Monopoly Mafia [GAME OVER]

[S~V~S]

Metalmarsh, I see you in here. Do you think Sabie was killing people on Night Two, and boo was replacing her on Night 3?

[S~V~S]

LOL, I just checked, I came back Night two, it looks like? I thought it was three? I give up, ha ha. But it stands. I did not kill BR, and I did not kill Bass, or anyone else, but I am not waterworks. NOT.

[S~V~S]

In any case, I thought it was Night three. But THs case is convincing, perhaps, but not true.

And specific points I did not address that I need to? That I can actually address? I thought Bass & MM (and still kinda do, actually) were BTS partners based on their last minute bidding strategy last night. It seemed coordinated to me, so I did on the property that had a smaller current bid on it. I had nothing to do with Bass dying.

i wanted to lynch Bass today, actually. Or MM if people were still not feeling TH.

[S~V~S]

Black Rock tends to ally with me. I don't recall EVER killing her. I did not kill her here either.

[Turnip Head]

Metalmarsh, I see you in here. Do you think Sabie was killing people on Night Two, and boo was replacing her on Night 3?

BWT was still alive on night 2. He could have sent in the BR kill.

[S~V~S]

I'm moving my vote to SVS for now. Regardless, it makes sense for WW to kill someone who they know has a hotel.

Can you explain this to me? How would I know Bass had a hotel? Lots of things being said today bewilder me tbh.

Linki, the post says Water Works. But I was alive that night anyhow. So that proves nothing. I had my nights mixed up.

[S~V~S]

I really feel TH is scapegoating me. If you read the last hour or two of last night before the night post, it is very obvious I thought MM & Bass had BTS. Not much time for posting over a holiday weekend.

[Marmot]

Metalmarsh, I see you in here. Do you think Sabie was killing people on Night Two, and boo was replacing her on Night 3?

No, I checked back, sabie's last post was on Day 1, so I doubt she killed on Night 2. Since somebody had to have killed, I don't see how you could have replaced that role.

Linki: Well there you go. I would have missed that if you hadn't pointed it out.

Linki 2: Ah, that's another good point, BWT sending the kill in.

Linki 3: Because Bass landed on WW the other day, so WW learned his role. I waited until the very end of the day to explain my case that the pinks had bought hotels (and the TH was a pink), but WW must have already noticed, or just killed Bass because he had houses. TH has all but said that Bass was his partner. Oh, and Bass won Mediterranean

Linki 4: Dammit, let me post SVS.

[S~V~S]

No I am gonna go down kicking and screaming. And WW does know Bass role then, I don't, though. Do you? How do you know he had a hotel?

[S~V~S]

And yeah, that was why I bid on Baltic. Bass had a more recent bid for more $$ for Mediterranean. I totally for got about the $200 for voting for the lynched people. This was the first property I bid on since the first night.

[S~V~S]

If I was BWTs partner, why didn't I move my vote? This was TH's post when he voted for BWT 12 minutes before the lynch post:

Voting BWT but feeling kinda bummed about it since I thought his response was a decent one. I wish we could have had a chance to discuss the case a little more.

[S~V~S]

If anyone around here is WW, it's TH, not me. Sorry for papering the thread. I write, I post, I think "Doh! I should have said ________".

[S~V~S]

S~V~S did not post for all of Night 4.

Her last post before, was from Day 4:

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 360#p98891

And she did not post again until Day 5:

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 480#p99050

I had a busy weekend~ but kept up reading. I intend to reread both TH & Boogs a bit harder.

Can someone explain this to me? I don't understand what it is that this is demonstrating that I did? I would like to reply to this, but am not sure what I am replying to.

[juliets]

SVS, I see you would like to go for an MM lynch. What do you see there? I have this gut feeling about him but i don't know if it's because he's buying and selling things and must be rich or there's something else giving me a gut feel. I don't vote on gut feels very often, and I'm wondering if my feeling that TH is not bad is wrong headed. Anyway, what's your though on MM?

[Marmot]

No I gave the other house to my teammate so we could build hotels, but that teammate is dead now.

Unless TH is deceiving us again, Bass was his partner, SVS. TH bought the houses last night, and Bass is the only person who has died since then.


Linki: Sorry SVS, but there is no fucking way that TH is WW. Please look at my case from last night on why he is a pink and explain how that is false. Here is a link to it.

[Marmot]

S~V~S did not post for all of Night 4.

Her last post before, was from Day 4:

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 360#p98891

And she did not post again until Day 5:

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 480#p99050

I had a busy weekend~ but kept up reading. I intend to reread both TH & Boogs a bit harder.

Can someone explain this to me? I don't understand what it is that this is demonstrating that I did? I would like to reply to this, but am not sure what I am replying to.

WW missed a kill on Night 4. LC is showing that you did not post at all on Night 4.

[S~V~S]

Night 4 End/Day 5 Start: Nothing

No one has been killed.
Board Movements
Updated Board (courtesy of LC)

Powers:
1) Remove a die (Allows the player who uses it to remove a dice roll from anyone they want) - Starts at $50
2) Spy (See who a player of your choice targets at night) - Starts at $50
3) Swapper (Choose one player to swap places on the board with when played) - Starts at $50
4) Beatdown: This power allows anyone with BTSC to take over the night kill of one of the mafia teams. In order to do so, all members of the mafia team must be dead (at least 1 of them must have been killed with help from a member doing the beatdown), and then the night kill can be claimed. Can be played prior to the requirements occurring, but will only go through once they are met. Bids for this power can be done privately. - Starts at $200

Please remember all bids must increase by $10 from the previous bid to be accepted.

OH I get it now. But I was on the board, I posted in other places. I just did not post in here, my post count always goes down at night. I don't miss PMs. Like ever, anyone who has hosted me knows this.

Linki, I know, I read your case. Not sure I totally believe it, though. My gut says WW, but you could be right. All I know is that I am NOT WW myself.

And JC, I really thought MM & Bass had BTS, and he has been slippery and evasive much of the game.

[S~V~S]

I am NOT waterworks. Just because I did not post did not mean I was not here. And I did not kill Bass. Thats' all I can say. TH is talking his way out of another lynch. And if he is a red (why do you keep saying pink?) he has to go too. I have no hotels, amd won't be getting any. And I did not kill anyone.

[Marmot]

SVS, I see you would like to go for an MM lynch. What do you see there? I have this gut feeling about him but i don't know if it's because he's buying and selling things and must be rich or there's something else giving me a gut feel. I don't vote on gut feels very often, and I'm wondering if my feeling that TH is not bad is wrong headed. Anyway, what's your though on MM?

You are being extremely opportunistic.

Linki: look at the link I posted SVS.

[S~V~S]

EBWoP~ and you are not the only person, or even the first, to warn of this danger. Either we all agreed to not search (which would be like herding cats, getting all of us to agree on ANYTHING) or this would become an issue eventually. But we still have to get rid of the baddies even if teams ARE forming.

Sooo, since we pretty much agreed to search, and groups have formed and houses are cropping up, we should just let them have our money?

We are on a new day now, and we have multiple leads. Whichever direction people decide to go will be very telling.

Linki: So how do you justify your trust in him now, LC?

Noooo... I was replying to a specific post, the one I was EPWoP-ing to.

I give up this WAS the only post I made on board that day, lol. I checked and I sent PMs, but that is nothing I can produce and it is irrefutable. Like I said, I am not Waterworks, and this case is not true. Thats the best I can do.

[S~V~S]

Also, MM, totally circumstantial but true, if I had a kill last night (and I didn't cause I am not Waterworks) and I was stupid enough to kill one of the people I was bidding against, it would have been you. If Bass is still in BTS, whoever is his BTS partner, ask him if he really thinks I killed him like that.

[Marmot]

If Bass is still in BTS, whoever is his BTS partner, ask him if he really thinks I killed him like that.

I'm confused by this. I'm pretty sure TH is/was his BTSC partner, and he's the one who brought the case forward on you.

[S~V~S]

Oh I also just noticed that the utilites killed zeek, who I repeatedly said I thought was bad. That would have been almost as stupid of me as killing one of the people I was bidding against last night.

Linki, well, I still think YOU were his BTS partner. But in any case, it was kind of a joke. But OK. In any case opinions =/= facts. The only people who know actual facts are the Utilities, and I don;t think you are WW any more than I am WW.

[Marmot]

And you're not dead yet SVS. There's only 2 hours left 'til the deadline, and TH is still winning, although I'm pretty sure he still has extra votes he can throw in, along with his own vote.

Linki: Please tell me though. Do you agree with my case that TH is pink?

It's late enough in the day now, here's what I think about TH. He is not a RR.

There are now 6 hotels in the market, meaning someone bought 3 hotels. Since they are only available for immediate use, that means that they will be on the board this coming cycle.

The baby blues and greens are each four houses away from hotels, and TH bought only three houses, so he cannot be in those groups, because that would not be enough to buy hotels. Also, there are now 10 houses on the market for sale at $100 a piece, which means they came off the pink properties. There is also an additional house for sale for $1. The pinks only needed two houses to reach hotels, so I can guarantee that TH is a pink and he put that one back on the market himself.

TH is probably sacrificing himself so his teammates can get hotels. That's why he bought the houses.

[S~V~S]

I have to go eat (watch all the people not posting now but lurking suddenly start back up again). Based on who is leaning towards a vote for me (TH & LC) and who has not been voting, it is gonna be close. Good chance I am gonna get lynched. When I come back NOT Waterworks (and i will come back NOT Waterworks, since I am not Waterworks) you all might want to look at TH again.

I will be back in about an hour, though.

Linki, I might consider it if it even remotley looked like TH is sacrificing himself

But srsly, it is a good case. But I still think he could be WW.

[S~V~S]

*remotely

And considering that the Reds soaked me for one hotel stay, I would be just as happy to lynch TH if he turns up red as WW. But I can guarantee you that I won't turn up as Waterworks, or as someone with a Hotel.

Now really, dinner

[Turnip Head]

Also, MM, totally circumstantial but true, if I had a kill last night (and I didn't cause I am not Waterworks) and I was stupid enough to kill one of the people I was bidding against, it would have been you. If Bass is still in BTS, whoever is his BTS partner, ask him if he really thinks I killed him like that.

I'll field this one. If you're Water Works, then you knew Bass's role, and you might have suspected he owned a hotel.

Your post reacting to his death looked guilty to me. Like you felt you had to justify his death.

Oh I also just noticed that the utilites killed zeek, who I repeatedly said I thought was bad. That would have been almost as stupid of me as killing one of the people I was bidding against last night.

Again, if you're Water Works, you would have known Zeek's role. Maybe he had a hotel too.

But srsly, it is a good case. But I still think he could be WW.

You've been saying for Days that you think I'm LMS and that the case on me being WW didn't make sense. Why are you changing your tune now?

[juliets]

SVS, I see you would like to go for an MM lynch. What do you see there? I have this gut feeling about him but i don't know if it's because he's buying and selling things and must be rich or there's something else giving me a gut feel. I don't vote on gut feels very often, and I'm wondering if my feeling that TH is not bad is wrong headed. Anyway, what's your though on MM?

You are being extremely opportunistic.

Linki: look at the link I posted SVS.

No, I noticed something in what SVS said and asked her about it. I also gave her my opinion so she would know this was not one of these trap questions that people sometimes ask to get a response and then say "aha!". I can't help it that I have a bad gut feeling about you and am interested in anyone that might have a similar feeling. And that big eye thing is just an intimidation tactic that doesnt work with me.

[Turnip Head]

I'm not sure about MM, juliets. The odds say he's in an LMS group but I haven't done any major research into his posts or purchases. He's certainly one of the most active players in the game so I appreciate that much. I remember looking into some things very early on that made me think he wasn't a railroad, and I don't think he's Water Works. I feel much more confident that SVS is a baddie at the moment.

[S~V~S]

Well, you are wrong. And was i right or was i right; you posted as soon as I said i was gone

No matter what happens I will go down knowing you are wrong. SO wrong. While I was eating i discovered Godzilla Haiku, and now my life is zen enough that nothing can bother me.



So TH, what are you willing to bet that you are wrong?

Also, MM, totally circumstantial but true, if I had a kill last night (and I didn't cause I am not Waterworks) and I was stupid enough to kill one of the people I was bidding against, it would have been you. If Bass is still in BTS, whoever is his BTS partner, ask him if he really thinks I killed him like that.

I'll field this one. If you're Water Works, then you knew Bass's role, and you might have suspected he owned a hotel.

Your post reacting to his death looked guilty to me. Like you felt you had to justify his death.

Oh I also just noticed that the utilites killed zeek, who I repeatedly said I thought was bad. That would have been almost as stupid of me as killing one of the people I was bidding against last night.

Again, if you're Water Works, you would have known Zeek's role. Maybe he had a hotel too.

But srsly, it is a good case. But I still think he could be WW.

You've been saying for Days that you think I'm LMS and that the case on me being WW didn't make sense. Why are you changing your tune now?

I guess that everyone who has ever landed on a Utility owned a hotel, it's possible, I guess. But if that is the case, I know nothing about it. And the night no one died, I did send in a PM, I asked boo a question, and i checked TH for being on my group

I did think you were being railroaded for days, TH, but your reactio to Splints reversed me on that and I have suspected you for several days.

And JC, I never thought of it that way, but yeah, the is an intimidation tactic.

[Marmot]

SVS, I see you would like to go for an MM lynch. What do you see there? I have this gut feeling about him but i don't know if it's because he's buying and selling things and must be rich or there's something else giving me a gut feel. I don't vote on gut feels very often, and I'm wondering if my feeling that TH is not bad is wrong headed. Anyway, what's your though on MM?

You are being extremely opportunistic.

Linki: look at the link I posted SVS.

No, I noticed something in what SVS said and asked her about it. I also gave her my opinion so she would know this was not one of these trap questions that people sometimes ask to get a response and then say "aha!". I can't help it that I have a bad gut feeling about you and am interested in anyone that might have a similar feeling. And that big eye thing is just an intimidation tactic that doesnt work with me.

Your gut feeling was sudden. And SVS has not once mentioned being suspicious of me (at least not since Day 3). Where did you get the idea that SVS wanted to lynch me?

What do you think about my case on TH? TH's case on SVS? After I stated my case, you were more interested in the general consensus about TH rather than your own read on him. After TH posted his case on SVS, you opted to wait for SVS's response (and probably everyone else's thoughts as well). Both times, you acknowledged the cases without really saying much. That reads to me as opportunistic. And to all of this I ask, what do you think?


I'll start. I think TH is a pink, and I also think there's a strong possibility that SVS is WW.

I believe BR, SVS, and LC are not pinks. I think SD, DP, TH, and BR are not RR's or WW, and that BR was on Epig's team (before he died). I also think Bass was on TH's team. I also think there is a (very) slight chance that LC is a RR.

[S~V~S]

And if you think my reaction to bass' death sounded guilty, you cannot read me at all. Which is something I have already told you in a different game. I was in the middle of writing a post accusing Bass & MM of being BTS when boo posted that he was dead, lol. I was very surprised and did not really know what to say.

Linki, cause I just said it earlier, and I was in the middle of accusing you when bass died, MM. That could be where she got that notion

[S~V~S]

this is red:



Every time you say pink, MM it confuses the crap out of me.

ANd I am so not Waterworks, you are wrong there, although you ARE correct about me not being Red.

[Turnip Head]

I'm at work so I post when I can. Sorry it coincided with your dinner SVS.

You want to bet? Okay, if you're not Water Works, I'll sell my hotel back to the bank, if that's a thing I'm allowed to do.

I'd wager my Elohcin Christmas Cake, but there's no way in hell I would ever risk giving that up!!

But I'm not Water Works and I think that's been proven as much as it can be. If it's not me and it's not you, who is it?

[fingersplints]

I might have believed you if you bet the cake.

[S~V~S]

I don't know, but I guarantee you it isn't me. And if you are not willing to give up your cake, then you don't really believe it :P

But I don't want that when I randomized that, I was happy you got it. I want a profile pic. Nothing degrading or mean, and I will be open to negotiation on that point. But yeah, I want your profile pic for a month. If I am WW, you can have mine for 2 months.

[Marmot]

this is red:



Every time you say pink, MM it confuses the crap out of me.

ANd I am so not Waterworks, you are wrong there, although you ARE correct about me not being Red.

Yup

Every time I say pink, I'm talking about the second row, with St. Charles, States, and Virginia.

[S~V~S]

this is red:



Every time you say pink, MM it confuses the crap out of me.

ANd I am so not Waterworks, you are wrong there, although you ARE correct about me not being Red.

Yup

Every time I say pink, I'm talking about the second row, with St. Charles, States, and Virginia.

Now see, I thought you were talking about the reds. I think of those as violet, but OK. Thanks for clarifying. You were mystifying me a bit, since I thought you were talking about a different group. You don't seem to have any theories on the reds. Any ideas there?

[S~V~S]

I'm at work so I post when I can. Sorry it coincided with your dinner SVS.

I thought you were lurking in the thread almost the whole time I was here, but not posting. When I left, then you started posting.

So do we have a bet? Profile pics, yours for 1 month if I am NOT Waterworks, you get mine for two months if I am Waterworks? I am pretty fond of my Awarewolf, I would be loathe to give him up

[S~V~S]

ebwop~

I thought you were lurking in the thread almost the whole time I was here, but not posting. When I left, then you started posting, but i could have been mistaken.

[Marmot]

I'd bet zeek was a red. The timing of his kill coincided with the reds getting hotels, and WW knew his property at the time of the kill, which I didn't realize until TH brought it up.

I don't know about the other two. It makes sense for LC to be red, because he had the auto-find, and the reds were the first group to form, and formed rather quickly. But I still can't seem to drop the idea that he and Epi were on a team.

Another thought on the reds. They may have formed quickly because they happened to be a group of three active players who WOULD search for each other first. In that case, LC, zeek and MP would be an ideal red group, or some combination like that.

[Turnip Head]

I feel like I've got no balls for not betting the cake, but I can't. I just can't. I want that thing so bad.

Linki: if I'm lurking it's on my phone. I post when I can.

I accept those terms. But now you're really starting to make me doubt myself. :-/

[juliets]

SVS are you going to respond to TH's accusations?

You know what time I get off of work, and you know when I commute. You played the game where I was freaking out on the bus, didn't you? I just got home.

oops I just saw this. I am in central time and didn't even think about what time it was when I asked this question. I wouldnt want to put you on the spot like that its just that TH was acting like you werent going to say anything else and I couldnt imagine that was true.

[fingersplints]

this is red:



Every time you say pink, MM it confuses the crap out of me.

ANd I am so not Waterworks, you are wrong there, although you ARE correct about me not being Red.

Yup

Every time I say pink, I'm talking about the second row, with St. Charles, States, and Virginia.

Now see, I thought you were talking about the reds. I think of those as violet, but OK. Thanks for clarifying. You were mystifying me a bit, since I thought you were talking about a different group. You don't seem to have any theories on the reds. Any ideas there?

I think of them as fuchsia colored. I think LC might be a red. idk who his partners are though

So when did this get to be lets lynch WW again?

linki but posting anyways

[juliets]

ok, i don't think SVS would make that bet if she was WW.

[Turnip Head]

Voting for SVS. It's either her or me at this point and I believe in my case on her even if I'm having second thoughts now that she wants to bet on it. There's a lot of evidence against her.

[Marmot]

As for the RR's I do have an idea of who one might be, but I'm not going to post it yet.

[S~V~S]

ok, i don't think SVS would make that bet if she was WW.

I never make that kind of bet, but in this case the case is so wrong, yet so plausible (I did not post anywhere on site the night of the missing Utility kill, I replaced in the night WW killed BR, there was something else I can't recall this second) that I thought I wanted to have some fun with it.

[S~V~S]

Voting for SVS. It's either her or me at this point and I believe in my case on her even if I'm having second thoughts now that she wants to bet on it. There's a lot of evidence against her.

Do you take my bet?????????????

[S~V~S]

My profile pic for 2 months vs your pic for one says i am not Waterworks, and I did not kill Bass. You are dead wrong.