[END] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

[Sloonei]

How did we return to Dusk 0? :o

[Ricochet]

Matt never left it.

[Matt]

Matt never left it.

Ha!

I still remember Long Con making a post before he was lynched saying he didn't think an analysis of Day 0 would offer much, and anyone who tried he would find suspicious.

But the entire town seems to despise talking about Day/Dusk 0 sooooooo

[Bullzeye]

I have fairly bad vibes about BCornett myself tbh, but I feel like my reasoning will be immediately 'discredited' if I share it. It's a card I'm keeping close to my chest until I have more solid reasons to support it, but I certainly wouldn't be opposed to voting for him.

Well, that's an awfully strange thing for a civvie to say during the Night Phase about someone he thinks is bad...

I guess you feel pretty good about the Mafia not NKing you after a post like that, regardless of whether you are right or wrong on bcornett?

Linki -

Given that they don't kill on even nights judging by the roles list, I do feel pretty confident about it actually

Honestly, thanks to Golden's pursuit of me I don't think it's the baddies I have to worry about at night anyway. At least the civ ninja only has a 50% shot at successfully killing me.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

But the entire town seems to despise talking about Day/Dusk 0 sooooooo

Talk about it as much as you think is prudent.

[Matt]

But the entire town seems to despise talking about Day/Dusk 0 sooooooo

Talk about it as much as you think is prudent.

Do you believe Long Con was being honest as a baddie saying Day 0 wasn't important, or do you think he was actively trying to dissuade us from looking too close?

[Matt]

I have fairly bad vibes about BCornett myself tbh, but I feel like my reasoning will be immediately 'discredited' if I share it. It's a card I'm keeping close to my chest until I have more solid reasons to support it, but I certainly wouldn't be opposed to voting for him.

Well, that's an awfully strange thing for a civvie to say during the Night Phase about someone he thinks is bad...

I guess you feel pretty good about the Mafia not NKing you after a post like that, regardless of whether you are right or wrong on bcornett?

Linki -

Given that they don't kill on even nights judging by the roles list, I do feel pretty confident about it actually

Honestly, thanks to Golden's pursuit of me I don't think it's the baddies I have to worry about at night anyway. At least the civ ninja only has a 50% shot at successfully killing me.

I mistakenly believed they killed every night because they killed two nights in a row, but now I remember we skipped Night 2. M'bad.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

But the entire town seems to despise talking about Day/Dusk 0 sooooooo

Talk about it as much as you think is prudent.

Do you believe Long Con was being honest as a baddie saying Day 0 wasn't important, or do you think he was actively trying to dissuade us from looking too close?

Hard to say really, because I personally didn't place very much importance on it. So even if he wasn't being genuine, his comment accurately reflected my own perspective. I would infer at least that Syndicate players were more likely to care about Dusk 0 than RYMers (we never have that kind of thing there).

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Doc, when I get home I'll give you some names.

If Mac is mafia:

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Diiny, bcornett24, espers, Elohcin, Roxy, fingersplints/llama

If bcornett24 is mafia:

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Diiny, espers, Epignosis, motel room, Metalmarsh89, TheFloyd73

[JaggedJimmyJay]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!


I just lost my shit. I actually screamed when I read this.

Someone cool me down! Im seeing red!!

What's going on Doc, give me the juicy goss.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I want to do a thorough analysis of a player drifting under the radar, but I'm not sure who to start with. Any requests?

[RadicalFuzz]

Ooh, pick me!

[TheFloyd73]

Four posts in a row? MovingPictures isn't gonna be happy with that

[TheFloyd73]

Sure, pick me

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Four posts in a row? MovingPictures isn't gonna be happy with that

Did I miss something?

You got it, Fuzz.

[Matt]

I think if you want to lynch an actual baddie - you all need to step back and throw aside all your previous suspicions and who you are listening to/trusting and start completely over.

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MF - still a baddie.

Btw, the irony here is delicious.

JJJ - espers or Floyd

Linki - Yeah Floyd works

[Roxy]

Your lists about who are teams if certain people are bad are funny to me JJJ - thanks for that I needed it <3

Its my idiom to be ironic MF

[TheFloyd73]

Four posts in a row? MovingPictures isn't gonna be happy with that

Did I miss something?

You got it, Fuzz.

Yeah, I think you missed MP's message about it.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Four posts in a row? MovingPictures isn't gonna be happy with that

Did I miss something?

You got it, Fuzz.

Yeah, I think you missed MP's message about it.

Please show me, I ain't see nuffin' man.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Your lists about who are teams if certain people are bad are funny to me JJJ - thanks for that I needed it <3

Can you share the exact moment when you started laughing? Where did the jokes begin for you?

[Roxy]

Four posts in a row? MovingPictures isn't gonna be happy with that

Did I miss something?

You got it, Fuzz.

Yeah, I think you missed MP's message about it.

Why woud MP give a care about 4 posts in a row? I think MP has the record of posts in a row something like 6. or 8 lol

Linky - JJJ it started when you quoted yourself lololololol

[TheFloyd73]

Four posts in a row? MovingPictures isn't gonna be happy with that

Did I miss something?

You got it, Fuzz.

Yeah, I think you missed MP's message about it.

Please show me, I ain't see nuffin' man.

Ah, sorry. MP sent me a message because I was still unsure about rules and so forth.
Can I call you Triple J now on?

[Bullzeye]

Four posts in a row? MovingPictures isn't gonna be happy with that

Did I miss something?

You got it, Fuzz.

Yeah, I think you missed MP's message about it.

Please show me, I ain't see nuffin' man.

Ah, sorry. MP sent me a message because I was still unsure about rules and so forth.
Can I call you Triple J now on?

I've called him that before and it didn't make him cry as far as I know, so I assume he'll be okay with it!

[TheFloyd73]

Four posts in a row? MovingPictures isn't gonna be happy with that

Did I miss something?

You got it, Fuzz.

Yeah, I think you missed MP's message about it.

Please show me, I ain't see nuffin' man.

Ah, sorry. MP sent me a message because I was still unsure about rules and so forth.
Can I call you Triple J now on?

I've called him that before and it didn't make him cry as far as I know, so I assume he'll be okay with it!

That makes me happy

[Matt]

Four posts in a row? MovingPictures isn't gonna be happy with that

Why say that?

I mean, I know why you would say that, but why would you say that? From what I've gathered in the thread, you are from RYM but have never played Mafia before, and I just looked at the rules, and even though it's known that it's discouraged to post so many times in a row, it doesn't say as such in the rules.

So why would you say that?

Linki - I don't see any message from MP talking about that, floyd

Linki -

[TheFloyd73]

Four posts in a row? MovingPictures isn't gonna be happy with that

Why say that?

I mean, I know why you would say that, but why would you say that? From what I've gathered in the thread, you are from RYM but have never played Mafia before, and I just looked at the rules, and even though it's known that it's discouraged to post so many times in a row, it doesn't say as such in the rules.

So why would you say that?

Linki - I don't see any message from MP talking about that, floyd

Linki -

It was a PM, and he stated it was a recommendation.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

ISO for RadicalFuzz at the request of RadicalFuzz:

Link to reywaS posts so he isn't forgotten

There's nothing alignment-indicative here as far as I can tell.

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This is strange.

Diiny, I need you to talk to me. If I have developed any ability to read Syndicate games at all yet, I'd say you're the most likely player on Day 1 to be lynched right now as a direct result of your recent content. If you're town, I need you to give me confidence of that with open and continuous dialogue. You're an asset if you're on my side, but for the moment I harbor doubts.

This and several other posts from J3 are almost literally asking Diiny to townread him. Is this common for J3, or have they worked together extremely well in the past?

My immediate reaction to this post was positive, and I am content to stick with that perspective right now. There are two interpretations to choose from I think:

1. Fuzz is non-mafia and thus had an obvious motive to jump into the thread and begin hunting for mafia. He made the proper effort to catch up with the game and encountered at least this one post by me that made him furrow his brow. So he brought it up.

2. Fuzz is mafia and felt the need to assert himself as a mafia-hunter as soon as possible upon getting involved with the game as a replacement. He opened up an older portion of the thread and pulled out any old thing to talk about, particularly involving a player already getting a decent amount of crap (me), and pretended to find it pingy.

I favor #1 because of the post he elected to question -- I can understand why someone who isn't used to my methods might be put off by my treatment of Diiny (indeed even people who do know me are often still uneasy with my vocal, blatant buddying). I will ask you this though Fuzz: was this really the only post from the earlier portions of the game that pinged you enough to warrant mention? Nothing else?

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Thanks? I'm concerned about how quickly you're forming your conclusions, though. I've made a few posts and, unless you're basing your opinion of me on what Reywas said or did when he was here, that's not very much information. I get that you're looking for town reads, but you're almost too hasty, it's disconcerting.

I noted his uneasiness about my behavior, so I promptly approached him with more of it (by calling him a town read). This was an honest statement by me, but also a means of gauging his reaction to the same manner of conduct that had pinged him prior. It seemed to me an opportunity to judge his language in expressing concerns about my behavior -- I think he has done a good, townie-seeming job of that. He isn't hurling poo at me violently or even bringing my credibility into question; he's just stating his uncertainty about my tendency to drop quick town reads. I dig that.

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@Wilgy & J3:
What was your opinion of Reywas before he had to take his leave?

I have seen one or two players in my time who have had an affinity for intentionally drawing attention to themselves as mafia. They're the minority, but they exist. It's plausible that Fuzz is this sort of mafioso, which would mean posts like this should be alarming. However, I have no real evidence of that being a tendency of his and would have to defer to those who've played with him enough to have a perspective.

DrWilgy, can you touch on this point for me about RadicalFuzz?

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There are like 5 comments were gives people hugs. I tend to have an issue with seeing 1/8th of a persons content being "/hug". I think it makes him suspicious and would probably place him on the lighter side of orange in a revised rainbow.

I will also say I understand how difficult it is to catch up, this thread is massive and has so much content, and it keeps generating more. A lot to remember, and even more to comprehend.

As I previously stated what I gave earlier was mostly gut reads, working on analysis, diiny is up next.

With regard to JJJ:

I agree, having more posts is generally better, but this is not to say that it could not be potentially used to dissuade reads. I am not saying that JJJ is doing this, I am saying that it is possible that he could be. Strategically speaking, it is a great idea, have so many posts that nobody wants to analyze it. I mean he has 7 pages of 50 posts, this is almost 300 posts and it is only day 4.

His quirks in posting don't invalidate his other points. Do you legitimately have a problem with 7/8ths of his contribution just because the other 1/8ths is silly?

That relies on our laziness, and especially in such a large game, is an extremely risky gambit. I'm not saying that posting frequently makes him look good, just that it doesn't make him look bad. Strategically speaking it's a horrible idea, giving the opposing team more evidence to work with when information is our greatest asset.

This man employs language that I find highly agreeable -- he conveys his perspective in such a way that he can be clearly and absolutely understood, but without needing to cram assertive terms into the posts. Reading his posts is actually pleasing me aesthetically, and that can perhaps make him a bit disarming and thus a blind spot. Still, I think his head is in the right place when he refuses to give me town cred merely for posting along while also granting that my post count is not a good reason to suspect me. This is completely true. At least in his treatment of me, I see decent evidence that he is considering both sides of the read and is critically assessing my content in such a way that a mafioso wouldn't always be able to mimick.

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The content continues this way generally. One point I can make is that Fuzz has been pretty squarely focused on bcornett and I, which is rather narrow. Talk about that Fuzz.

Generally I don't see a good reason to call him a suspect. I am reading him as more town than not.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Why woud MP give a care about 4 posts in a row? I think MP has the record of posts in a row something like 6. or 8 lol

I hit 14 straight earlier in the game.

Linky - JJJ it started when you quoted yourself lololololol

[Matt]

Hosts - What is your official position on double, triple, quadruple posting? I'm just curious.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

ISO for TheFloyd73 at the request of TheFloyd73:

One immediate observation I make that surprises me is that only 6 of his 31 posts are entirely OT text. I thought it was a lot more than that based just on following him along live in the thread. So there's a decent number of posts featuring what he intended to be meaningful and relevant.

However, his first 4 posts all came before Day 4. He has only recently started to get more involved (which we all greatly appreciate Floyd ).

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Can someone explain to me how to play this game? I actually have no idea.

I often see new players accused of "milking the noob card" when it appears they're pretending to be more clueless than they really are. This might be seen as such a post. I don't think so though because I don't believe I have ever actually seen that accusation turn out accurate. I am willing to believe Floyd was genuinely confused about what he was supposed to be doing.

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I must say, I'm confused about the speculation surrounding me.

You're participating in the game by placing votes, but not really by involving yourself in the thread. Why have you voted for Elohcin?

I don't know, I can see it in their eyes (or rather... Text).
My lack of posts is from mental shit going on

My brain wants me to interrogate Floyd until I get a real answer about his Elohcin vote instead of the highlighted blowoff.

My heart wants me to town read Floyd for giving no impression that he cares how I feel about his vote.

Still, I'll listen to my brain and at least ask again: Floyd, what about Elohcin made you think she might be a mafioso or serial killer?

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Getting accused by Epignosis can certainly be a death knell.
I will most likely be voting for Devin today but I'm starting to think a Choutus lynch might be good. This is mainly based around his comments about the SK. I also would like to hear some more from Diiny he has gone off the radar completely.

Getting accused by anyone can be a death knell. The right accusation, the right time, nobody is ever safe in Mafia.

Agreed.

Tell me more about this Floyd. What about Bullzeye's post did you agree with specifically, and what makes you feel that way?

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Can I call you Triple J now on?

Absolutely, many people already do.

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There's not enough to take a stance with any conviction. I see room for a baddie to exist in this post history, and I see room for a townie to exist in this post history. Talk to me Floyd and help me make up my mind.

[Tangrowth]

So I very much dislike influencing the game in any way whatsoever, but I feel as though I should clarify regarding 2 recent topics:

1) At some point, Floyd did ask me for advice regarding posting and I indeed advised him against spamming the thread. I don't recall using the number 4, but maybe there was a miscommunication somewhere or I'm having a brain lapse (completely possible). I'm personally not against multiple posts in a row if those posts are meaningful. Nonetheless, there will be no punishments doled out even for people spamming the thread with off-topic. I have no official position on this matter.

2) Regarding Russtifinko, I have been trying my best to warn folks via PM if they get close to the 72-hour mark, but only for first infractions. Thereafter, I have nonetheless on a few occasions tried reaching out to players (such as RDW) who have been absent for longer than that period.

Neither of these situations is dependent on either player's alignment, so I would advise against reading into them as such. I hate that I even have to weigh in here, but I feel as though I should.

[Epignosis]

So I very much dislike influencing the game in any way whatsoever, but I feel as though I should clarify regarding 2 recent topics:

1) At some point, Floyd did ask me for advice regarding posting and I indeed advised him against spamming the thread. I don't recall using the number 4, but maybe there was a miscommunication somewhere or I'm having a brain lapse (completely possible). I'm personally not against multiple posts in a row if those posts are meaningful. Nonetheless, there will be no punishments doled out even for people spamming the thread with off-topic. I have no official position on this matter.

2) Regarding Russtifinko, I have been trying my best to warn folks via PM if they get close to the 72-hour mark, but only for first infractions. Thereafter, I have nonetheless on a few occasions tried reaching out to players (such as RDW) who have been absent for longer than that period.

Neither of these situations is dependent on either player's alignment, so I would advise against reading into them as such. I hate that I even have to weigh in here, but I feel as though I should.

That's why we have this:

[TheFloyd73]

There's not enough to take a stance with any conviction. I see room for a baddie to exist in this post history, and I see room for a townie to exist in this post history. Talk to me Floyd and help me make up my mind.

I shall.

My lack of posting over the first three days was due to an issue I was (and currently, still am) facing. If you wish to discuss this further please PM me.

The post I sent stating an explanation to play the game was genuine. I had read over the rules, but from lack of experience, I was still unsure of a large amount of detail. Since then, I've progressively grooved into it, although I am far from an expert.

With Elohcin, I'm trying to find the posts associating my suspicion. When I find them, I will explain.

I was agreeing on Bullzeye's statement that no one is safe on Mafia. A quick read through the thread proves that statement.

Actually, Triple J, wasn't it you who recommended I join Mafia on RYM?

[RadicalFuzz]

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I have not read the entire thread, and at this moment do not intend to unless asked to. I read through where my first post was up, and I very loosely skimmed the early pages of the game until I got to that post. I saw you were still alive, so I figured that was as good a place to start as any. Apologies if that sounds lazy, especially compared to the amount of work you put in to ISO every player with regards to Long Con, but I'd rather spend that time with current events.

As for calling attention to myself, if you'll take an obviously biased answer, it's a defense mechanism. By getting people to acknowledge me and converse either with or about me it becomes harder to misinterpret things I say, intentionally or otherwise, or for a wagon to form on me without the thread's opinions on me already known. If Wilgy, for instance, were to say on Day 3 that he thought I was neutral-townish then if he was calling for my head on Day 4, without any evidence specifically from Day 4, then that points to ulterior motives. It also serves to marginally dissuade the Mafia from night killing mes, as there'd be a good amount of information to draw from after I flip. Also I loathe being ignored, so the easiest way to avoid that is to make odd requests such as "would you ISO me?" or ask other players what they think of my allegiance.

I don't have an aptitude for catching things I'm not already looking at. You unnerve me, so I'm not going to take my eye off you. I'm focused on bcornett for a similar reason, although there are differences. I'm a symbiotic player, I work best playing off someone else, so I want to believe you're town because we could , but I've fallen in that hole before so I'm remaining cautious. As for bcornett, it's a similar kind of gut read, I see some kind of nervousness or tension in his posts that makes me hesitate. Similarly to you, I'd prefer to keep playing to my strengths, but if you want me to expand my view I can try.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

ISO of espers at the request of Matt F:

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Seaside was the most active poster and asked a ton of questions.

Interesting. I don't think he posted once yet in the main game.

he's currently at the nrl grand final down in sydney, he mentioned this in the day 0 thread.

one thing that might be of note: he asked strawhenge if he had any special abilities in that thread. i asked him about it and he appeared not to know about the infodumping rules (or any of what was mentioned in the first posts of the signup thread)

choutas replied to this exchange, saying that scumslips weren't very common and that seaside's original question read to him as frivolous/banter. that seemed a bit incongruous to me, i'd like choutas to explain it. i might be misremembering the particulars though, wish i could look back over it

I don't actually find this post indicative of anything; I just have a remark. espers, you raised this point about Choutas but I don't believe you followed up on it.

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Question for the group:
Was Bea's reaction to one early, changeable vote an overreaction or an appropriate reaction?
Discuss.

Current track: Brian Eno - Sparrowfall (3) (1:24)

i read it as more of a reaction to the reasoning behind the vote than the fact of the vote itself, so on that level it didn't seem like an overreaction.

i am curious about why you'd want to broadcast a leading question like this into the thread without espousing your own position, though.

This is relevant for its indirect relevance to LC, I don't know if I covered it in the prior interaction analysis. llama's open-ended question was supportive of LC's case against bea I think, and espers worked against that by taking bea's side. It's a small point because of the multiple links involved, but it's an okay look for him.

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2. Lynch Mac for having it all worked Putin day 0 but not doing a thing to help town in ANY way but to boast. I reakon he is the rogue.

what makes you think he's the rogue? wouldn't he be more likely to be mafia if he's anti-town?

this is reminding me overwhelmingly of when osokoi/longford made a similarly inexplicable rogue read on a player in rym 87, and he was mafia.

voting seaside

Shameless hypocrisy here: I am brought to wonder now whether Seaside's early game arbitrary reads were a means of gauging who was interested in attacking easy targets (whether he intended it or not). I say it's hypocritical of me because I questioned Seaside for his random rogue read on Mac as well. I do acknowledge now though that it did make Seaside an easy target and there may have been mafia interest in taking advantage of that. espers does get a little credit for referencing a prior game example that I can vouch for though.

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Can I point out that there is a player out there with this scum role.

"(Nothing But) Flowers – Can't get used to the lifestyle brought about by the new players. Its vote is worth x3 against players from the opposite forum. It cannot be harmed by night powers used by players from the same forum. If it carries out the kill, it cannot kill players from the same forum."

it's worth noting that if that player is voting now, they're probably voting someone from the same forum to avoid drawing attention on the tally, since there are no other vote manipulation things going on at this point iirc.

changing my vote to russ to make things interesting. i won't be back on till after deadline, at which point i'll have more to say about jjj and llama.

I'm curious what you meant here, espers, with regards to the Nothing but Flowers role. Why would LC have needed to hide his vote on a player from his own forum when the extra votes were already hidden by default?

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looking through jay's history in an attempt at a read and i'm not really sure i'm seeing the same things i was before. going to have to reevaluate, maybe i'll sleep on it.

gotta love procrastination.

Prior to this, espers had expressed concern about my vote for sig (who he asserted was an easy target). I really did place that vote, so I'm surprised that espers changed his mind about me like this. What had you worried about me which was dissolved upon further inspection at this point in this game? If the sig vote was the problem then I don't understand why it ceased to be a problem.

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So JJJ, Why do you think lynching Sorsha is a mistake?

I wouldn't use such strong language as "it's a mistake" quite yet, but I am beginning to doubt the case against her. I feel her content reflects her explanation of that content very acutely, and in a way that isn't easy to simply read-and-report. I also think she has done a nice job of answering questions with believable and meaningful content -- I am reminded of my earlier conversations with sig who I'd suspected and more recently began to trust.

There's also the fact that 7 votes poured onto Sorsha without a hint of resistance.

What are your current misgivings about Sorsha in light of the defenses she has provided most recently in response to my queries?

what kind of resistance would you expect to see if she's town? or are you implying you think there's scum involvement on her wagon?

This question strikes me as a little unnecessary. I think the answer was self-evident. Yes, a Sorsha bandwagon being mounted quickly with no resistance would suggest a scum presence on that wagon and/or a lack of scumminess in the person being wagoned. Potential filler content.

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Disclaimer: While I have subbed in, I will be unavailable for the most part until either Sunday night or Monday morning. I have a little time in between, but I imagine most of that will be catching up. Just keep that in mind, whether you decide to lynch me or leave me be until I get caught up.

why are you worried about being lynched so soon after replacing in?

Might be another example of taking advantage of an easy opportunity to make a post which provides the appearance of investigation.

Large response to my prior interactive ISO

I think espers does a nice job of answering to my prior points, particularly the bit about Zebra's "paradox". What I'd like to know more about is espers' insistence that llama was off-meta in this game. espers, please illustrate in specific terms if you can what made llama noticeably different in this game from what you saw for a very short time in your only other game with him.

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not a fan of posts like this. it's a whole bunch of nice-looking content without making any organic stances. this isn't the sort of game that can be solved with algorithms.

i don't say that vote analysis like this can't be worthwhile but here wilgy seems to use it as a crutch in lieu of "traditional" scumhunting, as evinced by his vote for golden without other reasoning. avoiding accountability while putting forth a supertown facade.

sorry for relatively flowery language, one of those moods i guess

Not a fan of posts like this. He's right that DrWilgy's effort in vote analysis doesn't make him an automatic townie, but I don't like the way he discredits the effort and suggests it only exists for the sake of appearance. There was a lot of data in Doc's effort which can have obvious practical application in baddie hunting and I am not sure espers gave enough thought to the post. I get the impression that he saw the formatting and concept of it and decided to criticize it without thoroughly assessing what it actually had to offer.

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has jjj ever complained of mafia burnout/tiredness inhibiting his ability to play before?

If espers believes there's any real chance that I wouldn't ever experience burnout or fatigue as a townie in mafia games, then he thinks I am literally Lieutenant Commander Data.

I think he's aware of my human limitations.

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voting sorsha

don't like some of the later votes on the devin wagon and straw's sorsha case was pretty compelling /piggybacking

no slight against the ppl defending sorsha, but you were wrong about lc, why should we believe you now?

I thought this was an ugly post before the Sorsha flip and it didn't improve any post-flip. He lumped all of Sorsha's defenders into an invalid grouping ("people who were wrong about LC") and then discredited all of them simultaneously. Bad look.

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There's a decent amount of suspicious content here. I read espers as more mafia than town.

[TheFloyd73]

I swear Triple J has too much time on his hands.
I mean that as a compliment, of course.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Similarly to you, I'd prefer to keep playing to my strengths, but if you want me to expand my view I can try.

Do your thing. If I had to grade your content from the moment you replaced reywaS for how well it conveys a townie mindset given the circumstances, I'd give you an A.

I think I unnerve most players at least a little bit. It's the inherent product of my conscious choice and concerted effort to play as vocally, transparently, and cooperatively as I can. This is me playing to my strengths. That inevitably results in players worrying that I am trying to control the thread or hide in plain sight (and to be fair, I have done those things before as mafia). This is something I deal with in nearly every game I play.

The perspective you have of me is understandable, and the strategic concepts you're espousing are agreeable. We're going to get along well in Mafia games long-term I think (apart from just this one).

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I swear Triple J has too much time on his hands.
I mean that as a compliment, of course.

Definitely.

I've never won a game on this site (my faction has never won a game on this site) and I'm getting a bit sick of that. I'm playing hard.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Actually, Triple J, wasn't it you who recommended I join Mafia on RYM?

It was indeed. Glad to have you.

[TheFloyd73]

Actually, Triple J, wasn't it you who recommended I join Mafia on RYM?

It was indeed. Glad to have you.

What led you to trying to enlist me specifically?

[Marmot]

Doc, when I get home I'll give you some names.

If Mac is mafia:

Spoiler: show

Diiny, bcornett24, espers, Elohcin, Roxy, fingersplints/llama

If bcornett24 is mafia:

Spoiler: show

Diiny, espers, Epignosis, motel room, Metalmarsh89, TheFloyd73

How many members of mafia do you think there are?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

How many members of mafia do you think there are?

Apparently 8. Oops.

[Tangrowth]

Night 4 post coming shortly.

[Marmot]

Nonetheless, there will be no punishments doled out even for people spamming the thread with off-topic.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Actually, Triple J, wasn't it you who recommended I join Mafia on RYM?

It was indeed. Glad to have you.

What led you to trying to enlist me specifically?

You seem like a level fellow and I thought you might like to give it a try. We're always happy to have new people take part.

[Marmot]

How many members of mafia do you think there are?

Apparently 8. Oops.

If I come up with a hypothetical team of 17 players, then I'll probably nail at least one or two mafia.

[Sloonei]

Night 4: Post, Don't Lurk

Feeling satisfied that the rest of the players had gone thoroughly balls to the wall, rundontwalk turned contentedly away from the action and walked ran off into oblivion.

rundontwalk has been modkilled for inactivity. He was Road to Nowhere.

To be continued...

[Tangrowth]

Night 4: The Overload

Night 4 has ended.

Golden has been killed by Psycho Killer.
????? has survived a kill attempt by Psycho Killer.

It is now Day 5. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.

[Epignosis]

Not surprised with any of that.

[Marmot]

Modkill =/= Nightkill, correct?