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Canucklehead wrote:So, I'm by no means a "gamer", and for a long time was super prejudiced against video game culture..... but the BF works in the industry, and so since meeting him I've been learning more and more about games and been exposed to more and more interesting non-mainstream stuff (true fakt: Did you know there's more to video games than Mario and Call of Duty? I did not! Now I do!), so we're playing through a bunch of super cool games (some new, some really old) that he's PROMISED that I'll like. So far, the results have been pretty good. I'm absolutely TERRIBLE at games that require any sort of dexterity and/or timing (watching me play Assassin's Creed: Unity was one of the most hilarious things the BF has experienced recently), but I am really starting to love odd, quirky, story-heavy, puzzle-heavy indie games. My favourites so far are:
Braid (I sucked at it, but found it fascinating.)
Broken Age (we finished Part 1, still playing through Part 2)
Fez (sooooooo weird amazing awesome)
The Talos Principle (reminds me of Myst which was my only previous instance of loving a game, but waaay less creepy)
Valiant Hearts (it has a dog!)
Stacking (such a neat mechanic!)

If you guys have suggestions for things you think I would like based on this list, let me know!!
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Epignosis wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I just now bought Fallout 3 and New Vegas. :blush:
Say goodbye to countless hours. lol
i can count them.

Video games don't work that way anymore when you have kids. ;)
Good thing I dont have kids lol.

A little over 1000 hours into SF4. Not counting Third Strike, and my brief stint with SFxTK. Or Marvel. Or SkullGirls.

I think I broke 350 in oblivion. A little over 200 for Skyrim. and then I've played hundreds of other games too. I'm sure somewhere with all my games ever combined I've got a solid 365 days of pure uninterrupted video gaming.

EDIT: Well when I put Street Fighter into perspective, I've been playing it for 5 years. Almost 2 months of time over a 5 year span aint too bad
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Canucklehead wrote:So, I'm by no means a "gamer", and for a long time was super prejudiced against video game culture..... but the BF works in the industry, and so since meeting him I've been learning more and more about games and been exposed to more and more interesting non-mainstream stuff (true fakt: Did you know there's more to video games than Mario and Call of Duty? I did not! Now I do!), so we're playing through a bunch of super cool games (some new, some really old) that he's PROMISED that I'll like. So far, the results have been pretty good. I'm absolutely TERRIBLE at games that require any sort of dexterity and/or timing (watching me play Assassin's Creed: Unity was one of the most hilarious things the BF has experienced recently), but I am really starting to love odd, quirky, story-heavy, puzzle-heavy indie games. My favourites so far are:
Braid (I sucked at it, but found it fascinating.)
Broken Age (we finished Part 1, still playing through Part 2)
Fez (sooooooo weird amazing awesome)
The Talos Principle (reminds me of Myst which was my only previous instance of loving a game, but waaay less creepy)
Valiant Hearts (it has a dog!)
Stacking (such a neat mechanic!)

If you guys have suggestions for things you think I would like based on this list, let me know!!
You have convinced me to play this one. :D
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Epignosis wrote:I just now bought Fallout 3 and New Vegas. :blush:
What do you think of them so far?

Anyone else looking forward to Fallout 4? I was hoping for Philadelphia or NYC,
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Anyone here play Total War series if so have any of you played Total War: Attila is it worth buying? I've read mixed things about it.
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Fall Out 4 looks sick can't wait to play it.
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sig wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I just now bought Fallout 3 and New Vegas. :blush:
What do you think of them so far?
I'll let you know once I finish the first two games and then start 3. ;)
sig wrote:Anyone here play Total War series if so have any of you played Total War: Attila is it worth buying? I've read mixed things about it.
One of my favorite series. Unfortunately Rome II was one of the greatest video game disappointments of my life.
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Epignosis wrote:
sig wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I just now bought Fallout 3 and New Vegas. :blush:
What do you think of them so far?
I'll let you know once I finish the first two games and then start 3. ;)
sig wrote:Anyone here play Total War series if so have any of you played Total War: Attila is it worth buying? I've read mixed things about it.
One of my favorite series. Unfortunately Rome II was one of the greatest video game disappointments of my life.
You are playing Falll Out 1 & 2?
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Bass_the_Clever wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
sig wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I just now bought Fallout 3 and New Vegas. :blush:
What do you think of them so far?
I'll let you know once I finish the first two games and then start 3. ;)
sig wrote:Anyone here play Total War series if so have any of you played Total War: Attila is it worth buying? I've read mixed things about it.
One of my favorite series. Unfortunately Rome II was one of the greatest video game disappointments of my life.
You are playing Falll Out 1 & 2?
I am in the middle of the very first game.

When I can, I like to play through a series from the beginning.
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Epignosis wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
sig wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I just now bought Fallout 3 and New Vegas. :blush:
What do you think of them so far?
I'll let you know once I finish the first two games and then start 3. ;)
sig wrote:Anyone here play Total War series if so have any of you played Total War: Attila is it worth buying? I've read mixed things about it.
One of my favorite series. Unfortunately Rome II was one of the greatest video game disappointments of my life.
You are playing Falll Out 1 & 2?
I am in the middle of the very first game.

When I can, I like to play through a series from the beginning.
I think that's the best way to play games. I wasn't able to play Fall Out 1 or 2 before I started Fall Out 3 so I can't wait to hear how they are. Have you ever played the elder Scrolls games?
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I worked through a lot of Morrowind on X-Box but never finished it. Ghostgate. :eek:

I am in the middle of Oblivion on PC right now. I am Grand Champion of the arena. :noble: Finally getting on with the main question, haha. I'll buy Skyrim once I finish it all. I love taking my time with Bethesda games and just soaking it all in.
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Epignosis wrote:I worked through a lot of Morrowind on X-Box but never finished it. Ghostgate. :eek:

I am in the middle of Oblivion on PC right now. I am Grand Champion of the arena. :noble: Finally getting on with the main question, haha. I'll buy Skyrim once I finish it all. I love taking my time with Bethesda games and just soaking it all in.
Aren't you supposed to be beating a different game this summer? :ponder:
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nijuukyugou wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I worked through a lot of Morrowind on X-Box but never finished it. Ghostgate. :eek:

I am in the middle of Oblivion on PC right now. I am Grand Champion of the arena. :noble: Finally getting on with the main question, haha. I'll buy Skyrim once I finish it all. I love taking my time with Bethesda games and just soaking it all in.
Aren't you supposed to be beating a different game this summer? :ponder:
There have been suitcases and shit in front of my TV stand for two weeks. Mother-in-law plus 5 kids (foster and otherwise) here. I came close to losing my shit.

I have played no games.
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Its not always best to play a game in release order. Look at Devil May Cry and Metal Gear Solid.

Also I'm remember why I didn't like Fallout 3. Bethesda doesn't know how to make game that locks up for no reason. Almost done with New Vegas entirely because of it.
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XthAtGAm3RGuYX wrote:Its not always best to play a game in release order. Look at Devil May Cry and Metal Gear Solid.
I take care of that problem by not playing any of the games in those series.
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That's your loss dude
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XthAtGAm3RGuYX wrote:That's your loss dude
I'm 31-years-old, married with three children, I work a full time job, I'm involved in multiple recording projects, I write novels, I do all the cooking, and I host a lot of Mafia here.

Gaming takes a very miniscule chunk of my time, so I have to be selective in what titles I play. ;)
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While re-organizing the basement last night, my wife discovered her old Nintendo Game Boy. She only had three games in her case- Tetris, Super Mario Land, and Pokemon Yellow (which she swears is her sister's game). Needless to say, re-organizing the basement got sidetracked in a big way. :P

Even though she only had a few games, my wife was luckier than I. Your's truly grew up without a Game Boy or any kind of gaming console. I did have Tiger Electronics handheld games, a Konami TMNT game, my dad's old Mattell Classic Football handheld, and an frustratingly difficult handheld football game by Coleco called Electronic Quarterback. We found all of those last night too.
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She's a bad person for either lying about Pokemon Yellow not being hers, or stealing it from her sister. 0/10, would recommend divorce.
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I had a console for NES games* when I was young and was totally addicted to it. It withstood countless technical resurrections, nine-lives style, courtesy of my dad being so awesome at fixing things. I didn't have the internet and game reviews back then, so I wasn't able to find out that most of the games I was playing were absolute crap and got attached to most of them: Alien3, Back to the Future 2 & 3, Bomber King, Batman (the cool one), Zen Intergalactic Ninja, Star Force, plus a lot of bootleg cartridges with up to 50 games on 'em.

*I wrote it as SEGA, but then checked images on internet and it was totally not a SEGA and now I can't remember at all what type it was fark

Later I got a GameBoy Advance with some games, but this time I had developed the sense of telling they're all a steaming pile of shit and it didn't take long to quit playing them.

One time I borrowed a neighbour friend's GameBoy to play sum Pokemanz (Red or Yellow or someth.), but started a new game and basically deleted his entire full PokeDex, including stuff he had to trade via other GBs. To this day, his "you fucked up my entire life" expression haunts me. :puppy:
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Ricochet wrote:
One time I borrowed a neighbour friend's GameBoy to play sum Pokemanz (Red or Yellow or someth.), but started a new game and basically deleted his entire full PokeDex, including stuff he had to trade via other GBs. To this day, his "you fucked up my entire life" expression haunts me. :puppy:
What kinda dumbass says

"Yeah you can borrow my Pokemon cartridge that only has one save state slot."

He fucked his own shit up.
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XthAtGAm3RGuYX wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
One time I borrowed a neighbour friend's GameBoy to play sum Pokemanz (Red or Yellow or someth.), but started a new game and basically deleted his entire full PokeDex, including stuff he had to trade via other GBs. To this day, his "you fucked up my entire life" expression haunts me. :puppy:
What kinda dumbass says

"Yeah you can borrow my Pokemon cartridge that only has one save state slot."

He fucked his own shit up.
Nope, he told me not to start anew, but then I forgot.
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Ricochet wrote:One time I borrowed a neighbour friend's GameBoy to play sum Pokemanz (Red or Yellow or someth.), but started a new game and basically deleted his entire full PokeDex, including stuff he had to trade via other GBs. To this day, his "you fucked up my entire life" expression haunts me. :puppy:
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Ricochet wrote:
XthAtGAm3RGuYX wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
One time I borrowed a neighbour friend's GameBoy to play sum Pokemanz (Red or Yellow or someth.), but started a new game and basically deleted his entire full PokeDex, including stuff he had to trade via other GBs. To this day, his "you fucked up my entire life" expression haunts me. :puppy:
What kinda dumbass says

"Yeah you can borrow my Pokemon cartridge that only has one save state slot."

He fucked his own shit up.
Nope, he told me not to start anew, but then I forgot.
Oh. Well that sucks then. But do you know what wouldve helped there?
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Oh. Well that sucks then. But do you know what wouldve helped there?
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True. It's the only moral relief that kept me believing ever since that maybe I am not the most evil person on the planet. :puppy:
A Person wrote: Growing up, I only had Nintendo consoles (no handhelds at all). I had a NES, I think we only had Super Mario Bros/Duck Hunt, and a SNES, for which we only had The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past and Donkey Kong Country. My dad threw out the NES because the power cord broke (still upset about that) and we got a new slim looking SNES at some point, and Donkey Kong Country 2. We still have our first N64 mostly in functioning condition. I didn't have many games until the N64, and even then not many, and I missed out on growing up with Pokemon games :(
Oh man, I had a console rifle for Duck Hunt, but it simply refused to work properly. I never played any Marios, Zeldas or Donkey Kongs. :grin: My NES also never evolved into a SNES, I simply grew out of it (he says, hiding the folder on his PC where he stored the roms to most of the games he ever played...).

Also, my dad >>>>> your dad, because if the power cord would have died (which must have happened at least 20 times), he would have done everything in his engineering power to fix it.
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RIP Iwata-san :(
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The Christmas before last, we bought Simon Sonic Colors. I didn't know much about it, but it looked cool (Is it just me, or do the backs of video game cases do a poor job describing what you actually do in games these days?). Knowing Simon liked Sonic the Hedgehog, I went ahead and bought it.

May I tell you that Sonic Colors is one of the coolest games for the Wii? It's visually stunning, incredibly fast, and it has one of the best soundtracks I've heard in recent games. While I have not played all Sonic titles, I have played many of them over the years. This one is my favorite.
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I haven't player it myself but I hear Colors and Generations are the only good Sonic game to out of about the last decade or so.

Please don't buy him Sonic 06
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Shame about Iwata. RIP indeed. Any speculations on whether this will significantly alter Nintendo's future path?

Wow, Epi, that's a ringing endorsement. Like Mr. X, I've not heard good things at all about modern Sonic games, with the same two exceptions. I actually have Generations and it's pretty good. Not VERY good, but enjoyable for sure. Always was a bit intrigued about Colors, but never played it.
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I just spent like the last 6 hours watching EVO 2015. Street Fighter is on point this year but a lot of big names getting dropped in pools.

Bass The Clever: This is some of the weird shit that happens at these tournaments sometimes.


Also download Gears 3 so you, me, and MP can play that shit
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XthAtGAm3RGuYX wrote:I just spent like the last 6 hours watching EVO 2015. Street Fighter is on point this year but a lot of big names getting dropped in pools.

Bass The Clever: This is some of the weird shit that happens at these tournaments sometimes.


Also download Gears 3 so you, me, and MP can play that shit
Ok I will download it later. I was watching Evo today and wow those guys are beast.
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I'm so terrible at Gears of War 3. :haha: It is a pretty fun game though, especially considering I'm not a big FPS guy.
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MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm so terrible at Gears of War 3. :haha: It is a pretty fun game though, especially considering I'm not a big FPS guy.
but it's not an FPS though........
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XthAtGAm3RGuYX wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm so terrible at Gears of War 3. :haha: It is a pretty fun game though, especially considering I'm not a big FPS guy.
but it's not an FPS though........
Ah, that's true, probably why I like it. :P
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You guys gonna be on tonight? I'll probably be back at my house in like an hour or two. Only things going on at EVO today that I care about is Marvel and I prefer the finals over pools for that game normally. So I wont really be tuned into EVO today.

Tomorrow on the other hand? Shiiiieeeeett. USF4 and Marvel finals on the same day? In there like swimwear baby.
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I should be around later. I won't be around after like 9 EST so igur out what time works and let me know.
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Bass_the_Clever wrote:I should be around later. I won't be around after like 9 EST so igur out what time works and let me know.
The fuck you going scrub
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http://brawlinthefamily.keenspot.com/20 ... o-minions/

Just... watch it.

(also put headphones on before you click)
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That was fantastic! :haha: Thanks for sharing!
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For the current Steam Sale:

If anyone is looking for cool indiegames, many of which don't get a whole lot of attention from the press, here's a big list.

Of the ones on that list, I would recommend:
Cave Story+ (Probably my favourite out of this list. Great gameplay, music and characters all around. Extremely difficult on higher difficulties, but it's a testament to the quality of the game that I bothered to finish the game on Hard).

Crypt of the Necrodancer (Roguelike + Rhythm. Awesome music, cool gameplay.)
Dustforce (A bit like Super Meat Boy, but more difficult. Controls are a bit more flaky but they never annoyed me).
FTL (Roguelike in space)
Guacamelee (Cool metroidvania action game. Also, you can transform into a chicken)
La Mulana (Old school metroidvania game. Long and incredibly difficult to complete on your own. I certainly needed help.)
Nimbus (You're in a rocket. Use momentum to get to the finish line. Surprisingly fun.)
Papers, Please (GLORY TO ARSTOTZKA)
Risk of Rain (Very cool game until you've gotten all the Artifacts. Then it becomes a snoozefest unless you impose restrictions on your powers yourself)
Before the Echo ($0.99! Sequence on that list. Rhythm game where you control three DDR-style panels of arrows to battle enemies. Cool game with cool music)
Shovel Knight (Megaman, but with a shovel.
SPACECHEM (Only $0.99! My favourite puzzle game ever. Infinite possibilities to solve and optimize the puzzles. Will get fiendishly difficult fast.)
Spelunky (You will die. A lot. But it will be your own fault every single time. Randomly generated levels keep it fresh and exciting.)
Super Hexagon ( $1.01! Definition of pick up and play. I have this game on my tablet as well. I've still only beaten the last level a couple of times as it's insanely difficult, but very fun)
Toki Tori 2 (It's only 75 cents atm, and that is easily worth it. The game mastefully learns you all the new mechanics you need to get through the game. You can go everywhere from the beginning, but chances are you won't be able to figure out how right away)

I didn't expect this list to get this big :beer:
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The Witcher 3..anyone played it? Ive read/heard so many people call it their game of the year for 2015 that it has me intrigued for sure.
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reywaS wrote:The Witcher 3..anyone played it? Ive read/heard so many people call it their game of the year for 2015 that it has me intrigued for sure.
I still have The Witcher 1 and have never gotten around to even installing it. :(
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reywaS wrote:The Witcher 3..anyone played it? Ive read/heard so many people call it their game of the year for 2015 that it has me intrigued for sure.
The Witcher 3 is one of the best games I've ever played. It has such a great story and a lot of awesome lore. I started with the Witcher 2 for the 360 when it was free . A friend of mine suggested that I read about the story to that point and I'm glad I did because it made The Witcher 2 and 3 even better, it also made sense of a lot of the references the characters use in the game. From the music to the landscape it's a beautiful game. I give it a 9.5 out of ten. I highly recommend playing it, but read the synopsis of the first two, or watch one of the many videos on YouTube that will catch you up.
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Epignosis wrote:
reywaS wrote:The Witcher 3..anyone played it? Ive read/heard so many people call it their game of the year for 2015 that it has me intrigued for sure.
I still have The Witcher 1 and have never gotten around to even installing it. :(
Isn't the witcher 1 only on PC ? I would love to play the first one.
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Bass_the_Clever wrote:
reywaS wrote:The Witcher 3..anyone played it? Ive read/heard so many people call it their game of the year for 2015 that it has me intrigued for sure.
The Witcher 3 is one of the best games I've ever played. It has such a great story and a lot of awesome lore. I started with the Witcher 2 for the 360 when it was free . A friend of mine suggested that I read about the story to that point and I'm glad I did because it made The Witcher 2 and 3 even better, it also made sense of a lot of the references the characters use in the game. From the music to the landscape it's a beautiful game. I give it a 9.5 out of ten. I highly recommend playing it, but read the synopsis of the first two, or watch one of the many videos on YouTube that will catch you up.
oh cool. Thanks for the recommendation. I will definitely do that. The game looks completely bat shit crazy (And I find that to be a good thing) :) so a crash course on game lore seems appropriate.
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reywaS wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:
reywaS wrote:The Witcher 3..anyone played it? Ive read/heard so many people call it their game of the year for 2015 that it has me intrigued for sure.
The Witcher 3 is one of the best games I've ever played. It has such a great story and a lot of awesome lore. I started with the Witcher 2 for the 360 when it was free . A friend of mine suggested that I read about the story to that point and I'm glad I did because it made The Witcher 2 and 3 even better, it also made sense of a lot of the references the characters use in the game. From the music to the landscape it's a beautiful game. I give it a 9.5 out of ten. I highly recommend playing it, but read the synopsis of the first two, or watch one of the many videos on YouTube that will catch you up.
oh cool. Thanks for the recommendation. I will definitely do that. The game looks completely bat shit crazy (And I find that to be a good thing) :) so a crash course on game lore seems appropriate.
I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.
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Bass_the_Clever wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
reywaS wrote:The Witcher 3..anyone played it? Ive read/heard so many people call it their game of the year for 2015 that it has me intrigued for sure.
I still have The Witcher 1 and have never gotten around to even installing it. :(
Isn't the witcher 1 only on PC ? I would love to play the first one.
Warning: it is really different than 2 and 3 so patience is required. I suggest reading all books first though.
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How are the books? I got two of the graphic novels and I enjoyed them.
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The books are really fun, easy to read, and aren't that long. First two ones are anthologies and the other five form a huge, single, narrative arc, which if you finish is actually where the first Witcher game starts off. I highly recommend them. I played Witcher 1 first, then read the books, then played the second one. My enjoyment was immense since I knew who the characters appearing were.
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