Battlestar Galactica Mafia - GAME OVER

#3851

a2thezebra wrote:I think it's been well-established at this point that this game consists entirely of independents, in a manner of speaking.

Not only do I see absolutely no value in "claiming" I also think it's seriously damaging a majority's chancing of winning.

What is the damage?

#3852

Oh never mind, I misread something.

#3853

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:I think it's been well-established at this point that this game consists entirely of independents, in a manner of speaking.

Not only do I see absolutely no value in "claiming" I also think it's seriously damaging a majority's chancing of winning.
What is the damage?

You really want me to spell it out in-thread?

If you weren't already confirmed town this post would be pretty suspicious.

#3854

a2thezebra wrote:You really want me to spell it out in-thread?

If you weren't already confirmed town this post would be pretty suspicious.

#3855

JJJ and zebra have missed the salute.

#3856

What's that supposed to mean?

#3857

Ricochet wrote:JJJ and zebra have missed the salute.

#3858

#3859

a2thezebra wrote:What's that supposed to mean?

Exactly.

Also, why the effraking frak are you picking on JJJ for abiding the plan for everyone to do the Cylonclaim? Twisteroo, much?

#3860

So say we all.

Vote:LoRab

Y'all crazy if you do anything else.

#3861

bea wrote:
ObscureAllure wrote:
LoRab wrote:

ObscureAllure wrote:So you would put me before LoRab? Before people who have already said it and are cylon mafia like LongCon? I've already proven I'm not Nutella's partner in crime. You want to come after me for refusing to get punished again while ignoring mafia? That's on you. I've already received golden's wrath once this game, y'all done lost your marbles if you think I'm doing it again.
If there is more than 1 mafia, then your not being LA's teammate does not mean that you are not bad.
I hate to admit this because it probably looks bad for me but I do think there are two mafia, one directed by cavil and one that is either all human or mixed. Or, I think it's one mafia with recruiting powers. Either way you're right it doesn't completely exclude me. But nonetheless, I am not mafia.
I think a cavil cylon mafia and a secondary human mafia is most likely.

A pure cylon mafia team would mean that a large number of the Cylon roles are not mafia. Cause otherwise a seven-cylon (plus eventual F5 traitors) team doesn't sound much like a small(er) team? Is this what you're implying?

If an all-human mafia team is most likely, how many human baddie are we talking, then?

Why is this theory "most likely"? Again, it's lore likely, sure, but I didn't pick up any signals of it reaching "most-likelihood-ness" within this game.

#3862

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
bea wrote:I'm still stuck in the world's worst Sunday at work. I'm going to go with Nero in light of LoRab amnesty claim. I'm sorry I've been quiet. Hellish 5.99bcarry out weekend has been hellish.

vote nero

Back to hour 12 of work with no end in sight.
I think bea's Nero vote is one of the more suspicious in his wagon. She made only one prior comment in the game relevant to him (which was to ask him a question without giving a read on him). She was clearly short on time which is understandable since my LoRab vote was similarly hastened, but it shouldn't be hard to figure out why I made that vote in a hurry given my LoRab-relevant content prior.

bea acknowledged LoRab's amnesty claim and went for the growing counterwagon instead despite seemingly having had nothing to say about Nero before. In such a hurry as bea was, I'd have expected a vote more relevant to her own stated suspicions than this "go with the flow" vote.

In my hurry to read, I was lead to believe that going with a lorab vote ment that I was hurting the civs because we weren't "finding a baddie" in the second wagon. I know in hindsight this was bad. I'm so so sorry for this.

but from where I was at that moment in time, it was the best decision I could make. Especially as so many people were at that point saying a vote for lorab is null.

I can understand why you would think this. All I have is at the time, my "own stated suspicions" were being said in the thread

#3863

If the game, or at least the phase, would be under majority rule / hammer vote decree, I'd almost agree that we swiftly deal with a lynch that's probably 100% to happen. But since we're not, I think we should equally talk and analyse stuff, not just spend 48 hours with the lynch long consumed.

The only technicality I can see to justify LoRab's claim that she's not a baddie Cylon would be if she's a certain number. But martial law right now forces us into action even so and we probably can't afford to postpone lynching confirmed Cylons too long.

#3864

Ricochet wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:What's that supposed to mean?
Exactly.

Also, why the effraking frak are you picking on JJJ for abiding the plan for everyone to do the Cylonclaim? Twisteroo, much?

What do you mean?

#3865

LoRab wrote:
Matt wrote:Lol I realize that the Saul role wasn't specifically lynched because of the law, I'm just saying...

Gaaah I don't even know how to word it. I just meant because of this law, we didn't nuke a Cylon, but got us a civ.

Suuuucks.

Pres Roslin, please repeal this law so we don't even have to talk about it anymore. It's distracting the town.

Long Con - I don't think we've had a "So Say We All" for awhile either, and yeah, there was no message from Adama. Blocked?
More specifically, you did not lynch a good cylon, had the opportunity to lynch an actual baddie, and lynched a different civ instead.

am I the actual baddie they could have lynched? cuz that's where your vote went and if that's what you belive is the baddie you are exactly as wrong about me as you think I am about you.

if not me then who? If me why nore than I over reacted to a "slip" call that wasn't really a slip on my part in the first place.

#3866

Wait, bea, so you voted on Day Three for a player that you say you had a "null read" on?

#3867

Which is why we need to just do it as opposed to waiting and letting something crazy happen like it did yesterday. If anyone other than the two confirmed cylons die today, I'll scream.

#3868

a2thezebra wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:What's that supposed to mean?
Exactly.

Also, why the effraking frak are you picking on JJJ for abiding the plan for everyone to do the Cylonclaim? Twisteroo, much?
What do you mean?

Adama has saluted. You did not.

#3869

I haven't "saluted" because I'm not as confident that LoRab is bad as I was before, so I won't be voting until later.

#3870

ObscureAllure wrote:Which is why we need to just do it as opposed to waiting and letting something crazy happen like it did yesterday. If anyone other than the two confirmed cylons die today, I'll scream.

What sort of crazy something do you expect to happen? There's the fleet jump posibility, of course, but the three votes on LoRab already have that covered. If we don't build a second major wagon or something of the sort, we are unlikely to witness any more potential crazy amnesty happenings. So what else?

#3871

a2thezebra wrote:I haven't "saluted" because I'm not as confident that LoRab is bad as I was before, so I won't be voting until later.

What does the first thing have to do with other? Do you know what the salute means, at all? Are you even trying? #tryhard2016

#3872

Ricochet wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:I haven't "saluted" because I'm not as confident that LoRab is bad as I was before, so I won't be voting until later.
What does the first thing have to do with other? Do you know what the salute means, at all? Are you even trying? #tryhard2016

#3873

That makes two confirmed civilians acting very suspiciously now. What's going on?

#3874

a2thezebra wrote:That makes two confirmed civilians acting very suspiciously now. What's going on?

I dunno, we're playing this game and... you should... too?

#3875

I am playing this game. If you don't like the way I'm playing it then that's different but don't act like I'm not playing it.

#3876

a2thezebra wrote:I haven't "saluted" because I'm not as confident that LoRab is bad as I was before, so I won't be voting until later.

Zebra - He means saying so say we all

Rico - And since when are zebra or I confirmed civvie? (Not that I'm
Saying either of us aren't civvies, just missed the official memo)

#3877

Ebwop sorry it was zebra that said confirmed civvies sorry I'm tired

#3878

Oh, I thought I already said that for this phase. Lo siento!

So say we all.

#3879

Ricochet wrote:
ObscureAllure wrote:Which is why we need to just do it as opposed to waiting and letting something crazy happen like it did yesterday. If anyone other than the two confirmed cylons die today, I'll scream.
What sort of crazy something do you expect to happen? There's the fleet jump posibility, of course, but the three votes on LoRab already have that covered. If we don't build a second major wagon or something of the sort, we are unlikely to witness any more potential crazy amnesty happenings. So what else?

Have you been watching this game? This is like one of the craziest games I've seen so far. Im still not entirely sure who *I* am for gods sake (I'm kidding. Well, half kidding. I really should watch this show.). and there have been triggers left and right, I've been the victim of it twice already. And now we can't decide if cylons should die or not and if humans can be mafia or not and oh my toasters.... Can we just follow the plan and lynch a cylon?!

#3880

JJJ and Ricochet are - essentially - confirmed civvies.

#3881

LoRab wrote:I'll also point out that everyone is assuming Nero was civ, but we don't actually know that. He could have been on a partly human or human mafia; he could be final five and those 5 may be or may become bad; he could have been recruited. Heck, for all we know, there's a seemer role on the baddie team.

Are you kidding me right now? In the lore, Nero's role as Saul was one of the final 5 and still totally deticated to his human fleet. Even after he spent a lifetime as a human only to find out he was one of the cylons he most racestly hated. Saul was the epitome of what the final 5 is supposed to be about. The fact that he died too early to be one of them is a tradgdy tbh.

this post is the reason I'm voting you early as soon as day breaks.

This is the reason it's now you or me. I know my role I'm comfortable being lynched as the role I've always said I've had - that is human with cylon sympathies.

This is the post where I don't believe you are a cylon working for the cause of good.

#3882

There are almost certainly mafia-aligned humans if anyone is technically mafia-aligned to begin with.

#3883

a2thezebra wrote:JJJ and Ricochet are - essentially - confirmed civvies.

How so?!

#3884

a2thezebra wrote:I am playing this game. If you don't like the way I'm playing it then that's different but don't act like I'm not playing it.

It's not that I don't like anything or something like that, but you have missed the salute, plain and simple. It's all factual, not subjective.

#3885

ObscureAllure wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
ObscureAllure wrote:Which is why we need to just do it as opposed to waiting and letting something crazy happen like it did yesterday. If anyone other than the two confirmed cylons die today, I'll scream.
What sort of crazy something do you expect to happen? There's the fleet jump posibility, of course, but the three votes on LoRab already have that covered. If we don't build a second major wagon or something of the sort, we are unlikely to witness any more potential crazy amnesty happenings. So what else?
Have you been watching this game? This is like one of the craziest games I've seen so far. Im still not entirely sure who *I* am for gods sake (I'm kidding. Well, half kidding. I really should watch this show.). and there have been triggers left and right, I've been the victim of it twice already. And now we can't decide if cylons should die or not and if humans can be mafia or not and oh my toasters.... Can we just follow the plan and lynch a cylon?!

We certainly can. I just don't see what can arise from not voting LoRab truckload dump style.

#3886

Rico, what do you think of Bea, Glorfindel, Sig and DrWilgy?

#3887

bea wrote:
LoRab wrote:I'll also point out that everyone is assuming Nero was civ, but we don't actually know that. He could have been on a partly human or human mafia; he could be final five and those 5 may be or may become bad; he could have been recruited. Heck, for all we know, there's a seemer role on the baddie team.

Are you kidding me right now? In the lore, Nero's role as Saul was one of the final 5 and still totally deticated to his human fleet. Even after he spent a lifetime as a human only to find out he was one of the cylons he most racestly hated. Saul was the epitome of what the final 5 is supposed to be about. The fact that he died too early to be one of them is a tradgdy tbh.

this post is the reason I'm voting you early as soon as day breaks.

This is the reason it's now you or me. I know my role I'm comfortable being lynched as the role I've always said I've had - that is human with cylon sympathies.

This is the post where I don't believe you are a cylon working for the cause of good.

Uhm day has broken.

But yeah, this tutti frutti post from LoRab doesn't sit well with me either, not one bit.

#3888

Ricochet wrote:
ObscureAllure wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
ObscureAllure wrote:Which is why we need to just do it as opposed to waiting and letting something crazy happen like it did yesterday. If anyone other than the two confirmed cylons die today, I'll scream.
What sort of crazy something do you expect to happen? There's the fleet jump posibility, of course, but the three votes on LoRab already have that covered. If we don't build a second major wagon or something of the sort, we are unlikely to witness any more potential crazy amnesty happenings. So what else?
Have you been watching this game? This is like one of the craziest games I've seen so far. Im still not entirely sure who *I* am for gods sake (I'm kidding. Well, half kidding. I really should watch this show.). and there have been triggers left and right, I've been the victim of it twice already. And now we can't decide if cylons should die or not and if humans can be mafia or not and oh my toasters.... Can we just follow the plan and lynch a cylon?!
We certainly can. I just don't see what can arise from not voting LoRab truckload dump style.

I think it's far less likely for something to go wrong if we take care of the votes now than if we wait.

#3889

Polo wrote:Rico, what do you think of Bea, Glorfindel, Sig and DrWilgy?

Had them "null", "unlikely teammate", "likely teammate" and "no idea, but wary", based on nutella lynch dynamics.

Have to reassess them, however, based on Day 3 dynamics. Bea already looks worse for admitting to have stacked on Nero's lynch, without having more than a "null" read on him. All the others contributed to Nero's death themselves, so...

Which will happen later.

#3890

Ricochet wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:I am playing this game. If you don't like the way I'm playing it then that's different but don't act like I'm not playing it.
It's not that I don't like anything or something like that, but you have missed the salute, plain and simple. It's all factual, not subjective.

Tons of people miss the salute, that doesn't mean that they're not playing.

#3891

ObscureAllure wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:JJJ and Ricochet are - essentially - confirmed civvies.

How so?!

#3892

Golden wrote:THE ARRIVAL OF THE PEGASUS

"... and thats when I heard him say, that Marmot, he is actually slightly better than entirely worthless" said zebra, as she and Matt dissolved into fits of laughter.

They were on their way back to their quarters. They knew that the Admiral had scheduled an FTL jump to a nearby planet rich in Tylium. It was necessary to restock the fleet's supply of fuel - without it, they could not hope to outrun the cylons forever.

The Galactica jumped...

"Sir, DRADIS contact" said Vompatti "I just thought I should say something relevant".

"Attention, unkown vessel. This is the Battlestar Galactica" said sig "Identify yourself, or we will fire upon you."

A voice came back. "To the vessel that claims to be the Battlestar Galactica - this is the Battlestar Pegasus. Identify yourself with recognition codes immediately."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Helena Cain was brought on board Galactica on a raptor. Everyone stood to attention as Cain surveyed them.

"Admiral" said Cain "you've done a fine job here. Your pilots are well trained. It's clear that the human race would not have survived in such numbers without you. I shall ensure you are appropriately honoured for your service as Admiral. However..." she tailed off.

The Admiral looked down at his insignia, and unclipped it from his jacket. "I believe this belongs to you." he said calmly.

No-one has died.

The secret role has been revealed to be Helena Cain. Helena Cain outranked everyone on the Galactica at the time of the destruction of the colonies, so is now the Admiral. She has declared martial law. In addition to any existing win conditions, Admiral Cain is imposing another. No human may win the game while any cylon is alive.

It is now day. You have 48 hours to lynch a frakking cylon.

wtf?

#3893

a2thezebra wrote:
ObscureAllure wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:JJJ and Ricochet are - essentially - confirmed civvies.

How so?!

Zebra is LC a townie?

#3894

Look I'm coping with a paradoxical M.O. here. I don't know for certain if LC is town or not.

#3895

It's certainly interesting that 50% of the people who advocated for his lynch on D2 are now dead. Although one of those was Cylon.

#3896

a2thezebra wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:I am playing this game. If you don't like the way I'm playing it then that's different but don't act like I'm not playing it.
It's not that I don't like anything or something like that, but you have missed the salute, plain and simple. It's all factual, not subjective.
Tons of people miss the salute, that doesn't mean that they're not playing.

Tru. It means they've missed the salute.

#3897

bea ketchups are just about my favourite thing in the world.

ok, off to work.

#3898

I like that everyone who's completely wrong about the game's setup now is going to be completely right by the time the game is finished.

#3899

DrumBeats wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Everyone, before you pile your votes onto Lorab.

We should hang on for a bit first. We've got 48 hours in the day. Also, there has been resistance to "Mass-Cylon-Claim" plan. If any of said players are Cylons, we could effectively force them to use their amnesty before falling back to Lorab.

Just a thought.

Linki w/ Silverwolf: agreed.
True true, my bad jumping the gun.

Bea, while you're at it, claim cylon to burn your amnesty.

Nope. Won't do it.

Lynch me as a human.

I might yet, if I live long enough be a Final 5 and that Annesty might help me live to help the humans I fight for.

So yea. No. Not gonna burn that bridge Day 4 before I even know if I have to walk down it or not.

I do - though - as this debate goes on - grow more interested in the peeps who push for the absolutes. You absolutely must burn through your amnesty - right now - to prove you are human. Feels a LOT like "if you have nothing to hide, you have no reason to worry about the government watching what you read, do or watch ala 1984.

#3900

If I say...

I am a you know what.

Does that do anything?

Who be you lynching today?