Cartomancy [Game Over]

[Baudib1]

God damn it I made a terrible mistake. Fingersplints was such a bad chop day 1 lol. I foolishly put my read over the health of the game.

They were a perfectly cromulent chop.

[MacDougall]

Does anyone have the final poll?

[Bereft]

Aighhhghvhbbnnnmmmmhfrstfygghuuef

Sorry I lost my composure.

I caught up to D2. Mac claims they dont like the way I justified my fingersplints vote. That is all.

[Alison]

Bet

I want to kill Alison and then the people pushing her regardless of her flip

So im set on Alison > Jack > Sig atm

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

How about sheeping my legacy if you're going to do that

Sure what is it

Roxy > Neon > Creature in that order, probably Sig after (not as high confidence on him but he's an honorary wolf if town so who cares).

I think Jack less likely to be wolf than all these, but you are welcome to policy him for inting if he keeps making dramatically bad reads.

[MacDougall]

God damn it I made a terrible mistake. Fingersplints was such a bad chop day 1 lol. I foolishly put my read over the health of the game.

They were a perfectly cromulent chop.

In the sense of likelihood to flip mafia sure but not in the sense of making day 1 good for retrospective analysis.

[tutuu]

Bet

I want to kill Alison and then the people pushing her regardless of her flip

So im set on Alison > Jack > Sig atm

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

If alison is mafia im adding neon to this

If shes town neon is still cool

Seanzie too despite my townread on him and neon

If alison is mafia this will be rly spicy and lots of fun to solve

If shes town it will be a standard game, so im hoping mafia for more fun lol

[Creature]

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This was the last VC before EOD ftr

[Dennis]

What caused the sudden change from "Don't kill Alison this is just how she plays" to "Let's get Alison's head. NOW."

There is a concept in mafia known as "resolving the counterwagon". The idea is that by flipping the top two wagons D1, if one is town and the other is mafia, we can out the whole mafia team by analyzing who was on which wagon. The weakness of this strategy is if both players flip town, which gives us two fruitless days and nothing to show for it. In this case, however, if I flip town I am guaranteed to out multiple mafia with me so it's a good trade.

I think the proposed strategy is logical.

If you're sure

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

[Alison]

What caused the sudden change from "Don't kill Alison this is just how she plays" to "Let's get Alison's head. NOW."

There is a concept in mafia known as "resolving the counterwagon". The idea is that by flipping the top two wagons D1, if one is town and the other is mafia, we can out the whole mafia team by analyzing who was on which wagon. The weakness of this strategy is if both players flip town, which gives us two fruitless days and nothing to show for it. In this case, however, if I flip town I am guaranteed to out multiple mafia with me so it's a good trade.

I think the proposed strategy is logical.

See what I mean? She's letting me kill her for free. I'm not even one of the people outed. It's beautiful.

I also said to kill you if you don't get a pelt at some point but I know people will not listen so whatever.

[MacDougall]

Bet

I want to kill Alison and then the people pushing her regardless of her flip

So im set on Alison > Jack > Sig atm

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

If alison is mafia im adding neon to this

If shes town neon is still cool

Seanzie too despite my townread on him and neon

If alison is mafia this will be rly spicy and lots of fun to solve

If shes town it will be a standard game, so im hoping mafia for more fun lol

Ya know whether she flips mafia or not, most of the same people are outed. Weird how logic works sometimes lol.

[tutuu]

Bet

I want to kill Alison and then the people pushing her regardless of her flip

So im set on Alison > Jack > Sig atm

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

How about sheeping my legacy if you're going to do that

Sure what is it

Roxy > Neon > Creature in that order, probably Sig after (not as high confidence on him but he's an honorary wolf if town so who cares).

I think Jack less likely to be wolf than all these, but you are welcome to policy him for inting if he keeps making dramatically bad reads.

Ok bookmarked, thanks

[Alison]

God damn it I made a terrible mistake. Fingersplints was such a bad chop day 1 lol. I foolishly put my read over the health of the game.

They were a perfectly cromulent chop.

In the sense of likelihood to flip mafia sure but not in the sense of making day 1 good for retrospective analysis.

If you had wagoned Roxy the game would already be over

[MacDougall]

What caused the sudden change from "Don't kill Alison this is just how she plays" to "Let's get Alison's head. NOW."

There is a concept in mafia known as "resolving the counterwagon". The idea is that by flipping the top two wagons D1, if one is town and the other is mafia, we can out the whole mafia team by analyzing who was on which wagon. The weakness of this strategy is if both players flip town, which gives us two fruitless days and nothing to show for it. In this case, however, if I flip town I am guaranteed to out multiple mafia with me so it's a good trade.

I think the proposed strategy is logical.

If you're sure

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

[Dennis]

Bet

I want to kill Alison and then the people pushing her regardless of her flip

So im set on Alison > Jack > Sig atm

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

If alison is mafia im adding neon to this

If shes town neon is still cool

Seanzie too despite my townread on him and neon

If alison is mafia this will be rly spicy and lots of fun to solve

If shes town it will be a standard game, so im hoping mafia for more fun lol

What's connecting Neon to Alison again I forgor

[MacDougall]

God damn it I made a terrible mistake. Fingersplints was such a bad chop day 1 lol. I foolishly put my read over the health of the game.

They were a perfectly cromulent chop.

In the sense of likelihood to flip mafia sure but not in the sense of making day 1 good for retrospective analysis.

If you had wagoned Roxy the game would already be over

Roxy pocketed me with the sick sig shade.

[Alison]

Bet

I want to kill Alison and then the people pushing her regardless of her flip

So im set on Alison > Jack > Sig atm

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

If alison is mafia im adding neon to this

If shes town neon is still cool

Seanzie too despite my townread on him and neon

If alison is mafia this will be rly spicy and lots of fun to solve

If shes town it will be a standard game, so im hoping mafia for more fun lol

What's connecting Neon to Alison again I forgor

Neon has done nothing but tunnel me for garbage reasons the whole game so if I flip town Neon should be hung from a hook.

[staypositivefriend]

Alison is doing a play by play exact replica of King of the Hill. I can't get over that lol its exactly the same.

Like

search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&t=24 ... &start=250

Exactly the same. Every single aspect of it.

I kinda town read the switch off on Kate but than I remembered that a very similar thing happened to the wolf team when I subbed out in KotH mafia for mental health reasons and they abandoned the Neon push because they thought my subbing out was town indicative because of the way it was done.

This is what I’ve been saying. It’s grossly blatant to the point when I’d actually agree with Tutuu on the bussing thing if I didn’t independently townread Sig and myself.

hate this post regardless of alison's alignment

[VOTE: jack] aubergine

[Creature]

Bet

I want to kill Alison and then the people pushing her regardless of her flip

So im set on Alison > Jack > Sig atm

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

How about sheeping my legacy if you're going to do that

Sure what is it

Roxy > Neon > Creature in that order, probably Sig after (not as high confidence on him but he's an honorary wolf if town so who cares).

I think Jack less likely to be wolf than all these, but you are welcome to policy him for inting if he keeps making dramatically bad reads.

[Baudib1]

God damn it I made a terrible mistake. Fingersplints was such a bad chop day 1 lol. I foolishly put my read over the health of the game.

They were a perfectly cromulent chop.

In the sense of likelihood to flip mafia sure but not in the sense of making day 1 good for retrospective analysis.

Yeah but there was no NK so the wolves didn’t profit from the day. It’s essentially the same game state.

Feel free to hop on the wagon with all the people you thought were sketchy I guess.

[MacDougall]

Bet

I want to kill Alison and then the people pushing her regardless of her flip

So im set on Alison > Jack > Sig atm

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

How about sheeping my legacy if you're going to do that

Sure what is it

Roxy > Neon > Creature in that order, probably Sig after (not as high confidence on him but he's an honorary wolf if town so who cares).

I think Jack less likely to be wolf than all these, but you are welcome to policy him for inting if he keeps making dramatically bad reads.

Jesus christ lol

[Baudib1]

Alison is doing a play by play exact replica of King of the Hill. I can't get over that lol its exactly the same.

Like

search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&t=24 ... &start=250

Exactly the same. Every single aspect of it.

I kinda town read the switch off on Kate but than I remembered that a very similar thing happened to the wolf team when I subbed out in KotH mafia for mental health reasons and they abandoned the Neon push because they thought my subbing out was town indicative because of the way it was done.

This is what I’ve been saying. It’s grossly blatant to the point when I’d actually agree with Tutuu on the bussing thing if I didn’t independently townread Sig and myself.

hate this post regardless of alison's alignment

[VOTE: jack] aubergine

Yes but the only reason you hate it is because you have a brain and Jack is a wolf, did you consider that??

[MacDougall]

God damn it I made a terrible mistake. Fingersplints was such a bad chop day 1 lol. I foolishly put my read over the health of the game.

They were a perfectly cromulent chop.

In the sense of likelihood to flip mafia sure but not in the sense of making day 1 good for retrospective analysis.

Yeah but there was no NK so the wolves didn’t profit from the day. It’s essentially the same game state.

Feel free to hop on the wagon with all the people you thought were sketchy I guess.

Tutuu was like my strongest townread butthead.

[Alison]

It is on this page that people are finding out the difference between playing mafia optimally and playing mafia passionately.

[Baudib1]

God damn it I made a terrible mistake. Fingersplints was such a bad chop day 1 lol. I foolishly put my read over the health of the game.

They were a perfectly cromulent chop.

In the sense of likelihood to flip mafia sure but not in the sense of making day 1 good for retrospective analysis.

Yeah but there was no NK so the wolves didn’t profit from the day. It’s essentially the same game state.

Feel free to hop on the wagon with all the people you thought were sketchy I guess.

Tutuu was like my strongest townread butthead.

Mine too. Tutuu and I are gay together now.

[MacDougall]

I am pretty sure Alison is mafia and is spewing Jack town so hard that it's designed to make us think she's reevaluated off of him as a partner. That is the level to which Mac thinks. It's tiring being me.

[tutuu]

Bet

I want to kill Alison and then the people pushing her regardless of her flip

So im set on Alison > Jack > Sig atm

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

If alison is mafia im adding neon to this

If shes town neon is still cool

Seanzie too despite my townread on him and neon

If alison is mafia this will be rly spicy and lots of fun to solve

If shes town it will be a standard game, so im hoping mafia for more fun lol

What's connecting Neon to Alison again I forgor

Neon has done nothing but tunnel me for garbage reasons the whole game so if I flip town Neon should be hung from a hook.

Yes, what she said

And if alison is mafia neon and co could have been so confident because the mafia decided that alison should be Jesus and sacrifice herself for the greater good of the wolf team. So we'll have to evaluate the more prominent people who interacted with alison

[Alison]

I am pretty sure Alison is mafia and is spewing Jack town so hard that it's designed to make us think she's reevaluated off of him as a partner. That is the level to which Mac thinks. It's tiring being me.

This is going to be a really funny hindsight post after I flip.

[MacDougall]

The correct thing for me to have done day 1 would have been to yolo vote out Alison tbh.

[Baudib1]

It is on this page that people are finding out the difference between playing mafia optimally and playing mafia passionately.

Listen if you yeet yourself out of this game and leave me here with 12 potatoes I will make angry copypastas about it postgame.

[Alison]

Alright I'm going for dinner now since I planned around this game being on pause for 24 hours. Also I probably shouldn't use up my posts so much, it's like an hour into the day and I'm already 1/5 to cap. So see you all.

[MacDougall]

Because we're partners and I'd have been allowed to endgame gifposting fart gifs obviously. Now I have to be held accountable when she flips mafia and deal with the tinfoil of the town such as *reads notes* Falcon and Seanzie.

[tutuu]

God damn it I made a terrible mistake. Fingersplints was such a bad chop day 1 lol. I foolishly put my read over the health of the game.

They were a perfectly cromulent chop.

In the sense of likelihood to flip mafia sure but not in the sense of making day 1 good for retrospective analysis.

Yeah but there was no NK so the wolves didn’t profit from the day. It’s essentially the same game state.

Feel free to hop on the wagon with all the people you thought were sketchy I guess.

Tutuu was like my strongest townread butthead.

Mine too. Tutuu and I are gay together now.

Gay poly communist commune

[Creature]

Alright who can be added to the town bin?

I have:

lucy
baudib1
tutuu

I am really vibing with spf

I guess I agree with spf that Dennis seems pretty genuine town

Would prob add falcon too for doing weird stuff last EOD but meh

[MacDougall]

Alright who can be added to the town bin?

I have:

lucy
baudib1
tutuu

I am really vibing with spf

I guess I agree with spf that Dennis seems pretty genuine town

Would prob add falcon too for doing weird stuff last EOD but meh

WHY DON'T YOU TOWNREAD ME ANYMORE YOU WERE TOWNREADING ME

[Baudib1]

I woke like to hear opinions on Neon because I am completely lost (wolf signal).

[Creature]

Oh I forgot Bereft existed

What do you all make out of them?

[Dennis]

Alright who can be added to the town bin?

I have:

lucy
baudib1
tutuu

I am really vibing with spf

I guess I agree with spf that Dennis seems pretty genuine town

Would prob add falcon too for doing weird stuff last EOD but meh

WHY DON'T YOU TOWNREAD ME ANYMORE YOU WERE TOWNREADING ME

The betrayal! Where's my popcorn

[Alison]

I woke like to hear opinions on Neon because I am completely lost (wolf signal).

Woke soft, Baudib is a member of the liberals

Also I think the most important thing for me to do the rest of this day phase is to sort out the masses of weirdo slots that have done nothing and placed votes essentially at random but they can't all be mafia so I have to try to town clear some of them somehow to really lock in a win. Examples include Sig, Bereft, Falcon, Wilgy.

[Creature]

Alright who can be added to the town bin?

I have:

lucy
baudib1
tutuu

I am really vibing with spf

I guess I agree with spf that Dennis seems pretty genuine town

Would prob add falcon too for doing weird stuff last EOD but meh

WHY DON'T YOU TOWNREAD ME ANYMORE YOU WERE TOWNREADING ME

I don't townread you I only wait to see whether you're hitting wolf or not to determine whether I let you live or not

[Dennis]

I woke like to hear opinions on Neon because I am completely lost (wolf signal).

She feels the same as the two other games I played with her when she was civ and she was kinda all over the place (sorry Neon). Though this game is wildly different and I think I've placed too much trust in her, I will revisit her.

[staypositivefriend]

@lucy -

i think it's possible that this might be the same situation as d3 in da bois invitational but this time alison is you

and im in the same position too, but lacking confidence to assert the position on the chance that im wrong

do you get what im saying?

[Baudib1]

I woke like to hear opinions on Neon because I am completely lost (wolf signal).

Woke soft, Baudib is a member of the liberals

Also I think the most important thing for me to do the rest of this day phase is to sort out the masses of weirdo slots that have done nothing and placed votes essentially at random but they can't all be mafia so I have to try to town clear some of them somehow to really lock in a win. Examples include Sig, Bereft, Falcon, Wilgy.

I like Bereft a decent amount due to him actively calling out legitimately scummy posts from people who weren’t drawing any attention that felt genuine. Sig/Falcon/Wilgy can go imo.

[Dennis]

Oh I forgot Bereft existed

What do you all make out of them?

I have 0 opinions, I can't remember even one post they have made

[MacDougall]

i really hope that a wolf did that.

I am not sure this is a real thought.

[Alison]

You guys should policy Mac if he doesn't produce pelts soon by the way since he's wrong on both fingersplints and me which is pretty out of form for him.

[MacDougall]

@lucy -

i think it's possible that this might be the same situation as d3 in da bois invitational but this time alison is you

and im in the same position too, but lacking confidence to assert the position on the chance that im wrong

do you get what im saying?

Knew it, ur fucken mafia.

[Alison]

@lucy -

i think it's possible that this might be the same situation as d3 in da bois invitational but this time alison is you

and im in the same position too, but lacking confidence to assert the position on the chance that im wrong

do you get what im saying?

What situation would that be?

[staypositivefriend]

i really hope that a wolf did that.

I am not sure this is a real thought.

no, it was a bad decision but i dont care to debate it

[Dennis]

Someone talk to me about Sig, if you want. I can't make you

[Bereft]

Aighhhghvhbbnnnmmmmhfrstfygghuuef

Sorry I lost my composure.

I caught up to D2. Mac claims they dont like the way I justified my fingersplints vote. That is all.

In hindisght I somehow managed to produce a more sus opener than my D1.