[END] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

#2351

went for rico, the refusal to give reads doesn't make sense to me. i know the is late, was expecting deadline to have passed :/

#2352

DAY 3

Who is a teammate of Long Con?

Poll ended at Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:36:10 pm

bcornett24
0
No votes
bea
1
TheFloyd73 (9) 3%
Black Rock
0
No votes
Bullzeye
0
No votes
Choutas
0
No votes
Devin the Omniscient
0
No votes
Diiny
0
No votes
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Elohcin
0
No votes
Epignosis
1
motel room (3) 3%
espers
0
No votes
FZ.
0
No votes
Golden
7
bcornett24 (10), MacDougall (11), Devin the Omniscient (14), DrWilgy (28), sig (30), Sorsha (31), Ricochet (33) 21%
JaggedJimmyJay
0
No votes
MacDougall
0
No votes
Matt F
1
Roxy (17) 3%
Metalmarsh89
0
No votes
motel room
0
No votes
Rbzmncaeaei
1
Elohcin (7) 3%
reywaS
0
No votes
Ricochet
6
JaggedJimmyJay (21), Rbzmncaeaei (22), Diiny (24), Golden (26), seaside (27), espers (34) 18%
Roxy
0
No votes
rundontwalk
0
No votes
Russtifinko
4
FZ. (16), Epignosis (18), Bullzeye (19), thellama73 (20) 12%
seaside
0
No votes
sig
0
No votes
Sorsha
4
Matt F (4), Strawhenge (12), Choutas (13), Russtifinko (29) 12%
Strawhenge
0
No votes
TheFloyd73
0
No votes
thellama73
1
bea (23) 3%
MovingPictures07! Because he is truly evil. (host, deadies, non-players)
8
MovingPictures07 (1), HamburgerBoy (2), TinyBubbles (5), Sloonei (6), unfurl (8), juliets (15), S~V~S (25), kneel4justice (32) 24%
Total votes : 34

#2353

Everybody check out that last-second espers vote!

linki - Damn it!

#2354

Sorry if people think it was distracting, but if there is one thing about me... I'll do what it takes to try out my theories. If I'm right, I may have just broken the game open. If I'm wrong, sorry.

#2355

Golden wrote:
Rbzmncaeaei wrote:linki@Golden - Haha, I knew it.
What other solution was there, really!?

We'll see.

#2356

Golden wrote:Hey, I want to be clear rico, I called you, JJJ, bea and LC the scheme team. All four of you.

And one of you is about to be lynched. So lets hope I'm right.

Bring it. I'm still civvity-civ, death is irrelevant for me after today.

#2357

The poll has ended.

Day 3 host post coming ASAP.

#2358

Black Rock, Metalmarsh89, RadicalFuzz, and rundontwalk missed the vote.

RadicalFuzz gets a pass, but the rest of you...

#2359

seaside wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
seaside wrote:U r making it out like I've said no reasons though.
You haven't. You announced a post, lost it (genuinely sorry to hear that) and stuck with "grumpy Rico" as a shield.
Your attitude is scummy.

But I'll go into more detail.
It goes beyond the posts in this last hour too.
U don't care apparently, but obsessively stick around for the end of the day
U r obviously deeply concerned bout the result
The burning down the house post
The way u brush it off
The way u say how u play and defend it so much, yet it being diff to ur actual style etc etc

Ok, go into more detail. Doesn't have to be now. I'm still waiting...
Ok.
I'm wagon for the lynch. The "obsession" to stick around is pretty clear.
Again, no surprise at all.
Ask other players what's up with that, ok?
Well I'm a live wire after all.

No idea what you mean, I said the complete opposite. I defend same as I ever did. What is my actual style to you, even? I keep bringing this up, but you really haven't said anything of me throughout the game. So give me an impression, at least.

#2360

Rbzmncaeaei wrote:
Golden wrote:
Rbzmncaeaei wrote:linki@Golden - Haha, I knew it.
What other solution was there, really!?
We'll see.

Well, I guess there are other solutions. In King Arthur when I called for my lynch, I actually died.

#2361

MovingPictures07 wrote:Black Rock, Metalmarsh89, RadicalFuzz, and rundontwalk missed the vote.

RadicalFuzz gets a pass, but the rest of you...

MM has to climb the Everest now...

#2362

MovingPictures07 wrote:Black Rock, Metalmarsh89, RadicalFuzz, and rundontwalk missed the vote.

RadicalFuzz gets a pass, but the rest of you...

I sense a pile of bodies coming of Alex-exclusive proportions.

#2363

BTW, Zebra, I'm sure you'll win the LW.

I always put more effort than I'm able to sprinkle it with creativity and fun and lose to the latter.

#2364

Ricochet wrote:BTW, Zebra, I'm sure you'll win the LW. I always put more effort than I'm able to sprinkle it with creativity and fun and lose to the latter.

Well since my lyrical inclusions are based on being well-hidden, there may be a third party doing the same thing as me that has us both beat.

#2365

Day 3: WARNING SIGN

Day 3 has ended. bea has been lynched. She was Warning Sign.

It is now Night 3. You have 19 hours to send in your PMs.

#2366

Important Announcement:

Don't Worry About the Government is accepting visitors! PM both hosts now to submit your request!

Love for Sale is accepting offers for its lynch vote tomorrow! PM both hosts now to submit your request!

#2367

Note that you have 19 hours to send all Night PMs. Night 3 won't be getting skipped, so this is for real this time!

Please send all PMs to both hosts by Sunday, October 9th at 8:00PM Eastern.

#2368

Well, fuck.

#2369

Sorry bea. RIP.

#2370

RIP Bea

Why did you apologize Golden?

#2371

#2372

Sorsha wrote:RIP Bea

Why did you apologize Golden?

Because I invited people to lynch me and they did and bea was lynched and was not bad.

#2373

Sorsha wrote:RIP Bea

Why did you apologize Golden?

Believe, believe in mystery.

#2374

That sucks.

#2375

RIP bea.

Did it rip the game open, Golden?

#2376

Also, it's 8am, so "good night". You'll have my reads first thing D4, if I'm still alive.

#2377

#2378

Sadly, only I voted bea prior to D3, so no messages were sent. It really sucks.

#2379

Golden wrote:
Sorsha wrote:RIP Bea

Why did you apologize Golden?
Because I invited people to lynch me and they did and bea was lynched and was not bad.

Is that your fault?
Did you know you were going to survive?

#2380

Ricochet wrote:Sadly, only I voted bea prior to D3, so no messages were sent. It really sucks.

you killed bea?

:O

#2381

seaside wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Sadly, only I voted bea prior to D3, so no messages were sent. It really sucks.
you killed bea?

:O

I didn't have to do anything with it, Golden did. Also, read her revealed role.

#2382

*facepalms at the previous two posts*

#2383

Whoops. Not you Rico, the two before you.

#2384

Ricochet wrote:
seaside wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Sadly, only I voted bea prior to D3, so no messages were sent. It really sucks.
you killed bea?

:O
I didn't have to do anything with it, Golden did. Also, read her revealed role.

u voted for her and she turns up dead and you got nothing to do with it?

#2385

seaside wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
seaside wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Sadly, only I voted bea prior to D3, so no messages were sent. It really sucks.
you killed bea?

:O
I didn't have to do anything with it, Golden did. Also, read her revealed role.
u voted for her and she turns up dead and you got nothing to do with it?

No. Can you read her revealed role?!

#2386

I feel really pretty good about both Rico and JJJ now.

#2387

Rbzmncaeaei wrote:*facepalms at the previous two posts*

Am I missing something?

#2388

Sorsha wrote:
Rbzmncaeaei wrote:*facepalms at the previous two posts*
Am I missing something?

Oh yeah. But I don't even want to come close to breaking the rules so I can't exactly tell you. All I can recommend you do is look closely at Golden's recent posts. You may ask yourself: Why was he trying to get lynched?

#2389

Ricochet wrote:
seaside wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
seaside wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Sadly, only I voted bea prior to D3, so no messages were sent. It really sucks.
you killed bea?

:O
I didn't have to do anything with it, Golden did. Also, read her revealed role.
u voted for her and she turns up dead and you got nothing to do with it?
No. Can you read her revealed role?!

yes, you'll have to explain it to me though.
I see nothing in there about her turning up dead the next day???

Warning Sign – Whenever Warning Sign receives votes against it in a lynch cast by a member of the opposite forum, the subsequent night a message is sent to a randomly selected player of the same forum. That message notifies that player that Warning Sign received vote(s) the previous day. The number of players that receive a message is equal to the number of votes from the opposing forum that Warning Sign took.

#2390

This is not my beautiful Golden lmao

#2391

Rbzmncaeaei wrote:
Sorsha wrote:
Rbzmncaeaei wrote:*facepalms at the previous two posts*
Am I missing something?
Oh yeah. But I don't even want to come close to breaking the rules so I can't exactly tell you. All I can recommend you do is look closely at Golden's recent posts. You may ask yourself: Why was he trying to get lynched?

how would you be breaking the rules if it is something you've worked out from his posts
why be so difficult.

#2392

Because it would be revealing role information? Hello.

#2393

Goes to show what a little faith can do.

#2394

Rbzmncaeaei wrote:
Sorsha wrote:
Rbzmncaeaei wrote:*facepalms at the previous two posts*
Am I missing something?
Oh yeah. But I don't even want to come close to breaking the rules so I can't exactly tell you. All I can recommend you do is look closely at Golden's recent posts. You may ask yourself: Why was he trying to get lynched?

Ok I get it. I didn't realize where Golden was from.

#2395

Answer = Mars.

#2396

#2397

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Relationship between espers and Long Con:

Spoiler: show
espers wrote:hello. voted aokiji/motel room and Long Con.
I've stated repeatedly that I don't care very much about Dusk 0 votes, but I'll give this one the time of day. espers did now know LC at all entering this game, so I'm curious why he saw fit to vote for him. Whaddya got for me, espers?

my picks for that were arbitrary, though i remember consciously avoiding people who were leading the tally. lc did play in that other game of mine, btw, so not a total stranger.

i'm curious as to why this is what you chose to directly ask me about, since you seemed dismissive of day 0 vote material in your other analyses.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Spoiler: show
espers wrote:
espers wrote:
Rbzmncaeaei wrote:Ok J, I would say right now all of these people are more likely to be scum than bcornett: Wilgy, Epig, yourself, Long Con, Russt, sig, Floyd, and llama. That's a LOT of candidates that are preferable to the two that are the most likely to actually be lynched. Nobody knows what they're talking about.

You're voting for someone based on their temporary silence combined an apparent difference in meta. Neither of those are solid reasons compared to the eight people I've listed.
who is the other, town lynch candidate if not long con?
i'd like to see this answered soon tbh. if it's not totally clear: you mentioned "two that are the most likely to actually be lynched", and implied they weren't good choices. one is obviously brian. who is the other leading lynch candidate you're talking about?
espers was the one to notice The Paradox (credit to Zebra). That he was the only one to catch this (to my knowledge) might imply that he was more conscious of LC's place in the tally and in Zebra's commentary than the average bear -- something that would suit his team mates. Might be a stretch, but it's in my head so there you go.

zebra's paradox thing stuck out to me because i thought it might reveal something they knew about the voting tally that wasn't public. that's why i quoted it again and clarified the question; i thought it might speak to something beyond mere error.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Spoiler: show
espers wrote:llama's question about the bea/long con thing struck me as loaded, possibly misdirective without making a real stance, as i alluded to here

golden called llama on-meta in one of his readthrough posts, i asked about this, saying i didn't consider him so. he (golden) didn't respond but it was in a multiquote so that's not too alarming. i stand by my earlier meta judgement of llama though, i've seen nothing to diminish it.

voting thellama73
Indirect LC relevance. espers was critical of llama for his take on bea's response to LC's accusation. Golden asserted llama was on-meta, and espers defied this notion -- something that is surprising given that they'd only played in the same game once before and even that was quite brief.

it was more to me the stark contrast in behaviour between that game and this that stuck out. i'm still curious as to what golden saw to merit that sentence.
i'm willing to acknowledge that that post is stale now in light of lc's flip and golden's quasi-outing.

FZ. wrote:
Rbzmncaeaei wrote:I would say that analysis makes espers look significantly worse.
If you mean his vote, I agree. Assuming I'm right about Russ, and the mafia went with what I think they did, then another mafia member would spread his vote elsewhere. He voted llama after LC voted bcornett, and either way, that's a cop out vote.

linki: Will reply after

i don't agree with this assessment. the tally was tied at 5 each for bcorn, lc and llama when i left, he felt like a legit contender.

#2398

DrWilgy wrote:snip

not a fan of posts like this. it's a whole bunch of nice-looking content without making any organic stances. this isn't the sort of game that can be solved with algorithms.

i don't say that vote analysis like this can't be worthwhile but here wilgy seems to use it as a crutch in lieu of "traditional" scumhunting, as evinced by his vote for golden without other reasoning. avoiding accountability while putting forth a supertown facade.

sorry for relatively flowery language, one of those moods i guess

#2399

i hope golden gets a chance to post as much content as possible before night is out. just, you know, in case

#2400

RIP Bea.

RBZ - Are you saying you believe Golden is a certain role based on hints he may have given? I'm looking over the civvie roles, and I guess I'm not seeing it. However, I did notice that the Mafia has a role where they can copy the power of a player they've NK'd. So whatever role you attribute to Golden, let's remember, it is possible Golden is Mafia, and K4J is whatever role you believe Golden is hinting at.

Golden - Not seeing what you and RBZ are getting at, but regardless, it doesn't matter considering the Mafia has a role which makes whatever claim you are making useless. Begging the town to lynch you when you claim to be civvie just wasted a lynch vote, when I think it could've been much better utilized against Sorsha. Luckily for her, people are now thinking she's civvie (??????).

One good thing that came out of this, which is now we can see who went after Bea hard after LC flipped. Not that that proves anything either way, but I believe will lead us in the right direction.

Sorsha - Till next time.

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