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or just make one of us die at our laptops
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I realize though that this game means I'm probably going to get policy lynched forever and never trusted again, so maybe I'll slink away from playing for long enough that people forget about it...
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Soo... should we have sent MP instead?
Interesting. I had a vibe, watching from afar, that MP busting his ISOs is disingenuous, but I didn't really spectate this very much.
Also, lol, ika literally does what he claims all the time he'd do as scum (kill Silverwolf on N1) and nobody gives a shit. And he survives the game. And wins.
Interesting. I had a vibe, watching from afar, that MP busting his ISOs is disingenuous, but I didn't really spectate this very much.
Also, lol, ika literally does what he claims all the time he'd do as scum (kill Silverwolf on N1) and nobody gives a shit. And he survives the game. And wins.
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if MP allows i can host the new setup as a special game and you cna playJaggedJimmyJay wrote:My biggest regret is that I couldn't play in the game myself. I hated watching the competitive energy and ego of this game without the ability to insert my JJJ ass right into the madness.
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and heres the pm i sent JJJ/dom when zebra asked me about my question (i was at work too)
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Hi Silverwolf,
I've spoken privately with ika a little bit, and he requested that I forward a message to you since he is still alive in the game. I've included you both as recipients. I don't object at all if you want to discuss this outside the game, it shouldn't hurt anything in there. If there is anything Dom or I can do to help you both, or anyone else on the site staff, don't hesitate to let me know. The message is attached below.
I hope all is well.
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Subject: sigh.......
Date: Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:47 pm
From: ika
To: Dom, JaggedJimmyJay
ika wrote: ok i know its been asked an i have beena voiding the answer about this for the longest tim e cus i dont knwo what to do.
what i want to say is "yes i killed silver"
and no its not for intentions of gamethroiwng (cus yes thats what i would be doing)
its much more personal, i have been feeling guilty all day phase and all night phase, i have eneded up crying seval times about it too. i have no appatie either, i have barely beena ble to eat.
i have intentionly not posted cus i just physicaly cant without doing such thing, i would explain it but i litarly alrady did it once (with vote switch)
i jsut..... i can even bear myself to read the thread out of guilt...
any adivce and if i were to do it what would MP/sig thing (not sure if you gusy know new guy)
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I was wondering how you'd be reading me if you were playing.Ricochet wrote:Soo... should we have sent MP instead?
Interesting. I had a vibe, watching from afar, that MP busting his ISOs is disingenuous, but I didn't really spectate this very much.
Also, lol, ika literally does what he claims all the time he'd do as scum (kill Silverwolf on N1) and nobody gives a shit. And he survives the game. And wins.
Yeah honestly, my initial ika play was because I thought Silverwolf was going to burn him by the end of d1, but obviously everything took a different turn. Especially due to how d1 progressed, I had to ask myself often and pretty much from the getgo if I wanted to bus any of my teammates; if so, which ones, and then how I wanted to do it.
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To add to that:
Obviously, I decided to play it three different ways -- hard bus with IAWY, hard bus then appropriate lift off of ika, and then initial confusion eventually leading to town read of sig. I tried to develop them all as organically as possible and continually update my feelings with the tide of the thread. While I obviously had to be away from the thread for extended periods due to RL reasons, it also helped me assess what the thread was saying while I was gone, which inevitably influenced how I approached all three situations. It was difficult to suppress my instinctual urge to bus sig, especially since he tends to bring suspicion upon himself (like me), but I managed it.
With that said, when Golden came to the opposite conclusion re: sig and IAWY as I did a bit over halfway through d4, I was seriously concerned. I'm glad we could still keep the lynch on zebra or Wilgy, because a sig flip might have gotten people seriously questioning me, but I had the "I was just wrong" defense all ready to go as well as my clean IAWY interactions as proof I wasn't bad.
Obviously, I decided to play it three different ways -- hard bus with IAWY, hard bus then appropriate lift off of ika, and then initial confusion eventually leading to town read of sig. I tried to develop them all as organically as possible and continually update my feelings with the tide of the thread. While I obviously had to be away from the thread for extended periods due to RL reasons, it also helped me assess what the thread was saying while I was gone, which inevitably influenced how I approached all three situations. It was difficult to suppress my instinctual urge to bus sig, especially since he tends to bring suspicion upon himself (like me), but I managed it.
With that said, when Golden came to the opposite conclusion re: sig and IAWY as I did a bit over halfway through d4, I was seriously concerned. I'm glad we could still keep the lynch on zebra or Wilgy, because a sig flip might have gotten people seriously questioning me, but I had the "I was just wrong" defense all ready to go as well as my clean IAWY interactions as proof I wasn't bad.
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Oh, and I forgot to say, although it was implied with a previous post: Thanks for the banners as well, Jay.
And thanks as well to Dom. You were an incredibly great MoD.
I admittedly can't wait to see Golden and MM's faces (wish I could IRL), but I better leave for a while to actually, you know, do things not mafia and stop spamming a bunch of thoughts that you all probably don't care about. I just can't express how much of my mind space this game took up; I almost always invest myself in games, but I was beyond extreme investment in this one, and it's so satisfying to be able to call it a win.
And thanks as well to Dom. You were an incredibly great MoD.
I admittedly can't wait to see Golden and MM's faces (wish I could IRL), but I better leave for a while to actually, you know, do things not mafia and stop spamming a bunch of thoughts that you all probably don't care about. I just can't express how much of my mind space this game took up; I almost always invest myself in games, but I was beyond extreme investment in this one, and it's so satisfying to be able to call it a win.
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For some reason I really want a cookie right now.
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Well your ISO style itself is so different than my approach or Jay's, with the impression that it's tailored according to other website's ISO styles and standards(dunno if that's true or not btw), hence making me question a bit where are you going with it.MovingPictures07 wrote:I was wondering how you'd be reading me if you were playing.Ricochet wrote:Soo... should we have sent MP instead?
Interesting. I had a vibe, watching from afar, that MP busting his ISOs is disingenuous, but I didn't really spectate this very much.
Also, lol, ika literally does what he claims all the time he'd do as scum (kill Silverwolf on N1) and nobody gives a shit. And he survives the game. And wins.
But as for it being a scumtell, I don't think it's in any way serious. You've done this in Watchmen and was civ, so...
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When you said you didn't understand how I couldn't sense your frustration, it pinged because you seem to aware of how your emotions came across. That said, you played an amazing game. I don't know if I would of stayed on you all game. Like Epi said, I thought you and Golden were both bad and sig and Wilgy were pinging me too. ika I wasn't sure of at all yet before he killed me.MovingPictures07 wrote:Silver, a lot of what you were onto with respect to my game was NAI, at least in my view (and obviously Golden's as well), but I still have to give you props for following your lead. You did genuinely get me with the "townies feel emotion, they don't talk about feeling it!" part, which threw me off a bit, but I tried to funnel frustrations that I legitimately feeling with you and ika into that conversation.
And I had no idea why Frog kept saying I was confirmed scum, that was confusing.
I will say that I usually heavily question what I find bizarre so I would of questioned you and Golden as one of you whiteknighting the other and maybe eventually would of come around to Golden being scum doing it to town you. It's hard to say what would of happened since I've been dying N1 and N2 in my games recently.
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I was as well.Epignosis wrote:Good thing you did, buddy boy, because I was going to grill you. I was of the opinion that you and Golden were both bad.MovingPictures07 wrote:Indeed, ika insisted on killing Silver N1, which I was OK with because she was onto me more than anyone else. I feared Epignosis, so I killed him too.
I was going to kill Golden or MP last night. Unfortunately, I picked the wrong one. I am a terrible vig.
I'm sorry for killing you Dizzy. I think I overanalyzed the IAWY stuff too much on Night 2.Dyslexicon wrote:That "MP has reads on all his null-ISOs" from IAWY makes so much sense now. Oh hindsight.
Haha, yeah I don't regret my kill decision last night. I do regret my Night 2 decision though. I was planning on killing DrWilgy originally that night, and consididering he ended up being an easy lynch target the next few days, it was bad to leave him alive.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:And hey, a message to the town vigilante:
Hold your head high. You're the one who had to pull the trigger, so don't mind any criticism. Shit happens, it's Mafia.
That's about the only thing I did right. Stay alive and not let anyone know it was me.MovingPictures07 wrote:Wow, so MM was the vig? Nicely done, I couldn't hunt you down, MM, because you concealed your identity through your choice of kills. Shame you had such bad hits though. I'd be interested in hearing your thought process.
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MM i think the only thing you did wrong was the fact you killed that night.
one thing i account for as scum 100% of the time is a numbers perspective. when i saw us going into the day, i said vig should not shoot if we myslynch due to it leading to scum autowin
other then that you did good
one thing i account for as scum 100% of the time is a numbers perspective. when i saw us going into the day, i said vig should not shoot if we myslynch due to it leading to scum autowin
other then that you did good
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I think you're right. I found it difficult to have an ability and not use it, especially since I was in fear of being lynched early in the game.ika wrote:MM i think the only thing you did wrong was the fact you killed that night.
one thing i account for as scum 100% of the time is a numbers perspective. when i saw us going into the day, i said vig should not shoot if we myslynch due to it leading to scum autowin
other then that you did good
I also thought a Night 2 kill was beneficial because even if I did miss, I could still give the civilians an idea of what scenarios are in play, which at least offers some more information.
Rather than being stuck with 9 possible scenarios, we were able to narrow it down to 4, and likely 3.
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This, totally. LOLRicochet wrote: Also, lol, ika literally does what he claims all the time he'd do as scum (kill Silverwolf on N1) and nobody gives a shit. And he survives the game. And wins.
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Thanks Golden for jailkeeping MP on Night 2. Had you not, I'd have likely been lynched Day 3 or killed Night 3, and you'd still be alive.
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The moment zebra flipped town, I knew it was sig and probably mp. I was buddying mp hard and as I said to ika many times 'if it looks like I'm tunnelling, I'm probably not'. My main goal was to not be dead since I was tpr.
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However... the moment when I genuinely believed MP was town was doing my iso towards the end of day 4. Before then it was mostly show. Even after that I was thinking 'this does remind me of me in Economics' - so well played MP, really well played.
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You really were. The point of vig is to take out non-contributors, not go on gut!Metalmarsh89 wrote:I was going to kill Golden or MP last night. Unfortunately, I picked the wrong one. I am a terrible vig.
Anyway, I jailkept MP. I did it because I had done it on day 2 and I knew he wasn't town vig, and that town vig was critical to us winning.
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Oh, btw, MP and sig both did genuinely slip re setup at the start of day 2.
Worked in sigs favour from my perspective though - I suspected he was town vig. That's basically what was keeping my hand from lynching him.
Worked in sigs favour from my perspective though - I suspected he was town vig. That's basically what was keeping my hand from lynching him.
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That's not what I was reading MP on at all ika. MP will have great effort and content no matter what his alignment.ika wrote:but tats the thing, how golden was reading you was bassed on your effort and contents IMO. what silver is saying here is that usign that to abirtarly read someone will lead you to misread peopleMovingPictures07 wrote:I don't agree with this; it can be. Mafia have to fabricate literally all of their content. It was difficult for me to do that, some of you didn't make it easy.Silverwolf wrote:Effort is never indicative of alignment. If Ika is tunneling he either is a PR w results or its his scum team mate. He will also do it to me if I'm scum in a game and he catches me. Just an FYI no matter hi well you know someone, you should never rely solely on meta alone to read them. Good job scum team and congratulations on the win. Whoever the vig is, should hide their head in shame.
But it never is indicative with some players, including me.
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I needed you around at the end there, soneji!Soneji wrote:I passed out last night for 13 hours, that is why I never showed up again. Congrats to the winners. MP cared way too much about winning a simple practice game
At least I got sig right.
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I disagree.Golden wrote:You really were. The point of vig is to take out non-contributors, not go on gut!Metalmarsh89 wrote:I was going to kill Golden or MP last night. Unfortunately, I picked the wrong one. I am a terrible vig.
Anyway, I jailkept MP. I did it because I had done it on day 2 and I knew he wasn't town vig, and that town vig was critical to us winning.
Regardless, my Night 2 kill was anything but gut. My gut said DrWilgy, but I looked over the EOD1 events, and Dyslexicon looked bad coming out of it. Same with his EOD2 actions, so that is why I opted to kill him.
If you're unhappy with my decision to kill you, I understand. In my defense, my point in lynching zebra over DrWilgy was that if she did come back civ, I thought it would look better for the doctor, hence why I didn't want to kill him. But after zebra flipped, I went into Night 4 with the most likely of scum teams being you, MP, and sig. We were in pretty dire situation as it was, so I opted to kill the one I felt would be hardest to lynch. I felt good enough about Soneji not to kill him. I didn't feel confident either way on ika. Considering the situation last night, I thought it was best to kill someone who is likely scum, not someone who is a non-participant. I don't think that is the wrong way to approach it.
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Exactly - but I'll still give you shit for it MMJaggedJimmyJay wrote:And hey, a message to the town vigilante:
Hold your head high. You're the one who had to pull the trigger, so don't mind any criticism. Shit happens, it's Mafia.
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I agree. I did real difficulty finding my town block this game. I'm most gutted that I didn't jailkeep you on day one and also Marco on day 3 (who I thought I'd sent in a PM to jailkeep).Silverwolf wrote:One other thing I wanted to mention is that town needs town blocs to beat out scum. This means I always town hunt. If I can find them and PoE out the scum, then town has a chance. The hard part is when town doesn't post much because I will try to lynch low content posters starting D2 usually.
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I agreed with this, so I'm glad to hear there are tweaks.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I'll also say that I don't think this original Matrix12 is balanced very well (at least not setup F as we played in). A 13 vs. 4 ratio is already difficult to work with, and giving the mafia team an extra kill on top of that is too much. Town had a decent arsenal of powers to combat that, but not enough. Thankfully they've tweaked the matrix at MU and it ought to be a bit better now that the tournament games have started.
That's not to take anything away from this mafia team, who clearly deserved to win.
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That's what I thought about eco, and then I won another 6 or something games for the year.MovingPictures07 wrote:I realize though that this game means I'm probably going to get policy lynched forever and never trusted again, so maybe I'll slink away from playing for long enough that people forget about it...
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Now we're even since you almost botched "Gentleman's Guide" for us. :PGolden wrote:Exactly - but I'll still give you shit for it MMJaggedJimmyJay wrote:And hey, a message to the town vigilante:
Hold your head high. You're the one who had to pull the trigger, so don't mind any criticism. Shit happens, it's Mafia.
Well I don't know if this would be considered being even since we won in spite of that, but I can always give you shit for that.
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Soneji wasn't there. Zebra was upset with me and not willing to engage with me. I really wanted to have discussion around sig but with only you willing to talk to me...MovingPictures07 wrote:With that said, when Golden came to the opposite conclusion re: sig and IAWY as I did a bit over halfway through d4, I was seriously concerned.
That's why it worked, ultimately.
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Nah, I'm not unhappy. I was pretty sure we'd lost at that point anyway. If it had been me, I would have used it on sig, BUT, I knew I was good and you didn't.Metalmarsh89 wrote:If you're unhappy with my decision to kill you, I understand. In my defense, my point in lynching zebra over DrWilgy was that if she did come back civ, I thought it would look better for the doctor, hence why I didn't want to kill him. But after zebra flipped, I went into Night 4 with the most likely of scum teams being you, MP, and sig. We were in pretty dire situation as it was, so I opted to kill the one I felt would be hardest to lynch. I felt good enough about Soneji not to kill him. I didn't feel confident either way on ika. Considering the situation last night, I thought it was best to kill someone who is likely scum, not someone who is a non-participant. I don't think that is the wrong way to approach it.
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@Golden we protected me last night so it wouldn't have mattered much. :P
Also why did you think I was mafia?
I disagree with vig taking out only lurkers. While it might work I think in the end it damages town more espacilly if your mafia members are high posters.
Also why did you think I was mafia?
I disagree with vig taking out only lurkers. While it might work I think in the end it damages town more espacilly if your mafia members are high posters.
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Your protection was a fail, sig... I jailkept MP!sig wrote:@Golden we protected me last night so it wouldn't have mattered much. :P
Also why did you think I was mafia?
I disagree with vig taking out only lurkers. While it might work I think in the end it damages town more espacilly if your mafia members are high posters.
I thought you were mafia because of your links to IAWY, and your closed-mindedness on setup options in early day 2, but that's also why I thought you could be vig.
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Okay yeah it was a risk defending IAWY, but I figured it was worth it.
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The main reason I thought you were scummy in the end there was the fact that you were lining up lynches. But you were not the only one.sig wrote:I disagree with vig taking out only lurkers. While it might work I think in the end it damages town more espacilly if your mafia members are high posters.
The scum team all did well.
I would shoot lurkers as vig if I didn't have good scum prospects to target. Because there is no way to read people who won't post. They could be scum or unhelpful town. But again, this is just me. I have a prejudice against lurkers?
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If I'm MM in the end there, I use my vig shot. I'd also target a clear scum read (regardless of post count). I think dire scenarios like that call for gambles, and that's what he did.
He wasn't far off either. He decided to shoot one of the two biggest controlling influences over the thread; he just picked the wrong one. The game could have turned completely had he shot MP.
He wasn't far off either. He decided to shoot one of the two biggest controlling influences over the thread; he just picked the wrong one. The game could have turned completely had he shot MP.
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Yes! I know you didn't have a "theme", but I loved the cookie flips.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:For some reason I really want a cookie right now.
Also, oatmeal raisin is awesome.
What was my cookie?
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How is it different? Just curious on your take there.Ricochet wrote:Well your ISO style itself is so different than my approach or Jay's, with the impression that it's tailored according to other website's ISO styles and standards(dunno if that's true or not btw), hence making me question a bit where are you going with it.MovingPictures07 wrote:I was wondering how you'd be reading me if you were playing.Ricochet wrote:Soo... should we have sent MP instead?
Interesting. I had a vibe, watching from afar, that MP busting his ISOs is disingenuous, but I didn't really spectate this very much.
Also, lol, ika literally does what he claims all the time he'd do as scum (kill Silverwolf on N1) and nobody gives a shit. And he survives the game. And wins.
But as for it being a scumtell, I don't think it's in any way serious. You've done this in Watchmen and was civ, so...
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You sneak! I did wonder why you were buddying me so much, but I figured you were being honest.Golden wrote:However... the moment when I genuinely believed MP was town was doing my iso towards the end of day 4. Before then it was mostly show. Even after that I was thinking 'this does remind me of me in Economics' - so well played MP, really well played.
The moment I was JKed n2 though, my instinct was that you were the JK. I tried to role check MM that night and it failed.
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The only bad cookie is oatmeal raisin.MovingPictures07 wrote:Yes! I know you didn't have a "theme", but I loved the cookie flips.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:For some reason I really want a cookie right now.
Also, oatmeal raisin is awesome.
What was my cookie?
I was considering flipping the other mafia as other random food I hate, like "pasta salad with f***ing bacon in it". I was just making up all the flips as I went.
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Oh yeah, I was going to lynch you hard on d3 if you came back power role. ika, sig, and I even came up with a word/smiley code... but we hadn't considered that it would fail.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Thanks Golden for jailkeeping MP on Night 2. Had you not, I'd have likely been lynched Day 3 or killed Night 3, and you'd still be alive.
So I put "fail" in OT regarding my exam and underlined it to hopefully get their attention.
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Thanks, Golden, and thanks to everyone else who said kind words as well. I really worked hard on that IAWY bus; I tried to nail him with criticisms of specific content, and I'm not sure how much he purposefully laid out there for me but I kept taking it.Golden wrote:However... the moment when I genuinely believed MP was town was doing my iso towards the end of day 4. Before then it was mostly show. Even after that I was thinking 'this does remind me of me in Economics' - so well played MP, really well played.
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I was searching for a "town" block myself; I was hoping it could be me, you, MM, Marco, and/or Dizzy, but it didn't quite work out.Golden wrote:I agree. I did real difficulty finding my town block this game. I'm most gutted that I didn't jailkeep you on day one and also Marco on day 3 (who I thought I'd sent in a PM to jailkeep).Silverwolf wrote:One other thing I wanted to mention is that town needs town blocs to beat out scum. This means I always town hunt. If I can find them and PoE out the scum, then town has a chance. The hard part is when town doesn't post much because I will try to lynch low content posters starting D2 usually.
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Yeah, I don't know though. :PGolden wrote:That's what I thought about eco, and then I won another 6 or something games for the year.MovingPictures07 wrote:I realize though that this game means I'm probably going to get policy lynched forever and never trusted again, so maybe I'll slink away from playing for long enough that people forget about it...
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Very true. I was still scared shitless though. :PGolden wrote:Soneji wasn't there. Zebra was upset with me and not willing to engage with me. I really wanted to have discussion around sig but with only you willing to talk to me...MovingPictures07 wrote:With that said, when Golden came to the opposite conclusion re: sig and IAWY as I did a bit over halfway through d4, I was seriously concerned.
That's why it worked, ultimately.
And when I was saying I wanted Scotty and Soneji to show up, I was hoping they wouldn't. I was yelling at the screen, DON'T COME BACK!
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote:MP would have clearly been bean dip though.
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I take offense to oatmeal raisin cookie being the only bad one.
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I take offense to oatmeal raisin cookies in general.Metalmarsh89 wrote:I take offense to oatmeal raisin cookie being the only bad one.
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