Dune [ENDGAME]

#1961

No, I admire how sure he is, truly. I can't do that.

#1962

S~V~S wrote:No, I admire how sure he is, truly. I can't do that.

Lol if you say so. I think you hate it.

#1963

MacDougall wrote:
Golden wrote:Luke best flip civ? lol
Well ... you know what I mean. I got heated lol.

I'll fight you back, of course.

But you know, if luke isn't the last hark and you do lynch me, then after I'm dead don't lose sight of this post. It's the important one.

Golden wrote:It isn't FZ. It isn't ninja. It isn't bea. It isn't Mac. It isn't Eloh. It isn't you. And I know it isn't me. That leaves Sorsha (who would have to be the bussiest, most townie baddie of all time), banana (who would have to be the most lamoest lame baddie of all time, if he is literally only showing up to place kills) or luke.

#1964

MacDougall wrote:
S~V~S wrote:No, I admire how sure he is, truly. I can't do that.
Lol if you say so. I think you hate it.

Nah, i hate it when Epignosis does it; it's all about the tone.

#1965

Golden wrote:I voted Luke.

Yesterday, I narrowed the last harkonnen down to him or floyd. I admit if I'd had the chance to pick either, I probably still would have gone floyd. But I felt like it was a 50/50 shot.

Today, with floyd gone and not bad, I feel this is a 100% shot.

Luke is the last harkonnen. If I'm wrong, lynch me tomorrow.

#1966

SVS is an old friend, Mac, one I have the deepest respect for.

PS - I feel very sad for Paris right now. It's a sad day

I feel like there has been nothing this co-ordinated since 9/11.

@Mac - you don't need to quote me back to me. I'm giving you the other post for YOUR use, if you insist on lynching me tomorrow. OK? Call it a legacy post.

#1967

Maybe Epi WAS being nice and letting me win with the civs

You never know!

i will cross my fingers that that is the case.

#1968

Golden wrote:SVS is an old friend, Mac, one I have the deepest respect for.

PS - I feel very sad for Paris right now. It's a sad day I feel like there has been nothing this co-ordinated since 9/11.

@Mac - you don't need to quote me back to me. I'm giving you the other post for YOUR use, if you insist on lynching me tomorrow. OK? Call it a legacy post.

Holy shit dude I didn't know about this Paris situation at all...

#1969

MacDougall wrote:
Golden wrote:SVS is an old friend, Mac, one I have the deepest respect for.

PS - I feel very sad for Paris right now. It's a sad day I feel like there has been nothing this co-ordinated since 9/11.

@Mac - you don't need to quote me back to me. I'm giving you the other post for YOUR use, if you insist on lynching me tomorrow. OK? Call it a legacy post.
Holy shit dude I didn't know about this Paris situation at all...

Absolutely insane. I just read about it.

#1970

Voted luke.

#1971

S~V~S wrote:Maybe Epi WAS being nice and letting me win with the civs

If Lukes death does end the game that was a really awesome gesture, tbh. You deserve the win as much as any of us.

#1972

Day 6:

Looking over the dunes of Arrakis, you see a swarm of Fremen, their blue-in-blue eyes glowing the desert night like stars come to destroy the planet.

Instead, they begin their task of eliminating the Sardaukar.

A well-planed lasgun blast destroys the shield walls, and many are slain.

A diminutive S~V~S approaches Luke11646, and says, “This was meant for Lady Jessica, but you killed her, so I’ll give it to you instead.”

Luke11646’s face drains of color as S~V~S drives a hidden crysknife into the fortress around his heart.

And then into his actual heart.

Luke 11646 has been lynched and was Feyd-Rautha.

Dune has been purged of Harkonnen.

Congratulations to:

bea, Elohcin, Golden, MacDougall, MattF, a2thzebra, FZ., S~V~S, nijuukyugou, and Sorsha

#1973

Zebra won even though dead! Yay!

#1974

#1975

Thank You Epi

And

to Feyd Sting

#1976

Sting died.

#1977

Dune

House Arteides
You must defeat House Harkonnen and survive to win.

Paul Maud’Dib
As the ducal heir, Paul Arteides, you will learn your father’s ability should he perish. As Maud’Dib, you will see glimpses into the future.

Duke Leto
As the Duke of House Arteides, you can, one time only, command all of House Arteides to vote one person the next Day. Everyone must obey this order or die for treason.

Lady Jessica
As a Bene Gesserit, you have a number of one-time abilities at your disposal:
Oral Analysis: You may ask the Host to give you the recipe to whatever meal he prepared that evening.
Internal Organic-Chemical Control: You are immune to poison. This is a passive ability and a constant effect.
Prana Bindu: You can fake your own death, and anyone trying to kill you will pass you by that Night.
Weirding Way: You can train someone in the Weirding Way, increasing that person’s combat skills and making your trainee immune against one Night kill.
The Voice: You can command someone to do something, either vote the way you wish or target in the manner you demand.
Sensing the Truth: You can lie detect one statement.
Petit Perception: You can discover if someone’s vote the previous Day was for someone of his or her own faction.

Thufir Hawat
Responsible for Arteides House security, you will choose to protect one role (your target) from House Arteides from all negative actions, including death. As a Mentat, you also choose a person and attempt to learn his or her secrets, receiving one letter to the puzzle. On subsequent Nights, you will choose another person and another letter, receiving that letter also for any previous role secrets you are working on. The Host will not confirm solutions.

Gurney Halleck
On odd Nights, you will play music on your baliset and sing a song. On even Nights, you will quote from the Orange Catholic Bible. Your submission will be posted to the thread through the Host.

Duncan Idaho
As a swordmaster, pilot, and survivalist, you will survive the first attempt on your life, whether by lynch or kill. Upon your survival, you will have one kill to use the next Night only, which will fail if you attempt to take the life of someone from House Arteides.

Wellington Yueh
As a Suk doctor, you can treat illnesses and poisons. Each Night, you will search for an ill person to treat, and if successful, restore that person to health.

House Harkonnen
You must eliminate House Arteides and the Fremen. One of you may kill each Night, but the killer cannot use his regular ability.

Baron Vladimir
Deploying your military forces to execute your stratagems and will, you will prevent someone from acting each Night. You have BTSC with Piter De Vries and Feyd-Rautha.

Piter De Vries
The Baron’s mentat, you are a calculating advisor with the mental processing power of a computer. You have BTSC with the Baron and Feyd-Rautha. As a Mentat, you may choose a person and attempt to learn his or her secrets, receiving one letter to the puzzle. On subsequent Nights, you will choose another person and another letter, receiving that letter also for any previous role secrets you are working on. The Host will not confirm solutions.

Feyd-Rautha
A fearsome and tricky warrior, you seek to poison someone each Night. Your victim will accumulate one vote each Day phase until dead or the poison is neutralized.

Gloussu “Beast” Rabban
Though terrible enough to be called “Beast” on Arrakis, you do not have BTSC with the rest of House Harkonnen. You are a tool. However, you are a terrible tool, one that frightens Arrakis. Each Night, you can banish someone into the desert, and while there, that person cannot vote the next Day. There is a chance that person cannot use any action that Night. There is also a chance that person will die that Night. While you do not know your co-conspirators, the rest of House Harkonnen know you. (Host secret: Beast gains BTSC with the remaining Harkonnen if the Baron is dead)

The Fremen
You must eliminate House Harkonnen. If Maud’Dib is alive at the end, you win whether you are alive or dead; otherwise, you must survive. If someone is in the desert, the Fremen will know and vote secretly on whether that person should be spared or killed. At least two votes among you are necessary for salvation; otherwise the individual is left to perish.

Stilgar
As the Fremen leader of Sietch Tabr, you hide someone in your Sietch, taking him or her off the poll.

Chani
Each Night, you will search for Paul Maud’Dib. As his concubine, you will gain permanent BTSC with him if you find him.

Liet-Kynes
As a notable planetologist and ecologist, you can study the activity of any person and learn whom he or she targeted that Night. Due to your knowledge of local plants and herbal healing, you may cure yourself from poison once.

Shadout Mapes
You are the head housekeeper for House Arteides. You search each Night for Lady Jessica in order to give her your Crysknife. If this happens, Lady Jessica gains one kill.

The Emperor

Shaddam Corrino IV
Commander of the Sardaukar elite troops, you have been attempting to weave a delicate political scheme without tipping your hand altogether. You win if Paul, Duke Leto, Lady Jessica, and Baron Vladimir are dead. As the Emperor, you may force someone to target as you see fit. You also are the determiner of any ties (provide the host with an updated list as long as you are alive).

Princess Irulan
Historian and chronicler of great renown, you are the Princess Irulan. Each Night, you will research one person in an attempt to learn more about Paul Maud’Dib, and you will submit a commentary to the thread through the Host. You can win with any faction as long as Paul Maud’Dib is alive at the end. If he is dead, then you can win with your father, Emperor Shaddam Corrino IV.

Gaius Helen Mohiam
You live your life constantly testing things to seek the truth. You have seen a vision of four who could change the world. What four did you see? You saw the ones who have the stolen Gom Jabbar from Day 0. If any of these four survive to the end, your prophecy comes true, and you win, whether you are alive or dead. As a Bene Gesserit, you have a number of one-time abilities at your disposal:
Oral Analysis: You may ask the Host to give you the recipe to whatever meal he prepared that evening.
Internal Organic-Chemical Control: You are immune to poison. This is a passive ability and a constant effect.
Prana Bindu: You can fake your own death, and anyone trying to kill you will pass you by that Night.
Weirding Way: You can train someone in the Weirding Way, increasing that person’s combat skills and making your trainee immune against his or her first Night kill.
The Voice: You can command someone to do something, either vote the way you wish or target in the manner you demand.
Sensing the Truth: You can lie detect one statement.
Petit Perception: You can discover if someone’s vote the previous Day was for someone of his or her own faction.

The Smuggler

Esmar Tuek
You are a smuggler, and all you care about is getting the spice mélange off Arrakis. However, politics has complicated things. You must survive, and anyone who has spice mélange Day 0 must be dead for you to win.

#1978

Paul Maud’Dib- Matt F
Duke Leto- Elohcin
Lady Jessica- S~V~S
Thufir Hawat- Golden
Gurney Halleck- a2thezebra
Duncan Idaho- MacDougall
Wellington Yueh- Black Rock

Baron Vladimir- sig
Piter DeVries- MetalMarsh89
Feyd-Rautha- Luke11646
Gloussu “Beast” Rabban- Turnip Head

Stilgar- birdwithteeth11
Chani- bea
Liet-Kynes- FZ.
Shadout Mapes- NANANANANANA_BANANA

Shaddam Corrino IV- TheFloyd73
Princess Irulan- nijuukyugou
Gaius Helen Mohaim- Sorsha

Esmar Tuek- Draconus

#1979

So, Matt, were you Paul not Wellington?

I got puzzles to solve your roles. No role names, but I had to figure it out from the content. Here is what I'd figured out.

Mac was Duncan (night one)
SVS was Jessica (night two). I also guessed Sorsha was Gaius Helen Mohaim from solving some of SVS role, because it seemed consistent with Sorsha's claims (am I right, Sorsha?).
Ninja was Irulan (night three)
FZ was Lyet Kynes (night four) - but this one took me a very long time to figure out. Eventually I got the word 'planetologist'
Bea was Chani (night five)

@Eloh - who did you really want our house to vote for?

#1980

#1981

Spice Mélange - You are now being hunted by the smuggler, Esmar Tuek. Good luck surviving.
A Literjon of Water - It’s water. Save it for when you get thirsty.
Gom Jabbar - While you should be able to poison someone with this item, it has no poison on its tip. Strange. You feel a strange sensation come over you as you handle it.
Poison Snooper - If someone tries to poison you, it will fail the first time.
Windtrap - In three phases, you will have a Literjon of Water.
Lasgun - Use this weapon once to rob someone of an item taken Day 0.

#1982

Epignosis wrote:Spice Mélange - You are now being hunted by the smuggler, Esmar Tuek. Good luck surviving.
A Literjon of Water - It’s water. Save it for when you get thirsty.
Gom Jabbar - While you should be able to poison someone with this item, it has no poison on its tip. Strange. You feel a strange sensation come over you as you handle it.
Poison Snooper - If someone tries to poison you, it will fail the first time.
Windtrap - In three phases, you will have a Literjon of Water.
Lasgun - Use this weapon once to rob someone of an item taken Day 0.

See, this is why it's not always a great idea to go blabbing about your items. By saying "The Spice sucked," the lasgun takers knew not to rob you.

#1983

#1984

I don't have anything to say except this was my worst game ever.

Admitting I had BTSC almost saved me too. :P

#1985

Did I save Eloh from death on night 3?

#1986

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I don't have anything to say except this was my worst game ever.

Admitting I had BTSC almost saved me too. :P

Your team made some...questionable decisions. Luke never voted to save either of you OR bus either of you. Night 1 he poisoned someone who had a poison snooper (a cursory Google would have shown that was probably a bad idea).

One Night you guys wanted to kill and poison the same person.

#1987

Golden wrote:Did I save Eloh from death on night 3?

No. S~V~S protected Sorsha.

#1988

Matt F got to see the future. I would send him a PM a couple hours before the deadline.

Night 1, he would learn what would happen based on the first PM sent. Night 2, he would learn what would happen based on the second PM sent. And so forth. I obviously had to wait on the blocker and redirect for this to work, but it worked out fine I think.

He learned that S~V~S would not be killed Night 1 (which is why MattF asked the question he did).

He also learned the bea had failed on a Night there was no kill, which is why he went nuts over bea. Ironically, bea was his mate, and she searched him in order to hopefully get him off her back. She turned out to be successful and gained BTSC with Matt F.

Funny how that worked out.

#1989

I have long been curious why Matt asked if SVS knew something about being protected on night one...

Since I protected SVS on night one...

linki

at epi knowing what I'm about to ask at every turn.

#1990

I was hoping some more false information came into play. S~V~S lie detected bea's statement about having BTSC, but had she done so later, she would have been told that was a lie (since she gained it with Matt F). Had she lie detected a similar statement from Turnip Head early on, it would have come back true.

#1991

Golden wrote:linki at epi knowing what I'm about to ask at every turn.

I'm addicted to spice.

#1992

TH's role explains his terrible game... he even banished sig to the desert, lol!

#1993

Epignosis wrote:You are:
Gaius Helen Mohiam

You live your life constantly testing things to seek the truth. You have seen a vision of four who could change the world. What four did you see? You saw the ones who have the stolen Gom Jabbar from Day 0. If any of these four survive to the end, your prophecy comes true, and you win, whether you are alive or dead. As a Bene Gesserit, you have a number of one-time abilities at your disposal:

Oral Analysis: You may ask the Host to give you the recipe to whatever meal he prepared that evening. Used night three: Epignosis made this for his family that night:
Epignosis wrote:
Seems like it's always rained this week, so tonight was an opportunity to fire up the grill. I grill outdoors in colder weather mostly, unlike most people.

I dry rubbed a couple of chuck-eye steaks, one with McCormick's Montreal Steak seasoning, the other with simple table salt (Eloh is boring ). The beauty of chuck-eye steak is that it's marbled similarly to rib-eye steak and comes from the same part of the cow, but retails at a fraction of the cost. I would dare say that, if prepared properly, a minority of people would be able to tell the difference between the two cuts.

To go with it is a beautiful cauliflower puree. While some people argue that purees are "baby food," I disagree: They pair well with thick, meaty proteins and provide a balance.

Here's how I make mine:

1 head of cauliflower, cut into pieces
2 chicken bouillon cubes
1 teaspoon of salt
3 tablespoons of butter
Cayenne pepper (for garnish)

Boil the bouillon cubes in water, then add the cauliflower. Cook until finished. Add your cauliflower and a measure of the broth (you really have to eyeball it) to your blender. Put that butter in there and give it a minute to melt a little. Blend. Serve, garnished with cayenne pepper.

We have to use cayenne pepper as an optional garnish because everybody in my house is a weenie except me.

And to drink? Killian's Irish Red. Can never go wrong with one of those.

Internal Organic-Chemical Control: You are immune to poison. This is a passive ability and a constant effect.

Prana Bindu: You can fake your own death, and anyone trying to kill you will pass you by that Night. Use night six on myself

Weirding Way: You can train someone in the Weirding Way, increasing that person’s combat skills and making your trainee immune against his or her first Night kill. Used night four on Elohcin

The Voice: You can command someone to do something, either vote the way you wish or target in the manner you demand.Never used this power

Sensing the Truth: You can lie detect one statement. Used night one: I detected a statement of MM and found out he was bad.

Petit Perception: You can discover if someone’s vote the previous Day was for someone of his
or her own faction. Used night two: I found out that Golden didn’t vote for his own faction on day 2 (so he was not a part of House Hark)

#1994

Epignosis wrote:
Golden wrote:Did I save Eloh from death on night 3?
No. S~V~S protected Sorsha.

Thanks SVS.

#1995

Well no wonder I never solved what oral analysis was, lol.

I had your back on nights 2 and 4 sorsha, so you were as safe as houses for most of that game.

#1996

Matt F wrote:I trust bea that she believes SVS to be civvie, but I'd still like SVS to answer FZ in regards to FZ's meta. Cuz that is kinda strange.

Also, ISO'd a few players. Lots of thoughts, but won't bore thread with most of them haha because ya all know how I can be.

Mac's first post in the game

MacDougall wrote:Sig picked the gun when he had choices ergo he's a killer and easy day 1 lynch.
Okay, coincidence that Mac's very first post he identifies sig as a killer? I believe in Talking Heads, Jimmy Jay found multiple games in which Mac identified his own teammates as mafia and quite early in the game, when I had asked 3J about it. If you don't want to take my word for it, I will (dreadfully) go search 3J's ISO for those links.

But okay, let's just say Mac was being funny. Alright, let's move on.

The second time Mac susses someone in the game, his ninth post...

MacDougall wrote:I actually got pinged by turnip head's NFL post somehow. But that's probably because I am a genius level scum hunter.
The third time Mac susses someone in the game, his seventeenth post...

MacDougall wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:I do not believe policy lynches can occur after day 1 so if this fails to occur I won't push for a policy lynch on him again.

And no, not really. This discussion should get people motivated to talk. It should influence a lot of play. It will help incentivise conversation on day 1 that could lead to genuine cases. Better that than we start by just asking about the weather. Let the games begin.
Policy-lynching a player Day 1 every game is unproductive, especially if you declare such a plan.

I will no be voting for Matt F today.
So you will not be voting for Matt F even if significant evidence comes out in the thread that should encourage his lynch for not policy lynch reasons? Interesting.

And who said anything about doing it every game?

on Metalmarsh
So, the first three players he identifies as mafia or is suspicious of (whether it seems like he was joking or not), all turn out to be mafia.

Genius level scum hunter or scum himself?

My only drawback here is that Elohcin insists that those who were forced to vote sig are good.

Fyi I'm NOT trying to lynch Mac right away, but I felt it was worth sharing. What do you think?

Told you, just genius.

#1997

Congrats guys. Fun game. Never doubted you Golden.

#1998

Golden wrote:Well no wonder I never solved what oral analysis was, lol.

I had your back on nights 2 and 4 sorsha, so you were as safe as houses for most of that game.

Thanks

#1999

Golden wrote:Well no wonder I never solved what oral analysis was, lol.

#2000

Woot!

Nice job, Golden! (and rest of town)

Eloh - For awhile I thought you might be an indy or on an indy team, and were lying about all of the forced voters being good. ROCK ON though with that forced vote. Also rock on to Floyd, the only non-forced sig voter.

Mac - Fuckin' genius.

SVS - Told you I wasn't bad. I was telling bea in btsc, though, that a more experienced player probably would've used my power better. I decided just to ask straight forward questions based on my visions. Haha.

Epig - So did water actually do anything?

Baddies - Better luck next time

#2001

Epignosis wrote:I was hoping some more false information came into play. S~V~S lie detected bea's statement about having BTSC, but had she done so later, she would have been told that was a lie (since she gained it with Matt F). Had she lie detected a similar statement from Turnip Head early on, it would have come back true.

i always need to know about Bea right away. She said something that got my attention, so when she made a clear checkable statement, i went for it, and as soon as I got the PM< I went in and said I had reread her and she seemed legit to me. I totally dropped my suspicion of Eloh the same way, I checked her the TH lynch, and when i learned she had NOT voted for a member of her own faction, I just stopped discussing her, so it would not be as obvious.

Linki, yeah, sorry Matt. With MM flipping a baddie poisoner, that question made me incredibly paranoid.

#2002

MacDougall wrote:Congrats guys. Fun game. Never doubted you Golden.

No, never

#2003

Poisoned Matt F had like 4 votes today and FZ. I think had 3. I PM'd S~V~S about voting for Matt F and told her the poor guy had been poisoned from the getgo.

#2004

S~V~S wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I was hoping some more false information came into play. S~V~S lie detected bea's statement about having BTSC, but had she done so later, she would have been told that was a lie (since she gained it with Matt F). Had she lie detected a similar statement from Turnip Head early on, it would have come back true.
i always need to know about Bea right away. She said something that got my attention, so when she made a clear checkable statement, i went for it, and as soon as I got the PM< I went in and said I had reread her and she seemed legit to me. I totally dropped my suspicion of Eloh the same way, I checked her the TH lynch, and when i learned she had NOT voted for a member of her own faction, I just stopped discussing her, so it would not be as obvious.

Linki, yeah, sorry Matt. With MM flipping a baddie poisoner, that question made me incredibly paranoid.

When I solved bits of your role, I realised you had LDed bea, and I went back and saw the clear breadcrumbs.

Never noticed the eloh one, though. I begun to think you may have used petit perception on FZ, and either you or I had had our power redirected when it came to her. Thats why I got FZ to claim a house.

#2005

Even though the sig and Turnip suspicions seemed to be jokes, I'm still mind boggled that Mac's first three suspicions were all mafia.

Wow dude. Haha.

Linki - Whoa. That's a lot of poison.

#2006

Matt F wrote:Epig - So did water actually do anything?

Water kept you from being blocked or killed in the desert your first time (it was a protection against TH's power).

#2007

Epignosis wrote:
Matt F wrote:Epig - So did water actually do anything?
Water kept you from being blocked or killed in the desert your first time (it was a protection against TH's power).

Oh sweet. I was wondering to myself "Do I need to PM Epig and say 'I'd like to drink my water now' " Haha

#2008

Day 6. Shortest game I've ever hosted.

#2009

It was a lot of fun, Epi. Thank you.

#2010

Matt F wrote:Even though the sig and Turnip suspicions seemed to be jokes, I'm still mind boggled that Mac's first three suspicions were all mafia.

Wow dude. Haha.

Linki - Whoa. That's a lot of poison.

It's fair to say that my civ strength is in gut reading scum players based on slight offness about posts and behavior. I'm not great when it comes to designing huge cases etc. I genuinely did feel the way I posted, though presented in a jokey way.

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