has voted hedgeowl as well as epi.

Given it's lylo, I don't feel great that two votes are already in when I feel like I'm nowhere near ready to make up my mind.

#683

I read epi back.

The thing that is most in his favour is obvious. He didn't just vote for DDL the first two days, he went after him fairly hard from the outset.

The one squiggly ear moment is that he did defend daisy as not being on team DDL.

The one interaction that seemed more or less missing was an epi/MM interaction. Given the votes that have already happened, I guess if the baddies are Epi and MM it's well played, good game.

Today's epi I find a little confusing. He simultaneously clears ninja AND suspects hedgeowl, and I can only see how he would be able to know one of those two

although I think if this really is info it's more likely he asked about hedgeowl rather than ninja, giving the timing of the vote.

The thing I'm most wary of here is a ninja/epi pairing that bussed DDL. Again, if that's the pairing, like with Epi/MM, we are already in trouble.

Epi does look the most civ out of everyone I've iso'd so far, though.

#684

I was given the oppurtunity to ask a question after Night 3.

I have trouble believing that Epignosis faked doing so for Night 4.

#685

To expound, I have tried to think of a reason that Epignosis would have come in with this wild case on Hedgeowl while also being a baddie, and I can't think of a logical one.

#686

I'm going to have to decide on my vote in the next hour or so.

Right now, I think any pairing of Epignosis or timmer with nijuu, Golden, or myself is off the table, because any such pairing that doesn't include Hedgeowl would be an automatic win (on the relatively safe assumption that Hedgeowl will miss the vote).

So the baddie team could be Epignosis and timmer

OR

Any combination of Golden, myself, and nijuu

OR

Hedgeowl with anybody else.

Thoughts?

#687

Metalmarsh89 wrote:To expound, I have tried to think of a reason that Epignosis would have come in with this wild case on Hedgeowl while also being a baddie, and I can't think of a logical one.

Yeah, I'm in the same boat, and that has me leaning towards hedgeowl.

Here is what I was thinking on my way to work.

Based on the way this has shaken out, there is only two ways I could legitimately vote and hope for this to work out.

Votes for you (MM), me and ninja are essentially off the table, since the one suspected would just vote hedge in self defence anyway. For this reason, I've decided not to ISO MM today anyway, because it's pointless.

That leaves two options.

1) Trust epi, vote for hedge
2) Vote for one of timmer and epi

Based on my reading back of everyone, I find timmer the more suspicious one.

And, looking at your time stamp, it appears your hour is nearly up. So what do you think?

#688

Come back, MM!

Turn up, ninja!

#689

Voting for timmer. Sorry I couldn't be around to chat.

#690

Golden wrote:Come back, MM!

Turn up, ninja!

I'm here! I've been traveling/on vacation with the family since Saturday, so my schedule is slightly less free

and I've caught up. I think.

I'm having a helluva time deciding who to vote for, but I'm leaning towards Hedge. Epi's actual case/pointing out Hedge's posts isn't actually what's convincing (I'm actually a bit confused as to what he's going for), but the fact that it is like that, and the comment made about why he would suddenly make this case and totally forget about me makes me think, like others, that he probably asked a question and got the answer he wanted. Epi doesn't usually back off my case that easily :P

I'm processing y'all's analyses of each other currently. One moment I'm convinced someone is bad, then a defense comes along and I'm back to square one. I'll just need to do my own legwork, I suppose, if I want a definite answer for myself.

MM, you've been asked this, but I'm curious too - if you're suspicious of Hedge today, why are you particularly hesitant to vote her? Absenteeism?

Linki -

#691

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Voting for timmer. Sorry I couldn't be around to chat.

No problem. I think we are on the same wavelength here.

I'm voting for Timmer too.

I hope ninja shows.

#692

Of course, if it's a ninja/epi team, we are sunk anyway. Fingers crossed.

#693

From what I've read, there is a trifecta of suspicion between Golden, timmer, and MM. I suppose it's on the level of who trusts whom (and by that I mean who I trust, which is almost no one). I don't even know what I said there. What I mean is, it's a matter of...no, never mind. I know what I mean in my head, but it's not coming out in a post. I'll see if I can say that with a clearer head later (provided I don't fuck this up!).

I gotta vote, so I'm going with Hedge. I feel better about that, due to what I said before and the theory of absenteeism and her teammates being overly concerned about it. I see the points about timmer, but I feel like Epi knows something I don't.

Linki - I'm not on a baddie team with that slithery bastard :P but I think he's good this game. I hope I don't eat my words.

#694

Heart in mouth. Wish elo was here.

I guess she can't technically post early though, given hedgeowl could yet theoretically turn up.

This is going to be a long 21 minutes.

#695

Good evening and thank you for playing Guess Who mafia. The original Guess Who rules state that "if you guess wrong, you lose the game". Civilians guessed right on two mafia members, but failed to guess the last two. The Guess Who mafia have won the game.

Congratulations to Dragon D. Luffy, Epignosis, Golden, and spacedaisy!

A huge thanks for ALL who participated in this game. I hope you all had lots of fun!
End game notes to come...don't go away

#696

Yay win!

#697

4/6 = 66.66%

God damnit, Golden is the devil incarnate.

I had a feeling Epi was up to no good. In fact, I was thinking of running a gambit that Eloh must have definitely cast her spouse as bad, just like he cast her as mafia in Biblical, but then I forgot to run it.

My spacedaisy read was still the best read I ever had in mafia so far and nothing can take that away.

#698

VICTORY

My first win on Mafia Syndicate

Good work team.

#699

After all that... no absentee baddie. I sniffed out Golden on my look back at the Day 1 lynch, but I never saw Epignosis at all.

Nice job, guys!! A well-deserved win!

#700

This marks a first for me as well: Despite winning a lot as Mafia, I have never thrown a member of my team under the bus Day 1.

#701

I want to mention this post from sign-ups

thellama73 wrote:I'm going to go ahead and predict that the baddies get crushed in this game. I hope I am not among their number.

and add "Neener neener neener."

#702

Ricochet wrote:4/6 = 66.66%

God damnit, Golden is the devil incarnate.

I admit that right now I have the best winning percentage on RM except for those people who have won 1/1 games.

This will never last, though, Rico. Ultimately, I think you are the more driven player

so I'll enjoy it while I can, and hand the throne over to you when it is time.

#703

Mafia -
Dragon D. Luffy
Epignosis
Golden
spacedaisy

Civilians -
Black Rock
Splints
G-Man
Hedge
MetalMarsh
Missing Person
Niju
Rico
Roxy
Llama
Timmer
Turnip Head

Day 1
Missing Votes: Hedge, Missing Person, Turnip Head

Night 1
Anonymous Votes:
Black Rock - Hedgeowl
Splints -
G-Man - Timmer
Hedge -
MetalMarsh - Roxy
Missing Person - Roxy
Niju - Spacedaisy
Rico - Timmer
Roxy - Epi
Llama - Golden
Timmer - Roxy

Question: Is a member of the Mafia was wearing a bow tie? Answer: Yes (DDL)

Night Kill: Ricochet

Day 2
Missing Votes: Black Rock, fingersplints, Hedgeowl, Metalmarsh, Missing Person, Niju, timmer

Night 2
Anonymous Votes:
Black Rock -
Splints - G-Man
G-Man - Epignosis
Hedge -
MetalMarsh - llama
Missing Person -
Niju -
Roxy - G-Man
Llama - G-Man
Timmer -

G-Man was killed. No question was asked.

Night Kill:
G-Man

Day 3
Missing Votes: Hedgeowl, Missing Person, Roxy, spacedaisy

Night 3
Anonymous Votes:
Black Rock - MetalMarsh
Splints -
Hedge -
MetalMarsh - Timmer
Missing Person -
Niju - MetalMarsh
Roxy - Epignosis
Llama - Epignosis
Timmer - MetalMarsh

Question: Is a member of the mafia wearing sunglasses? Answer: Yes. (Golden)

Night Kill:
fingersplints

Day 4
Missing Votes: Hedgeowl, Missing Person

Night 4
Anonymous Votes:
Black Rock -
Hedge -
MetalMarsh - Epi
Niju - Epi
Roxy - Epi
Llama - Roxy
Timmer -

Epi was a member of mafia. No question was asked.

Night Kill:
Roxy

Day 5
Missing Votes: Hedgeowl, timmer

Night 5
Anonymous Votes:
Black Rock -
Hedge -
MetalMarsh -
Niju - Epi
Timmer -

No question as Epi got the most votes for the second time and he is mafia.

Night Kill:
Black Rock

Day 6
Missing Votes: Hedgeowl

**Missing Votes -
- Green = 1 missed vote
- Orange = 2 missed votes
- Purple = 3 or more missed votes and participation score is affected.

#704

timmer wrote:After all that... no absentee baddie. I sniffed out Golden on my look back at the Day 1 lynch, but I never saw Epignosis at all.

Nice job, guys!! A well-deserved win!

You really did.

I wanted to NK you last night, because I sensed you would come back and be all over me, but we went with BR because you had been more absent.

And I thought TS had a little more faith in me - I never got a question

#705

K going back to "never trusting anyone again, ever" :P

Good game!

#706

I TOLD YOU GUYS. I TOLD THE GODAMN TIE WAS GONNA BE MY DOWNFALL

We shouldn't have killed Ricochet on D1.

Well, I'm not complaining, we won.

#707

Golden wrote:
Ricochet wrote:4/6 = 66.66%

God damnit, Golden is the devil incarnate.
I admit that right now I have the best winning percentage on RM except for those people who have won 1/1 games.

This will never last, though, Rico. Ultimately, I think you are the more driven player so I'll enjoy it while I can, and hand the throne over to you when it is time.

What's RM? You're still second best behind Nevinera here, if I recall correctly.

And hand me what throne? I'm at 50 now. FIF-TY. And plummeting.

linki: well, at least my one time nominee was civ. I actually trusted voting timmer back then, despite his switcheroo vote on Spacedaisy catching my eye a bit. I didn't trust almost anyone else enough to earn my vote.

linki#2: yeah, why did you kill me? :sniff: massive WIFOM aside, that is.

#708

Ahh, I missed my Blooper

#709

nijuukyugou wrote:K going back to "never trusting anyone again, ever" :P

Good game!

Hey! Tanks for dem questions.

#710

Lol DDL! That's hilarious.

Also, you guys would have been right about killing Roxy night one

We were trying to kill the people we thought most likely to get the question. Looks like we nabbed G-Man at the right time. And it's funny that MM's question basically led him straight to 'timmer or golden' at the end there.

linki Ooops, TS, not RM.

And 7/11 = 63.6%. I'm ahead of Nevinera!

#711

Night 4
Anonymous Votes:
Black Rock -
Hedge -
MetalMarsh - Epi
Niju - Epi
Roxy - Epi
Llama - Roxy
Timmer -

Epi was a member of mafia. No question was asked.

woow

Night 5
Anonymous Votes:
Black Rock -
Hedge -
MetalMarsh -
Niju - Epi
Timmer -

WOOOOW the fail is strong in here

linki: Bastardo! Well, congrats.

#712

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:I TOLD YOU GUYS. I TOLD THE GODAMN TIE WAS GONNA BE MY DOWNFALL

We shouldn't have killed Ricochet on D1.

Well, I'm not complaining, we won.

We were in a to-do over that tie.

#713

@Rico - we killed you because we thought you were probably a big long term threat, and because we thought people might vote for you to get the question on night one.

#714

I didn't catch any hints at the questioning, until Eloh said one would be allowed mention if he was chosen to question or such and MM & Epi started doing that, but I had a feeling the questioning ability didn't work too well.

linki: Well, as long as I gave you a shiver with my Spacedaisy read, I'm ok with that.

I sucked at the rest, just as usual.

#715

@Rico: you were pretty active on night 1, building big posts against llama and all, so we assumed you were a likely receiver of the question. We decided pretty much every kill in the game based on that.

#716

I told you Golden was Mafia! I'm really surprised about Epi though.

#717

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:@Rico: you were pretty active on night 1, building big posts against llama and all, so we assumed you were a likely receiver of the question. We decided pretty much every kill in the game based on that.

Correct. And it was only happenstance that all of them suspected llama right before they died. So I used that to make llama look bad.

#718

Also lol at MM having the info to take down Golden but never doing it because timmer was alive.

#719

thellama73 wrote:I told you Golden was Mafia! I'm really surprised about Epi though.

Dude, you had us feeling RUINED. We thought you had info on Golden the entire time, and we strove to lynch you anyway, knowing we would have to deal with the fallout.

Then you posted that you never got a question and we were like, "OH THANK GOD."

#720

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:@Rico: you were pretty active on night 1, building big posts against llama and all, so we assumed you were a likely receiver of the question. We decided pretty much every kill in the game based on that.

yeah, never again

well, inadvertedly, all your kills were huge WIFOMs one after the another

#721

thellama73 wrote:I told you Golden was Mafia! I'm really surprised about Epi though.

And I told you I expected you to be lynched, and you got every other vote lol!

The day one vote - I honestly didn't keep it to save DDL, and it was only after I'd cast it that I realised how bad it looked. I really thought it would come back to bite me.

#722

Epignosis wrote:
thellama73 wrote:I told you Golden was Mafia! I'm really surprised about Epi though.
Dude, you had us feeling RUINED. We thought you had info on Golden the entire time, and we strove to lynch you anyway, knowing we would have to deal with the fallout.

Then you posted that you never got a question and we were like, "OH THANK GOD."

Oh yeah, I was gearing up for showing why it was that you hadn't got a question. Thanks for making that easier.

#723

Epignosis wrote:
thellama73 wrote:I told you Golden was Mafia! I'm really surprised about Epi though.
Dude, you had us feeling RUINED. We thought you had info on Golden the entire time, and we strove to lynch you anyway, knowing we would have to deal with the fallout.

Then you posted that you never got a question and we were like, "OH THANK GOD."

I was certain that you would never have allowed such obvious NKs. I see I misunderestimated you again.

#724

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Also lol at MM having the info to take down Golden but never doing it because timmer was alive.

NKing BR was completely the right move. Good job you two!

#725

Golden played the entire game while only being able to talk to us at 2 times in the day, and not at the phase end.

We had to coordinate the d1 votes and pray for Golden to do the right thing. Thankfully he did.

#726

Hey DDL

You are now eligible for the champs game

#727

thellama73 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
thellama73 wrote:I told you Golden was Mafia! I'm really surprised about Epi though.
Dude, you had us feeling RUINED. We thought you had info on Golden the entire time, and we strove to lynch you anyway, knowing we would have to deal with the fallout.

Then you posted that you never got a question and we were like, "OH THANK GOD."
I was certain that you would never have allowed such obvious NKs. I see I misunderestimated you again.

Here's a thought: Civilians shouldn't put their cards on the table at night.

#728

thellama73 wrote:I'm going to go ahead and predict that the baddies get crushed in this game. I hope I am not among their number.

#729

You're slow.

Epignosis wrote:I want to mention this post from sign-ups

thellama73 wrote:I'm going to go ahead and predict that the baddies get crushed in this game. I hope I am not among their number.
and add "Neener neener neener."

#730

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