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MAFIA ON ICE: CHAMPIONS, CONTENDERS & PRETENDERS
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I found a spreadsheet containing all the games I had been working on before I disappeared from the Mafia scene. This is just one a several dozen ideas that had some level of work put into it. Since we're currently in the midst of the NHL playoffs, I thought I could get some hockey fans to give me a little input on this one. Originally, this was going to be a large, 30-player full game. Now that I look at it again, I'd almost prefer to break it down into two speed games, one for each conference. Here's how I envision it playing out:

There are three factions of teams in this game:
-Champions have won the Stanley Cup at least once in their history
-Contenders have never won the Cup but at least made it to a Cup Finals
-Pretenders have never been to the Stanley Cup Finals

Originally, the pretenders and contenders were going to be rival mafia groups while the contenders are civvies.

CHAMPIONS:
Anaheim Ducks
Boston Bruins
Calgary Flames
Carolina Hurricanes
Chicago Blackhawks
Colorado Avalanche
Dallas Stars
Detroit Red Wings
Edmonton Oilers
Los Angeles Kings
Montreal Canadiens
New Jersey Devils
New York Islanders
New York Rangers
Philadelphia Flyers
Pittsburgh Penguins
Tampa Bay Lightning
Toronto Maple Leafs


CONTENDERS:
Buffalo Sabres
Florida Panthers
Ottawa Senators

San Jose Sharks
St. Louis Blues
Vancouver Canucks
Washington Capitals

PRETENDERS:
Arizona Coyotes
Columbus Blue Jackets
Minnesota Wild
Nashville Predators
Winnipeg Jets

Teams in RED are from the Eastern Conference and teams in WHITE are from the Western Conference. These lists are subject to change every year, as teams can always claim their first Cup. I was hoping to develop powers for each team that some how relate to their success (or lack their of) as a franchise.

The main problem I see in trying to split them up by conference is that the current Western Conference is split 7-7 between teams that have won a Cup and those who haven't, creating terrible odds for a normal speed game. I have a full list of every team that has ever played for the Stanley Cup since it debuted in 1893, so I could try to even things out by adding a few defunct teams to each game.

I'm really leaning towards crafting a pair of speed games because speed games tend to be less time consuming and my wife might actually let me host speed games. I told her SM3 would be mys last full game but I'm trying to renegotiate that. ;)

Any thoughts, tips, or concerns are appreciated! I'll post a few other game ideas I've kept under lock and key every now and again. I'm not necessarily looking for power suggestions at the moment but you're more than welcome to put them out there.
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I want this right now :srsnod:
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How the hell did our dear Maple Leafs get on the champions team? I thought of them more like pretenders. :blush:

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This just means that SVS and I need to get our Baseball Mafia together.

But dammit, I barely have time for mafia as it is.
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i KNOW, me neither. I am busy getting my poll game ready. I had hoped to post it this past Monday, 4/20 ;) , but shit happens lol.

If we get working on that in about a month, then get it in the queue we will be in time for Spring Training next year. That works.
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If you're posting it on 4/20, wouldn't that make it a bowl game? ;)

Works for me. I've going to be really busy for about the next 2-3 weeks, but then I'll have a lull before finals.

And then summer!!! :omg: On ice!!! :confused:
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Yeah, it would :)

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Black Rock wrote:How the hell did our dear Maple Leafs get on the champions team? I thought of them more like pretenders. :blush:

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Well they have won 13 Cups. Too bad the last one was in 1967.

But seriously, does anyone think this can work as two speed games? I understand that 30 is the perfect number of slots for a traditional full game but I'm not sure I want to commit that kind of time to running a simpler, for-the-lulz concept kind of game.
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Could you run 2 simultaneous speed games? :ponder:
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Metalmarsh89 wrote:Could you run 2 simultaneous speed games? :ponder:
It's an intriguing idea. Is that even allowed though? Do you think that people should be able to sign up for both speed games? I have enough defunct teams to create two 19-player speed games. Or we keep it 16 and 14 and have the winning sides of the East and West game take each other on in a Stanley Cup final game?
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G-Man wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Could you run 2 simultaneous speed games? :ponder:
It's an intriguing idea. Is that even allowed though? Do you think that people should be able to sign up for both speed games? I have enough defunct teams to create two 19-player speed games. Or we keep it 16 and 14 and have the winning sides of the East and West game take each other on in a Stanley Cup final game?
Now that's a thought. That would be pretty cool actually.
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Initially, I thought that two games leading into a winners match might not work because the winners game could be totally unbalanced or only have a few players in it. A winners game is bound to be small no matter what, but it could be run in the fashion of Last Man Standing. Only one team can win the Stanley Cup, so why not have that winners match be a free for all?
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Does that mean we can "throw down our gloves"?
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Metalmarsh89 wrote:Does that mean we can "throw down our gloves"?
Why not? I could give everyone a kill power each night. That should whittle things down pretty quickly! :P
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I do not watch hockey though most hockey players are cute so I will play too. :)
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G-Man wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Could you run 2 simultaneous speed games? :ponder:
It's an intriguing idea. Is that even allowed though? Do you think that people should be able to sign up for both speed games? I have enough defunct teams to create two 19-player speed games. Or we keep it 16 and 14 and have the winning sides of the East and West game take each other on in a Stanley Cup final game?
This would be both allowed and amazing.
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Metalmarsh89 wrote:Could you run 2 simultaneous speed games? :ponder:
It's an intriguing idea. Is that even allowed though? Do you think that people should be able to sign up for both speed games? I have enough defunct teams to create two 19-player speed games. Or we keep it 16 and 14 and have the winning sides of the East and West game take each other on in a Stanley Cup final game?
This would be both allowed and amazing.
I imagine players could sign up for one, or both, depending on what they think they could handle.
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I think I'll finally work this idea up as a formal submission after the Cup Finals are over this year. I switched the Sharks from 'Pretenders' to 'Contenders.' We'll find out soon enough if they have to be moved again or not.
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Well hang on, why is it two games? It's just one game being played in two halves. The Eastern Conference has a 3 or 4 man mafia. The Western conference has a 3 or 4 man mafia. Then when you get to a certain number of players in each game, they merge and it's playoffs time.
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I've been doing a lot of re-tooling for this one recently. I don't want t run it as a full-sized games because there is a limit to how many full-sized games I can offer on the next queue as a solo host. The Western game and Eastern game have similar setups but the Finals game gets reconfigured based on which teams get through.
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In my quest to retool and make functional all of my old game ideas, I came to this one first. Here goes nothing...

I have no idea what sort of category this belongs in. For now, I'll propose this as a Job, but it may be more of a "special" game due to its nature. I'll let the admins decide that one.

MAFIA ON ICE
This NHL-themed game will feature two games being played simultaneously, and eventually merged into one.


Game A: Eastern Conference
This game will be role madness and feature all 16 teams from the NHL's Eastern Conference.

Game B: Western Conference
This game will be role madness and feature all 16 teams from the NHL's Western Conference (including to upcoming Seattle Kraken).

Both Game A and Game B will involve small mafia teams trying to take out the remaining civvie teams. Will there be 3p's? Maybe. I'm still working through all the individual powers for each NHL team role.

Each NHL team in Mafia On Ice is assigned three rival teams within their conference. As teams are eliminated from the game, those teams assigned a rival that gets eliminated will receive Slap Shots for later use. When Team X's #1 rival is eliminated (whether through the day poll or night kill), Team X earns two Slap Shots. When either of Team X's #2 or #3 rivals are eliminated, Team X gets 1 Slap Shot. So each player can earn up to four Slap Shots to use in the second stage of the game.

As with the NHL, only eight teams from each conference make the playoffs. In following this standard, both Game A and Game B will suspend play after eight players are eliminated. The remaining eight teams from each conference will then merge into...

Game C: The Stanley Cup Playoffs
Here's where it gets a little tricky. There are two separate victories in this game. There is the standard factional victory (mafia or civ), but there is also an individual victory because Game C is Last Man Standing format. Only one person will be live to claim the Stanley Cup at the end of it all. The will get a win for themselves, but also extend a win to their faction.

The mafia faction from both the Eastern and Western Conferences will continue to exist, and each mafia faction will retain a night kill. They still want to push their mafia faction on to victory. The remaining civvie teams still want to eliminate the mafia factions. The entire faction (Mafia East, Mafia West, or Civvies) will claim group victory. It won't matter if you didn't make Game C- you can still have a share of faction victory.

In Game C, all of the remaining players will be seeded using a top secret seeding matrix known only to the host. Highest seed is matched up against the lowest seed. Game C is structured in Rounds, like the Stanley Cup Playoffs. If the #16 seed is eliminated, the #1 seed advances, while the rest of the teams play on until one team from each Round 1 matchup is eliminated. Round 1 features 16 players set into 8 pairs. Round 2 features 8 players set into 4 pairs. Round 3 features 4 players set into 2 pairs. When two players remain, it's the Stanley Cup Finals. This final round of action, and the ultimate individual winner, will be determined by a number of factors.

During Game C, there will be elimination polls during the day. The team paired against a team eliminated by the day poll will advance to the next round. At night, the mafia factions have a chance to kill, but their kill will only work if they target someone paired against a member of their mafia team. If they try to kill a player not matched up against one of their ranks, the kill fails.

Also at night, players have the opportunity to use their Slap Shots. Each Slap Shot is like a 1-shot kill. Slap Shots only work when used on the player you are paired up against. If you target someone who you are not paired up against in that round, your Slap Shot fails and you lose it. Every player gets one Slap Shot for advancing to Game C, plus however many Slap Shots they earned from rivals being eliminated. Slap Shots will still be earned for rival teams eliminated during Game C. I may also consider awarding an additional Slap Shot for each round of Game C that a player advances to. If two players paired against each other each take a Slap Shot at the other on the same night, the Slap Shots collide and neither one is killed.

So, all players have to be careful of how many Slap Shots they use up. You can rely on the poll and/or mafia kills to take out your opponents, but players will need to take a chance on using their Slap Shots eventually.

Ideally, this would be a game for 32 players, but that's highly unlikely these days. As such, players can sign up to be in one or both games, so long as we reach a total of 32 roles filled when all is said and done. If one player joins both Game A and Game B, and both of their roles make it to Game C, they will appear on the poll twice- once for their Western team and once for their Eastern team. I plan to stagger the start of Game A and Game B, so that Game B ends a day phase when Game A is in its night phase. Right now, I envision this as 48/24 with closed nights.


So, it's Mafia, but then it's not Mafia, but it's also still Mafia in a way.


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I didn’t read any of the mechanic stuff, but I am so there for any NHL game
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Haha you know I just started scrolling up and realising you proposed this originally in 2015. I thought “wait I was around then. I can’t believe I wasn’t all over this!”

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