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OK, I just got back from seeing it, and yeah. You guys are all right.
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Just saw it today and you all make good points about the story, but I don't care It was awesome to finally have another Star Wars movie with intriguing characters. It was a fun movie which the prequels can't claim to be. I'm confident that future installments, specifically the Rian Johnson one will take greater care with plotting and character arcs, but this is exactly what the franchise needed to be relevant again.
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I don't disagree.Turnip Head wrote:Just saw it today and you all make good points about the story, but I don't care It was awesome to finally have another Star Wars movie with intriguing characters. It was a fun movie which the prequels can't claim to be. I'm confident that future installments, specifically the Rian Johnson one will take greater care with plotting and character arcs, but this is exactly what the franchise needed to be relevant again.
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I agree with some of the criticisms I have read (particularly in regards to underdeveloped baddies) but overall I liked it. As usual, I went in with low expectations as to not be disappointed, and I wasn't. (At the movie - Unfortunately I had other disappointments in my movie going experience. )
I think that there are also a few things that could change how I feel about this movie depending on how the next movies go. I like some of the new people and I hope they don't ruin them.
I think that there are also a few things that could change how I feel about this movie depending on how the next movies go. I like some of the new people and I hope they don't ruin them.
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Yeah, it was definitely a fun action film. I would see it again. But I gotta say...
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Stormtroopers being lame has been a thing since the original films. It's pretty much a meme at this point.
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Imma copypaste the reiew I posted on NF...
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Welcome to the internet. Population: shitty.Epignosis wrote:Spoiler: show
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Had that spoiled for me on reddit by another kind gentleman. A majority of my friends had the movie spoiled by dillweeds out for lulz :\Epignosis wrote:Spoiler: show
I've seen the new Star Wars and I have some thoughts on it but I will write about that whenever I feel like writing about it.
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True, but neither rank that high on my yearly list, tbh.Epignosis wrote:Spoiler: show
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And again...
[spoiler]I liked it. Is it kind of effed up that BB8 was my favorite new character?[/spoiler]
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I'm looking forward to it, with slight nervousness. I am not really a movie critic in any real sense, since I'll gladly watch something utterly dross provided I enjoy every minute of it (for example, the criticisms that episode VII repeated episode IV plots didn't bother me at all, because I loved the movie and that is all that matters).
I'm not really sure what I expect from Rogue One. Maybe that's a good thing - I can't be disappointed if I don't go in with high expectations - but I still want to be entertained.
I love the cast (Felicity Jones being the only one I'm unsure of). Unlike Rico, I'll probably like Whitaker and also the robot (Who is, after all, Alan Tudyk).
In the end, if I feel immersed and it feels like it lives in the Star Wars universe, I'll probably be happy.
I bet it involves a death star, though...
I'm not really sure what I expect from Rogue One. Maybe that's a good thing - I can't be disappointed if I don't go in with high expectations - but I still want to be entertained.
I love the cast (Felicity Jones being the only one I'm unsure of). Unlike Rico, I'll probably like Whitaker and also the robot (Who is, after all, Alan Tudyk).
In the end, if I feel immersed and it feels like it lives in the Star Wars universe, I'll probably be happy.
I bet it involves a death star, though...
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I'm pretty excited to see it. Probably after Christmas or sometime next week if I get my planning together.
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Ok I've seen it, when we talking about it? Is there an embargo set here for it?
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I think there is no reason to avoid discussion provided it is in spoiler tags.Ricochet wrote:Ok I've seen it, when we talking about it? Is there an embargo set here for it?
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Yeah, but it's no fun if I'm the only one who's ready (which is, like, barely, I've seen it two hours ago). How come Dharma doesn't have one full page already written here?!Golden wrote:I think there is no reason to avoid discussion provided it is in spoiler tags.Ricochet wrote:Ok I've seen it, when we talking about it? Is there an embargo set here for it?
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Well, I've seen it and I'm ready to engage. Plus we are likely to have wildly different views since I think what we are looking for in a movie seems to be something quite different.Ricochet wrote:Yeah, but it's no fun if I'm the only one who's ready (which is, like, barely, I've seen it two hours ago). How come Dharma doesn't have one full page already written here?!Golden wrote:I think there is no reason to avoid discussion provided it is in spoiler tags.Ricochet wrote:Ok I've seen it, when we talking about it? Is there an embargo set here for it?
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The Force Awakens was so bad it made me appreciate the prequels. Rogue One was so bad it made me appreciate The Force Awakens. Will the next one be so bad it will make me appreciate Rogue One? I won't know because I won't be seeing it.
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Ok, so here goes. The first quote in spoilers should be... uhm, spoilers-free, just general remaks and quite a lot of ranting, but do NOT open and read the second quote at all if you have not seen the movie and wish to remain pure at heart. Just like with TFA, I must emphasize that I am not a trekkie (oh wait, wrong Sci-FI, abort abort!) I mean SW fan(boy). I do not have a lightsaber hidden under the bed, I do not have X-, A-, P-, G-Man-Wings models on the desk, I only have a GBA cartridge of a piss-poor Episode II game, that's it. I did have my childhood moment of watching the original trilogy, which moderately worked its charm, and then I watched the prequels for cringe, when the Blu-Rays were way past their expiration date. Nowadays, I am just bound by my weakness to go see blockbuster movies from blockbuster franchises, once in a while.
Oh, and once more, I must point out the hype was so great over here, that we were barely 50 in the IMAX theatre. Four days since the movie release.
I wrote this for three hours and I am embarrassed with myself now.
Oh, and once more, I must point out the hype was so great over here, that we were barely 50 in the IMAX theatre. Four days since the movie release.
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Saw it last night-- rather enjoyed it.
HATED the subtitles of the planets. Clunky and not in the style of STar WArs. Missed the opening crawl, but understood why it was cut.
HATED the subtitles of the planets. Clunky and not in the style of STar WArs. Missed the opening crawl, but understood why it was cut.
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I didn't read Rico's review before I watched the film, but it is spooky how he mirrors my exact thoughts in his comments. I'll go into a bit more detail in the spoiler tag below.
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Rogue One was ok but I'm not going to see the Han Solo movie and I don't think they should crank these fuckers out like pez because I'm just not into watching 3 star wars films a year tbqh
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I agree that the beginning was either too short or too long.
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I finally saw Rogue One tonight. I'll put some critical thoughts together tomorrow. For now, here are my two general takeaways:
1) They should have had a character named Kyle Katarn as part of the Rebel squad. I stole the Death Star plans hundreds of times as Kyle Katarn growing up.
2) My name is Galen. It's an uncommon name, so it was very, VERY weird to hear it said so many times in a movie.
1) They should have had a character named Kyle Katarn as part of the Rebel squad. I stole the Death Star plans hundreds of times as Kyle Katarn growing up.
2) My name is Galen. It's an uncommon name, so it was very, VERY weird to hear it said so many times in a movie.
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After TLJ I have to say I dislike TFA significantly more.
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Because you liked TLJ or because you didn't?DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:50 pm After TLJ I have to say I dislike TFA significantly more.
Because I could see it either way.
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I loved The Last Jedi. TFA was "A Star Wars" movie. TLJ was a great movie that was in the Star Wars universe. I think Last Jedi will hold up more, and stands on its own more, and TFA is, as time goes on for me anyway, more of a "Hey remember how cool THIS was from the Star War"speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:52 amBecause you liked TLJ or because you didn't?DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:50 pm After TLJ I have to say I dislike TFA significantly more.
Because I could see it either way.
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Good. I respect that opinion. I even agree with it. I would have disagreed with you otherwise.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:00 pmI loved The Last Jedi. TFA was "A Star Wars" movie. TLJ was a great movie that was in the Star Wars universe. I think Last Jedi will hold up more, and stands on its own more, and TFA is, as time goes on for me anyway, more of a "Hey remember how cool THIS was from the Star War"speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:52 amBecause you liked TLJ or because you didn't?DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:50 pm After TLJ I have to say I dislike TFA significantly more.
Because I could see it either way.
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I'm going to have to watch The Last Jedi again to really make sense of my rating for it. My wife and I watched TFA again a few days before we went to see TLJ. TFA was very good until they rolled out Starkiller Base. Its tone was less serious than the original trilogy, which bugged me at times but it was probably just an updating of the wink-and-nod throwback humor in the original trilogy (which hearkened back to the serials of the 30s and 40s). The fact that they fell back on the superweapon-that-blows-up-planets plot was disappointing. The new characters were all very good. Han was too meta and Leia's presence felt unnecessary (minus the go find out son line).
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I agree to certain extent. I prefer everything Johnson attempted to everything Abrams yielded to, in the category of "what/how a new Star Wars movie should normally be". Not that it's a difficult comparison, given that even the Rebels being chased by a giant space wiener-dog would have been preferable to TFA. I think the word "subversive" got thrown in a lot, but as a Star Wars IDGAF-er, I don't mind the bits that TLJ closed the chapter on or refused to expand upon, toy further with or give into out of sheer fan service.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:00 pmI loved The Last Jedi. TFA was "A Star Wars" movie. TLJ was a great movie that was in the Star Wars universe. I think Last Jedi will hold up more, and stands on its own more, and TFA is, as time goes on for me anyway, more of a "Hey remember how cool THIS was from the Star War"speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:52 amBecause you liked TLJ or because you didn't?DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:50 pm After TLJ I have to say I dislike TFA significantly more.
Because I could see it either way.
Where I for one draw the line, though, goes two ways:
a) Johnson didn't go all the way through. About two-thirds in, past a crucial 'join me' moment, it reverts to Starwars-esque banality. Make no mistake, the marketing stitches still exist in the movie, the ESB / ROTJ nods exist, but it would have been nice for a cathartic, weird "burn it all" full gesture.
b) it's not a well balanced movie, it really isn't. Daring, sure, but messy all around in the process. One wouldn't normally praise a movie with three endings, plotholes or plot conveniances, a timeline implausibility rivaling that of GoT's season 7, so one shouldn't just because it's a SW movie.
So, you know, far from legendary status, but cred for its effort. I liked Hammill, Ridley was ok; Finn is officially wasted as a character; Kylo Ren remains the most compelling character imo, but even he was dragged through the most absurd amount of bait-of-switch tropes throughout the whole movie. There were some truly dreadful or dumb moments, as well, but I won't spoil into any of them.
I believe Johnson had to work with something that is sort of creatively stuck, on the whole, and might, if anything, have proven these very limitations. This movie also left me with no clue what Episode IX should even be about anymore, apart from a few unfinished confrontations, nor with any particular emotion of looking forward to, consider Abrams' return.
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Oh good, I'm not the only one who wished it had gone that wayDharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:41 am To be perfectly honest with you @Ricochet
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speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:29 amOh good, I'm not the only one who wished it had gone that wayDharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:41 am To be perfectly honest with you @Ricochet
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I love TLJ. It is quite possibly my favourite Star Wars movie, full stop. I'm like, waaaaaaaaay late to this discussion, but here goes.
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This is exactly what I said when describing the movie. Glad to see I'm not alone.
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