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I'm happy to report that Mac is STILL the only person in mafia who can accurately read me

In other news... where the fuck is Lucy.
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Neon wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:33 pm
Seanzie wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:32 pm
Neon wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:30 pm
Seanzie wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:03 pm @Neon aren't you curious about the "why?"?
No not really
Is it because you already know why?
Yes... but also no.
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Ugh, and I thought we were having fun.
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Neon wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:34 pm I'm happy to report that Mac is STILL the only person in mafia who can accurately read me

In other news... where the fuck is Lucy.
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Wolfy pop in
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Seanzie wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:35 pm
Neon wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:33 pm
Seanzie wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:32 pm
Neon wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:30 pm
Seanzie wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:03 pm @Neon aren't you curious about the "why?"?
No not really
Is it because you already know why?
Yes... but also no.
Why the "yes"?
Sarcasm
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Neon wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:42 pm
Seanzie wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:35 pm
Neon wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:33 pm
Seanzie wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:32 pm
Neon wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:30 pm
Seanzie wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:03 pm @Neon aren't you curious about the "why?"?
No not really
Is it because you already know why?
Yes... but also no.
Why the "yes"?
Sarcasm
Oooooorrrrr.....
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Like it is so clear that Neon doesn't suspect me.
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She is doing her best to stay placid through this exchange - if she suspected me, would she just sit here and let me do this? Nah... super nah man.
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I'lll still give someone a cookie for figuring out what I saw a while ago though, that's still on the table.
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I will definitely say that I find it perplexing that Pyxxy is clearing me when I voted Falcon an hour before EOD, but is voting for Doom who is much closer to cleared than I am by a Falcon vote. She was the first or second voter, iirc.
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S~V~S wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:49 pm I will definitely say that I find it perplexing that Pyxxy is clearing me when I voted Falcon an hour before EOD, but is voting for Doom who is much closer to cleared than I am by a Falcon vote. She was the first or second voter, iirc.
You should probably question Pyxxy about their lock!town read on you.

In the meantime, can you give a GTH read on Neon?
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I'd love to hear from people about my thoughts Re:Neon.

I think this is in the bag, but I am willing to entertain other thoughts.
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I'd also love to hear from people re: anything.
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@Neon do you still suspect me? Yes or no plz.
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Seanzie wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:44 pm Like it is so clear that Neon doesn't suspect me.
This is actually false lol I think the level 0 solve is you pyx Falcon I've thought that all night since I read eod over night.

That is the facts. It's Level 0 it's probably not that easy but right now it's the only world I really see
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Neon wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:09 pm
Seanzie wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:44 pm Like it is so clear that Neon doesn't suspect me.
This is actually false lol I think the level 0 solve is you pyx Falcon I've thought that all night since I read eod over night.

That is the facts. It's Level 0 it's probably not that easy but right now it's the only world I really see
Realtime with me. Can you do that? acknowledge yes relatively soon to say so.
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In case it isn't clear, all I'm asking you to do is post "yes" if you can commit to speaking with me more-or-less real time via this forum.
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No?
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@Neon Tell me about Pyxxy.
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Re: Cosmere Mafia - Warbreaker - [Day 2]

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Because like there's no way Scotty had no wolves on them... unless they are also wolf and we had w/w wagons D1 which feels unlikely

I know I'm town.

I think Lucy is town... mostly.

Falcons role is the most important... so I find a full bus unlikely... but like than the VC was so lopsided I don't even know.

Pyxxy is playing like I'd be playing if I was a wolf and my teams most powerful role went and fed D1.

I don't know fuck this game its not possibly that easy but I want it to be.

Anyways like Gira Doom Scotty Lucy are my town reads for now. I don't fucking know.
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Seanzie wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:10 pm
Neon wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:09 pm
Seanzie wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:44 pm Like it is so clear that Neon doesn't suspect me.
This is actually false lol I think the level 0 solve is you pyx Falcon I've thought that all night since I read eod over night.

That is the facts. It's Level 0 it's probably not that easy but right now it's the only world I really see
Realtime with me. Can you do that? acknowledge yes relatively soon to say so.
I have to go to sleep so I can go to work tonight so like unfortunately no
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I'll be on and off all night but I can't real time and I'm leaving now for at least the next like 4 hours.
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@Neon do you still suspect me? yes or no?
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sig wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 5:49 pm Neon, pyxxy, Seanzie, lucy


Someone among these four are mafia
maybe 2?
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srceenplay wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:24 pm
sig wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 5:49 pm Neon, pyxxy, Seanzie, lucy


Someone among these four are mafia
maybe 2?
Tell me more.
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After reading Neon's ISO, she is actually probably most like 3p, but still possibly mafia. Either way, kill this slot piz.
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Seanzie wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:23 pm
srceenplay wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 5:27 pm
Scotty wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 5:25 pm Falcon wasn’t even my first choice today as I’ve stated. But he isn’t doing himself any favors
Sounds like TMI like you know their flip but dont want blamed
Sounds like TMI like you know their flip and want to tie Scotty to them.
How is coming to that conclusion possible?
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FDU FDU FDU
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Somehow I'm outposting Neon (this should be a huge indication that something weird is going on), and her posts are all one liners, mostly not about the game.
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srceenplay wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:30 pm
Seanzie wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:23 pm
srceenplay wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 5:27 pm
Scotty wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 5:25 pm Falcon wasn’t even my first choice today as I’ve stated. But he isn’t doing himself any favors
Sounds like TMI like you know their flip but dont want blamed
Sounds like TMI like you know their flip and want to tie Scotty to them.
How is coming to that conclusion possible?
If you were wolf, would you not want to make Scotty look like they're Falcon's partner?
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Gira wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:30 pm FDU FDU FDU
Well FdU to you to.
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Seanzie wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:27 pm
srceenplay wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:24 pm
sig wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 5:49 pm Neon, pyxxy, Seanzie, lucy


Someone among these four are mafia
maybe 2?
Tell me more.
Almost caught up and going to vote you before I dip
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srceenplay wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:38 pm
Seanzie wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:27 pm
srceenplay wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:24 pm
sig wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 5:49 pm Neon, pyxxy, Seanzie, lucy


Someone among these four are mafia
maybe 2?
Tell me more.
Almost caught up and going to vote you before I dip
Tell me more - again. You've told me nothing thus far.
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Seanzie wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:31 pm
srceenplay wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:30 pm
Seanzie wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:23 pm
srceenplay wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 5:27 pm
Scotty wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 5:25 pm Falcon wasn’t even my first choice today as I’ve stated. But he isn’t doing himself any favors
Sounds like TMI like you know their flip but dont want blamed
Sounds like TMI like you know their flip and want to tie Scotty to them.
How is coming to that conclusion possible?
If you were wolf, would you not want to make Scotty look like they're Falcon's partner?
Yes as wolf you would want to create doubt.

The only doubt there was me and my thinking. That was if falcon flips town Scot was setting up an excuse.
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Speaking of doubt. that is all you are trying to do so far this day and if I remember right yesterday as well.
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[VOTE: Sean] aubergine
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srceenplay wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:41 pm
Seanzie wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:31 pm
srceenplay wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:30 pm
Seanzie wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:23 pm
srceenplay wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 5:27 pm
Scotty wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 5:25 pm Falcon wasn’t even my first choice today as I’ve stated. But he isn’t doing himself any favors
Sounds like TMI like you know their flip but dont want blamed
Sounds like TMI like you know their flip and want to tie Scotty to them.
How is coming to that conclusion possible?
If you were wolf, would you not want to make Scotty look like they're Falcon's partner?
Yes as wolf you would want to create doubt.

The only doubt there was me and my thinking. That was if falcon flips town Scot was setting up an excuse.
Seems like you had no trouble coming to the conclusion. Then why were you shading me about it?
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Re: Cosmere Mafia - Warbreaker - [Day 2]

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srceenplay wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:43 pm [VOTE: Sean] aubergine
Lolz, I'm so town that you actually probably have to be town to be voting me.
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Screenplay, what do you think about Neon?
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Seanzie wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:47 pm Screenplay, what do you think about Neon?
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If anyone is around, I'd love to realtime with them about Neon.
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Re: Cosmere Mafia - Warbreaker - [Day 2]

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S~V~S wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:11 pm
Neon wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:53 pm
S~V~S wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:43 pm
Seanzie wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:38 pm
S~V~S wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:37 pm
Seanzie wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:30 pm
pyxxy wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 5:38 pm Nutella lock town [ed note: rip], SVS lock town, Creature looks good, Scotty looks good

my bracket remains relatively intact but I need UConn to pull through

(sorry Scotty got lost in the madness)
Here it is. Explain SVS lock-town plz.
I'm not locktown. I voted about 4:30 when I left work because I wasn't sure if I'd be home before EOD. I don't think I'm locked in just because I voted for Falcon, although I think it's a good look :grin:
How do you feel about Pyxxy putting you as lock-town then?
I tend to think people do that to buddy up to people. I tend to put less stock in town reading than alot of the newer players, though. Like I saw recently someone say, "Well X is townlock becasue Y said they had this info, and Z said they had this other info". And afaik, no one is townlock unless it's info from a host post, since players can and do lie. So :shrug:
This is...I just don't understand lol
Why not? I think I was clear.

Someone says they have info, and people just believe them. No one should be lock town unless you personally have info. I think saying someone is locktown based on anything other than info one personally got themselves from the host is way overdone.

I think Pyxxy calling me locktown is ridiculous. But in GOC baddie Marmot was locktowned by a townie for equally invalid reasons.

Everyone throws this word around like it means something, but it doesn’t.
S~V~S wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:39 pm I do think her vote clears Doom, though.
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not screaming like the people in his car
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Re: Cosmere Mafia - Warbreaker - [Day 2]

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Seanzie wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:50 pm If anyone is around, I'd love to realtime with them about Neon.
Im a page behind where you start asking for cookies
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Re: Cosmere Mafia - Warbreaker - [Day 2]

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Scotty wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:51 pm
Seanzie wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:50 pm If anyone is around, I'd love to realtime with them about Neon.
Im a page behind where you start asking for cookies
oh, you were giving cookies

Im asking for cookies because I’m hungry
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Scotty wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:51 pm
Seanzie wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:50 pm If anyone is around, I'd love to realtime with them about Neon.
Im a page behind where you start asking for cookies
I'd love to realtime with you, so get caught up plz.
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Seanzie wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:26 pm Seriously, no one has asked me "why?" yet, and that makes me sad.
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Scotty wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:51 pm
S~V~S wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:11 pm
Neon wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:53 pm
S~V~S wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:43 pm
Seanzie wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:38 pm
S~V~S wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:37 pm
Seanzie wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:30 pm

Here it is. Explain SVS lock-town plz.
I'm not locktown. I voted about 4:30 when I left work because I wasn't sure if I'd be home before EOD. I don't think I'm locked in just because I voted for Falcon, although I think it's a good look :grin:
How do you feel about Pyxxy putting you as lock-town then?
I tend to think people do that to buddy up to people. I tend to put less stock in town reading than alot of the newer players, though. Like I saw recently someone say, "Well X is townlock becasue Y said they had this info, and Z said they had this other info". And afaik, no one is townlock unless it's info from a host post, since players can and do lie. So :shrug:
This is...I just don't understand lol
Why not? I think I was clear.

Someone says they have info, and people just believe them. No one should be lock town unless you personally have info. I think saying someone is locktown based on anything other than info one personally got themselves from the host is way overdone.

I think Pyxxy calling me locktown is ridiculous. But in GOC baddie Marmot was locktowned by a townie for equally invalid reasons.

Everyone throws this word around like it means something, but it doesn’t.
S~V~S wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:39 pm I do think her vote clears Doom, though.
:ponder:
This is a -2 post from Scotty. I hope he is able to catch up and realtime with me.
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Re: Cosmere Mafia - Warbreaker - [Day 2]

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Seanzie wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:46 pm I'lll still give someone a cookie for figuring out what I saw a while ago though, that's still on the table.
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Scotty wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:53 pm
Seanzie wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:26 pm Seriously, no one has asked me "why?" yet, and that makes me sad.
Where
Good joke, but do you also care about the game?
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