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This really was an epic game, Epi, thank you very much
I'm actually shocked I didn't get killed earlier. Guess it all makes more sense now!
No "ni" in LC's role description + no hat = not mafia. That's why I trusted you, not Boom's vouch!
linki - oh you You were brilliant in how you saw the game! I'm just sorry I flinched from Mongoose and voted Boom. Hope I didn't disappoint you too much with that. Sorry I wasn't around much, I couldn't have asked for a better partner
I'm actually shocked I didn't get killed earlier. Guess it all makes more sense now!
No "ni" in LC's role description + no hat = not mafia. That's why I trusted you, not Boom's vouch!
linki - oh you You were brilliant in how you saw the game! I'm just sorry I flinched from Mongoose and voted Boom. Hope I didn't disappoint you too much with that. Sorry I wasn't around much, I couldn't have asked for a better partner
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Oh yeah! Y'all should have answereded the knights who say NI's questions! You got to ask them if a certain player of your choice had "ni", and since most roles had the word universe or night in them, most were a yes, but if you hit a NO like we did with Long Con, you could learn a lot about him!
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Yeah, I thought that was a fun, quirky mechanic, but nobody else sent the PM.timmer wrote:Oh yeah! Y'all should have answereded the knights who say NI's questions! You got to ask them if a certain player of your choice had "ni", and since most roles had the word universe or night in them, most were a yes, but if you hit a NO like we did with Long Con, you could learn a lot about him!
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I didn't realize we had to PM anythingEpignosis wrote:Yeah, I thought that was a fun, quirky mechanic, but nobody else sent the PM.timmer wrote:Oh yeah! Y'all should have answereded the knights who say NI's questions! You got to ask them if a certain player of your choice had "ni", and since most roles had the word universe or night in them, most were a yes, but if you hit a NO like we did with Long Con, you could learn a lot about him!
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Also, the order of the themes was decided by Day 0, of course, but dead people's votes no longer counted. So the order could change.
The Hobbit was obviously a pro-Sorcerer place, but we never got to Film Noir, which was a pro-Suit place:
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The Hobbit was obviously a pro-Sorcerer place, but we never got to Film Noir, which was a pro-Suit place:
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The Hays Code is in Effect.- Any profanity of any kind will result in Preacher Harry Powell’s vote the next Day becoming +1 for each instance.
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Nobody did. Only Col. Mustard and his BTSC guy zeek did.DharmaHelper wrote:I didn't realize we had to PM anythingEpignosis wrote:Yeah, I thought that was a fun, quirky mechanic, but nobody else sent the PM.timmer wrote:Oh yeah! Y'all should have answereded the knights who say NI's questions! You got to ask them if a certain player of your choice had "ni", and since most roles had the word universe or night in them, most were a yes, but if you hit a NO like we did with Long Con, you could learn a lot about him!
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Motherfucker.Epignosis wrote:Also, the order of the themes was decided by Day 0, of course, but dead people's votes no longer counted. So the order could change.
The Hobbit was obviously a pro-Sorcerer place, but we never got to Film Noir, which was a pro-Suit place:
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Yeah, I didn't PM the Questions Three, I just said them in the thread.
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Dh--- you played our team amazingly well. I wish it would have turned out better.
TBH-- Epi you are a great host. I love your games a lot.
TBH-- Epi you are a great host. I love your games a lot.
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Everyone on the team played amazingly. I was just the last one to get shot in the face.Dom wrote:Dh--- you played our team amazingly well. I wish it would have turned out better.
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our BTSC chat was awesome too. I'll miss it.DharmaHelper wrote:Everyone on the team played amazingly. I was just the last one to get shot in the face.Dom wrote:Dh--- you played our team amazingly well. I wish it would have turned out better.
TBH-- Epi you are a great host. I love your games a lot.
TBH, DH, you have more patience than I do-- I would have, and did, have an in-thread fit. You played it better than I ever could.
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Hot damn civvies. SVS and I decided on Day 2 that DH was bad and needed to go and he STILL made it to Day 12??????
Nice job DH.
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I was almost gonna lose it when the Ghost that got rezzed due to clever role claiming/outing also infodumped the Gandalf thing.Dom wrote:our BTSC chat was awesome too. I'll miss it.DharmaHelper wrote:Everyone on the team played amazingly. I was just the last one to get shot in the face.Dom wrote:Dh--- you played our team amazingly well. I wish it would have turned out better.
TBH-- Epi you are a great host. I love your games a lot.
TBH, DH, you have more patience than I do-- I would have, and did, have an in-thread fit. You played it better than I ever could.
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SVS, I'm blaming you for not listening. :P
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Lol, this game was ridic. I still cannot believe that the entire thread literally caught Made in an outright lie, yet explained it all away and didn't lynch him until many days later. I would say how proud I am about being right about him, if it were not for the fact that it was the most freaking obvious thing I've ever seen.
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I don't want to live in that universe.
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Oh also, DH? You had me completely fooled, even following the thread right up to the end. Awesome game, man.
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Hey, I caught Made out D2 and defended you!thellama73 wrote:Lol, this game was ridic. I still cannot believe that the entire thread literally caught Made in an outright lie, yet explained it all away and didn't lynch him until many days later. I would say how proud I am about being right about him, if it were not for the fact that it was the most freaking obvious thing I've ever seen.
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epi - who would have come back if the other poll options for the dead players had won?
I'm dying to know who put Abed is Batman.
Marshy - for what it's worth - I did actually want to die so we could bring someone back. I was going to try to bring you back if it happened. Sadly no one tried to NK me.
I'm dying to know who put Abed is Batman.
Marshy - for what it's worth - I did actually want to die so we could bring someone back. I was going to try to bring you back if it happened. Sadly no one tried to NK me.
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My fault reallybea wrote:epi - who would have come back if the other poll options for the dead players had won?
I'm dying to know who put Abed is Batman.
Marshy - for what it's worth - I did actually want to die so we could bring someone back. I was going to try to bring you back if it happened. Sadly no one tried to NK me.
1) I semi-intentionally took the Day 1 lynch with the hopes that a rezz would arise in the future, in which case I would not have to worry about being lynched, and could survive to endgame.
2) When Epi PM'd all the dead players with that opportunity, I completely forgot to respond and take advantage of it. I was literally almost throwing things.
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For the record, I said "There's a seemer"
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Well, I lost it when MP outed me-- you are a better man than I.DharmaHelper wrote:I was almost gonna lose it when the Ghost that got rezzed due to clever role claiming/outing also infodumped the Gandalf thing.Dom wrote:our BTSC chat was awesome too. I'll miss it.DharmaHelper wrote:Everyone on the team played amazingly. I was just the last one to get shot in the face.Dom wrote:Dh--- you played our team amazingly well. I wish it would have turned out better.
TBH-- Epi you are a great host. I love your games a lot.
TBH, DH, you have more patience than I do-- I would have, and did, have an in-thread fit. You played it better than I ever could.
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You guys decided?Metalmarsh89 wrote:Hot damn civvies. SVS and I decided on Day 2 that DH was bad and needed to go and he STILL made it to Day 12??????
I not only decided he was bad, I made it my lifestyle for the whole game!
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Sorry for your luck Dom. I think people should start getting modkilled again.Dom wrote:Well, I lost it when MP outed me-- you are a better man than I.DharmaHelper wrote:I was almost gonna lose it when the Ghost that got rezzed due to clever role claiming/outing also infodumped the Gandalf thing.Dom wrote:our BTSC chat was awesome too. I'll miss it.DharmaHelper wrote:Everyone on the team played amazingly. I was just the last one to get shot in the face.Dom wrote:Dh--- you played our team amazingly well. I wish it would have turned out better.
TBH-- Epi you are a great host. I love your games a lot.
TBH, DH, you have more patience than I do-- I would have, and did, have an in-thread fit. You played it better than I ever could.
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I was "Abed is Batman"
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I'm going to modkill everyone the next time I host.Metalmarsh89 wrote: Sorry for your luck Dom. I think people should start getting modkilled again.
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I don't want to live in that universe.
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SVS got temp BTSC with me Day 2 after I died, and DH was our number 1 dicussion point (a couple others as well). Anyway, we both agreed he was absolutely bad and needed to be lynched.Long Con wrote:You guys decided?Metalmarsh89 wrote:Hot damn civvies. SVS and I decided on Day 2 that DH was bad and needed to go and he STILL made it to Day 12??????
I not only decided he was bad, I made it my lifestyle for the whole game!
There wasn't anything I could do. I could only vote for AP every day.
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Don't be sorry-- that doesn't change anything.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Sorry for your luck Dom. I think people should start getting modkilled again.Dom wrote:Well, I lost it when MP outed me-- you are a better man than I.DharmaHelper wrote:I was almost gonna lose it when the Ghost that got rezzed due to clever role claiming/outing also infodumped the Gandalf thing.Dom wrote:our BTSC chat was awesome too. I'll miss it.DharmaHelper wrote:Everyone on the team played amazingly. I was just the last one to get shot in the face.Dom wrote:Dh--- you played our team amazingly well. I wish it would have turned out better.
TBH-- Epi you are a great host. I love your games a lot.
TBH, DH, you have more patience than I do-- I would have, and did, have an in-thread fit. You played it better than I ever could.
Lynch and kill outers. Ruin their games. Make their lives miserable. Ruin everything for them. Make them feel how I have felt when I have played flawless games (see Doctor Who Mafia) and still get lynched simply because all the civvies out themselves.
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Is it any comfort at all that you probably got me killed Dom?
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It's a comfort that MP lost tbhTurnip Head wrote:Is it any comfort at all that you probably got me killed Dom?
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Modkills would certainly do it imo. At least have it as a warning against info-dropping/outing. Players wouldn't out themselves if they're going to lose as a result of it.Dom wrote:Don't be sorry-- that doesn't change anything.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Sorry for your luck Dom. I think people should start getting modkilled again.Dom wrote:Well, I lost it when MP outed me-- you are a better man than I.DharmaHelper wrote:I was almost gonna lose it when the Ghost that got rezzed due to clever role claiming/outing also infodumped the Gandalf thing.Dom wrote:our BTSC chat was awesome too. I'll miss it.DharmaHelper wrote:Everyone on the team played amazingly. I was just the last one to get shot in the face.Dom wrote:Dh--- you played our team amazingly well. I wish it would have turned out better.
TBH-- Epi you are a great host. I love your games a lot.
TBH, DH, you have more patience than I do-- I would have, and did, have an in-thread fit. You played it better than I ever could.
Lynch and kill outers. Ruin their games. Make their lives miserable. Ruin everything for them. Make them feel how I have felt when I have played flawless games (see Doctor Who Mafia) and still get lynched simply because all the civvies out themselves.
I think it was X-Men where players were info-dropping, and so Rob kept giving us baddies extra little bonuses to compensate for it. Either it didn't matter, or we just didn't play well enough.
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TBH, Info dumping CAN improve a game.
Role outing does not.
I'm so sick of this. I'm so sick of having that discussion-- it's not the first time.
Role outing does not.
I'm so sick of this. I'm so sick of having that discussion-- it's not the first time.
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I feel very torn and upset by this whole thing. Because I guess I keep thinking I know where the line is and then I over step it. I honestly don't think I did anything wrong this game. If anyone wants to search my posts and PLEASE tell me where I did anything wrong. Do it and PM it to me because I want to be a better player and I *though* was was becoming one.
I literally feel sick to my stomach that I helped make this game so unenjoyable for so many people. I want to get better but if I'm not shown better ways of playing things, I can't learn. Show me how civ bts was played better. Then I can learn.
I literally feel sick to my stomach that I helped make this game so unenjoyable for so many people. I want to get better but if I'm not shown better ways of playing things, I can't learn. Show me how civ bts was played better. Then I can learn.
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I still like you, bea. I think you're cool.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
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Thanks llama - I am pretty cool in lots of things -but I'm not great at mafia - and I never claimed to be. I do however, love to learn and welcome instruction.
you're cool too sir!
TH - you would have been fun to have back too! I voted where I wanted to there. I couldn't believe anyone who picked Abed is Batman was bad.
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I agree, I think "info dumping", or at least info-hinting, should be a vibrant part of Mafia. It's the reason why giving the baddies a dead-role-checker (or even a regular role-checker) is so good. What an opportunity!
Perhaps the better way to combat the perceived info-dumping problem is for hosts to introduce things into the game to specifically neutralize the possibility. More baddie roles that can cause wrong information to seem right, variants on the Seemer role, roles that are listed as Civvie but are actually bad...
Also, it's worthwhile to point out that the baddies have a WAY better record on this site than the Civvies. The baddies win disproportionately more. So an infodumping problem isn't hurting the overall baddie win chances.
Perhaps the better way to combat the perceived info-dumping problem is for hosts to introduce things into the game to specifically neutralize the possibility. More baddie roles that can cause wrong information to seem right, variants on the Seemer role, roles that are listed as Civvie but are actually bad...
Also, it's worthwhile to point out that the baddies have a WAY better record on this site than the Civvies. The baddies win disproportionately more. So an infodumping problem isn't hurting the overall baddie win chances.
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Baddies win more than civvies here because the civvies do not play. Nonparticipation significantly drops the difficulty for mafiaLong Con wrote:I agree, I think "info dumping", or at least info-hinting, should be a vibrant part of Mafia. It's the reason why giving the baddies a dead-role-checker (or even a regular role-checker) is so good. What an opportunity!
Perhaps the better way to combat the perceived info-dumping problem is for hosts to introduce things into the game to specifically neutralize the possibility. More baddie roles that can cause wrong information to seem right, variants on the Seemer role, roles that are listed as Civvie but are actually bad...
Also, it's worthwhile to point out that the baddies have a WAY better record on this site than the Civvies. The baddies win disproportionately more. So an infodumping problem isn't hurting the overall baddie win chances.
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Stay tuned for what we hope will be a pleasant surprise on that front.DharmaHelper wrote:Baddies win more than civvies here because the civvies do not play. Nonparticipation significantly drops the difficulty for mafiaLong Con wrote:I agree, I think "info dumping", or at least info-hinting, should be a vibrant part of Mafia. It's the reason why giving the baddies a dead-role-checker (or even a regular role-checker) is so good. What an opportunity!
Perhaps the better way to combat the perceived info-dumping problem is for hosts to introduce things into the game to specifically neutralize the possibility. More baddie roles that can cause wrong information to seem right, variants on the Seemer role, roles that are listed as Civvie but are actually bad...
Also, it's worthwhile to point out that the baddies have a WAY better record on this site than the Civvies. The baddies win disproportionately more. So an infodumping problem isn't hurting the overall baddie win chances.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
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Well now I feel like the kid who opened his gifts the night before Christmasthellama73 wrote:Stay tuned for what we hope will be a pleasant surprise on that front.DharmaHelper wrote:Baddies win more than civvies here because the civvies do not play. Nonparticipation significantly drops the difficulty for mafiaLong Con wrote:I agree, I think "info dumping", or at least info-hinting, should be a vibrant part of Mafia. It's the reason why giving the baddies a dead-role-checker (or even a regular role-checker) is so good. What an opportunity!
Perhaps the better way to combat the perceived info-dumping problem is for hosts to introduce things into the game to specifically neutralize the possibility. More baddie roles that can cause wrong information to seem right, variants on the Seemer role, roles that are listed as Civvie but are actually bad...
Also, it's worthwhile to point out that the baddies have a WAY better record on this site than the Civvies. The baddies win disproportionately more. So an infodumping problem isn't hurting the overall baddie win chances.
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It ruins the game for the player, eh?Long Con wrote:I agree, I think "info dumping", or at least info-hinting, should be a vibrant part of Mafia. It's the reason why giving the baddies a dead-role-checker (or even a regular role-checker) is so good. What an opportunity!
Perhaps the better way to combat the perceived info-dumping problem is for hosts to introduce things into the game to specifically neutralize the possibility. More baddie roles that can cause wrong information to seem right, variants on the Seemer role, roles that are listed as Civvie but are actually bad...
Also, it's worthwhile to point out that the baddies have a WAY better record on this site than the Civvies. The baddies win disproportionately more. So an infodumping problem isn't hurting the overall baddie win chances.
The game, in general, has a huge problem with info-dumping lately. You know that.
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It's not my place nor fair of me to say you played poorly or to "teach" you how to play. You *could* have been more subtle, and I think that was the thing for me is how obvious both you and Eloh were about it. Save the cheeky obvious stuff for BTSC chat.bea wrote:Thanks llama - I am pretty cool in lots of things -but I'm not great at mafia - and I never claimed to be. I do however, love to learn and welcome instruction.
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TH - you would have been fun to have back too! I voted where I wanted to there. I couldn't believe anyone who picked Abed is Batman was bad.
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Speaking of cheeky obvious stuff, What was it in the sign ups thread you guys were talking about? Completely missed it.
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Of the people in the end game, the only person who was not outed/didn't out themselves was DH-- when excluding inactives because they don't matter at that point.
That's a problem.
Honestly, this is the second game on this site that has been absolutely DESTROYED because of info dumping and role outing. There's good in info dumping, but there's also, "hey i'm not bad and it rhymes with "prom".
That's a problem.
Honestly, this is the second game on this site that has been absolutely DESTROYED because of info dumping and role outing. There's good in info dumping, but there's also, "hey i'm not bad and it rhymes with "prom".
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It is when infodumping is against the rules, which is generally the case.Long Con wrote:I agree, I think "info dumping", or at least info-hinting, should be a vibrant part of Mafia. It's the reason why giving the baddies a dead-role-checker (or even a regular role-checker) is so good. What an opportunity!
Perhaps the better way to combat the perceived info-dumping problem is for hosts to introduce things into the game to specifically neutralize the possibility. More baddie roles that can cause wrong information to seem right, variants on the Seemer role, roles that are listed as Civvie but are actually bad...
Also, it's worthwhile to point out that the baddies have a WAY better record on this site than the Civvies. The baddies win disproportionately more. So an infodumping problem isn't hurting the overall baddie win chances.
Perhaps that should/could be changed for future games?
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SVS is gonna be so mad at me when she wakes up tomorrow.
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Just to circle the wagon back to the inactive thing:
Lizzy, Lorab, Sabie, and Reywas were ALL civvies. When that big a chunk of civvies are inactive, its not surprising to me that the mafia win more often than not.
Lizzy, Lorab, Sabie, and Reywas were ALL civvies. When that big a chunk of civvies are inactive, its not surprising to me that the mafia win more often than not.
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tbh she will never trust you againDharmaHelper wrote:SVS is gonna be so mad at me when she wakes up tomorrow.
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Hey hey hey!Dom wrote:Of the people in the end game, the only person who was not outed/didn't out themselves was DH-- when excluding inactives because they don't matter at that point.