See folks, that's why I never had a girlfriend. Always interfering with my game time and junk.
......kidding. glad you guys had some time. Glad alex is getting some rest. Take all the time you need sockface. We're fine not knowing if we asplodeied or not.
I was born to speak all mirth and no matter....
Epignosis wrote:Bitch, my identity is my identity theft protection!
So I didn't get off work until after 10:00PM last night. I am so exhausted. My life has never been near this insane.
I'm so sorry life has gotten in the way of wrapping this game up. My troubles with actually getting to Tallahassee on top of so many other things certainly didn't help. I am going to be frank with you guys. It's just about March. Things will get even way more busy from here. I am in PA on an audit starting Sunday and I have to work all day and night tomorrow.
So here's the deal: The games are connected. It basically boils down to whichever game had "winners" first that those winners would be the real winners overall, and the other game would end. So if civvies won in the Red Room before anyone could win here, then those civvies would win the entire Champions game. Conversely, if a baddie team won here, the Red Room would end, and they would win the Champions game.
The Red Room is not even close to completion.
However, this game is, somehow. You have 24 hours to decide who deserves to win with the rest of the civvies: bea or Boomslang. Even though Boomslang is Cohen and would technically survive another lynch, I just don't have the time to draw it out, and figured that you bunch would make a decision and go for it anyway. bea is King of Town and she cannot win with Boomslang because she made the mistake of voting for him. So now you get to decide who wins and who doesn't. Even the deadies can vote in this!! Everyone from The Red Room and Champions game, you have 24 hours.
Apologies for the unconventional closing to this game, but it's the only thing I can really do at this point.
I love bea dearly and she has played great game, but I am leaning towards giving the win to boom because he is a newer player than her, and I think the win would mean more for him than for her. And I'm a little biased toward Cohen since I was a Houdini Spliced in that game.
I am voting for Boom to win. But I still love me some Bea.
Bea was under the gun in I don't know how many different lynches, always being constantly scrutinized over whether she was a baddie or not...even escaping a lynch or two if I recall...not to mention numerous NKs and such. Call it biased it y'all want, but becuase of all the above reason I feel she deserves the win.
bea wrote:I was taught it was bad manners to tit your own horn. Boom played a great game.
*votes boom*
lol at my phone typo.
Can't believe none of you heathens had any smarty comment for it.
Also, now that I have a bit of time. It should also be mentioned that boom had a heck of a role to play. Pretty much an indi w/o a kill - stay alive - don't collect votes. Had I not flaked and fell for elo's "oh! Not me!!!" cries the first time around, we'd have had this game over by now and goosey would have been alive. He played a tough roll well.
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Epignosis wrote:Bitch, my identity is my identity theft protection!
Hey alex - I know you are super busy and all - but when this is all voted and over, I'd love to see all the actions and all the stuff you had planned for the red room and all that. I love that sort of post game wrap up.
You did an amazing job with this game and I can't thank you enough for all you put into it. I had a blast playing it!!
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Epignosis wrote:Bitch, my identity is my identity theft protection!
Also, I feel like the way I played my role kind of broke the game, and I didn't intend that to happen. I apologize for that.
When moriarty mentioned me early, I hinted a little because I thought I was going to get creamed in the lynch vote, but them MP gave us a code to break that clarified my win condition to such a degree that I was left in an unpleasantly safe and powerful position :-(
So I pivoted into coalition-building, since I did still want to win in the safest way possible - when god gives you pie, you eat pie.
Nevinera wrote:Also, I feel like the way I played my role kind of broke the game, and I didn't intend that to happen. I apologize for that.
When moriarty mentioned me early, I hinted a little because I thought I was going to get creamed in the lynch vote, but them MP gave us a code to break that clarified my win condition to such a degree that I was left in an unpleasantly safe and powerful position :-(
So I pivoted into coalition-building, since I did still want to win in the safest way possible - when god gives you pie, you eat pie.
i thought when I got the role hint - you were henderson.
I thought it was when you were worried my death was you related. my powers were sooo insanely crazy to try to predict then apparently everyone who could manip a power maniped mine. I got to the point where I literally asked alex - here's my notes on my menu. I know you know things outside of the game - can you help me fill in the blanks as best you can.
fwiw - my role hints - were the youtube videos initally - the "it must have been those pills I took" the "you did it to yourself" (because somehow my eating something made *me* insanifed) but the *big* hint - the one BDH referenced was the most daring - it was my off topic diatribe about how I had to eat the LAST 3 THINGS IN MY PANTRY. It came *after* lizzy had said that she was King of Town in the original game. I was hoping that if she and SD were civ - they would pick up on the fact that I was talking about eating the last three things in the pantry. Obviously - bdh knew we weren't in that dire of economic states and picked up on it right away.
After the bit about the last three things in the pantry though, I never hinted. And goosey nailed my role. I avoided responding to it because I thought that doing so would be confirming or denying.
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Epignosis wrote:Bitch, my identity is my identity theft protection!
Nevinera wrote:I voted bea to win, because I'm pretty sure that was the plan we all would have followed.
I am impressed by how close boom got though! Not at all an easy role to manage.
also - thanks for that - but we can't predict what would have happened one way or the other. svs trusted/suspected me like every 42 seconds (see what I did there wif da numbers svs? )
I still think boom deserves the win just as much as I do.
I really REALLY REALLY wish Elo hadn't conned me right now.
Well played elo - really - you were the slippery and trickstery baddies of all.
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Epignosis wrote:Bitch, my identity is my identity theft protection!
alex - I really wish you would consider the idea of boom and I both winning. I know it goes against his win conditions, but since we are stopping the game w/o playing it all out....he played hard and he played well. I played hard and I played kinda ok. I think we both deserve it. I dislike that my win comes at the expense of his. You are the host - you can create or dis-create at your pleasure. I'm only in this game in the first place because daisy decided that everyone on team Blue Lazor won - live or dead, playing or not. As far as I'm concerned, boom would have been a townie had I not been conned.
I was born to speak all mirth and no matter....
Epignosis wrote:Bitch, my identity is my identity theft protection!
bea wrote: alex - I really wish you would consider the idea of boom and I both winning. I know it goes against his win conditions, but since we are stopping the game w/o playing it all out....he played hard and he played well. I played hard and I played kinda ok. I think we both deserve it. I dislike that my win comes at the expense of his. You are the host - you can create or dis-create at your pleasure. I'm only in this game in the first place because daisy decided that everyone on team Blue Lazor won - live or dead, playing or not. As far as I'm concerned, boom would have been a townie had I not been conned.
Alex - I totally agree with this.
In case you don't though here's how I see it. Cohen's win conditions say this: "Wins by surviving, but only if everyone else alive has never doubted him." Since bea is the only one left alive and she has doubted Cohen I think that makes bea the clear winner. Bea congrats, regardless of how the poll comes out. Maybe my logic is screwed up but I have no time to think through it anymore - I am voting for bea. Boomslang, you played a marvelous game and congrats whether you win or lose.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:24 pmAlways good to remember that there is no such thing as a Mafia circumstance that is worth real human emotion. Sometimes it will naturally come out, but it can be contained if we just remember that this is a game on a message board forum that 99.99% of the population of the Earth has never heard of before. No matter how successful anyone is, it means just about nothing.
Nevinera wrote:I voted bea to win, because I'm pretty sure that was the plan we all would have followed.
I am impressed by how close boom got though! Not at all an easy role to manage.
also - thanks for that - but we can't predict what would have happened one way or the other. svs trusted/suspected me like every 42 seconds (see what I did there wif da numbers svs? )
I still think boom deserves the win just as much as I do.
I really REALLY REALLY wish Elo hadn't conned me right now.
Well played elo - really - you were the slippery and trickstery baddies of all.
Elo is quite the heart tugger, isn't she? She has a career as a baddie in the cards.
And i always trust/susp you ever 42 seconds. I buy whatever you're selling SO HARD that it makes me tense, and i doubt my gut, and another 42 second cycle begins.
Skip softly, my moonbeams, for I have heard tell
That the stairs up to heaven lead straight down to hell
Wow. That's fairly impressive then. I guess that confirms the idea that Fetus is dead then. Yay civvies!
This is a tough decision, but I'm going to be in the minority it looks, and go with boom. Mostly because I think his win condition was much harder to fulfill, and with him being a newer player. I think both bea and boom played like Champions in this game for sure though.
Alex, if this is the easiest way for you to end it, then I'm fine with that. And I'm sure all of us are. It was a very exciting, unique game!
birdwithteeth11 wrote:Wow. That's fairly impressive then. I guess that confirms the idea that Fetus is dead then. Yay civvies!
This is a tough decision, but I'm going to be in the minority it looks, and go with boom. Mostly because I think his win condition was much harder to fulfill, and with him being a newer player. I think both bea and boom played like Champions in this game for sure though.
Alex, if this is the easiest way for you to end it, then I'm fine with that. And I'm sure all of us are. It was a very exciting, unique game!
I agree with you teefies. Prolly for the first time since the wraslin' game.
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Epignosis wrote:Bitch, my identity is my identity theft protection!
Man, when I first saw the poll, my heart almost stopped a bit and thought: holy shite! I've blown everyone up!
But I don't want to have to choose. :\ Two completely different play styles, two awesome players: bea really did justice to a role I could not handle in the original game and went through a lot and still managed to survive; and boom was managed to carry the burden of such a complex indie role without drawing too much attention on himself.
Imma gonna randomise k. You both deserve to win. [/cheese fest - butt it's ture]
I will consider letting both of them win, but have not yet decided.
Additionally, even though Boomslang cannot win with bea alive, that is precisely the point of the poll; if Boomslang were picked, bea would thus not be picked, and he could win with everyone else alive because no one else doubted him.
Apologies again for the unconventional ending, but I suppose it is somehow fitting.
I don't understand what happened to all the other people who were alive. I thought maybe they blew up but I don't see any post saying that. Someone, what happened?
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:24 pmAlways good to remember that there is no such thing as a Mafia circumstance that is worth real human emotion. Sometimes it will naturally come out, but it can be contained if we just remember that this is a game on a message board forum that 99.99% of the population of the Earth has never heard of before. No matter how successful anyone is, it means just about nothing.
juliets wrote:I don't understand what happened to all the other people who were alive. I thought maybe they blew up but I don't see any post saying that. Someone, what happened?
They all won - the endgame is down to boomslang (who is Cohen) and bea (who is a civ that voted for Cohen). Since nobody else remaining voted for Cohen, it's really a choice between the two of them, and MP just distilled that choice down a bit.
Fortunately not randomly blowing any of us up just beforehand :-)
Thanks to all of you for playing!!! I really hope this lived up to everyone's expectations. The timing didn't work out nearly as well for me as I had hoped, and I knew it would be somewhat problematic, but it became even more so. Thus, I apologize for this fact.
This was certainly an absolute behemoth to plan for and undertake. Probably the hardest game I have ever hosted in that regard. I don't feel I necessarily nailed all the dynamics I could, but I knew the balance was incredibly unpredictable, and it was part of the reasoning behind the Red Room/Champions game dichotomy (as well as the fact that I wanted to use both ideas for the roles so badly, but couldn't pick, so Twin Peaks ended up being a fantastic vehicle for that).
I am going to go to bed now after I type up the role assignment lists for you guys, and then I (presumably, since the weather sucks tomorrow) fly out tomorrow for my audit, so I will be very busy. That said, I will be back to answer questions and reveal more as soon as I can.
Also, here are these two roles:
• Damo Suzuki - [Avant-Garde 2] – This crazed singer has a personal bag of mushrooms he can tap into every night. Others might consider him an expert on the matter of such substances, but he is really too inarticulate most of the time to even consider the thought himself. He can grab one mushroom at random out of his bag every night to use on himself or on another player of his choice. Unbeknownst to Damo, there may be a few other random non-mushroom items in that bag as well. o Contents of Damo’s Mushroom Bag:
o d1 – White Mushroom – Blinds any player who uses it, forcing their vote the subsequent two days for a random player, and randomizing their night target the following two nights.
o d2-d4 – Yellow Mushroom – The player who eats this feels a dislike towards players of another origin. If the player votes for another player whose role is from a similar game as theirs, he protects himself and that person from night kills the subsequent night. If he fails, nothing happens.
o d5-d7 – Pink Mushroom – The player who eats this feels a like towards players of an another origin. If the player votes for another player whose role is from a different game than theirs, he protects himself and that person from night kills the subsequent night. If he fails, nothing happens.
o d8 – Grey Mushroom – The player who eats this mushroom cannot post or vote the following day.
o d9 – Polka Dot Mushroom – The player who eats this feels overwhelmed. If the player posts at least 20 posts the following day period, their vote for that day is worth 4x. If they fail to do so, it is worth nothing.
o d10-d11 – Ege Bamyasi – A player can throw this can of… something at another player, attempting to role block them (50% chance). The player who was hit with it then can throw it at another player the following night, etc.
o d12 – Smelly Socks – They smell terrible! Causes a player to commit suicide (50% chance) due to the smell.
• King of Town - [Homestar Runner] - Has a smorgasbord buffet in his castle. He will choose one item to eat each night, giving him a one time use ability the following night, but he won't know what the item does before he eats it. o Smorgasboard Buffet:
o Animal Phat – Gives the KOT one night kill.
o Biscuit Dough – Gives the KOT one role check.
o Butter-da – Insanifies the KOT.
o Cardboard Boxes Covered in Syrup – KOT may choose to eat any number of boxes. If odd number, his vote the following day is worth however many he eats; if even, it is worth negative the number he eats.
o Chocolate Dipped Tapeworm – Role blocks the KOT.
o Denture Tablets – KOT can stick two players together; whatever happens to one, happens to the other as well.
o Deodorant – Gives the KOT one role block.
o Hello Kitty Erasers – Resets the night cycle.
o Last Three Items in the Pantry Special – Allows KOT to eat three items.
o Motherboard Covered in 70% Cocoa – Randomized everyone's night targets.
o Prescription Ice Cream – Protects KOT from all night actions.
o Regurgitated Food – Lets the KOT choose one food he has already eaten.
o Schenectady Crispies - Steals a player's vote from them the subsequent day.
o The KoT's Good Gravy - Nullifies the vote of a player the subsequent day.
o TV Remote – Lets the KOT redirect one other player's night action to a player of his choice.
o Whatsit – Kills the KOT.
Will type up the role/character assignments thereafter.
Well done, everyone! And great job, MP! This game looked utterly insane to try to run.
I'm also wondering if I ever got targeted for kills. I spent the later half of the game just trying to use powers that would make me unkillable for that night.
I will reveal now at least that the players who were in first overall for the year in terms of wins (thus, Nevinera, Mongoose, and thellama73) were able to send me three roles they wanted to be right before the game started. I then let them be assigned to their number one choice (or randomized among the three or less if they didn't rank) before I randomized the remaining players.
I will answer all other questions as soon as I can!!! But I need to get to bed and then get up early to prepare for my flight.
The amount of detail that went into this game is absolutely insane. MP, bravo! I'm sad Zodac killed me so early because I was just getting into my role of Bob. Congrats to the winners! You deserved it! And here's to another year of Mafia!
I avoided responding to it because I thought that doing so would be confirming or denying.
Congrats to the winners! You deserved it! And here's to another year of Mafia!
