Cosmere Mafia - Warbreaker - [END]

[Creature]

gotta agree with scotty here, i got insta wagoned and i've been the top wagon for the entire cycle

That doesn't say anything about your alignment. Only that all players seem undecided and three players who may or may not be town landed on you and didn't feel like changing. I saw wagons like this on wolf plenty of times.

[nutella]

Scotty could be wolf. I'm not committing to a tunnel or not at this point lol.

Gira looks worse.

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

Am I not the townie that lock wolf scotty was linking to his partner?

I'd like to hear some specifically yucky things that Scotty did.

[robyn]

gotta agree with scotty here, i got insta wagoned and i've been the top wagon for the entire cycle

That doesn't say anything about your alignment. Only that all players seem undecided and three players who may or may not be town landed on you and didn't feel like changing. I saw wagons like this on wolf plenty of times.

yeah that's why scotty's followup was weird

like i can't even reverse engineer an argument about why it'd give any information about my alignment

[Creature]

this doesn't feel like a no post cap game

Only half of the players are playing and half of the players playing are wearing pants on their heads.

[Scotty]

i will either tr or sr scotty and that'll give me more insight into the game than knowing nutellas alignment

Same tbh

Sounds like y’all need to solve me then.

I’m never obvious on D1, but I become more obvious if I have room to grow and make mistakes if wolf and make bigger mistakes if town

[nutella]

[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

Am I not the townie that lock wolf scotty was linking to his partner?

I'd like to hear some specifically yucky things that Scotty did.

That one post. With the "team" and 3p read. It wasn't good

[Gira]

i think the potential for forming a towncore with breaths is ~fine but discussion based solely on who you're townreading isn't as helpful because it's easier to blend in to. the game needs some amount of accusation and scumhunting to flow properly else it's too easy for people to fit in

i liked P#133 from S~V~S on my first pass of the game but beyond that not a whole lot jumped out to me

If it helps, I think this post is >rand!mafia.

hm, really, why's that?

IMO there wasn't actually any issue with people laying low by just giving townreads, so your post comes off as "I'm trying to look helpful, without actually really being helpful" (sometimes called CWAC). The last sentence looks like you felt like you needed to tack something on to make it look like you weren't just trying to derail the mech plan.

i fairly disagree with that assessment but this is likely owed to a difference in playstyle/philosophy - to me, there just wasn't a whole lot to go on so far and assigning townreads based on that doesn't move the game forward much at all. the primary reason for this is it's very easy for mafia to fake townreads (because they can always be 'correct') and it's an easier environment for mafia to fit in (faking accusations on people you know are innocent is harder)

i also felt the game had gotten off to a bit of a slow start and discussion where people are simply giving lists of names without much in the way of elaboration or discussion doesn't really move the needle for me at all and preferred conversations i'd find more readable

Which reads are bizarre, exactly?

your whole list of townreads are names where i'm not really sure why or how you are townreading them based on their current content - srceenplay had almost no posts and what content there was was mostly RVS silliness so having a townread there is very ??? to me

Instead of discouraging town reads, you can ask people ABOUT their townreads to get the content you say you desire.

and instead of asking me about them, you simply just call them bizarre and move on until I call you out on it? Regardless, I have no good reasons for my list of 3, aside from that's how I felt when looking at the list of names.

the thing is i don't really like people throwing out lists of 3 names with not much else, i think that's not protown gameplay. you are free to disagree but i think it should be abundantly clear that this is something i believe that has nothign to do with my alignment, yeah? like it's not a scum tactic to come in disagreeing on how the game should be played, that's not what scum do.

and, like, i literally asked you about why you townread srceen and you ignored me, although it could go for any of them. but me talking to you about those reads is engaging you in the hopes that you'll actually elaborate on them? i'm sorry that i have to explain this? i feel like this is a fairly normal thing?

[DaughterOfOmega]

T-minus 10 minutes till my bladder feels like exploding from this lactose

[nutella]

And the lucy wagon take

[Scotty]

Could be mafia are content to just coast while town barks at each other.

Speaking of falcon..where is that bird brain

[Gira]

this doesn't feel like a no post cap game

Only half of the players are playing and half of the players playing are wearing pants on their heads.

grats on the rand i assume the back to back scumgames were not fun for you

[robyn]

how much should i trust the gira on nutella read

[Creature]

Yeah, the wagons in lucy and gira have been stinky and static and stoic and Scotty and oh there I am

I don't really feel this take at this stage of the game

ok
So I’m assuming Lucy’s lack of defending and placid state looks more damning on her at this point?

It means nothing for the current gamestate. You shouldn't be reading wagon movements at this point unless you can name one wolf on the lucy wagon and convince us to push them instead.

[robyn]

how much should i trust the nutella read from gira

[robyn]

how much should i trust the nutella read from gira

literate message now

[Scotty]

[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

Am I not the townie that lock wolf scotty was linking to his partner?

I'd like to hear some specifically yucky things that Scotty did.

That one post. With the "team" and 3p read. It wasn't good

What makes a good day 1 post if not baseless accusations and sharpshooting the team for funsies?

[nutella]

Yeah, the wagons in lucy and gira have been stinky and static and stoic and Scotty and oh there I am

I don't really feel this take at this stage of the game

ok
So I’m assuming Lucy’s lack of defending and placid state looks more damning on her at this point?

It means nothing for the current gamestate. You shouldn't be reading wagon movements at this point unless you can name one wolf on the lucy wagon and convince us to push them instead.

The dragon be spittin facts

[Creature]

This is probably the stupidest reason I’ve ever voted someone but like lol [VOTE: Creature] aubergine

I actually think this silly goofy little thing is somewhat >rand town though. Maybe not enough to outweigh the yucky things, but idk

I suspect wolf!Scotty could do that intentionally.

[Seanzie]

gotta agree with scotty here, i got insta wagoned and i've been the top wagon for the entire cycle

That doesn't say anything about your alignment. Only that all players seem undecided and three players who may or may not be town landed on you and didn't feel like changing. I saw wagons like this on wolf plenty of times.

yeah that's why scotty's followup was weird

like i can't even reverse engineer an argument about why it'd give any information about my alignment

I don't see a "scotty followup" from this post. What exactly are you talking about?

[Scotty]

i think the potential for forming a towncore with breaths is ~fine but discussion based solely on who you're townreading isn't as helpful because it's easier to blend in to. the game needs some amount of accusation and scumhunting to flow properly else it's too easy for people to fit in

i liked P#133 from S~V~S on my first pass of the game but beyond that not a whole lot jumped out to me

If it helps, I think this post is >rand!mafia.

hm, really, why's that?

IMO there wasn't actually any issue with people laying low by just giving townreads, so your post comes off as "I'm trying to look helpful, without actually really being helpful" (sometimes called CWAC). The last sentence looks like you felt like you needed to tack something on to make it look like you weren't just trying to derail the mech plan.

i fairly disagree with that assessment but this is likely owed to a difference in playstyle/philosophy - to me, there just wasn't a whole lot to go on so far and assigning townreads based on that doesn't move the game forward much at all. the primary reason for this is it's very easy for mafia to fake townreads (because they can always be 'correct') and it's an easier environment for mafia to fit in (faking accusations on people you know are innocent is harder)

i also felt the game had gotten off to a bit of a slow start and discussion where people are simply giving lists of names without much in the way of elaboration or discussion doesn't really move the needle for me at all and preferred conversations i'd find more readable

Which reads are bizarre, exactly?

your whole list of townreads are names where i'm not really sure why or how you are townreading them based on their current content - srceenplay had almost no posts and what content there was was mostly RVS silliness so having a townread there is very ??? to me

Instead of discouraging town reads, you can ask people ABOUT their townreads to get the content you say you desire.

and instead of asking me about them, you simply just call them bizarre and move on until I call you out on it? Regardless, I have no good reasons for my list of 3, aside from that's how I felt when looking at the list of names.

the thing is i don't really like people throwing out lists of 3 names with not much else, i think that's not protown gameplay. you are free to disagree but i think it should be abundantly clear that this is something i believe that has nothign to do with my alignment, yeah? like it's not a scum tactic to come in disagreeing on how the game should be played, that's not what scum do.

and, like, i literally asked you about why you townread srceen and you ignored me, although it could go for any of them. but me talking to you about those reads is engaging you in the hopes that you'll actually elaborate on them? i'm sorry that i have to explain this? i feel like this is a fairly normal thing?

Based on your first paragraph, what do you think of me, Gira?

[DaughterOfOmega]

People taking this game way too seriously, it's day one and nothing we do today really matters.

[robyn]

Yeah, the wagons in lucy and gira have been stinky and static and stoic and Scotty and oh there I am

I don't really feel this take at this stage of the game

ok
So I’m assuming Lucy’s lack of defending and placid state looks more damning on her at this point?

@Seanzie this

[nutella]

[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

Am I not the townie that lock wolf scotty was linking to his partner?

I'd like to hear some specifically yucky things that Scotty did.

That one post. With the "team" and 3p read. It wasn't good

What makes a good day 1 post if not baseless accusations and sharpshooting the team for funsies?

Not enough dril tweets or spaghetti western gifs

[Scotty]

This is probably the stupidest reason I’ve ever voted someone but like lol [VOTE: Creature] aubergine

I actually think this silly goofy little thing is somewhat >rand town though. Maybe not enough to outweigh the yucky things, but idk

I suspect wolf!Scotty could do that intentionally.

It’s true.

Because wolf Scotty does everything in his power to replicate town scotty.

You’re not gonna find a meta read on me

[Creature]

This is probably the stupidest reason I’ve ever voted someone but like lol [VOTE: Creature] aubergine

It is indeed a stupid reason. It should be obviously a typo.

Even typos can be Freudian slips

In my experience it's almost always just an NAI typo.

[robyn]

misssisiiplpipo

[Gira]

I kind of agree with the Gira wolf read though

tell me more

first suspicion of me that comes across as actually scummy

[Scotty]

Yeah, the wagons in lucy and gira have been stinky and static and stoic and Scotty and oh there I am

I don't really feel this take at this stage of the game

ok
So I’m assuming Lucy’s lack of defending and placid state looks more damning on her at this point?

It means nothing for the current gamestate. You shouldn't be reading wagon movements at this point unless you can name one wolf on the lucy wagon and convince us to push them instead.

Im more pushing to convince others to vote for someone not on the lucy wagon- someone not voting, actually

[Scotty]

People taking this game way too seriously, it's day one and nothing we do today really matters.

Give me your breath

[Gira]

Based on your first paragraph, what do you think of me, Gira?

you seem surface-level fine so far and the suspicion of sig was one i found acceptable (more on that when i catch up)

i don't have deeper thoughts on your alignment

[Scotty]

I can give you a tic tac if you want. Up to you

[Creature]

Could be mafia are content to just coast while town barks at each other.

Speaking of falcon..where is that bird brain

That's what I am trying to find out right now. If mafia decide to stay silent then I'll just eventually find other town and POE mafia out.

[robyn]

Yeah, the wagons in lucy and gira have been stinky and static and stoic and Scotty and oh there I am

I don't really feel this take at this stage of the game

ok
So I’m assuming Lucy’s lack of defending and placid state looks more damning on her at this point?

It means nothing for the current gamestate. You shouldn't be reading wagon movements at this point unless you can name one wolf on the lucy wagon and convince us to push them instead.

Im more pushing to convince others to vote for someone not on the lucy wagon- someone not voting, actually

i don't vote all that often btw, creature and someone else can probs confirm that

[DaughterOfOmega]

People taking this game way too seriously, it's day one and nothing we do today really matters.

Give me your breath

I've never kissed someone, and I don't plan on doing it now.

[Scotty]

Based on your first paragraph, what do you think of me, Gira?

you seem surface-level fine so far and the suspicion of sig was one i found acceptable (more on that when i catch up)

i don't have deeper thoughts on your alignment

I made a blanket 3 names that are bad without further explanation post. What do you think of them donuts

[Creature]

People taking this game way too seriously, it's day one and nothing we do today really matters.

Should at least try to find each other and hope the POE bleeds a wolf.

[robyn]

am i wrong or is creature obv town

[Creature]

Yeah, the wagons in lucy and gira have been stinky and static and stoic and Scotty and oh there I am

I don't really feel this take at this stage of the game

ok
So I’m assuming Lucy’s lack of defending and placid state looks more damning on her at this point?

It means nothing for the current gamestate. You shouldn't be reading wagon movements at this point unless you can name one wolf on the lucy wagon and convince us to push them instead.

Im more pushing to convince others to vote for someone not on the lucy wagon- someone not voting, actually

Bring up the alternatives then.

Saying static wagon = wagon on town without looking at the names on it is just lazy and pointless.

[Scotty]

Yeah, the wagons in lucy and gira have been stinky and static and stoic and Scotty and oh there I am

I don't really feel this take at this stage of the game

ok
So I’m assuming Lucy’s lack of defending and placid state looks more damning on her at this point?

It means nothing for the current gamestate. You shouldn't be reading wagon movements at this point unless you can name one wolf on the lucy wagon and convince us to push them instead.

Im more pushing to convince others to vote for someone not on the lucy wagon- someone not voting, actually

i don't vote all that often btw, creature and someone else can probs confirm that

NAI aside, you have been strangely pacifistic in your approach this game.

I have no idea who you suspect. All I got from you the past hour of talking is you either SR or TR me

[DaughterOfOmega]

am i wrong or is creature obv town

you arent wrong

[Seanzie]

gotta agree with scotty here, i got insta wagoned and i've been the top wagon for the entire cycle

That doesn't say anything about your alignment. Only that all players seem undecided and three players who may or may not be town landed on you and didn't feel like changing. I saw wagons like this on wolf plenty of times.

yeah that's why scotty's followup was weird

like i can't even reverse engineer an argument about why it'd give any information about my alignment

I don't see a "scotty followup" from this post. What exactly are you talking about?

Yeah, the wagons in lucy and gira have been stinky and static and stoic and Scotty and oh there I am

I don't really feel this take at this stage of the game

ok
So I’m assuming Lucy’s lack of defending and placid state looks more damning on her at this point?

@Seanzie this

I can easily reverse engineer many arguments about why it'd give information about your alignment.

[Gira]

So I realized that there is a glaring flaw in my mech plan, so let's scrap the whole "3 to BLAH, 3 to DEBLAH, 3 to BLAHDEBLAH".

However, it is good to try to funnel breaths all to the same place, so it'd still be good for people to give names of who they think should get breaths, and then I will likely select someone whose name shows up a lot to give my breath(s) to.

I already gave up my breathe but I'm not gonna say who it was too because that just makes them a target for mafia.

I haven't read the set up so feel free to tell me why this is a stupid thought.

All breaths are moved at EoD, meaning that if A targets B and B targets A, they just swap. This makes it so that if people have breaths after the "plan" was supposed to happen, we can't tell if they were 3p, mafia who just kept their breaths, or town that were handed breaths by mafia to complicate the whole mech plan.

It's still possible somethign could work since if we did choose 3 people who were all town, we could possibly reverse engineer who went off-script based on how many breaths they got, but yeah, it's trickier than I was originally thinking.

i do think the way seanzie has handled the plan is lausibly protown and something he'd be less likely to out as mafia, if e genuinely believe that idea was protown and was scum i think he probably keeps it to himself

[robyn]

neon/seanzie/sig/creature town

[robyn]

I can easily reverse engineer many arguments about why it'd give information about your alignment.

nice

[Scotty]

People taking this game way too seriously, it's day one and nothing we do today really matters.

Give me your breath

I've never kissed someone, and I don't plan on doing it now.

Oh no, no kidding. I’m married.

All ya gotta do is breathe. It’s like a root canal shot- quick and painless!

[robyn]

NAI aside, you have been strangely pacifistic in your approach this game.

I have no idea who you suspect. All I got from you the past hour of talking is you either SR or TR me

i agree, my levels of wim and give a fucks are comparably low

[Seanzie]

I can easily reverse engineer many arguments about why it'd give information about your alignment.

nice

And you want me to believe you're on my side?

[Gira]

Based on your first paragraph, what do you think of me, Gira?

you seem surface-level fine so far and the suspicion of sig was one i found acceptable (more on that when i catch up)

i don't have deeper thoughts on your alignment

I made a blanket 3 names that are bad without further explanation post. What do you think of them donuts

sometimes accusations without a case are useful

i'll have to try to read your mind and guess why you think those names are bad and see if i like the reasons

this might sound like i'm being flippant or sarcastic but i'm not, really

[Scotty]

Based on your first paragraph, what do you think of me, Gira?

you seem surface-level fine so far and the suspicion of sig was one i found acceptable (more on that when i catch up)

i don't have deeper thoughts on your alignment

I made a blanket 3 names that are bad without further explanation post. What do you think of them donuts

sometimes accusations without a case are useful

i'll have to try to read your mind and guess why you think those names are bad and see if i like the reasons

this might sound like i'm being flippant or sarcastic but i'm not, really

the thing is i don't really like people throwing out lists of 3 names with not much else, i think that's not protown gameplay.

I see