Game of Champions 2022 mafia win lol

[Cape90]

it wouldn't be annoying if i didnt think petit was just town here

[Cape90]

i'm being townread too much

Alison - I think you are town for your progression (690) on le petit (709). Alison claims KP. People have said Alison is wolfy, I don't get it.

Creature - I have no clue, somewhere between town and wolf meta.

Dennis - Seems like the type of person to get a heavy wagon on them. I'm neutral here.

DrWigly - I don't have a good reason to think Wigly is town here, but I feel like Wigly is town here off "seeming curious" I guess... somewhat.

Dyslexicon - 3rd party moment.

EnderWiggin - 3rd party moment.

falcon45ca - I have no clue, somewhere between town and wolf meta.

-Wow my write ups are really writing themselves arent they-

Golden - Never played with you, but I like your posts, they seem to be in obviously town territory. I'm lazy but ima just point to things 1200, (826 (combined with townreading Alison)), also not citing specific things, but I like Golden's confidence on their Kate townread (I haven't read Kate yet).

Guillotine - Feels like town!Guillo this game, wasn't sure, but with their recent material, I am pretty sure about this. Solving also feels independent like it usually feels with them.

hollowkatt - I think ur kinda wolfy this game HK NGL.

I often think Cape is wolf when he's town.

But also Cape wolf.

I'd put cape in town pile tbh
Why you think wolf?

That reads list literally picks out people to say "Idk".

Why do you think town?

oversimplification

[Cape90]

i'm being townread too much

Alison - I think you are town for your progression (690) on le petit (709). Alison claims KP. People have said Alison is wolfy, I don't get it.

Creature - I have no clue, somewhere between town and wolf meta.

Dennis - Seems like the type of person to get a heavy wagon on them. I'm neutral here.

DrWigly - I don't have a good reason to think Wigly is town here, but I feel like Wigly is town here off "seeming curious" I guess... somewhat.

Dyslexicon - 3rd party moment.

EnderWiggin - 3rd party moment.

falcon45ca - I have no clue, somewhere between town and wolf meta.

-Wow my write ups are really writing themselves arent they-

Golden - Never played with you, but I like your posts, they seem to be in obviously town territory. I'm lazy but ima just point to things 1200, (826 (combined with townreading Alison)), also not citing specific things, but I like Golden's confidence on their Kate townread (I haven't read Kate yet).

Guillotine - Feels like town!Guillo this game, wasn't sure, but with their recent material, I am pretty sure about this. Solving also feels independent like it usually feels with them.

hollowkatt - I think ur kinda wolfy this game HK NGL.

I often think Cape is wolf when he's town.

But also Cape wolf.

I'd put cape in town pile tbh
Why you think wolf?

That reads list literally picks out people to say "Idk".

Why do you think town?

oversimplification

[Le petit poussin]

I just took advantage of HK being weird and mostly afk as villager when I was wolf. (Rask can confirm.)

To explain my apathy and lack of care for pushing HK rn despite the fact that I think his Guillo stuff was weird.

Seconded

[Cape90]

This site cant be reached

Check if there is a typo in mafiathesynicate.ohmygodkillmenow

[EnderWiggin]

I've been "Oversimplification"d 3 times!

I don't know how to come back from this.

[Cape90]

I am spearheading his ML Mac

LE PETIT IS LITERALLY JUST WOLF LMAO

[VOTE: Le petit poussin] aubergine

okay he thought he could openwolf around me

lmao

[Cape90]

I've been "Oversimplification"d 3 times!

I don't know how to come back from this.

i know your hyperposting but be towny maybe?

[Dennis]

it wouldn't be annoying if i didnt think petit was just town here

I am spearheading his ML Mac

LE PETIT IS LITERALLY JUST WOLF LMAO

[VOTE: Le petit poussin] aubergine

okay he thought he could openwolf around me

lmao

[Le petit poussin]

yeah lol whatever Cape. This was obviously a sarcasm to Mac enquirying why u were getting wagoned (stances, stances)

[Le petit poussin]

I just took advantage of HK being weird and mostly afk as villager when I was wolf. (Rask can confirm.)

To explain my apathy and lack of care for pushing HK rn despite the fact that I think his Guillo stuff was weird.

Seconded

actually define weird here @EnderWiggin (was seconding everything before "despite")

[Cape90]

instead of elliming me while im on vacation

maybe get someone who is actively wolfy like petit who has been burying me like wolf anyways

or urist who has been literally trolling me

or like half of creature, also for some reason, the link in the beginning with Creature's ISO is MEGA BROKEN

or more obvious people like ilario

i think Master Radishes is a pet wolf read and reading more of his stuff, yeah sure

DrWigly is just POE fodder there is that

[Cape90]

it wouldn't be annoying if i didnt think petit was just town here

I am spearheading his ML Mac

LE PETIT IS LITERALLY JUST WOLF LMAO

[VOTE: Le petit poussin] aubergine

okay he thought he could openwolf around me

lmao

yes

I think petit openwolfing there literally just does mean petit is

1. pushing me in bad faith

2. he isn't curious about me and his dog water solving of my slot shows that

I tend to like people pushing me in the rallying way Le Petit has but then Petit has been drilling in the same tired point about me faking my reads.

It's a static read

it's also completely terrible because, he doesn't know that, and he is pissing me off frankly with words such as "he deserves it"

i hate that garbagio frankly

[Cape90]

HK calling someone an asshole or equivalent is more than >rand town and anyone who says otherwise is an asshole.

I would say this is generally true, I have seen HK get toxic as wolf before

[Cape90]

Mac is not doing what I expect him to do at all to me. Like he is defending me for some reason when he usually would push me. I feel like it would be easy as mac!mafia to just go along with pushing me so it's town indicative

[Cape90]

damn it people don't give me half baked answers I don't have the energy, patience or tolerance for it I will just scumread you for being difficult

also you literally asked me to give you a half-baked answer at one point in the game

[Cape90]

Anyway I don't want you all complaining about wagons being stale. That's a fucking wolf excuse to abort an otherwise strong wagon on their partner.

You should vote Dennis.

The Cape90 wagon irradiates a lot more "yeah this is a hit" vibes than the Dennis wagon.

how so?

[Cape90]

pyxxy is still a wolf but I would rather do Ancape90.

Why is pyxxy a wolf

He is a lot lot more underwhelming than in his town games. He literally posted lots and lots of texts with his reads in those games. Here he is just very defensive.

if you are talking about me

let's just say there is a reason

well okay being on vacation and having sucky signal helped with that

[ilario]

instead of elliming me while im on vacation

maybe get someone who is actively wolfy like petit who has been burying me like wolf anyways

or urist who has been literally trolling me

or like half of creature, also for some reason, the link in the beginning with Creature's ISO is MEGA BROKEN

or more obvious people like ilario

i think Master Radishes is a pet wolf read and reading more of his stuff, yeah sure

DrWigly is just POE fodder there is that

lmfaooo

old me would try to defend you here my obvious villa friend

[Cape90]

Okay well I found that Creature is the town on my wagon

[Cape90]

instead of elliming me while im on vacation

maybe get someone who is actively wolfy like petit who has been burying me like wolf anyways

or urist who has been literally trolling me

or like half of creature, also for some reason, the link in the beginning with Creature's ISO is MEGA BROKEN

or more obvious people like ilario

i think Master Radishes is a pet wolf read and reading more of his stuff, yeah sure

DrWigly is just POE fodder there is that

lmfaooo

old me would try to defend you here my obvious villa friend

i got so little access to this game and you only posted like 25 times, what the heck is going on, this isn't the town!ilario I usually see.

-Flashes back to hydra game 2 where you were extremely underwhelming-

okay you were scummy in that game and there isn't much to change my mind about that. Humph

[ilario]

sometimes i lowpost regardless of alignment lol, i have posted less than 10 times in a champs game as town for most of a day phase

[Cape90]

[VOTE: Cape90] aubergine

Dennis is still a wolf.

But this needs speedyeeting.

Cape's posts have kind of floated past my eyes, but also when I played with him previously I thought he was a wolf and he wasn't.

If we are sure town are pushing my wagon, I feel pretty good about this being a scum comment

if not

I feel good about it being a scum comment anyways?

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

[ilario]

also the usual town illario gets nkd too often, theres no point blowing my load so early d1 in a mash. ive adjusted my play to live longer.

[Cape90]

Damn I got distracted with work (how dare I’m forced to work on a work day) and I lost my post.

I’ve got pretty solid civ reads on: Golden, Allison, Nutella & Lucy. But I do think SVS point on Golden/Kate could have some merit.

/slight civ reads on:
Rondo
Gullio
Michelle
Neon
Urist

I’d not want to vote off this phase

Marmot
Scotty
Sloonie
Wilgy
Mac
Cap
Le petit (even though they voted for me)
TSP
Svs
Anyone that hasn’t posted

Prime eyeballing in order of most scumish

Dennis
Creature
Kate
TSP
Wilgy


I know the last two are on my not voting off list, so while I’m. Leery of them I’d not vote for them today.


Also honorary mention is Sabie. They’re here and very active, but not really contributing that much yet. They’re also not showcasing that normal townie indecisiveness I’d expect.

I'm sabi not sabie

You only played one game with me

Well shit, no wonder I was so confused that game.

I’m striking my Sabi read until further notice and dying from embarrassment instead

This feels like a fake derp because a) it was announced sabie is a mod in the game and b) you didn't have this issue in cartomacy

Sooooo hmmmm

This is a silly reason to vote for someone and fake derps don’t exist

i would like this post if sig wasn't referring to themselves lol

[Cape90]

I am 95%+ likely to use my gun on a lowposter by the way.

by choice or by rule? or both?

I can use it on anyone I want, but the way it works makes it a lot more profitable if I shoot a zeroposter that doesn't care about the game and will realistically be POE'd forever

I’d agree with this.


Voting off zero posters/non active people is usually a waste of time since it’s a crapshoot if they’re mafia and it’s so easily for mafia to jump on said wagons for cover. Shooting them resolves this issue, it gets a flip of someone who likely won’t be active at end of game when town needs their vote, and IF they’re mafia than we can get someone who if not 100% cleared town at least very close to it.


(This is all void if I’m included in the “zero poster” camp and if I am that’s 100% a bad idea and only mafia would suggest it )

it depends on how much KP is in this game and how much of it is actually sueful

Alison could have their KP right now

[ilario]

how many hours from now is eod?

[Cape90]

@Marmot (trying not to make quote walls)

Marmot asked:

What'd you like about 112's first post?

I think your take on Sloonei is on point. He doesn't play much anymore, nor do I recall him being the active poster he used to be when he does play, is there a reason you have him as POE as a result? I think of that particular part of his play as NAI.

Based on this, and Neons, reaction, I think I may be misusing POE? It's just process of elimination, it means same as "not sure" or "No Read". It means I have to figure it out, not that there is any suspicion. Null.

Spoiler: show

Im sure it is unfun to get correctly scum read off a post like that. What did you think? That it was gonna work again?

Fuck off guillotine. You're being a belligerent bellend and I'm done dealing with you.

Another overreaction. We can do this all day, this kind of responses will not get me to back off, totally the contrary.

Hi.

8 pages already is ludicrous, don’t count on me to read that.

Here’s a quick summary so you don’t have to:

-Guillo vs HK is a WWE match- nothing of substance and lots of play fighting

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Nothing of substace?

Im not gonna let you pass up my push on HK as nothing of substance.

But if Scotty is scum, Hollowkatt is town based on that post.

Guillo, I got nothing more out of your ISO. Your read on HK is still a very early micro-reads that you are entertaining. You are also overreacting. (giggles)

HK never reacts to me like this as town. He expressed a townread on me for NAI reasons and i can see it as an attempt to pocket me and also associate me with him.
He personally attacked me which he has never done and bailed out, so im willing to flip him to find out what's up.

I actually think the totally overblown insult clears him. Someone with team members they're closely associating with via DM does not make a post like that.

This is the 112 post I liked. I liked the insight here, thinking beyond the obvious. And I agreed with the thought.

that seems like a fairly obvious thought to have

[Cape90]

how many hours from now is eod?

6 hours, i might not be here, going to downtown disney ^.^

Also S~V~S procrastinating ISO on me is a big SMH moment

[Cape90]

I just wish HK would be here and do actual towntells for me that don't involve AtE

[ilario]

how many hours from now is eod?

6 hours, i might not be here, going to downtown disney ^.^

Also S~V~S procrastinating ISO on me is a big SMH moment

can i come

[Cape90]

how many hours from now is eod?

6 hours, i might not be here, going to downtown disney ^.^

Also S~V~S procrastinating ISO on me is a big SMH moment

can i come

i mean

ur a little far

[S~V~S]

how many hours from now is eod?

6 hours, i might not be here, going to downtown disney ^.^

Also S~V~S procrastinating ISO on me is a big SMH moment

Okey Dokey, I have been sitting here refreshing becasue i didn't want to dump this while you were currently flailing in the thread, so here you go.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

OK, Cape, our current wagon leader.

I am not always sure what I'm looking at here, since I definitely agree with Cape on this,

with ISOing you just miss context

There is a lot of discussion of IAWY and Scotty that, being honest, I didn't totally understand. I am going to try to reread it in context.

He made a townread of me, with the caveat that the post I made to try to get Kate to look at me looked Wolfy to him (fair enough, it had a specific purpose, and was aimed at a specific person). He also liked my post on 112, and later said he thought 112 was town.

As I read along, I found myself agreeing with several of his reads. Had no idea why he hit anyones radar (unless it was for reasons related to meta w/people I am not familiar with), until he started backpedaling himself a bit answering Rondos questions. Also, he spent alot of time early commenting on a discussion between IAWY and Scotty, but then he townread both of them towards the end of his ISO? Although he was fairly waffly on each. He and Scotty voted for each other at one point, though I guess that didn't last.

As Cape would say, Scotty is trending down for me.

Urist is one of those slots where I don''t really know but I lean scum on them. But I also think it could be a playstyle thing with him. The sort of confident kind of snark coming off urist this game is something all right.

I don't disagree with Cape here, but that little caveat there ... I am glass houses and all re waffling, I tend to try to see both sides. Is this a normal thing for Cape?

Le petit is think I read page by page it's ducking dumb

?

my pb with you isn't that you aren't reading. It's that you aren't reading but pretending you are and faking reads. See my post about Alisons.

Another example:

I like SVS's post on 112.

I am not catching up

This post from SVS is clearly about HK. So I dunno what you liked since you didn't even start to process it.

U are just a wolf buddy. Sucky rand in a mash but such is life.

It's called, I am trying to be helpful in this stupid game with no time to be that helpful in this stupid game.

I am just confused here, I have made no posts/opinions about HK, and my post was clearly about 112. Which has no reflection on Cape, he isn't the one who said the confusing thing, I am just confuzzled by it

And Cape doesn't seem to be disagreeing with that, though. Which makes the most recent posts between him and L'il Fishy (new to me, and somehow I doubt they like "PP"; maybe LPP? It looks to be Petit, but I do wish it was L'il Fishy) feel a bit performative to me.

This is a developing situation. But I came out of this ISO leaning bad on Cape, Scotty, and maybe Petit. Not enough to vote on anyone over it yet, but most def in the red part of the rainbow. Plus IAYW is voting Ender, who is one of Capes biggest accusers. Not sure if this is a bunch of Mafia friends being insular, or some woofs whose efforts at distancing got too intertwined or what. This whole situation reads like a big giant clusterfuck, lol.

And now I feel bad dropping an alphabetical ISO into a current situation, but meh.

[Cape90]

I haven't talked a lot about Porscha but I think Porscha is probably fine today? If only because their posting feels natural when she is posting at least

[ilario]

how many hours from now is eod?

6 hours, i might not be here, going to downtown disney ^.^

Also S~V~S procrastinating ISO on me is a big SMH moment

can i come

i mean

ur a little far

/vote cape

[nutella]

Bro soooo many pages

[nutella]

Oh we wagoning cape now that's pretty cool actually I think I'm down but gonna read

[S~V~S]

K, gotta walk the dog, eat lunch, bbl to skip ahead to Lucy.

[ilario]

for the record im not actually voting cape

[S~V~S]

for the record im not actually voting cape

Neither am, I at this point.

i see you voted for Dennis; can you give me a general idea of why? I don't really see the suspicion, and would like to.

[Cape90]

how many hours from now is eod?

6 hours, i might not be here, going to downtown disney ^.^

Also S~V~S procrastinating ISO on me is a big SMH moment

Okey Dokey, I have been sitting here refreshing becasue i didn't want to dump this while you were currently flailing in the thread, so here you go.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

OK, Cape, our current wagon leader.

I am not always sure what I'm looking at here, since I definitely agree with Cape on this,

with ISOing you just miss context

There is a lot of discussion of IAWY and Scotty that, being honest, I didn't totally understand. I am going to try to reread it in context.

He made a townread of me, with the caveat that the post I made to try to get Kate to look at me looked Wolfy to him (fair enough, it had a specific purpose, and was aimed at a specific person). He also liked my post on 112, and later said he thought 112 was town.

As I read along, I found myself agreeing with several of his reads. Had no idea why he hit anyones radar (unless it was for reasons related to meta w/people I am not familiar with), until he started backpedaling himself a bit answering Rondos questions. Also, he spent alot of time early commenting on a discussion between IAWY and Scotty, but then he townread both of them towards the end of his ISO? Although he was fairly waffly on each. He and Scotty voted for each other at one point, though I guess that didn't last.

As Cape would say, Scotty is trending down for me.

Urist is one of those slots where I don''t really know but I lean scum on them. But I also think it could be a playstyle thing with him. The sort of confident kind of snark coming off urist this game is something all right.

I don't disagree with Cape here, but that little caveat there ... I am glass houses and all re waffling, I tend to try to see both sides. Is this a normal thing for Cape?

Le petit is think I read page by page it's ducking dumb

?

my pb with you isn't that you aren't reading. It's that you aren't reading but pretending you are and faking reads. See my post about Alisons.

Another example:

I like SVS's post on 112.

I am not catching up

This post from SVS is clearly about HK. So I dunno what you liked since you didn't even start to process it.

U are just a wolf buddy. Sucky rand in a mash but such is life.

It's called, I am trying to be helpful in this stupid game with no time to be that helpful in this stupid game.

I am just confused here, I have made no posts/opinions about HK, and my post was clearly about 112. Which has no reflection on Cape, he isn't the one who said the confusing thing, I am just confuzzled by it

And Cape doesn't seem to be disagreeing with that, though. Which makes the most recent posts between him and L'il Fishy (new to me, and somehow I doubt they like "PP"; maybe LPP? It looks to be Petit, but I do wish it was L'il Fishy) feel a bit performative to me.

This is a developing situation. But I came out of this ISO leaning bad on Cape, Scotty, and maybe Petit. Not enough to vote on anyone over it yet, but most def in the red part of the rainbow. Plus IAYW is voting Ender, who is one of Capes biggest accusers. Not sure if this is a bunch of Mafia friends being insular, or some woofs whose efforts at distancing got too intertwined or what. This whole situation reads like a big giant clusterfuck, lol.

And now I feel bad dropping an alphabetical ISO into a current situation, but meh.

okay

I have changed my mind recently looking back at that 112 post. It's pretty NAI, but defending HK then leaving does somewhat seem not wolfy to me so there is that.

I waffle all the time though I guess it isn't my place to say.

Oh yeah petit did say that post about 112 was about HK which was strange.

I also get performative a lot (but I may have been deliberate on that).

Besides that point, I don't really know why I look bad from what you have said besides the whole my push on Petit being performative. I would say my push on baudib1 from "insert only mafia game that I linked earlier that is not loading for me" does beat the performativity of the read on Petit. It is a method I will use to RT people.

[Cape90]

Oh we wagoning cape now that's pretty cool actually I think I'm down but gonna read

you definitely were not earlier

[ilario]

Urist, Nut, Marmot, Michelle towncore. Anyone disagree?

unsure on nut, yes on the rest

[ilario]

for the record im not actually voting cape

Neither am, I at this point.

i see you voted for Dennis; can you give me a general idea of why? I don't really see the suspicion, and would like to.

i was sheeping neon and i remember not liking something from his start, im not confident hes a hit fwiw

[nutella]

Oh we wagoning cape now that's pretty cool actually I think I'm down but gonna read

you definitely were not earlier

Maybe I didn't say so but I've been quietly worried about you for a while. Has gone up and down

[Cape90]

Urist, Nut, Marmot, Michelle towncore. Anyone disagree?

unsure on nut, yes on the rest

explain Urist from your POV

[Cape90]

how many hours from now is eod?

6 hours, i might not be here, going to downtown disney ^.^

Also S~V~S procrastinating ISO on me is a big SMH moment

can i come

i mean

ur a little far

/vote cape

i dont have the money for plane tickets okay?

[Cape90]

Okay well I found that Creature is the town on my wagon

This btw has to do with how Creature is treating the wagon on me now

The whole sentiment of "i don't care if it's stale, this feels like a hit based on how wagons are i guess (idk this part)" and how Creature compared that to the Dennis wagon and Dennis not being a hit.

It's slightly annoying not really being read by Creature, but his comments surrounding it have felt towny for him and not in wolf meta.

[Cape90]

I think the tinfoil that Golden is only townreading Kate because it is a contradictory read is silly.

[Cape90]

What is the mafia jusrifucation in Kate awkwardly claiming vanilla?

i don't really get this point for already said reasons