Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME

FINAL FOOT

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Neon
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Porscha
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

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Bye bye manny
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

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Manny wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:58 pm
Porscha wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:58 pm S'pose I should vote for schia here eh
if nanook = NPC
schia = player
and schia as player is always = scum
Is she tho
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Unless idk jack? is a player then schia might be an npc.
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

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DeeZees wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:59 pm Bye bye manny
its been real sorry for not finding you if you town dz
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

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don’t think porscha is a wolf still

i wouldn’t kill michelle, wilgy or iawy for a while

dunno beyond that
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

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I'm a bit nervous just cuz of my previous experience but I have no brain cells atm and lumi said is mech correct to vote her so I have
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

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grim reaper here
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

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gonna lol if schia flips town
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

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MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:00 pm grim reaper here
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

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Hally wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:00 pm gonna lol if schia flips town
would be funny now i want it to happen glgl
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Night 7 Ends 10am Dec 24 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

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Peasants clamour as the giant foot reappears this time ten times the size.

Goodbye Schia. You were a valiant
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All NPCs have been removed from the game.

Final playerlist.

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Re: Secret Playerlist - Night 7 Ends 10am Dec 24 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

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The great foot cast a shadow across the land in the shape of a foot. It's glistening red nail polish reflecting the light of the sun blinded the entire population.

Lately, the foot had taken a liking to kicking instead of squashing. Innocent little @Michelle was sitting on a picnic rug in a meadow just minding her own business with like a puppy and shit there. This fucking giant foot I swear to god kicked her so hard that she disappeared into the stratosphere like Team Rocket.

Michelle has been punted into the sun. She was obviously a villager.

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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day Ends 10am Dec 26 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

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The Foot has bestowed upon you all a poll. Enjoy.
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day Ends 10am Dec 26 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

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was a pleasure playing with you again michelle

[VOTE: ricochet] aubergine
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day Ends 10am Dec 26 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

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@DeeZees
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@ilario
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@Neon
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@Ricochet

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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day Ends 10am Dec 26 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

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Hally why rico

I have placed vote on wilgy as of this post btw
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day Ends 10am Dec 26 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

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Schia was obvious mafia for so long and the fact that it took two days for anybody to even consider voting there despite multiple people acknowledging it is maddening, but they're gone now and today isn't a waste of a day

anyways

[VOTE: Ricochet] aubergine @Ricochet You've got some major explaining to do mister RP'ing sir

I'm taking Ilario's uncc'ed claim as a lockclear in this worldstate, so @ilario get ready for the responsibility to lead town that just fell on your shoulders
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day Ends 10am Dec 26 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

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Porscha wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:52 pm Hally why rico

I have placed vote on wilgy as of this post btw
Rico falls under the same exact criticisms that Schia did, but the difference is basically everybody assumed Rico was an NPC. I am genuinely shocked that Rico is still here, which makes Rico spending the last 7 day phases RP'ing to their 5-post minimum while doing barely anything look super bad since everybody else who was minposting either fell off entirely and were flipped as NPCs, stepped it up and have since died flipping town, or were Schia and kept it up and was mafia

Rico went the Schia route, so the question is whether Rico shares the Schia rand or not
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day Ends 10am Dec 26 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

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What are your individual, specific reasons for sussing Wilgy enough to not-vote vote him? I am most-curious about what your read there is given that Wilgy started picking up heat at EoD
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day Ends 10am Dec 26 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

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@Hally Where's your head at?
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day Ends 10am Dec 26 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

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Inawordyes wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:22 pm Schia was obvious mafia for so long and the fact that it took two days for anybody to even consider voting there despite multiple people acknowledging it is maddening, but they're gone now and today isn't a waste of a day
genuine question: why is it maddening?

would anything be different about the game if we had lunched schia days ago compared to last day or even today?

schia left no spew, nobody can really be cleared for pushing them, they didn’t vote or attempt to influence the game in any way, and the wolves knew they would be outed for days

for all intents and purposes schia did not exist in this game, they were a free pelt we could get any time we felt like wasting a day on it

it wouldn’t have made any difference whether we killed them D1 or waited until F3 :shrug:
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day Ends 10am Dec 26 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

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idk why people sign up for games to do what schia and rico have done

if you’re busy and can only do a little bit that’s fine but to not even attempt to do anything is unfair to the players in the game who signed up to play it

doesn’t matter if you’re a villager or a wolf, don’t waste people’s time like this
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day Ends 10am Dec 26 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

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Inawordyes wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:29 pm @Hally Where's your head at?
the same place it was at last day pretty much

i’m just gonna kill rico and see what he flips then hope i die so i don’t have to care what happens next
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day Ends 10am Dec 26 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

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Porscha wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:52 pm Hally why rico

I have placed vote on wilgy as of this post btw
wdym, why rico?

you’re asking me why i’m voting the guy that has been skating by larping as an NPC making five posts a day the entire game?

isn’t it obvious lol
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day Ends 10am Dec 26 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

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how can anyone come into this day voting wilgy and asking why people want to kill rico

you have the game turned upside down lol
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

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to expand on why i said porscha wasn’t a wolf at the deadline, i don’t think a wolf makes these posts at EoD:
Porscha wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:47 pm So like I'm a page behind I'll keep reading but in case I dont have time, I like... I have a couple thotties

I fear schia is in fact not a wolf as she has been voted off for similar posting in another game, but according to lumi if schia is NPC it doesnt hurt to vote anyway. So I'm willing...

But thought number 2 is uh... why is everybody TR wilgy? Lol
Porscha wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:50 pm Like it's possible he is town and I would need to ISO on comp later but it seems there has been literally no conceptions he may not be town but from the posts I've seen from him... idk.... he could be wolfing lol

I responded to one of wilgy posts where he was talking with falcon earlier in the game and told wilgy "sorry for the rand" but he didnt respond to it I dont think lol but I was kind of not entirely joking when I said it lmfaoo
Porscha wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:51 pm If we are looking at the world with pre-npc-extinction world event lenses then like
We've discussed who possible wolves could be especially if we profile schia as wolf. Not all the wolves can be low posters right? Someone(s) are skating by and I think wilgy is good enough to fool most people up until now tbh
Porscha wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:52 pm Idk. Just saying. Especially in case I get NK'd for some unseeable reason
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Manny wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:53 pm
Porscha wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:52 pm Also why was like all of @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME day 1 iso about Michelle being wolf? Lol
if you take his words as truth he is an npc just trying to solve a bit per day and ig his bit of solving d1 was mich = wolf
Ye but I wanted to know why, tho it appears it is too late to find out for our dear NPC nook

I've played a fair amount of games with Michelle and never seen her wolf to my knowledge and so many ppl have claimed shes relatively polarized but I've been able to *see* it so every game I play with michelle everybody just says they have good reads on her, I sheep them, she never flips w, I never LEARN ANYTHING AND NOW I HAVE PARANOIA sorry michelle that's why I voted you earlier idk what I'm doing
Porscha wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:58 pm S'pose I should vote for schia here eh
Porscha wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:00 pm I'm a bit nervous just cuz of my previous experience but I have no brain cells atm and lumi said is mech correct to vote her so I have
especially combined with her entrance today, this stuff is just too upside down to come from a wolf imo
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by upside down i mean that i don’t think it would occur to a wolf with TMI to post those things unless they’re pretty crafty and porscha isn’t a crafty wolf afaik
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day Ends 10am Dec 26 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

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to me it reads as genuine paranoia/panic from someone who doesn’t have the answers and has no idea who the wolves are

that’s the only somewhat new thought i have


oh, and i guess if anyone looks good from schia flipping it’s iawy but i’m hesitant to give anyone any cred for pushing schia because again, wolves knew they would always be outed eventually so hard bussing is a fine play


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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day Ends 10am Dec 26 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

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Sure, hally can the my new Michelle today
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day Ends 10am Dec 26 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day Ends 10am Dec 26 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

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I offer you an accord.

=== Wagons with wolves ===
Day 1

Golden [NPC]: Ender [NPC], Dizzy [TOWN], Creature [NPC], Rondo [NPC], DeeZees, lucy [NPC], Vivax [WOLF], Wilgy, G-Man [NPC]

Jack [NPC]: Schiavetto [WOLF]

Day 2
Santygrass [TOWN}: Guillotine [NPC], Vivax [WOLF], pyxxy [NPC], Ender [NPC], DeeZees, Creature [NPC]

Schiavetto no vote

Day 3
DrWilgy: Nutella [TOWN], Ender [NPC], Vivax [WOLF], Jack [NPC], ilario, SilverKeith [NPC]

Schiavetto no vote

Day 4
lilypetal [TOWN]: santy [TOWN], Nutella [TOWN], Michelle [TOWN], DeeZees, Hally

ender [TOWN}, Neon, ilario, Vivax [WOLF]

Schiavetto no vote

Day 5
Vivax [WOLF]: santy [TOWN], DrWilgy, Seanzie [TOWN], Michelle [TOWN], Lumi [NPC]
Jack [NPC]: pyxxy [NPC], Nutella [TOWN], DeeZees, Vivax [WOLF]

Schiavetto nothing

Day 6

Schiavetto nothing

Day 7
Schiavetto: Lumi [NPC], DeeZees, DrWilgy, Hally, Inawordyes

(Michelle and ilario on Neon)
(Neon on Porscha)
(Porscha on Michelle)

=== Schiavetto interactions ===
- sabi [NPC]: Walrus fluff
- Dizzy [Town]: Profile fluff
- Opinion on Chelsie wagon [NPC], based on meta; casual follow-up to Nutella [TOWN]
- Something about Aro [NPC]
- sheeps Dizzy [TOWN] with Jack vote [NPC]
- banter answer to tutuu ping [NPC]
- short talk to a Rondo poke [NPC]
- fluff answer to Ranmilia poke [NPC]

[Haikus / Eliade’s / Emma Roberts / songs Day 4 onwards]

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DeeZees - Vivax
- nothing on Vivax until Day 3
- argues Golden wagon had wolves (true on Vivax)
- builds a vote from above
o Vivax irked right away, cooks a bizarre OMGUS spin, DeeZees shrugs it with a lmao
- strengthens Vivax push based on overblown reaction
- [switches to Ender?!]
o Switches Golden wagon angle towards Ender being wolf
- mentions early push for Vivax
- nothing else for two (?) more Days
- [Day 6?]
- reaffirms that his early Vivax push makes him town clear

Vivax – DeeZees
- Day 2 vote, confusing reasoning or fluff
- Day 3 irk backlash to DeeZees searching Golden wagon for wolves
- Day 5 vote on DeeZees
- Sheeps DeeZee vote on Jack

DeeZees – Schiavetto
- sheeps Lumi on Schiavetto chop case
- rather confusing second stance on Schiavetto chop (8309)

First impression was to clear him based on early, straight Vivax hunt and that bizarre acid rebuttal received from Vivax (which warranted little aggro-ing around that timing, if a bus strategy), mbut it’s not solid stuff once he stepped off and his later claims that all of that validates him as town is weaksauce. Didn’t catch any evidence of him returning to lynch Vivax on the Day he was slain – in fact, landed on the counterwagon.

With Schiavetto, I’m leaning on the belief that teammates would have at least tried to steer the lynch away in order to win an extra Day (potentially even a townlynch), still DeeZees’s vote was fourth in order, which puts to no rest the notion that he might/could have jumped on the wave to dispose of an unsolvable, un-savable teammate.

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DrWilgy – Vivax

- Day 3 light vote talk (initiated by Vivax)
- Day 4 names Vivax on list of players hard to grasp
o Further talk on falcon
- Casts Vivax in NPC tier
o Insists Vivax lynch would hit a simple, contrarian NPC
o Doesn’t know what to make of DeeZees and Vivax “tension”
- Day 5 still ponders Vivax among NPCs and how to deal with them
- votes Vivax, despite not knowing “how to feel on that”
o finds Vivax best of three lead wagons
o in reply to Nutella, takes stance that game is still in crapshoot mode, including taking the change on Vivax lynch
- somehow arrives at conclusion that Vivax has to be wolf, if not NPC
- returns to vote Vivax when Santy signals being lone wagoner
[slightly not sure, but I think from this point on, every Vivax mention is post-lynch, as Wilgy goes into ISO’ing for W/W interactions]

Vivax – Wilgy

- D3 reads Wilgy off-meta for no usual antics
- when irked by DeeZees, proposes Wilgy / Ran wagon
- would have followed Nutella on a Wilgy vote?
- Wilgy “sneakiest vibes”
- D4 pings Wilgy with a request for gamestate read

DrWilgy – Schiavetto

- D4(?) early resolve to yeet Schia if they hold on to the 5-post effort
- D5 reads Schia wolf
- D5 through D7 many instances of sticking to the same vibe that Schia / other minposters are wolf

I’m reading the Vivax interaction as coming from a solo mindset. Furthermore, little reason to reignite Vivax wagon, if it went down to one voter at a certain point. Vivax trying to deflect a D3 wagon onto Wilgy/Ran alternative also doesn’t seem like a sound choice, if Wilgy would be co-wolf.

Schiavetto push could have been prepped way in advance, if disgruntled with having such a liable teammate, but gonna roll with simple scenario and find that less likely.

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Ilario – Vivax

- D5(?) wants to sheep a player who helped lynch Vivax
- D7 read on DeeZees potentially bussing Vivax

Vivax – ilario

- D3 answers Santy ask for read on ilario, deems votable
o Reiterates later that either Ilario or Rico vote is fine
- D5 reads Santy vote on ilario “bad”

Ilario – Schiavetto

- D5(?) simple comment on Schiavetto’s funny post antics, leans on NPC?

+ D6 claim of being delete

Near lack of interaction on ilario’s part is not ideal, but can deem it a potential lack of engagement or a blindspot. The D5 sheep reaction is stinky, but probably not the worst ping overall to warrant consideration. From a personal perspective, if Vivax was so intent to lead the field into wasting a bullet on me, I can see the same mindset towards ilario, hence not a W/W positioning.

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Hally – Vivax

- D3 some kind of conversation about other players? (rabbit / avi?)
- Gets asked by Vivax why vote on Lily, followed by countering with a question on why he asked they asked that
- D4(?) Asks Vivax, among others, to get off Ender wagon
- D4 states that Vivax’s takes are far off theirs
- D5 shook at Vivax and Jack wagon happening
- D6 post-lynch stance “sheep whoever lynched Vivax”
o explains their Vivax stances wrt Wilgy’s ISO their interactions: most significantly, picked up on Vivax asking them to reason their votes, but without caring for answers + they partly would have wanted to vote Vivax D5 (got tunnel vision on neon instead?)
- D6 unsure how D5 EoD played out: reads into DeeZees – Vivax D3 interaction
o Focuses on falcon?
o Furthermore, reads Vivax wagon as villagery, hence no / low buss
o Later talks about Vivax – Neon interaction seems W/W

Vivax – Hally

- D2 talk with Hally about rising
- Agrees with Guillotine about a Hally post on Ender
- D3 banter talk wrt some lolpost from Hally
o Reads Hally NPC
- Talk about Lily vote
o Banter rebuttal about “ulterior motives” for asking Hally insight

Hally – Schiavetto

- D5 debates whether to lynch Schiavetto or let a purge clear things up
o Further reads them wolf if not NPC
o Decides on preferring to wait for purge clarity
- D6 debates with IAWY on Schiavetto being a confirmed player
- Stated they’re not voting Schiavetto regardless, reads them likely NPC
- Last vote on Schiavetto, once it seems to “autopilot” towards the lynch
- Seems to soften take on Schiavetto being wolf
o Still goes back and forth on lynching or letting the purge resolve
o Extensive debate on Schia lynch gamble; says Schiavetto flip would give no info
o [more]
- Mentions being amused if Schia will flip wolf

By far the most considerable amount of takes on Schiavetto, contrasted by highly low / light / lax takes on Vivax through and through. Fighting this active for a Day postponement on Schiavetto’s lynch would be a big and not-fully-rewarding move, but it’s also not out of the question as long as the NPC/D7 purge factor can be weaved into crafting a reasoning. Vivax ISO could also fit into a “wolf minding their own business” mindset. I cannot in earn say I am convinced by either their “wish to have wagoned Vivax after all” stance, nor their Schiavetto lynch (initial) opposition being on pure mechanical principle.

Vivax also feathery on ever bringing up / interacting heavily with Hally.

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IAWY – Vivax

- D3 reads into group of common wagoners, including Vivax, finds “clear pattern of buddying up”
o Prods Vivax for reads
- Reads Vivax’s take on them as “disingenuous” spotlight shine
- D5 asks Vivax why Porscha is a townlock
- Develops read into wolf among Jack/Vivax/Falcon
- Seems focused on Jack, but also notes that their Vivax vote (creating a tie) drew a lot of agitation
- D6 rebuttal towards Seanzie in regards to their Vivax vote
o [extensive stuff, which I’ll place on a backlog if I ever need to reconsider / read thoroughly. Not inclined / no time rn]

IAWY – Schiavetto

- D5 reads that Schiavetto’s 5-post antic is an out
o Further develop read into Schiavetto being a wolf aware of not making moves
- heavier push for Schiavetto wagon to remain in contention
- D6 in talks with Seanzie, reads Schiavetto lockwolf, active plead to solve with lynch
- [more wordy stuff etc.]

I admit I bailed on a thorough ISO once the CTRL+F gave me two- or even three-digit results, but I’m inclined to find two unlikely W/W interactions in: a) needing to call out / build a sus on Vivax thumbs upping his involvement/game; b) adding to the Vivax bonfire by tying it with a non-wolf player (Jack) they already had shade or potential vote-fuel on.

Schiavetto stance simply a good read or a very hard and textbooky bus (to which, again, I’d bank on wolves not giving up completely on the opportunity to affect town numbers above all, in which case a wolfmate giving so much written, hard to retract stance to bus, is less ideal positioning).

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Neon – Vivax

- D3 talks on a fake claim
- D6 retroactive look at Hally – Vivax, stating it would be hilarious for it to be W/W

Vivax – Neon

- D3 reads Neon likely played, tentative town
- Focuses extensively on a Neon-Ender claimgame
o Short openness to yeet Neon, but not really
o Leans on Neon being NPC
- D4 In a reply to Jack, reads Neon openwolfing and yeetable tho not on that Day

Neon – Schia

- D7(?) votes Schiavetto at a certain point (vote not registered in VC?), in reply to a IAWY – Jack conversation

Complete lack of interactions makes this analysis angle non-viable. Slight inclination to treat Vivax’s takes on Neon as weak interest to make a read on someone from the field, not to cast a profile on a wolfmate – hence not W/W indicative. Vivax also had a short opening to vote Neon, if he would have had interest to try and flip a potential town role power, but resorted D3 to hounding minposters instead (me / ilario).

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Porscha – Vivax

- D3 talk about why Marmot exited the game
- asks cfd(?) why (they voted?) vivax
- D4 fluff chat with Vivax
- Talk with Neon about Vivax’s profile of them as role power
- D6 refuses to ISO Vivax

Vivax – Porscha

- D3 reads possible NPC, town if otherwise
- D4 wants Porscha to offer reads on yeet options (this being based off Santy’s list)

Porscha – Schiavetto

- D7(?) willing to vote off Schiavetto, despite same result not having paid off in a different game; see Wilgy as wolf skater, instead
- Last vote on Schiavetto, at a point of just adding to the lynch

Sigh, another void of interactions. Bit weird that post-lynch disengagement towards Vivax flip extended to refusing to analyze his posts. Invoked meta reservations on Schia flipping wolf, nothing to read or clear off the final vote, when it was all concluded.

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One can perhaps profile a wolf out of these interactions, but likely not both, given that a third of the field has not properly interacted or taken strong stances of either wolf.

It would Vivax was overall not inclined to cast shade on Schiavetto; if that sentiment extended to the rest of the team, I think that would speak well of Wilgy (built a stinkeye on him, plus almost voted him dead), ilario (had some incentive to wagon him based on air) and maybe Neon (focused a lot on the roleclaim game, to the point of wanting to flip it). Alternatively, if that sentiment was shared by teammates, then I don’t see a world in which IAWY shaded Vivax that much and crafted the entire textbook of bringing down Schiavetto.
The above angle would almost clear DeeZees as well, if not for that interaction having been so spontaneous and bizzare, to the point of seeming forced – and DeeZees also doing a poor job in keeping heat and intent on the Vivax, even counter-wagoning it on the Day it mattered.

Three players objected on principle to the Schia lynch, a strategy of no long-term rewards in retrospect, hence one I cannot fathom both remaining wolfmates having decided to work on. Therefore this group has maybe one wolf or maybe is town entirely. As mentioned, either tone or tinfoil makes me see Hally worst, with perhaps Porscha second by appealing to outside meta and acting (or choosing to feign) indecisive.

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Hally wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:28 pm was a pleasure playing with you again michelle

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Inawordyes wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:22 pm Schia was obvious mafia for so long and the fact that it took two days for anybody to even consider voting there despite multiple people acknowledging it is maddening, but they're gone now and today isn't a waste of a day

anyways

[VOTE: Ricochet] aubergine @Ricochet You've got some major explaining to do mister RP'ing sir

I'm taking Ilario's uncc'ed claim as a lockclear in this worldstate, so @ilario get ready for the responsibility to lead town that just fell on your shoulders
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Hally wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:37 pm
Inawordyes wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:22 pm Schia was obvious mafia for so long and the fact that it took two days for anybody to even consider voting there despite multiple people acknowledging it is maddening, but they're gone now and today isn't a waste of a day
genuine question: why is it maddening?

would anything be different about the game if we had lunched schia days ago compared to last day or even today?

schia left no spew, nobody can really be cleared for pushing them, they didn’t vote or attempt to influence the game in any way, and the wolves knew they would be outed for days

for all intents and purposes schia did not exist in this game, they were a free pelt we could get any time we felt like wasting a day on it

it wouldn’t have made any difference whether we killed them D1 or waited until F3 :shrug:
it's maddening for me because I saw it plain as day forever ago and nobody would do anything about it and kept making excuses to push elsewhere. And also slightly compounding that madness is that I finally gave up on the idea of tunneling into a Schia chop mid-day yesterday - and the moment I did, everybody decided that was when they'd have the epiphany that they'd need to vote Schia out and jumped on the wagon - so there's a bit of residual salt that I'm grumpy about

Having the mindset that Schia was an easy vote that could be taken out any time is exactly how mafia keeps mischops alive to endgame. If someone is so obvious, you take them out now so that if they aren't mafia, you don't take them out as the easy vote in LYLO and lose the game. So it would've made a massive difference, and consider if we had left Schia alive and now had to deal with Schia and Rico in the same exact thread boat today? Now we only have to deal with one, and we got a mafia out of the game too

That's my thoughts on it, Schia is dead and that = good, so the game continues on
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Hally wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:45 pm
Inawordyes wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:29 pm @Hally Where's your head at?
the same place it was at last day pretty much

i’m just gonna kill rico and see what he flips then hope i die so i don’t have to care what happens next
A+ plan, extra points for creativity and effort
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Rico a question, why did you wait until now to start playing? I tried to interact with you yesterday on your level by RP'ing even with my responses, and you ignored it. I did not expect you to be here and now you're coming in hot sans gimmick, and I have to question what made you wait so long?
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Inawordyes wrote: Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:06 am
Hally wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:37 pm
Inawordyes wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:22 pm Schia was obvious mafia for so long and the fact that it took two days for anybody to even consider voting there despite multiple people acknowledging it is maddening, but they're gone now and today isn't a waste of a day
genuine question: why is it maddening?

would anything be different about the game if we had lunched schia days ago compared to last day or even today?

schia left no spew, nobody can really be cleared for pushing them, they didn’t vote or attempt to influence the game in any way, and the wolves knew they would be outed for days

for all intents and purposes schia did not exist in this game, they were a free pelt we could get any time we felt like wasting a day on it

it wouldn’t have made any difference whether we killed them D1 or waited until F3 :shrug:
it's maddening for me because I saw it plain as day forever ago and nobody would do anything about it and kept making excuses to push elsewhere. And also slightly compounding that madness is that I finally gave up on the idea of tunneling into a Schia chop mid-day yesterday - and the moment I did, everybody decided that was when they'd have the epiphany that they'd need to vote Schia out and jumped on the wagon - so there's a bit of residual salt that I'm grumpy about

Having the mindset that Schia was an easy vote that could be taken out any time is exactly how mafia keeps mischops alive to endgame. If someone is so obvious, you take them out now so that if they aren't mafia, you don't take them out as the easy vote in LYLO and lose the game. So it would've made a massive difference, and consider if we had left Schia alive and now had to deal with Schia and Rico in the same exact thread boat today? Now we only have to deal with one, and we got a mafia out of the game too

That's my thoughts on it, Schia is dead and that = good, so the game continues on
i mean, schia was never gonna be a lylo mislunch, they were always either an NPC or a wolf and everybody knew it

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Neon wrote: Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:11 am [VOTE: Ricochet] aubergine
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Inawordyes wrote: Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:09 am Rico a question, why did you wait until now to start playing? I tried to interact with you yesterday on your level by RP'ing even with my responses, and you ignored it. I did not expect you to be here and now you're coming in hot sans gimmick, and I have to question what made you wait so long?
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Hally wrote: Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:01 am to expand on why i said porscha wasn’t a wolf at the deadline, i don’t think a wolf makes these posts at EoD:
Porscha wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:47 pm So like I'm a page behind I'll keep reading but in case I dont have time, I like... I have a couple thotties

I fear schia is in fact not a wolf as she has been voted off for similar posting in another game, but according to lumi if schia is NPC it doesnt hurt to vote anyway. So I'm willing...

But thought number 2 is uh... why is everybody TR wilgy? Lol
Porscha wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:50 pm Like it's possible he is town and I would need to ISO on comp later but it seems there has been literally no conceptions he may not be town but from the posts I've seen from him... idk.... he could be wolfing lol

I responded to one of wilgy posts where he was talking with falcon earlier in the game and told wilgy "sorry for the rand" but he didnt respond to it I dont think lol but I was kind of not entirely joking when I said it lmfaoo
Porscha wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:51 pm If we are looking at the world with pre-npc-extinction world event lenses then like
We've discussed who possible wolves could be especially if we profile schia as wolf. Not all the wolves can be low posters right? Someone(s) are skating by and I think wilgy is good enough to fool most people up until now tbh
Porscha wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:52 pm Idk. Just saying. Especially in case I get NK'd for some unseeable reason
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Porscha wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:52 pm Also why was like all of @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME day 1 iso about Michelle being wolf? Lol
if you take his words as truth he is an npc just trying to solve a bit per day and ig his bit of solving d1 was mich = wolf
Ye but I wanted to know why, tho it appears it is too late to find out for our dear NPC nook

I've played a fair amount of games with Michelle and never seen her wolf to my knowledge and so many ppl have claimed shes relatively polarized but I've been able to *see* it so every game I play with michelle everybody just says they have good reads on her, I sheep them, she never flips w, I never LEARN ANYTHING AND NOW I HAVE PARANOIA sorry michelle that's why I voted you earlier idk what I'm doing
Porscha wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:58 pm S'pose I should vote for schia here eh
Porscha wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:00 pm I'm a bit nervous just cuz of my previous experience but I have no brain cells atm and lumi said is mech correct to vote her so I have
especially combined with her entrance today, this stuff is just too upside down to come from a wolf imo
good enough for me, i remember finding her and michelle towny d1 anyways so ig my gut on them was right
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lol according to that rico wall i voted both wolves, haha nice. sheeping is an underrated strat tbh
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Hally wrote: Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:03 am nobody should be town reading that wall
why?
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ilario wrote: Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:13 am
Hally wrote: Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:03 am nobody should be town reading that wall
why?
why would you?

it’s a ton of information instead of analysis and the analysis that’s there is a lot of rehashing of what other’s have already said. there’s nothing that’s really interesting or difficult for a wolf to post. generally, talking about interactions and spew is the easiest thing for a wolf to do because they can just say things that are true most of the time.

and more obviously, one wall of solving the entire game as soon as his NPC cover was blown and he can’t skate by anymore is not villagery
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oh yeah i see what u mean
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