[DAY 9] Mafia of Montreal: A Variety of Whimsical Murder

#1081

Then who would you propose are LC's teammate(s)?

#1082

Typhoony wrote:If the dead make 10 posts do they get rezzed?

I should've done something to involve dead people earlier. But no at this point let's just settle the game.

#1083

Typhoony wrote:If the dead make 10 posts do they get rezzed?

Winning. :P

#1084

I did finally figure out what ekeknat was saying, and afterwards I thought it might actually be simpler for us to just go with the flow numbers-wise. I would also really like to try to pull a win for Made and SVS. (Who I'm pretty sure was Coque as well.)

#1085

It would be easier that way yes, but it assumes they have three left. Additionally, I don't think civs win enough at TS and would like to help my other civ players get their win too.

#1086

Oh wow, lots of linki. Stop that you naughty dead people!

Spacedaisy wrote:Then who would you propose are LC's teammate(s)?

I'm not sure. I hope Dana was one, from there my next best guesses are Zebra and DF. (Shocking, right? LMAO) Battery dying, so will post this before totally dead, but I want to go back and look at a couple of things when I get back to my charger.

#1087

So you believe at least one of his teammates bussed him?

#1088

Otherwise the game would be over, so... yes.

#1089

Derp, that was a stupid question on my part. Wait, no, because Dana did not vote. What do you think specifically about Dana?

#1090

Oh never mind, God I'm slow

#1091

I think Dana most likely was one of their team, or else their third was already dead.

#1092

enrique you can resurrect me, my corpse is barely cold

#1093

Zebra you accused ekeknat of being on a team with LC, what do you make of him being killed?

#1094

Yay for chargers! And also, yes, SD it is nice to play with you again. And I don't think I congratulated you on getting married - so congrats! I think I congratulated MP but not you. It makes me really happy! And I hope you are both deliriously happy too!!

Ok, for a little on topic talk before I take off for the evening and relax with the sweets.

Dana had a super weird voting record, for one thing. She voted people she thought were good more than once. I also noticed that she did not participate much (hence the modkill, I suppose finally) and when she did it was safe stuff. Like, she had a lot to say about the weirdness in the beginning with Boulders/SkyGuy/and maybe someone else? (It was before I replaced in for skydude.) Like, she knew her sh!t on that stuff... but then really didn't have much of substance to say until ekeknat started posting a bunch of info in the thread that he had figured out through his role and the Typh lynch. At that point she was basically just agreeing with ekeknat. (Which seemed weird to me because I found it all super confusing - unless I'm either dense or rusty.

)

Is she new to mafia? Or she is a more experienced player? To me that could easily be a nub baddie. So yeah, I think there's a good chance she was a GP baddie. Looking at the death record, no GP baddies have been lynched. And Coque baddies only had 2 NKs - sig & SVS. Now I do believe SVS was civ, but sig was NKed so early I have no read on them. I don't really think he was GP baddie though, that would be some crazy luck.

So, assuming they didn't NK any of their own members (unless something weird happened with the ekeknat NK, but I'm thinking he was civ too once I figured out what he was saying - but of course I didn't want to spell it out any more clearly in the thread for obvious reasons)... I'm thinking their team was likely intact until today. When I think it is likely they lost 2 members at once.

This is when I wish I had Mata/Cyn/Dilly's mad spreadsheet skills, and not just a confused jumble of notes. I do hope this makes sense anyway. It does in my head.

DUH!

#1095

I think Ekeknat was right that Zebra is also bad. His going after both of them is probably what got him killed.

Post 1 of 10 in 24 hours (ugh)

#1096

Zebra must be a GP baddie since they haven't been eliminated. In which case, I really want Zebra gone.

#1097

At this point, I have no reason to consider whom to vote for, so I'll go ahead and vote Zebra right away.

Post 3 of 10

#1098

Non-consecutive, playerino.

#1099

DFaraday wrote:At this point, I have no reason to consider whom to vote for, so I'll go ahead and vote Zebra right away.

Post 3 of 10

That's a really fast vote. How do I know LC voting you wasn't a distancing maneuver?

#1100

Enrique wrote:Non-consecutive, playerino.

I guess I'll just have to spend my whole weekend at my laptop.

Daisy, I don't have any way to prove I'm not teamed with LC. All I can tell you is I'm civ. My sloppy, hardly-paying-attention gameplay throughout this whole game is the best evidence I have that I'm not invested in any team.

#1101

Also, why wouldn't it be a fast vote? You and Indi both all but confirmed you're not GP baddies, so I have no reason to vote for either of you. That literally only leaves Zebra.

#1102

Do dead posts break it up for the non-consecutive rule?

#1103

#1104

Long Con wrote:Do dead posts break it up for the non-consecutive rule?

But you posting helps me get posts.

Can I win if I reach the quota before the living players do? :P

#1105

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Long Con wrote:Do dead posts break it up for the non-consecutive rule?
But you posting helps me get posts.

Can I win if I reach the quota before the living players do? :P

Only one way to find out!

#1106

Long Con wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Long Con wrote:Do dead posts break it up for the non-consecutive rule?
But you posting helps me get posts.

Can I win if I reach the quota before the living players do? :P
Only one way to find out!

Ooh! Tell me what it is.

#1107

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Long Con wrote:Do dead posts break it up for the non-consecutive rule?
But you posting helps me get posts.

Can I win if I reach the quota before the living players do? :P
Only one way to find out!
Ooh! Tell me what it is.

Mega-multiquote powerrrrr!!!!!!!!!

#1108

Spacedaisy wrote:I think Dana most likely was one of their team, or else their third was already dead.

If their third wasn't already dead then Dana had to be one of their team because otherwise that would mean that at the time they had 50% of the vote and therefore no possible reason to bus LC. Because Dana didn't ping me once in the entire game I'm inclined to think that their third was already dead, and now LC is dead too. That means we just need one more GP dead and I can win this with the other two living civs. Problem is I don't trust anyone who's alive one bit, but I also don't have much reason to vote for anyone in particular either.

halp

#1109

Spacedaisy wrote:Zebra you accused ekeknat of being on a team with LC, what do you make of him being killed?

Obviously I was wrong, and he probably was in fact a GP civ. I don't know why a Coque civ would claim GP civ unless he was really confident in a Coque civ win and wanted to help the GP civs win as well, and the only other possibility is that the GP mafia nk'd one of their own teammates since the other mafia is kapoot.

#1110

DFaraday wrote:I think Ekeknat was right that Zebra is also bad. His going after both of them is probably what got him killed.

Post 1 of 10 in 24 hours (ugh)

This makes zero sense and you're full of shit. Unless I see a post that tops this in obvious bullshit before the end of the day, then you're getting my vote for this alone. I don't care if you call it an OMGUS.

#1111

DFaraday wrote:Zebra must be a GP baddie since they haven't been eliminated. In which case, I really want Zebra gone.

What about indiglo? Spacedaisy? Yourself? If you think I'm bad then okay, but why are you trying to argue that I somehow MUST be the GP baddie since they haven't been eliminated yet. If this was undeniable fact then why is this not an easy lynch? Why is there even discussion? I don't think you want discussion and that's all that your irrational quick-let's-lynch-Zebra-she-MUST-be-GP mentality is promoting. Sorry, I don't fucking buy it.

#1112

DFaraday wrote:At this point, I have no reason to consider whom to vote for, so I'll go ahead and vote Zebra right away.

Post 3 of 10

So. Full. Of shit. How could you possibly have no reason to even consider who to vote for? Why is the lynch that obvious to you? You've barely even mentioned me in the entire fucking game before today and now I'm so obviously bad to you that you're outright saying that you don't have reason to fucking CONSIDER anyone else?

#1113

DFaraday wrote:
Enrique wrote:Non-consecutive, playerino.
I guess I'll just have to spend my whole weekend at my laptop.

Daisy, I don't have any way to prove I'm not teamed with LC. All I can tell you is I'm civ. My sloppy, hardly-paying-attention gameplay throughout this whole game is the best evidence I have that I'm not invested in any team.

"I'm not playing well, therefore I must be civ"

Give me a break.

#1114

DFaraday wrote:Also, why wouldn't it be a fast vote? You and Indi both all but confirmed you're not GP baddies, so I have no reason to vote for either of you. That literally only leaves Zebra.

In what universe? Where is the evidence indicating that they are all but confirmed civilian? Why are you trying to make a difficult lynch appear a simple one?

#1115

I will be surprised if either SD or indiglo are going to post something bad enough to make me vote for them instead of DFaraday at this point but I'm still going to wait until near the deadline just in case.

#1116

I mean seriously. Why would a Coque civilian - regardless of whether or not they care about a GP civ win - vote that early and with that much confidence that they are right when there's fuck-all to warrant that confidence? Why would a GP civilian - the last GP civilian - vote that early and that recklessly when voting for the wrong person and leading to their lynch will result in them and their team losing the entire game after getting this far? Now a GP baddie - the last GP baddie - that makes sense. A desperate attempt to mislynch the actual last GP civilian by making things look bizarrely obvious and hoping enough of the few remaining fall for it to secure the win.

#1117

The reason that DFaraday used to justify his LC vote was that LC started "suspecting" DFaraday out of nowhere...and now that's exactly what DFaraday is doing to me. I mean, he didn't even say it was a gut read or anything. He just said that I, somehow, MUST be the last GP baddie. Despite having ten posts to fill up he never bothered to use one of them to elaborate on how that's even possible, or how Spacedaisy and indiglo are basically confirmed civs in his eyes. I think that he's hoping his confidence in me being bad will be enough to sway everyone to lynch me instead of him.

#1118

DFaraday wrote:Also, why wouldn't it be a fast vote? You and Indi both all but confirmed you're not GP baddies, so I have no reason to vote for either of you. That literally only leaves Zebra.

Only if what we are claiming is true. I take it you believe us. I am not even sure about indi so it would surprise me if you are.

#1119

Spacedaisy wrote:
DFaraday wrote:Also, why wouldn't it be a fast vote? You and Indi both all but confirmed you're not GP baddies, so I have no reason to vote for either of you. That literally only leaves Zebra.
Only if what we are claiming is true. I take it you believe us. I am not even sure about indi so it would surprise me if you are.

I do believe you. I think it's more likely that you're both civ than that one of you is false role hinting, and furthermore, I haven't seen anything which links either of you to LC. Indi's reaching out to Daisy as Coque civ seems like a weird strategy if she herself isn't Coque, especially since the GP baddies don't have a role checker, and hence, no way of knowing Daisy's alignment for sure.

Also, Daisy voted for LC Day 1, when he had a fair chance of being lynched, and continued to post suspicions of him. I know teammates sometimes bus each other, but that would be ridiculous. I think it's pretty much a lock that Daisy is civ.

#1120

a2thezebra wrote:
DFaraday wrote:Zebra must be a GP baddie since they haven't been eliminated. In which case, I really want Zebra gone.
What about indiglo? Spacedaisy? Yourself? If you think I'm bad then okay, but why are you trying to argue that I somehow MUST be the GP baddie since they haven't been eliminated yet. If this was undeniable fact then why is this not an easy lynch? Why is there even discussion? I don't think you want discussion and that's all that your irrational quick-let's-lynch-Zebra-she-MUST-be-GP mentality is promoting. Sorry, I don't fucking buy it.

I think it's a bit rich that you're reacting so strongly to this when you are similarly assured of yourself at least a few times in every game.

My most recent post explains my thought process, which more or less addresses everything in your last 5 posts.

#1121

How do you feel about the fact that Indi voted with Long Con for you yesterday? I personally found it a convenient excuse about the up button. It just so happened to cause her to vote for the same person as LC...

#1122

Speaking of, did we not get a screen cap of the poll?

#1123

Spacedaisy wrote:How do you feel about the fact that Indi voted with Long Con for you yesterday? I personally found it a convenient excuse about the up button. It just so happened to cause her to vote for the same person as LC...

I wasn't around to see the poll when it was up, so I didn't know she did that. I've accidentally voted for myself before, so I can't really be too harsh on anyone there. :P

I do admit that it's possible Indi is playing you, but I still think her gambit is a weird strategy if so, especially starting it yesterday in the middle of LC's lynch.

#1124

I just don't know what to make of any of you. None of your reactions are what I would expect. Dr and zebra going after each other instead of the person that came out of that lynch looking most suspicious is really really weird to me. I can't even.

#1125

Spacedaisy wrote:I just don't know what to make of any of you. None of your reactions are what I would expect. Dr and zebra going after each other instead of the person that came out of that lynch looking most suspicious is really really weird to me. I can't even.

Wait, so you really think Indi is most suspicious?

#1126

You can think that my mistake was not honest, that is your right. And there is no way I can prove it to you until I'm either lynched or the game is over and my role is revealed. (And I can't wait for that to happen to prove that I am civ.) You can think that I have a convenient excuse, but I have not used this website in probably close to 2 years, and it is formatted differently from other sites I currently use more frequently. There have been multiple aspects I have had to relearn about using this site.

By trying using the arrows to scroll up and down (which I always do because using the touch pad on my laptop is a complete PITA), my vote marker moved without me realizing it. It's not a convenient excuse, it's the truth. I was rushing because it was nearly the end of the poll, my laptop battery was about to die, and I didn't want to miss the vote and die. It's that simple. I have explained myself clearly and honestly, and that is all I can do. Well that, and try to figure out who is the best person to vote for today.

#1127

I find her vote really suspicious yes. But her actions currently are less suspicious than both you and zebra.

#1128

It's really looking like my vote is going to DFaraday today. SD, I'm curious why you find me suspicious at all. Is it for not suspecting indiglo after that vote? Because I try not to go after people for things they can't defend against. S~V~S and Scotty were different because I was able to get reactions out of both of them in response to my slip accusation. I'm a little unnerved that no one has even considered that you could be the last baddie as well, did I miss some post where you were confirmed civ or what?

#1129

indiglo wrote:Well that, and try to figure out who is the best person to vote for today.

Who are you leaning towards? DFaraday says I'm the obvious choice, I think he's the obvious choice but I haven't voted yet just in case, and Spacedaisy says your actions look the worst but your posts look the best? Or something?

#1130

Well, I'm just working on finishing up a re-read of DF. I have noticed a pattern of a subtle defense of LC by DF from the very beginning. So, to start, we have this:

Night 1

DFaraday wrote:I'm so sorry I missed the vote, Enrique! I saw the end time when I wasn't logged in and thought I had two more hours. It won't happen again!

It seemes like the most obvious solution is that Scotty is a Repudiated Immortal. And even though I have nothing to support this idea, I suspect that Nutella is the other member and Scotty kept saying he suspected her so that people wouldn't draw a connection between them.

At the moment, I'm most suspicious of the people who voted LC for no particular reason (i.e., all of them).

DFaraday wrote: Eh, I think suspecting him for not recognizing your meta (which, as he pointed out, you can deliberately change) wasn't very convincing, although you did cite more reason than the other LC voters. And Boulders straight up saying he wanted to join the LC bandwagon made it look even weirder to me.

If Nutella is the other Immortal, she would know that Scotty wouldn't die on Day 1, so it makes sense to me that she'd throw him under the bus. Distancing when your teammate secretly isn't in any real danger seems like a clever move to me.

I wasn't playing at that point, but I gather there was a vote for LC. (I is so smart.) And that DF was then suspicious of those who voted LC "for no reason"...

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