Game of Champions 2022 mafia win lol

[EnderWiggin]

Seanzie should be the elim. I'm back to confidence on this. Rondo is probably just also a wolf and is a fine wagon but Seanzie is wolf kp and should die.

Why Seanzie? Why is he mafia? Why would he claim to be KP? Why would he claim to be strongman on top of all?

Bro he's literally the wolfiest person in the thread. His iso is garbage. He shot ilario etc etc I feel like a broken record like read some of my earlier stuff about him ffs.

Kill Sean. SVS is what the wolves want and her defense is fine. Sean has no content.

That post you're on about Dizzy was a response to nutella's posts here talking about how Sean was behaving.

I realize that might not be obvious, but it was adding on to this train of thought.

Alright. I don't know why I'm having a hard time reading you. I feel like I should just read you as town here

You should tbh tbh.

You've seen my bad wolf game and my mediocre wolf game, and as you're probably aware, I'm hardcapped there.

What do you make of SVS hard tunneling you?

Scotty asks a bunch of questions like this which is leading towards people who should honestly be towncleared but then doesn't (yet?) appear to do anything with them.

Caveat I haven't caught up and maybe Scotty does something cool since then.

[Urist]

rondo is obvious mafia

[Urist]

jk lol

[Urist]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

I am the captain of this ship.

let the record show that Urist cast the first vote on Scotty.

[EnderWiggin]

rondo is obvious mafia

:nod: :nod:

[EnderWiggin]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

I am the captain of this ship.

let the record show that Urist cast the first vote on Scotty.

Doth you covet my captains hat, ye knave?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Oh fuck never mind. Everything I said about Guillo is wrong. Creature flipped with my other role. Guillo can die fuck it.

Pls explain

[Lilypetal]

@Neon vote scotty !!!!! owo

[EnderWiggin]

Good morning you *FILTHY CASUAL*

[Marmot]

10k posts hype

[EnderWiggin]

That was aimed at Rondo

[Marmot]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Ender raises good point(s)

[EnderWiggin]

I have heard people say bastard game, but what exactly is that? The host throws in a secret twist?

I always thought the point of a vig is to kill baddies, not sort out possible town. We've had two baddies vigged this game; this is like an extra chop round. I know this makes me look hopelessly old fashioned and I don't care

And I am gonna put in my vote for @Dyslexicon to vig Marmot.

They are the person I most find bad, they keep wiggling their way out of it. I think being a fruit vendor is a good, innocuous role to hide behind. I think their interactions with Sabi were super sketch, and I think they slipped up when comparing Neons game here to her bad game in Holes, which led me to compare Marmot here to Holes, and yeah, not the same Marmot.

Is this a soft protect against HK?

SVS do be a pretty good bet for another 3p at this point.

I could believe this.

[Marmot]

Why aren't we chopping Guillo?

[RondoDimBuckle]

End of Day 2 vote progression

Spoiler: show

11:00
RondoDimBuckle (5) - falcon45ca, Urist, Seanzie, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin
S~V~S (5) - Golden, Alison, sig, Sloonei, Scotty
Scotty (4) - hollowkatt, Creature, Marmot, Party Crasher
Seanzie (5) - nutella, Neon, Dyslexicon, Michelle, MacDougall

12:30
RondoDimBuckle (7) - Sloonei, falcon45ca, nutella, Urist, Seanzie, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin
S~V~S (5) - Golden, Alison, sig, Scotty, Kate
Scotty (4) - hollowkatt, Creature, Marmot, Party Crasher
Seanzie (5) - Neon, Dyslexicon, Michelle, Lilypetal, MacDougall

14:30
RondoDimBuckle (6) - Sloonei, falcon45ca, Urist, Seanzie, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin
S~V~S (4) - Golden, sig, Scotty, Kate
Scotty (4) - hollowkatt, Creature, Marmot, Party Crasher
Seanzie (7) - nutella, Neon, Alison, Dyslexicon, Michelle, Lilypetal, MacDougall

16:30
RondoDimBuckle (8) - Sloonei, falcon45ca, Golden, Seanzie, MacDougall, Scotty, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin
S~V~S (3) - Urist, sig, Kate
Scotty (4) - hollowkatt, Creature, Marmot, Party Crasher
Seanzie (7) - Dyslexicon, nutella, Neon, Alison, Michelle, Lilypetal, Porscha

17:00
RondoDimBuckle (7) - Sloonei, falcon45ca, Party Crasher, MacDougall, Scotty, Michelle, EnderWiggin
S~V~S (7) - RondoDimBuckle, Urist, Seanzie, Creature, sig, Golden, Kate
Scotty (2) - hollowkatt, Marmot
Seanzie (7) - Master Radishes, nutella, Neon, Alison, Dyslexicon, Lilypetal, Porscha

19:00 EOD
Seanzie (10) - Marmot, falcon45ca, nutella, Neon, Party Crasher, Alison, Dyslexicon, Lilypetal, Porscha, Kate
RondoDimBuckle (6) - Urist, Sloonei, Creature, EnderWiggin, 112, Seanzie
Marmot (4) - MacDougall, Master Radishes, RondoDimBuckle, Scotty
S~V~S (2) - sig, Golden
Scotty (2) - hollowkatt, Michelle
Golden (1) - Guillotine
MacDougall (1) - S~V~S
sig (1) - DrWilgy

For the purposes of this analysis, I'm going to disregard the fact that there is at least one mod squad still in the mix, and I'll refer to all non-mafia factions as "town". The only thing I can determine from this with regards to the mod squad is that Scotty is almost certainly not mod squad.

I'm going to assume that the 11:00 wagon on Seanzie is all town (Neon, Dyslexicon, Michelle, MacDougall). The wagon had traction, and I think it'd be a pretty risky play to bus in this situation to bus that early when there were plenty of other viable options.
Then, I'm going to assume that Lilypetal and Porscha are town for being on Seanzie at 17:00. I'd have a hard time believing that there were more than two mafia on Seanzie when the wagons were 7-7-7.
I'll also assume that Marmot is town, because Radishes switched off Seanzie and onto Marmot, trying to get a last-minute wagon there.
For all of these assumptions, I've coloured the names in dark green above. I believe that these are pretty safe assumptions.

Now let's try some more contrived assumptions. These I'll colour blue. I'm not totally comfortable with these, but without them I'm unable to make a decision on whom to vote.
I'll assume that the people who joined the wagon on Seanzie late are town. This includes Party Crasher, Kate, and falcon. These were people who were voting for Rondo or SVS when the wagons were 7-7-7. I don't know the timing of these votes so it's difficult to tell whether they were a last-minute bus to get on the wagon once the yeet was already decided.
I'll assume that sig is town for claiming the kill on Alison, because there's no reason to assume he'd do that as mafia.
I'm going to assume that Rondo is town, because two mafiosi bussed their vig and I don't see why they'd bus their vig over some other role (whatever Rondo is).

With these assumptions, I feel confident placing a vote on Scotty. It doesn't make sense to me that no mafia would ever vote for Scotty, if he were town. Especially since Radishes was looking for an alternative to Seanzie at EoD, I don't see why he'd choose Marmot over Scotty if Scotty is town. I also believe that at least one of the Rondo voters at 17:00 has to be mafia, given that there were two people on Seanzie at that time.

If Scotty is town, then I think that Party Crasher is mafia, for the same reasons I mentioned above: I don't believe there would be 0 mafia voting for Scotty, and I think that there would be at least one mafia voting for Rondo at 17:00.

Hot damn urist towning up. I would like to know Scotty's alignment and I felt like he was trying to pocket me d1 and 2 any reason not to?

[Scotty]

@Neon vote scotty !!!!! owo

suddenly wim i see

[EnderWiggin]

Why aren't we chopping Guillo?

Scotty wolfier?

I'm fine with a wagon on Guillo.

I just wanna shake things up in final hour for ? reasons.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Woah lily wagon interesting

[Lilypetal]

@Neon vote scotty !!!!! owo

suddenly wim i see

lol how is that wim? @'ing a town read who hasn't voted?

funny

[Golden]

Scotty is literally offering to be vigged by Mac so that we don’t have to elim him.

We could just do that.

[Scotty]

I should not be the chop today.

I will happily vote Mac and have him kill me but I would be a waste of an elim

[EnderWiggin]

Anyway I repeat that Guillo most likely doesn't actually have my role now that I've seen Creature did.

Or maybe he still does but it's less likely.

Bye.

He already said he was lying about that lel.

[Lilypetal]

i will chop guillo as well as stated prior

[Marmot]

I should not be the chop today.

I will happily vote Mac and have him kill me but I would be a waste of an elim

Ok fair.

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine


Looking at Lily now.

[Party Crasher]

Why aren't we chopping Guillo?

Why aren't we chopping Guillo?

Scotty wolfier?

I'm fine with a wagon on Guillo.

I just wanna shake things up in final hour for ? reasons.

dont chop guillo he 0 posted today nook hates late game subs he might modkill the slot

-t

[Lilypetal]

can mac vig multiple people? do u want me to vig myself too lmao

[Golden]

If y’all really want him dead at least.

[EnderWiggin]

Scotty is literally offering to be vigged by Mac so that we don’t have to elim him.

We could just do that.

"I shouldn't be the chop but instead you should kill me at night."

Honestly as bad as "We shouldn't vote x, just let the vig kill them."

Stinks of "Lemme use my power once more pls."

[RondoDimBuckle]

I am starting to feel like resolving Rondo now is optimal even though I think he's town because his play is making me nervous that he's trying to buy time to achieve a wincon like a full soup or something. Which may explain why I'm still alive as I've claimed already and they can just soup me at any point.

I am happy to go tomorrow its just important I live today. No I don't have soup and technically the information is all there I am just not connecting dots till tomorrow.

[RondoDimBuckle]

@Neon vote scotty !!!!! owo

suddenly wim i see

lol how is that wim? @'ing a town read who hasn't voted?

funny

Cmon lily you have been absent this game and now you're being voted you suddenly care

[Lilypetal]

@Neon vote scotty !!!!! owo

suddenly wim i see

lol how is that wim? @'ing a town read who hasn't voted?

funny

Cmon lily you have been absent this game and now you're being voted you suddenly care

it's a villager's duty to not be miselimmed

i'm not even having wim tho i'm doing the bare minimum to look at alternatives that could flip wolf

[RondoDimBuckle]

I should not be the chop today.

I will happily vote Mac and have him kill me but I would be a waste of an elim

Thanks Scotty sorry if you are town I am just having difficulties finding you

[Golden]

Scotty is literally offering to be vigged by Mac so that we don’t have to elim him.

We could just do that.

"I shouldn't be the chop but instead you should kill me at night."

Honestly as bad as "We shouldn't vote x, just let the vig kill them."

Stinks of "Lemme use my power once more pls."

Neither of those things are that bad in a game with this many non-elim death opportunities.

And the win equity is sooo far against wolves at the moment that I don’t think ‘let me die to use my power once more’ is even a slightly good percentage play.

[Marmot]

If I had a better role that wasn't just poison wilgy tn I'd probably take out time to clear myself like a good towny but I'm busy in a bit and role suck so

Mby I post more before day ends otherwise peace

Is your role a poison or not. I thought I've seen both options stated in the thread, and I don't know which one's accurate.

[Scotty]

[VOTE: mac] aubergine

[EnderWiggin]

End of Day 2 vote progression

Spoiler: show

11:00
RondoDimBuckle (5) - falcon45ca, Urist, Seanzie, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin
S~V~S (5) - Golden, Alison, sig, Sloonei, Scotty
Scotty (4) - hollowkatt, Creature, Marmot, Party Crasher
Seanzie (5) - nutella, Neon, Dyslexicon, Michelle, MacDougall

12:30
RondoDimBuckle (7) - Sloonei, falcon45ca, nutella, Urist, Seanzie, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin
S~V~S (5) - Golden, Alison, sig, Scotty, Kate
Scotty (4) - hollowkatt, Creature, Marmot, Party Crasher
Seanzie (5) - Neon, Dyslexicon, Michelle, Lilypetal, MacDougall

14:30
RondoDimBuckle (6) - Sloonei, falcon45ca, Urist, Seanzie, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin
S~V~S (4) - Golden, sig, Scotty, Kate
Scotty (4) - hollowkatt, Creature, Marmot, Party Crasher
Seanzie (7) - nutella, Neon, Alison, Dyslexicon, Michelle, Lilypetal, MacDougall

16:30
RondoDimBuckle (8) - Sloonei, falcon45ca, Golden, Seanzie, MacDougall, Scotty, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin
S~V~S (3) - Urist, sig, Kate
Scotty (4) - hollowkatt, Creature, Marmot, Party Crasher
Seanzie (7) - Dyslexicon, nutella, Neon, Alison, Michelle, Lilypetal, Porscha

17:00
RondoDimBuckle (7) - Sloonei, falcon45ca, Party Crasher, MacDougall, Scotty, Michelle, EnderWiggin
S~V~S (7) - RondoDimBuckle, Urist, Seanzie, Creature, sig, Golden, Kate
Scotty (2) - hollowkatt, Marmot
Seanzie (7) - Master Radishes, nutella, Neon, Alison, Dyslexicon, Lilypetal, Porscha

19:00 EOD
Seanzie (10) - Marmot, falcon45ca, nutella, Neon, Party Crasher, Alison, Dyslexicon, Lilypetal, Porscha, Kate
RondoDimBuckle (6) - Urist, Sloonei, Creature, EnderWiggin, 112, Seanzie
Marmot (4) - MacDougall, Master Radishes, RondoDimBuckle, Scotty
S~V~S (2) - sig, Golden
Scotty (2) - hollowkatt, Michelle
Golden (1) - Guillotine
MacDougall (1) - S~V~S
sig (1) - DrWilgy

For the purposes of this analysis, I'm going to disregard the fact that there is at least one mod squad still in the mix, and I'll refer to all non-mafia factions as "town". The only thing I can determine from this with regards to the mod squad is that Scotty is almost certainly not mod squad.

I'm going to assume that the 11:00 wagon on Seanzie is all town (Neon, Dyslexicon, Michelle, MacDougall). The wagon had traction, and I think it'd be a pretty risky play to bus in this situation to bus that early when there were plenty of other viable options.
Then, I'm going to assume that Lilypetal and Porscha are town for being on Seanzie at 17:00. I'd have a hard time believing that there were more than two mafia on Seanzie when the wagons were 7-7-7.
I'll also assume that Marmot is town, because Radishes switched off Seanzie and onto Marmot, trying to get a last-minute wagon there.
For all of these assumptions, I've coloured the names in dark green above. I believe that these are pretty safe assumptions.

Now let's try some more contrived assumptions. These I'll colour blue. I'm not totally comfortable with these, but without them I'm unable to make a decision on whom to vote.
I'll assume that the people who joined the wagon on Seanzie late are town. This includes Party Crasher, Kate, and falcon. These were people who were voting for Rondo or SVS when the wagons were 7-7-7. I don't know the timing of these votes so it's difficult to tell whether they were a last-minute bus to get on the wagon once the yeet was already decided.
I'll assume that sig is town for claiming the kill on Alison, because there's no reason to assume he'd do that as mafia.
I'm going to assume that Rondo is town, because two mafiosi bussed their vig and I don't see why they'd bus their vig over some other role (whatever Rondo is).

With these assumptions, I feel confident placing a vote on Scotty. It doesn't make sense to me that no mafia would ever vote for Scotty, if he were town. Especially since Radishes was looking for an alternative to Seanzie at EoD, I don't see why he'd choose Marmot over Scotty if Scotty is town. I also believe that at least one of the Rondo voters at 17:00 has to be mafia, given that there were two people on Seanzie at that time.

If Scotty is town, then I think that Party Crasher is mafia, for the same reasons I mentioned above: I don't believe there would be 0 mafia voting for Scotty, and I think that there would be at least one mafia voting for Rondo at 17:00.

You know what?

Fuck it.

Have the captain's hat, you deserve it.

This post brings a tear to my eyes.

[Dyslexicon]

[VOTE: Lily] aubergine

[Lilypetal]

My role is that I mark a player. The next night I can then target them again to announce them as marked for death. They will die in tandem with the flip.

n1 I targeted sabi.
n2 I targeted wilgy

[EnderWiggin]

Scotty is literally offering to be vigged by Mac so that we don’t have to elim him.

We could just do that.

"I shouldn't be the chop but instead you should kill me at night."

Honestly as bad as "We shouldn't vote x, just let the vig kill them."

Stinks of "Lemme use my power once more pls."

Neither of those things are that bad in a game with this many non-elim death opportunities.

And the win equity is sooo far against wolves at the moment that I don’t think ‘let me die to use my power once more’ is even a slightly good percentage play.

Yes but there's the chance Mac just doesn't kill him too.

It's better and looks good on paper.

I've definitely made the "I should die tonight instead" argument as wolf and wifomed vig off even shooting me.

[EnderWiggin]

My role is that I mark a player. The next night I can then target them again to announce them as marked for death. They will die in tandem with the flip.

n1 I targeted sabi.
n2 I targeted wilgy

I am still confused why Wilgy lel

[Marmot]

Why aren't we chopping Guillo?

Why aren't we chopping Guillo?

Scotty wolfier?

I'm fine with a wagon on Guillo.

I just wanna shake things up in final hour for ? reasons.

dont chop guillo he 0 posted today nook hates late game subs he might modkill the slot

-t

ture

My main qualm with this is that it feels a little out of spirit to make that read and assumption when it isn't explicitly stated, but you're probably right.

I don't think Nanook would use subs in GoC at this time of year in this part of the country.

[Lilypetal]

My role is that I mark a player. The next night I can then target them again to announce them as marked for death. They will die in tandem with the flip.

n1 I targeted sabi.
n2 I targeted wilgy

I am still confused why Wilgy lel

off wagons voting vanity in what seemed to be an important eod vote count wise

forgot he was even in the game

low chance of him being shot but also someone who was being suspected

made sense to me

[RondoDimBuckle]

Ok I finally perused falcon’s ISO in regards to sabi, Alison and MR. Here’s the summary of posts and my takeaways below:

Spoiler: show

Sabi anxious to volume clear themselves off a bunch of fluff posts is sus

Sabi anxious to volume clear themselves off a bunch of fluff posts is sus

It was a joke post

Then why wasn't it funny?

There wasn't one LOL, not even a chuckle, nor a giggle

Sabi anxious to volume clear themselves off a bunch of fluff posts is sus

seems more sabi indicative than wolf indicative

Do wolves always make wolf indicative posts?




See, I find that often early D1 they make the awkward "trying to fit in posts"...and Sabi is given me dem vibes

Sabi anxious to volume clear themselves off a bunch of fluff posts is sus

seems more sabi indicative than wolf indicative

Do wolves always make wolf indicative posts?




See, I find that often early D1 they make the awkward "trying to fit in posts"...and Sabi is given me dem vibes

Falcon almost all 10 of my games in syndicate you played with me lol

If you can't read me atp idk what to tell u

I believe in the power of change

I AM NOW VOLUME CLEARED.



20 POSTS SON, HAS IT EVAH BEEN DONE SO SOON?

If this is you trying to mimic sabis post you need to move on

Surrounding your focus on one post is just not gonna work

What if it's not?

Falcon y u so obsessed with me?

Y U obsessed with my obsessions?

I would prefer to exe Golden and not shoot him. My gun is a funky kind.

I'd elim this.

Why? You don't like guns, or is it funk ya got qualms with?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

MR stealin' my hmmmmmmms.




Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery

MR bustin' out curse words?




Maf

I am 95%+ likely to use my gun on a lowposter by the way.

I nominate Porscha

I nominate Porscha

I wouldn't shoot Porscha cause it would be a waste

What makes you say that?

Porscha is already dead she just doesn't know it yet

I mean we're all gonna die one day.

Stop reading Sylvia Plath before you Maf, it's depressing

Day 2:

[VOTE: master turnip] aubergine

Scotty is town and Kate is town

This is why you're my favorite. Scotty was challenging your top spot, but he blew it now.

Vote Kate? For realzies??

This is a disproportionate level of salt when you have 0 votes on you and the game is 4 hours in.

Calling "realzies??" a disproportionate level of salt is making mountains of molehills.




I don't think realzies is ever actually salt, I mean it's spelt with the letter z. This take of Alison's seems overtly manufactured

ehhhh

dial down all the sabi spew analysis I made by like 50%

I think they're still broadly valid but if sabi knew neon had a gun pointed at their head they'd be watching their words and might even be in anti spew mode

Hmmmmmm...




Going thru Alison's ISO, I saw that she gave a lot of weight to Sabi's spew, w/o considering any anti-spew. Then she has this epiphany...it's a reasonable take, but then I have to ask myself "How often does Alison back off a tunnel so easily & readily?"

I actually wanted to come into D2, if alive, ready to play properly for once. That has not happened.

You had some pep D1...who took the jelly out of your donut?

This entire game to date has been people pushing trope ‘this is wolfy’ angles that are objectively describing NAI behaviour.

Sounds like NAI behaviour :wowee:

This is wolfy.

Agreed.

I want everyone to talk about Seanzie, go

I feel he's been present, and I think his engagement has been...safe

Then his next post:

Why isn't Porscha a wagon?




[VOTE: porscha] aubergine

And the wolfy things about him vastly, vastly, vastly outweigh that one little thing

Could you highlight these wolfy traits? I've found his great to be lacking the solve quality I normally associate w/ his town game, what are you seeing?

It used to be I could rely on my wife to fall asleep watching a movie and then I'd have some interrupted mafia time.

Now she never does.

Slip some melatonin into her tea

It used to be I could rely on my wife to fall asleep watching a movie and then I'd have some interrupted mafia time.

Now she never does.

Slip some melatonin into her tea

Hmm, maybe, though I do try to avoid drugging my wife usually.

OK, thats very reasonable, commendable and certainly ethical, but...



Wouldn'st thou like to live deliciously?

[VOTE: sean] aubergine

Day 3:

[VOTE: rottenradish] aubergine

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

I assume this is due to my general slankiness. Normally it happens sooner than this!

Well, you weren't very slanky at EOD...in fact, you were quite active. Talk to me about your CFD antics if you plz?

I assume this is due to my general slankiness. Normally it happens sooner than this!

Well, you weren't very slanky at EOD...in fact, you were quite active. Talk to me about your CFD antics if you plz?

I posted a lot at that moment; doesn't mean I was doing much more than the rest of the game if I'm being mean to myself.

As for CFD antics, Iunno? I don't really remember what I did but I love flash wagons?

Oh shit, MR's been getting deep into his Pimm's cup it would seem

I assume this is due to my general slankiness. Normally it happens sooner than this!

Well, you weren't very slanky at EOD...in fact, you were quite active. Talk to me about your CFD antics if you plz?

I posted a lot at that moment; doesn't mean I was doing much more than the rest of the game if I'm being mean to myself.

As for CFD antics, Iunno? I don't really remember what I did but I love flash wagons?

Oh shit, MR's been getting deep into his Pimm's cup it would seem

Pimm's is a summer drink you peasant.

That's not a denial

Like I'm always going to be PoE and I'm going to be an easy one for wolves to push too so if we have KP then yeah I guess use it on me and save me the embarassment of being mischopped.

If I don't get shot I'll continue to sporadically try to contribute.

Wilgy must use his shot sooner than later. So, wanna give us a legacy in case you get popped?

Like I'm always going to be PoE and I'm going to be an easy one for wolves to push too so if we have KP then yeah I guess use it on me and save me the embarassment of being mischopped.

If I don't get shot I'll continue to sporadically try to contribute.

Wilgy must use his shot sooner than later. So, wanna give us a legacy in case you get popped?

Legacies are stupid and I never read anyone's so no one should read mine.

Nothing I have to say should really be taken as valuable anyway. I'm pretty out of sync. Also on phone and not gonna type up an essay here.

I don't, as a rule, like essay's in Maf. Just a blurb or two. Some small scrap of info that might help us solve.




But, seeing as you're unwilling to do that, I don't see any reason why you shouldn't be VK'd. You literally just outlined why you should be pew pewed.





Oh, and it is inherently in Maf's best interest to give as little info as possible while in the POE, so even if you're town, you're Maf siding

To start, falcon has been off and on suspicious of all 4 soup mafia at various points in the game.

However.

His suspicion on D1 for Alison and sabi is softballing it at best. He had a back and forth with sabi for like 4 posts which prompted Sabi to question why he was so ‘obsessed’ with them. Maybe a bit of an overreaction on their part. But sure.

We never circle back on sabi or Alison however. Falcon does call them both ‘wolf’ with a certain air of jokiness D1. But there is never developed reads, and he freely pivots to voting elsewhere throughout the day.

D2 is marginally better. The posts they stand out positively:
“ This take of Alison's seems overtly manufactured”
“ Going thru Alison's ISO, I saw that she gave a lot of weight to Sabi's spew, w/o considering any anti-spew. Then she has this epiphany...it's a reasonable take, but then I have to ask myself "How often does Alison back off a tunnel so easily & readily?"”
RE: Seanzie: “I feel he's been present, and I think his engagement has been...safe”

As far as actually voting, I can’t pinpoint vote totals, but when he names his votes, he never actually votes for any of the soup mafia except MR beginning of D2, Seanzie end of D2, and MR again at top of today. MR is an undeveloped read that I don’t think had any traction to begin with. His continuation of MR today before being shot is likewise pretty shruggy and not built on anything stable.
Almost all his posts with Seanzie are joking or bouncing off ideas. It wasn’t until someone asked him about Seanzie that he admitted his posts look safe. And he only added on to the Seanzie wagon in the last 40 minutes of D2, so cred there is inconsequential.

I think the most bizarre progression in his iso is his light pressing of MR on both D2 and D3, never developing, and then immediately pivoting to an alternative for possible vig shots in Porscha on D2 and 112 on D3 for inactivity. Those seem to come out of nowhere, and the only time he talks about MR getting vig’d is when others have brought up the possibility.

Conclusion; i lean soup mafia partner. I don’t think I’m confbiasing- I picked falcon to read through because no one is really talking about him and I don’t remember his presence in the game. I think he is wholly compatible with the soup mafia and I’d vote there at the present based on my full perusal of his ISO. There is nothing clearing ISO-wise with the revealed mafia members.

Actually! I really like this case! Falcon would normally thunder dome me for my ridiculous fancy play. I should not be able to get away with what I am doing today without Falcon coming at me hard. I really like this and can't believe I noticed it for seanzie and not for Falcon [VOTE: Falcon ] aubergine

[Marmot]

My role is that I mark a player. The next night I can then target them again to announce them as marked for death. They will die in tandem with the flip.

n1 I targeted sabi.
n2 I targeted wilgy

I am still confused why Wilgy lel

Ooooh I get the role now.

Thanks for broadcasting.

[RondoDimBuckle]

He has also been super utr for Falcon and this is how he wins games

[Golden]

Scotty is literally offering to be vigged by Mac so that we don’t have to elim him.

We could just do that.

"I shouldn't be the chop but instead you should kill me at night."

Honestly as bad as "We shouldn't vote x, just let the vig kill them."

Stinks of "Lemme use my power once more pls."

Neither of those things are that bad in a game with this many non-elim death opportunities.

And the win equity is sooo far against wolves at the moment that I don’t think ‘let me die to use my power once more’ is even a slightly good percentage play.

Yes but there's the chance Mac just doesn't kill him too.

It's better and looks good on paper.

I've definitely made the "I should die tonight instead" argument as wolf and wifomed vig off even shooting me.

Mac shouldn’t back out if it’s the towncall.

I get what you’re saying. I don’t disagree it’s within wolfrange.

[Scotty]

Ok I finally perused falcon’s ISO in regards to sabi, Alison and MR. Here’s the summary of posts and my takeaways below:

Spoiler: show

Sabi anxious to volume clear themselves off a bunch of fluff posts is sus

Sabi anxious to volume clear themselves off a bunch of fluff posts is sus

It was a joke post

Then why wasn't it funny?

There wasn't one LOL, not even a chuckle, nor a giggle

Sabi anxious to volume clear themselves off a bunch of fluff posts is sus

seems more sabi indicative than wolf indicative

Do wolves always make wolf indicative posts?




See, I find that often early D1 they make the awkward "trying to fit in posts"...and Sabi is given me dem vibes

Sabi anxious to volume clear themselves off a bunch of fluff posts is sus

seems more sabi indicative than wolf indicative

Do wolves always make wolf indicative posts?




See, I find that often early D1 they make the awkward "trying to fit in posts"...and Sabi is given me dem vibes

Falcon almost all 10 of my games in syndicate you played with me lol

If you can't read me atp idk what to tell u

I believe in the power of change

I AM NOW VOLUME CLEARED.



20 POSTS SON, HAS IT EVAH BEEN DONE SO SOON?

If this is you trying to mimic sabis post you need to move on

Surrounding your focus on one post is just not gonna work

What if it's not?

Falcon y u so obsessed with me?

Y U obsessed with my obsessions?

I would prefer to exe Golden and not shoot him. My gun is a funky kind.

I'd elim this.

Why? You don't like guns, or is it funk ya got qualms with?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

MR stealin' my hmmmmmmms.




Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery

MR bustin' out curse words?




Maf

I am 95%+ likely to use my gun on a lowposter by the way.

I nominate Porscha

I wouldn't shoot Porscha cause it would be a waste

What makes you say that?

Porscha is already dead she just doesn't know it yet

I mean we're all gonna die one day.

Stop reading Sylvia Plath before you Maf, it's depressing

Day 2:

[VOTE: master turnip] aubergine

Scotty is town and Kate is town

This is why you're my favorite. Scotty was challenging your top spot, but he blew it now.

Vote Kate? For realzies??

This is a disproportionate level of salt when you have 0 votes on you and the game is 4 hours in.

Calling "realzies??" a disproportionate level of salt is making mountains of molehills.




I don't think realzies is ever actually salt, I mean it's spelt with the letter z. This take of Alison's seems overtly manufactured

ehhhh

dial down all the sabi spew analysis I made by like 50%

I think they're still broadly valid but if sabi knew neon had a gun pointed at their head they'd be watching their words and might even be in anti spew mode

Hmmmmmm...




Going thru Alison's ISO, I saw that she gave a lot of weight to Sabi's spew, w/o considering any anti-spew. Then she has this epiphany...it's a reasonable take, but then I have to ask myself "How often does Alison back off a tunnel so easily & readily?"

I actually wanted to come into D2, if alive, ready to play properly for once. That has not happened.

You had some pep D1...who took the jelly out of your donut?

This entire game to date has been people pushing trope ‘this is wolfy’ angles that are objectively describing NAI behaviour.

Sounds like NAI behaviour :wowee:

This is wolfy.

Agreed.

I want everyone to talk about Seanzie, go

I feel he's been present, and I think his engagement has been...safe

Then his next post:

Why isn't Porscha a wagon?




[VOTE: porscha] aubergine

And the wolfy things about him vastly, vastly, vastly outweigh that one little thing

Could you highlight these wolfy traits? I've found his great to be lacking the solve quality I normally associate w/ his town game, what are you seeing?

It used to be I could rely on my wife to fall asleep watching a movie and then I'd have some interrupted mafia time.

Now she never does.

Slip some melatonin into her tea

It used to be I could rely on my wife to fall asleep watching a movie and then I'd have some interrupted mafia time.

Now she never does.

Slip some melatonin into her tea

Hmm, maybe, though I do try to avoid drugging my wife usually.

OK, thats very reasonable, commendable and certainly ethical, but...



Wouldn'st thou like to live deliciously?

[VOTE: sean] aubergine

Day 3:

[VOTE: rottenradish] aubergine

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

I assume this is due to my general slankiness. Normally it happens sooner than this!

Well, you weren't very slanky at EOD...in fact, you were quite active. Talk to me about your CFD antics if you plz?

I assume this is due to my general slankiness. Normally it happens sooner than this!

Well, you weren't very slanky at EOD...in fact, you were quite active. Talk to me about your CFD antics if you plz?

I posted a lot at that moment; doesn't mean I was doing much more than the rest of the game if I'm being mean to myself.

As for CFD antics, Iunno? I don't really remember what I did but I love flash wagons?

Oh shit, MR's been getting deep into his Pimm's cup it would seem

Well, you weren't very slanky at EOD...in fact, you were quite active. Talk to me about your CFD antics if you plz?

I posted a lot at that moment; doesn't mean I was doing much more than the rest of the game if I'm being mean to myself.

As for CFD antics, Iunno? I don't really remember what I did but I love flash wagons?

Oh shit, MR's been getting deep into his Pimm's cup it would seem

Pimm's is a summer drink you peasant.

That's not a denial

Like I'm always going to be PoE and I'm going to be an easy one for wolves to push too so if we have KP then yeah I guess use it on me and save me the embarassment of being mischopped.

If I don't get shot I'll continue to sporadically try to contribute.

Wilgy must use his shot sooner than later. So, wanna give us a legacy in case you get popped?

Like I'm always going to be PoE and I'm going to be an easy one for wolves to push too so if we have KP then yeah I guess use it on me and save me the embarassment of being mischopped.

If I don't get shot I'll continue to sporadically try to contribute.

Wilgy must use his shot sooner than later. So, wanna give us a legacy in case you get popped?

Legacies are stupid and I never read anyone's so no one should read mine.

Nothing I have to say should really be taken as valuable anyway. I'm pretty out of sync. Also on phone and not gonna type up an essay here.

I don't, as a rule, like essay's in Maf. Just a blurb or two. Some small scrap of info that might help us solve.




But, seeing as you're unwilling to do that, I don't see any reason why you shouldn't be VK'd. You literally just outlined why you should be pew pewed.





Oh, and it is inherently in Maf's best interest to give as little info as possible while in the POE, so even if you're town, you're Maf siding

To start, falcon has been off and on suspicious of all 4 soup mafia at various points in the game.

However.

His suspicion on D1 for Alison and sabi is softballing it at best. He had a back and forth with sabi for like 4 posts which prompted Sabi to question why he was so ‘obsessed’ with them. Maybe a bit of an overreaction on their part. But sure.

We never circle back on sabi or Alison however. Falcon does call them both ‘wolf’ with a certain air of jokiness D1. But there is never developed reads, and he freely pivots to voting elsewhere throughout the day.

D2 is marginally better. The posts they stand out positively:
“ This take of Alison's seems overtly manufactured”
“ Going thru Alison's ISO, I saw that she gave a lot of weight to Sabi's spew, w/o considering any anti-spew. Then she has this epiphany...it's a reasonable take, but then I have to ask myself "How often does Alison back off a tunnel so easily & readily?"”
RE: Seanzie: “I feel he's been present, and I think his engagement has been...safe”

As far as actually voting, I can’t pinpoint vote totals, but when he names his votes, he never actually votes for any of the soup mafia except MR beginning of D2, Seanzie end of D2, and MR again at top of today. MR is an undeveloped read that I don’t think had any traction to begin with. His continuation of MR today before being shot is likewise pretty shruggy and not built on anything stable.
Almost all his posts with Seanzie are joking or bouncing off ideas. It wasn’t until someone asked him about Seanzie that he admitted his posts look safe. And he only added on to the Seanzie wagon in the last 40 minutes of D2, so cred there is inconsequential.

I think the most bizarre progression in his iso is his light pressing of MR on both D2 and D3, never developing, and then immediately pivoting to an alternative for possible vig shots in Porscha on D2 and 112 on D3 for inactivity. Those seem to come out of nowhere, and the only time he talks about MR getting vig’d is when others have brought up the possibility.

Conclusion; i lean soup mafia partner. I don’t think I’m confbiasing- I picked falcon to read through because no one is really talking about him and I don’t remember his presence in the game. I think he is wholly compatible with the soup mafia and I’d vote there at the present based on my full perusal of his ISO. There is nothing clearing ISO-wise with the revealed mafia members.

Actually! I really like this case! Falcon would normally thunder dome me for my ridiculous fancy play. I should not be able to get away with what I am doing today without Falcon coming at me hard. I really like this and can't believe I noticed it for seanzie and not for Falcon [VOTE: Falcon ] aubergine

i still think lily is the play today

[RondoDimBuckle]

And it gives us info on Scotty win win

[Urist]

i kinda tr sabi after seeing their scum game again

Explain

idk you just seem more alive

in what world is this a m/m interaction? sabi wanted lily to try to explain the town read because she knew it was wrong.

[EnderWiggin]

Evidence Ender is town.

He didn't just silently give guns to his teammates to use to shoot townies.

Pretty strong evidence if you ask me.

Unironically yeah.

Giving free guns to wolves which are also silent-shot?

That being said N1 I didn't know so not aaaas airtight as it could be =P