[END] The Syndicate's 2013 Game of Champions

#1281

Hedgeowl wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:Epi has a history of know civ Elo and its annoying when you are a baddie with her, but yeah it makes me trust his judgement on her. I will be burned by this when they are baddies and cant guarantee that they are not, but I feel better about this choice for now.
So basically you're voting her because Epi did? I guess I just don't agree with the reasoning. Maybe it is a civ Epi noticing a civ Elo but that's just one of maEpiny factors. She could've gotten better at fooling him, they could be bad together, he could be a baddie trying to set her up, or a baddie trying to make her think he's civ by supporting her. There's no way to know and I wouldn't want to base my vote on his or anyone else's in that way.

I'm gonna vote for myself actually, there's nobody I majorly trust at this point.
I can see that from your perspective, but I played a lot of games in a row with both of them where this came up recently, so I have thought about it quite a bit as I am sure several other players in those games have as well. Also, I think a baddie Elo would be posting more. She tried really hard when she replced in as a baddie in Agods with DF and I, but Epi saw through her sock very quickly and then quickly pursued her as bad. If he were bad and thought she was on another baddie team, he would totally go for her I think.

This is all my personal impressions and Epi could totally say I am completely wrong, but thats how I making my decision. Which frankly had a lot more thought behind it then many of the votes, so I dont see a problem with it. I have to vote for someone and no one wins if we all vote ourselves.

Hedge, I've been in those same games where Eloh has turned out to be good when Epig stood up for her and then when Eloh was bad in the game i co-hosted with SVS, Epig was all over it. So I am considering that as I make a decision on who to vote. I also think bea is on her civvie game, but when it gets down to it with either one of them I don't absolutely trust anyone. Voting for myself though, as the only one i trust, would just result in spreading the vote more.

So, maybe I will flip a coin but I'm going to take just a little bit longer to consider what to do.

#1282

I don't get the logic for Lizzy, especially given she supported the wacky software idea. And the people voting for Elo because Epig sees her civ game doesn't fly with me. Although I hardly ever buy the "Because I know the person better IRL, I'm better at reading them" argument. I think all the times MP and I have been wrong about each other is enough evidence of that lol.

I am however willing to throw a vote toward bea. She seems fairly involved and is asking lots of questions and examining multiple aspects, which I generally like to see from her.

#1283

birdwithteeth11 wrote:I don't get the logic for Lizzy, especially given she supported the wacky software idea. And the people voting for Elo because Epig sees her civ game doesn't fly with me. Although I hardly ever buy the "Because I know the person better IRL, I'm better at reading them" argument. I think all the times MP and I have been wrong about each other is enough evidence of that lol.

I am however willing to throw a vote toward bea. She seems fairly involved and is asking lots of questions and examining multiple aspects, which I generally like to see from her.

Are you and MP intimate?

#1284

hahahahahaha!

Ok, I'm tired of pondering on this and going to throw my vote to bea.

#1285

Why should you vote for me?

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Here's 17 gifs of cute animals hugging things!

#1286

Bullzeye wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:Epi has a history of know civ Elo and its annoying when you are a baddie with her, but yeah it makes me trust his judgement on her. I will be burned by this when they are baddies and cant guarantee that they are not, but I feel better about this choice for now.
So basically you're voting her because Epi did? I guess I just don't agree with the reasoning. Maybe it is a civ Epi noticing a civ Elo but that's just one of many factors. She could've gotten better at fooling him, they could be bad together, he could be a baddie trying to set her up, or a baddie trying to make her think he's civ by supporting her. There's no way to know and I wouldn't want to base my vote on his or anyone else's in that way.

I'm gonna vote for myself actually, there's nobody I majorly trust at this point.

I see two scenarios in which we should be concerned:
1) Elo is bad and Epig is bad
2) Elo is bad and Epig is good.

Epig's alignment really has nothing to do with whether Elo is good or not.

Interesting that people called four people voting Elo a bandwagon and then Bea got six votes.

#1287

wow guys! I'm touched. Truely.

Of the people with votes, I know I'm 100% civ and trustworthy and cute. (if not rather awkward and clumsy, that just adds to my cute though really.)

Not really sure of anyone else, but of the people getting votes, Kate hasn't really sparked any "wait wot?" from me yet, so my vote is going there.

I'm in general unsure of the whole Epi/Elo thing. I couldn't read my hubby for crap when we played together, but then again, I can't really read my very good friends for crap either. IDK - I know they were baddies together in Grimm though so that whole scenario where they are both bad has happened before. I can't really say he did any vouching there. IDK.

I also have to admit, the cute kittens did alllllllmost make me think about taking the bribe for like .000000001 second. (wot? I like kittens.

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vote Kate

@ dom - I just skimmed the thread pretty quickly as I'm running hecka behind today - but were any of the people that voted for me also the ones calling the bandwagon?

#1288

Bea, how could you turn your back on the kittens, you monster...

#1289

Dom wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:Epi has a history of know civ Elo and its annoying when you are a baddie with her, but yeah it makes me trust his judgement on her. I will be burned by this when they are baddies and cant guarantee that they are not, but I feel better about this choice for now.
So basically you're voting her because Epi did? I guess I just don't agree with the reasoning. Maybe it is a civ Epi noticing a civ Elo but that's just one of many factors. She could've gotten better at fooling him, they could be bad together, he could be a baddie trying to set her up, or a baddie trying to make her think he's civ by supporting her. There's no way to know and I wouldn't want to base my vote on his or anyone else's in that way.

I'm gonna vote for myself actually, there's nobody I majorly trust at this point.
I see two scenarios in which we should be concerned:
1) Elo is bad and Epig is bad
2) Elo is bad and Epig is good.

Epig's alignment really has nothing to do with whether Elo is good or not.

Interesting that people called four people voting Elo a bandwagon and then Bea got six votes.

I never used the term bandwagon. I just think it's odd how willing people are to trust Epi's instincts when we have no idea if he's trustworthy. He could be lying or wrong.

#1290

Bullz, I'm sorry I wasn't clear that I didn't mean YOU called it a bandwagon. I was speaking generally using your post as jumping point.

Boomslang voted for Bea. He called the Elo votes a bandwagon. Four elo voters. One is herself. The other is her husband. The other is me. The other is hedge. I have similar as hedge for voting Elo.

However, Boomslang votes on a person who got the 21st, 22nd, 23rd, 24th, and 25th votes (His being he 25th).

#1291

Hmmm...that's an interesting point Dom.

#1292

bea wrote:Hmmm...that's an interesting point Dom.

I do want to make this clear though, I do not think that voting for you is a bad idea, I just think that Boomslang is being a hypocrite.

#1293

NIGHT 2

Who should have the honor of being nominated the first shieldbearer of the Shield of Grayskull???!

Poll ended at Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:42:05 pm

AceofSpaces
0
No votes

agleaminranks
0
No votes

bea
7
thellama73 (6), blindfaeth (10), Mongoose (21), Flyin' High (22), birdwithteeth11 (23), juliets (24), Boomslang (25) 26%

BigDamnHero
0
No votes

birdwithteeth11
0
No votes

blindfaeth
0
No votes

Boomslang
0
No votes

Bullzeye
1
Bullzeye (20) 4%

Devin the Omniscient
1
Devin the Omniscient (14) 4%

DFaraday
0
No votes

DharmaHelper
2
DharmaHelper (13), AceofSpaces (15) 7%

DisgruntledPorcupine
0
No votes

Dom
0
No votes

Elohcin
5
Epignosis (3), Hedgeowl (9), Elohcin (17), Dom (19), BigDamnHero (27) 19%

Epignosis
0
No votes

Flyin' High
0
No votes

Hedgeowl
0
No votes

insertnamehere
2
insertnamehere (5), Lizzy (18) 7%

juliets
0
No votes

Kate
3
reywaS (11), Kate (16), bea (26) 11%

Lizzy
2
Russtifinko (7), Vompatti (12) 7%

Mongoose
0
No votes

Nevinera
0
No votes

reywaS
0
No votes

Russtifinko
1
Nevinera (8) 4%

Spacedaisy
0
No votes

thellama73
0
No votes

Vompatti
0
No votes

The host, of course! (host, deadies, non-players)
3
MovingPictures07 (1), S~V~S (2), kneel4justice (4) 11%
Total votes : 27

Missing votes: agleaminranks, DFaraday, DisgruntledPorcupine, Spacedaisy

#1294

Dom wrote:
bea wrote:Hmmm...that's an interesting point Dom.
I do want to make this clear though, I do not think that voting for you is a bad idea, I just think that Boomslang is being a hypocrite.

It's true, I voted for bea after many others had done so. However, I feel that the bea voters (including myself) all independently considered the evidence for her civness. You and Hedge, on the other hand, seemed to follow a train of thought that went "I think Elo is civ because Epig said so." And that's what felt like a bandwagon: jumping on the conclusion made by another charismatic player without further consideration.

#1295

DharmaHelper wrote:
birdwithteeth11 wrote:I don't get the logic for Lizzy, especially given she supported the wacky software idea. And the people voting for Elo because Epig sees her civ game doesn't fly with me. Although I hardly ever buy the "Because I know the person better IRL, I'm better at reading them" argument. I think all the times MP and I have been wrong about each other is enough evidence of that lol.

I am however willing to throw a vote toward bea. She seems fairly involved and is asking lots of questions and examining multiple aspects, which I generally like to see from her.

Are you and MP intimate?

We're best friends IRL. So I think it's safe to say we are.

And Dom, I personally didn't think of it much as a bandwagon. I can see where Boomslang is coming from though, inasmuch as it feels like you and Hedge are simply voting Elo because you're trusting Epig to be reading his wife accurately. And to me, that's a bit of a stretch.

#1296

birdwithteeth11 wrote:because you're trusting Epig to be reading his wife accurately. And to me, that's a bit of a stretch.

SHOTS FIRED

#1297

Dom wrote:
bea wrote:Hmmm...that's an interesting point Dom.
I do want to make this clear though, I do not think that voting for you is a bad idea, I just think that Boomslang is being a hypocrite.

lol I didn't think you thought I was bad just because a lot of people seem to be good at reading my civness for once. (TBH, I know you well enough to know you would just come out and tell me you thought I was bad.

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I was more curious because I get paranoid when lots of people start agreeing with me, I think some of them might be baddies trying to kiss up to me. Not really feeling it atm from this particular group so I was wondering if you saw something I didn't.

Also - I see both sides to this thing with boomslang. I can see why he found those votes followy alongy and why you could see his vote being a little pot kettley. Don't you two do this a lot or am I remembering incorrectly?

#1298

Boomslang wrote:
Dom wrote:
bea wrote:Hmmm...that's an interesting point Dom.
I do want to make this clear though, I do not think that voting for you is a bad idea, I just think that Boomslang is being a hypocrite.
It's true, I voted for bea after many others had done so. However, I feel that the bea voters (including myself) all independently considered the evidence for her civness. You and Hedge, on the other hand, seemed to follow a train of thought that went "I think Elo is civ because Epig said so." And that's what felt like a bandwagon: jumping on the conclusion made by another charismatic player without further consideration.

agreed here completely. Trusting Epig's read of Elo when Epig's alliance is very much in question doesn't make sense to me.

#1299

WhAT DO WE WANT?

A NIGHT POST!

WHEN DO WE WANT IT?

Whenever is most convenient for you, our most glorious and socktacular host.

#1300

bea wrote:
Dom wrote:
bea wrote:Hmmm...that's an interesting point Dom.
I do want to make this clear though, I do not think that voting for you is a bad idea, I just think that Boomslang is being a hypocrite.
lol I didn't think you thought I was bad just because a lot of people seem to be good at reading my civness for once. (TBH, I know you well enough to know you would just come out and tell me you thought I was bad. )

I was more curious because I get paranoid when lots of people start agreeing with me, I think some of them might be baddies trying to kiss up to me. Not really feeling it atm from this particular group so I was wondering if you saw something I didn't.

Also - I see both sides to this thing with boomslang. I can see why he found those votes followy alongy and why you could see his vote being a little pot kettley. Don't you two do this a lot or am I remembering incorrectly?

I think we've played one game together, and I believe we were teammates. I might be wrong though.

reywaS wrote:
Boomslang wrote:
Dom wrote:
bea wrote:Hmmm...that's an interesting point Dom.
I do want to make this clear though, I do not think that voting for you is a bad idea, I just think that Boomslang is being a hypocrite.
It's true, I voted for bea after many others had done so. However, I feel that the bea voters (including myself) all independently considered the evidence for her civness. You and Hedge, on the other hand, seemed to follow a train of thought that went "I think Elo is civ because Epig said so." And that's what felt like a bandwagon: jumping on the conclusion made by another charismatic player without further consideration.
agreed here completely. Trusting Epig's read of Elo when Epig's alliance is very much in question doesn't make sense to me.

I have felt good about Epig despite our disagreements on strategy. I do not remember him being wrong about his wife as of yet. I could see him lying about this, but I don't think he is.

#1301

Snake Mountain's Demons

DharmaHelper was trying to help the Eternians, but she ran out of spells because her sigil was broken. She missed every time and wound up knocked into a spiked pit.

reywaS attacked his enemy but his hand was eaten. His love life from then on was ruined.

Flyin' High shot the enemy from a distance. She reloaded but one of hell's hosts hoisted her high into the air, ready to drop her to her doom.

boo was busy doing something else.

Only Epigonsis could save them.

It is now time for you to Start Listening to Epignosis.

#1302

Epignosis wrote:
Snake Mountain's Demons
DharmaHelper was trying to help the Eternians, but she ran out of spells because her sigil was broken. She missed every time and wound up knocked into a spiked pit.

reywaS attacked his enemy but his hand was eaten. His love life from then on was ruined.

Flyin' High shot the enemy from a distance. She reloaded but one of hell's hosts hoisted her high into the air, ready to drop her to her doom.

boo was busy doing something else.

Only Epigonsis could save them.

It is now time for you to Start Listening to Epignosis.

This is the song of my people.

#1303

Epignosis wrote:
Snake Mountain's Demons
DharmaHelper was trying to help the Eternians, but she ran out of spells because her sigil was broken. She missed every time and wound up knocked into a spiked pit.

reywaS attacked his enemy but his hand was eaten. His love life from then on was ruined.

Flyin' High shot the enemy from a distance. She reloaded but one of hell's hosts hoisted her high into the air, ready to drop her to her doom.

boo was busy doing something else.

Only Epigonsis could save them.

It is now time for you to Start Listening to Epignosis.

#1304

Alright, that took a while. Posts coming shortly!

#1305

Night 2: The Battle for Eternia

The shieldbearer had been selected. "bea!!" cheered the crowd. She was handed the shield of Grayskull. Some cursed under their breath.

"Now, let's get a move on!" demanded reywaS. "Evil does not rest!"

The players marched onto the battlefield. Chaos ensued. They began attacking one another.

Unfortunately, amid all the chaos, evil was able to disguise itself, and make its move. A Big Daddy revealed itself and drilled reywaS to his death. He screamed bloody murder.

Mycroft was unhappy with insertnamehere. "You bloody liar," he scowled. Instead of raising a sword, he pulled out a gun, and shot insertnamehere in the head, killing him instantly.

The champions conferred after it was deemed that the battle should be over, realizing that two had fallen. They were saddened to see reywaS drilled to death and knew it was the work of something truly evil.

They were not quite as sad to see insertnamehere had met his end. Many were happy, in fact. But some were angered that his true identity was not revealed.

Nonetheless, the Battle for Eternia was a sloppy bloodshed that the champions hoped had worked out better. They must not let their anger fuel them as much, and instead, in honor of reywaS, seek justice for evildoers tomorrow.

The voice suddenly interfered much more. "So, are we ready for a new environment?" he inquired. They were silent.

"I will take that as a yes," the voice said. "First, though... there is something I want to show all of you. Courtesy of Jim Moriarty!" It started laughing.

Suddenly, a couple dozen papers started raining to the ground. The champions each picked up the piece of paper, which said:

"Lizzy = Jack Torrence"

Then another barrage of papers started raining. The players were intrigued. The second group of papers said:

"Epignosis = Homestar Runner"

"Oh, one more thing too!" the voice added. "I have one other piece of paper for all of you! This time courtesy of Jack Torrence himself!" It chuckled.

The last piece of paper detailed Mr. Torrence's thoughts: "Beware! The shield is a trap."

reywaS has been killed by Big Daddy (Bouncer).
insertnamehere has been killed by Mycroft Holmes.

To be continued...

#1306

Night 2: A Squid Eating Dough in a Polyethylene Bag Is Fast and Bulbous, Got Me?

A white light flashed, once more!

This time, however, the area around them remained completely white. Nothing but blank, white, empty space.

"What the hell??" asked BigDamnHero.

The voice could be heard laughing.

Suddenly, the champions heard a wailing saxophone and the atmosphere around them changed in accordance with the music. "Is this some kind of acid trip?" asked juliets. "Not quite..." responded Boomslang.

The music constantly shifted, and as it did, so did the environment around them, which proved to be incredibly distracting.

It is now Day 3. You have 48 hours to fight the establishment.

#1307

Day 3 Event: Psychic Jugglers

Suddenly, a portal opened up out of nowhere.

"Ooooh, a portal!" exclaimed Mongoose. "Let's check it out!" she exclaimed. The champions were a bit hesitant, but many were so ready to be rid of the chaotic dimension that surrounded them currently, so they collectively decided to enter.

Once they all had entered and the portal closed behind them, they realized they had made a mistake. The atmosphere could only be described as bizarre -- with twisting colors of purple, blue, and black all around them, the ceilings, walls, and floors indistinguishable. Many of them felt very dizzy and could hardly stand.

How could they properly fight the establishment now?

It is still Day 3.

#1308

Dom wrote:Bullz, I'm sorry I wasn't clear that I didn't mean YOU called it a bandwagon. I was speaking generally using your post as jumping point.

Boomslang voted for Bea. He called the Elo votes a bandwagon. Four elo voters. One is herself. The other is her husband. The other is me. The other is hedge. I have similar as hedge for voting Elo.

However, Boomslang votes on a person who got the 21st, 22nd, 23rd, 24th, and 25th votes (His being he 25th).

I think Bullz and Boom might feel differently if they had played LOST or AGods, although rey did and that hasnt changed his opinion. Epis defense of civ Elo became major issues in those games and was discussed to death (elo's that is

), but again he was right and was the first to go after her in AGods after she replaced back in as a baddie and he suspected her.

So yes, I trust his judgement on Elo more than I trust mine on anyone in this game. As I already stated this is a waaay more thought out reason with lots of history to it than "i am getting civve vibes from bea." I always get civvie vibes from bea, because she's super involved and awesome, but doenst mean I trust her yet this game. I dont really want this to derail the whole thread like it did in the other games, so I am trying to answer questions, but Dom made some excellent points as well. Why the attack on Elo vs. bea voters?

Linki

night post

#1309

aw shit

#1310

This is going to be an interesting day, that is for certain. RIPIYWG Reydog and Check you later INH.

#1311

You guys really should have voted for me....

#1312

Hedgeowl wrote: I dont really want this to derail the whole thread like it did in the other games, so I am trying to answer questions, but Dom made some excellent points as well. Why the attack on Elo vs. bea voters?

When I first commented about the Elo votes, Bea only had 2 votes on her. They began to fly in right after I self-voted. I don't think it's entirely normal that she got like 4 in a row, but nor do I agree with voting for someone just because someone else (albeit someone very close to that person) whose allegiance is unclear says it's a good idea.

#1313

Also, a tin teardrop.

#1314

RIPIYWG Rey. I'm just glad we can finally stop talking about INH. Would have preferred to know his role though.

Nice poll too. I'm going to try and see if I can think of a way around this. And no, I highly doubt he did all our names in alphabetical order. That would be too obvious.

Linki

#1315

birdwithteeth11 wrote:RIPIYWG Rey. I'm just glad we can finally stop talking about INH. Would have preferred to know his role though.

Nice poll too. I'm going to try and see if I can think of a way around this. And no, I highly doubt he did all our names in alphabetical order. That would be too obvious.

Linki

No I think it's far more likely MP randomized our names and then put those numbers up. :P

#1316

Okay, if I missed any night PMs to anyone or if any of you have questions, as always, PM me. This game has a lot going on, so it's possible I may miss something, even though I try my hardest not to.

#1317

If anyone gets a rez, you know who to use it on.

#1318

I am sad to see INH night killed because he would have been the safest way to vote today. Meh.

So Robert, what do you think of the fact no one was lynched?

#1319

insertnamehere wrote:If anyone gets a rez, you know who to use it on.

Yeah, anyone but the guy who's probably a dangerous indy with no reason to have any affection for the civs after we tried to bandwagon him twice!

#1320

I am a little confused about how Mycroft Holmes is killing people.

#1321

Spacedaisy wrote:I am sad to see INH night killed because he would have been the safest way to vote today. Meh.

So Robert, what do you think of the fact no one was lynched?

To be honest, I thought I was fucked.

I'm a bit relieved, and at the same time not so much.

Tell your boyfriend he's an asshole.

#1322

I'm just going to bide my time until the black lodge portion of the game...

#1323

Me, AP, and SVS are having a party is the super secret important deadie thread where we decide who to NK. There's cake and everything.

#1324

Epignosis wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:I am sad to see INH night killed because he would have been the safest way to vote today. Meh.

So Robert, what do you think of the fact no one was lynched?
To be honest, I thought I was fucked.

I'm a bit relieved, and at the same time not so much.

Tell your boyfriend he's an asshole.

I tell him that all the time. The question is why you are saying it?

#1325

Spacedaisy wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:I am sad to see INH night killed because he would have been the safest way to vote today. Meh.

So Robert, what do you think of the fact no one was lynched?
To be honest, I thought I was fucked.

I'm a bit relieved, and at the same time not so much.

Tell your boyfriend he's an asshole.
I tell him that all the time. The question is why you are saying it?

I don't know my dear.

#1326

Mmmm hmm.

#1327

So we are faced with a random lynch, it seems. Hardly good odds. I think we should all just vote for #1 and get it over with.

#1328

thellama73 wrote:I am a little confused about how Mycroft Holmes is killing people.

What do you think we should do, A.S.S.?

#1329

thellama73 wrote:So we are faced with a random lynch, it seems. Hardly good odds. I think we should all just vote for #1 and get it over with.

I will if you will.

#1330

This is Avant Land I think.

Who deserves to win?