Golden wrote:Hey, Luke... you've played pretty well for a newbie. Especially if you are a civ with no teammates to speak to. I hope you stick around
Thanks, I guess.
I guess he felt the compliment was halfhearted.
a2thezebra wrote:Well you could lynch Luke, too. No civ-aligned player feels the need to say "I don't know who to vote for" this much.
Luke11646 wrote:
FZ. wrote:So Luke, if you're finished reading, what do you think of everything that's going on? Any thoughts? Who do you plan to vote for?
I don't really know who to vote for but I'm leaning towards voting for Mac, he hasn't done much at all recently and I don't know who else I should vote for.
Luke11646 wrote:
FZ. wrote:
Golden wrote:Marmot barely posted in this thread for days, and then suddenly appeared when people said it was suspicious. I don't think lynching him would be unfair - that's very odd behaviour for a marmot.
If I'm not going with Eloh, I could go with MM. What's your opinion of Eloh? You said that if zebra 1 comes out civ, you might change your opinion on Eloh. Did you?
What about Floyd?
Linki: Luke, if you go by who hasn't done much lately, there are plenty of people to lynch before Mac. What about Banana, Drac and some others? Does low posting equal being bad in your opinion? If that's the case, does it mean you're bad too?
I don't know who to vote for and I might just vote for someone who isn't going to get lynched, I don't want to miss two votes in a row.
Luke11646 wrote:The poll is about to end so I'm just going to vote for banana, he's only posted once and I don't know who to vote for, don't take this personally banana.
Luke11646 wrote:
sig wrote:I don't like Luke's vote at all he completely avoids both wagons and doesn't comment on either.
@Luke thoughts on MM/Floyd?
I'm new and I don't know who to vote for, I'll get back to you after I've re-read.
He definitely had the most motive to kill zebra, who was after him consistently from early on.
MacDougall wrote:The fact that you are still alive is also a little bit confounding. Just a tad.
Why? It's only been since zebra died that I've gone on the offensive. It's why I asked for protection tonight, if it exists. Before that, we had no kill on night three so do you think I was so obviously and clearly the best target on nights one or two?
The fact that you are still alive is also a little bit confounding. Just a tad.
Elo on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being low, how certain are you in your forced voters are civs theory?
10. Now that doesn't mean that there was someone who voted sig and said they were forced, but actually lied in order to jump on that train for some reason. I would never do that and I don't see a reason to do that, but it could have happened.
Question....does anyone have an idea of how many House Atriedes, how many House Freman, and how many House Emporer would have been alive on the day Sig want lynched? Does anyone have this written in their notes?
Banners are cool, but a pain to scroll through so...
I've won a lot of games. I've hosted some games. The end.
Golden wrote:Hey, Luke... you've played pretty well for a newbie. Especially if you are a civ with no teammates to speak to. I hope you stick around
Thanks, I guess.
I guess he felt the compliment was halfhearted.
a2thezebra wrote:Well you could lynch Luke, too. No civ-aligned player feels the need to say "I don't know who to vote for" this much.
Luke11646 wrote:
FZ. wrote:So Luke, if you're finished reading, what do you think of everything that's going on? Any thoughts? Who do you plan to vote for?
I don't really know who to vote for but I'm leaning towards voting for Mac, he hasn't done much at all recently and I don't know who else I should vote for.
Luke11646 wrote:
FZ. wrote:
Golden wrote:Marmot barely posted in this thread for days, and then suddenly appeared when people said it was suspicious. I don't think lynching him would be unfair - that's very odd behaviour for a marmot.
If I'm not going with Eloh, I could go with MM. What's your opinion of Eloh? You said that if zebra 1 comes out civ, you might change your opinion on Eloh. Did you?
What about Floyd?
Linki: Luke, if you go by who hasn't done much lately, there are plenty of people to lynch before Mac. What about Banana, Drac and some others? Does low posting equal being bad in your opinion? If that's the case, does it mean you're bad too?
I don't know who to vote for and I might just vote for someone who isn't going to get lynched, I don't want to miss two votes in a row.
Luke11646 wrote:The poll is about to end so I'm just going to vote for banana, he's only posted once and I don't know who to vote for, don't take this personally banana.
Luke11646 wrote:
sig wrote:I don't like Luke's vote at all he completely avoids both wagons and doesn't comment on either.
@Luke thoughts on MM/Floyd?
I'm new and I don't know who to vote for, I'll get back to you after I've re-read.
He definitely had the most motive to kill zebra, who was after him consistently from early on.
I said "thanks, I guess" because he called me a newbie, even though I am one.
At the time Mac seemed suspicious to me as well as not posting for a small while, I thought he might be busy on BTSC or something.
If you can't fix it with duct tape, your not using enough duct tape.
MacDougall wrote:The fact that you are still alive is also a little bit confounding. Just a tad.
Why? It's only been since zebra died that I've gone on the offensive. It's why I asked for protection tonight, if it exists. Before that, we had no kill on night three so do you think I was so obviously and clearly the best target on nights one or two?
That's not true. You have been a significant contributer since the start. You and Zebra interracting prior to her lynch was a lot of the volume of the thread. No you were not obviously and clearly the best target but compared to who was removed I would have picked you over them. Albeit I did say just a tad. The same argument can be made for a number of players. We shall see who survives this night then.
Golden wrote:No kill on night three is also why I believe protector DOES exist.
Or the scum targeted a recruitable that night.
Don't get me wrong. I appreciate all of your effort truly. And either way you would be playing a great game. I just feel the need to keep you under scrutiny lest you run away with all this supatowning you are doing to win the game as scum either recruited or original.
MacDougall wrote:The fact that you are still alive is also a little bit confounding. Just a tad.
Why? It's only been since zebra died that I've gone on the offensive. It's why I asked for protection tonight, if it exists. Before that, we had no kill on night three so do you think I was so obviously and clearly the best target on nights one or two?
That's not true. You have been a significant contributer since the start. You and Zebra interracting prior to her lynch was a lot of the volume of the thread. No you were not obviously and clearly the best target but compared to who was removed I would have picked you over them. Albeit I did say just a tad. The same argument can be made for a number of players. We shall see who survives this night then.
Golden wrote:No kill on night three is also why I believe protector DOES exist.
Or the scum targeted a recruitable that night.
Don't get me wrong. I appreciate all of your effort truly. And either way you would be playing a great game. I just feel the need to keep you under scrutiny lest you run away with all this supatowning you are doing to win the game as scum either recruited or original.
Well, you should have a look at how much I talked about LUKE before zebra was killed...
Since your response was about my theory as to why LUKE would kill zebra.
Because there is a difference between being a contributor, and correctly identifying baddies. If FZ is the last baddie, for example, why would she kill me right now?
“Do not seek to find the evil in your lists, for it is not the true evil.
Turn away from the water, and look into the golden light: there, you shall find what your heart seeks.”
-Princess Irulan, Sayings from the Empire
I won't be voting FZ. I will be holding on to my vote for now. I want to have a close look at bea, before I feel for certain that luke is the right answer. SVS dying despite vouching for bea only makes me more confident, though. I doubt bea would be killing SVS right now.
Golden wrote:Eloh, if you think there could be 5 Atriedes alive, then it throws everything off, so my list may as well be ignored.
You said at least 4 the day sig was lynched as four people seemed to be forced to vote sig. I say 5, yes.
Golden wrote:Mac's good, but despite his first 17 posts being on point
If we do not lynch luke tomorrow, we will not be lynching a harkonnen. Unless svs is wrong about bea. I'm going to have a second look at bea tomorrow.
House Atriedes
Mac
SVS
Matt
Golden
Draconus
Black Rock
Zebra 1.0
I believe those in green are correct plus one other.
Golden wrote:I will say, I just checked and it does say banana last visited yesterday.
It's slightly tricky if banana isn't posting or appearing to be playing in any way but is still actually present.
Could be the case. Is banana playing any other games? But....do you think Bea would kill SVS to throw us off or her? Its something I can see myself doing if I were a baddie Bea.
Banners are cool, but a pain to scroll through so...
I've won a lot of games. I've hosted some games. The end.
Golden wrote:Eloh, if you think there could be 5 Atriedes alive, then it throws everything off, so my list may as well be ignored.
You said at least 4 the day sig was lynched as four people seemed to be forced to vote sig. I say 5, yes.
Golden wrote:Mac's good, but despite his first 17 posts being on point
If we do not lynch luke tomorrow, we will not be lynching a harkonnen. Unless svs is wrong about bea. I'm going to have a second look at bea tomorrow.
House Atriedes
Mac
SVS
Matt
Golden
Draconus
Black Rock
Zebra 1.0
I believe those in green are correct plus one other.
Golden wrote:I will say, I just checked and it does say banana last visited yesterday.
It's slightly tricky if banana isn't posting or appearing to be playing in any way but is still actually present.
Could be the case. Is banana playing any other games? But....do you think Bea would kill SVS to throw us off or her? Its something I can see myself doing if I were a baddie Bea.
I did say at least 4 HAD to be alive, but I also assumed from sig lynch day that the number could be no more than 4 as well.
Unfortunately, that means one of BR and Drac is wrong. Maybe one of them is the smuggler? I'll be honset, the theory I've been working on for days is partly based on the fact that I believed I had correctly identified the house of all nightkilled people.
But here is the living list. Green I trust because I feel I have in thread evidence (beyond speculation - evidence of mechanics at work) that they are working for good. Yellow I trust based on other things, like process of elimination, good baddie hunting, and vouches. This trust has to be less firm than green. Orange I don't have any reason to trust. All of these levels of trust come down to them not being Harkonnen. The only people I definitely trust not to be recruits are Mac and Sorsha, and thats just a hunch based on their baddie hunting skills.
Eloh
Mac
Matt
Golden
FZ Sorsha
ninja
bea Luke
Banana
Having said that, my green is more like 'I have two separate reasons to trust them'. Things are never iron clad. But, if people react the way you expect them to react to something, sometimes it confirms your perspective. Does that make sense?
Like how I expected Eloh to tell me she wasn't in House Fremen
I've had one of these moments with Mac
I've had one of these moments with FZ
I haven't with Matt... but I'm trusting it because if things are right with Mac, and with me, then I trust they are right with Matt.
Eloh, I would not have killed svs. Even if I were bad and even if she suspected me, her in particular I would have trouble pulling the trigger on her. For more than one reason.
I'm not Sting, but right now I'm madder at him than I was when he had those stupid "I'm the lick and you're the key" lyrics on the brand new day album. Lame Sting is lame.
I was born to speak all mirth and no matter....
Epignosis wrote:Bitch, my identity is my identity theft protection!
Epignosis wrote:“Do not seek to find the evil in your lists, for it is not the true evil.
Turn away from the water, and look into the golden light: there, you shall find what your heart seeks.”
-Princess Irulan, Sayings from the Empire
Golden wrote:I think it means irulan trusts me, and thinks you should listen to me.
I also think a lot of you still think Irulan could be bad, but I'm one of the few people telling you all that they are not.
I'm not talking about FZ, either.
I ... don't agree.
The only one making lists is you.
You may not agree, but you are wrong. I've been a vocal supporter of Irulan for most of the game.
And I am not the only one making lists. I made one list, very late in the day, in a game where night actions are not changeable.
In the mean time, for example:
Elohcin wrote:These are the players, in alphabetical order, that I think have any chance of being the last Hark. Of course I suspect come more than others and one, I don;t even really suspect at all. I will review them as thoroughly as I can before I vote. I still have this nagging feeling that Niju is bad and seeing how quiet she can be before anyone looks at her .
I finally figured out why you keep calling that guy Sting
The first time I read the message from the Princess I thought the same thing as Mac... That she's trying to tell us Golden is bad. I have reasons to disagree with this but if there was a recruit I could see it.
You are stuck on your own paranoid theory, and you won't lose sight of it. But I've given you SO much evidence to work with that I'm telling the truth. You know, I believe, for a fact that I'm not the last Harkonnen. So you are stuck on the idea of a recruit instead.
How about this - lets get the last Harkonnen, and if the game doesn't end, then lets cut our allies to pieces with accusations of being a traitor.
linki @sorsha - exactly, 'if there was a recruit'. Only if there was a recruit.
I will be so fucked off if the civilians lose this game because of infighting. The SVS/FZ fight was bad enough. Matt, Mac, FZ, bea, eloh, sorsha, me, ninja... the eight of us are all DEFINITELY NOT FEYD-RAUTHA.
There is literally no reason we should be lynching any of us before luke or banana.
Yesterday, I narrowed the last harkonnen down to him or floyd. I admit if I'd had the chance to pick either, I probably still would have gone floyd. But I felt like it was a 50/50 shot.
Today, with floyd gone and not bad, I feel this is a 100% shot.
Luke is the last harkonnen. If I'm wrong, lynch me tomorrow.
(although technically the civilians would still have a better chance not lynching me tomorrow. But, unless banana is playing a pretty dubious tactic, it has to be luke.)
rip svs.
