[END] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game

[miranda920]

So I did a quick iso of Nate and marmot since that seemed to be a place of some discussion

I don’t feel strongly about marmot, I lean town there
Nate doesn’t seem particularly wolfy, but the seemingly random vote for Dennis was a little weird

I don’t think they’re paired
I’d say Nate seems less town than marmot IMO

I’m going to look into creature and falcon next

[Zenge]

I'm having a hard time reading genny when she hasn't really been here. Mayo I find hard to read generally.
I think overall Miranda has been noobier vs wolfy but she hasn't been overtly town either.
But also I'm kinda just talking out of my ass. I really don't know.

No I think all of that is fair

[potentialsheltervet]

I wish that Zenge and Nega Lumi were voting for an SDN player and not a syndicate miselim bait so I could just sheep them.

Sometimes sketchy players also rand scum tho.

How do you feel about my SDN reads list? I'm having trouble getting your reads outside of falcon and maybe Sloonei

[potentialsheltervet]

So I did a quick iso of Nate and marmot since that seemed to be a place of some discussion

I don’t feel strongly about marmot, I lean town there
Nate doesn’t seem particularly wolfy, but the seemingly random vote for Dennis was a little weird

I don’t think they’re paired
I’d say Nate seems less town than marmot IMO

I’m going to look into creature and falcon next

I'm confused where you're getting the town lean on marmot?
Nate just feels like Nate to me.

[potentialsheltervet]

I think gth if I had to vote an SDNer right this moment I'd hit mayo. I don't feel the same solvey energy he had going last game.

[MacDougall]

I ... kinda think the wolves are majority syndicators for some reason.

Like... the two night kills being SDNers feels like it's supposed to look like kills TSers don't make.

The game is being led by the collar by SDNers. Importantly I'm finding like none of the Syndicators all that towny.

[Zenge]

I wish that Zenge and Nega Lumi were voting for an SDN player and not a syndicate miselim bait so I could just sheep them.

Sometimes sketchy players also rand scum tho.

How do you feel about my SDN reads list? I'm having trouble getting your reads outside of falcon and maybe Sloonei

These are my general feels on everyone

Spoiler: show

Creature -Probably Town
Dennis -Scum side of neutral
DrWilgy -Neutral
@dyachei/Lawper -Village
falcon45ca - Must be destroyed
genny -not a clue
Kate/Mac- village side of neutral
Marmot - neutral
Mayo the Mayo- scum side of neutral
mightyrunner7 - village
miranda920 - scum side of neutral
NateTheLesser - scummy
Neon - village side of neutral
potentialsheltervet - village
S~V~S -neutral
santygrass - probably town
SARdoghandler -probably town
Seanzie - no idea. Could go either way.
Sloonei -not feeling good about this

[MacDougall]

The thing is that Dennis and Falcon are probably the two syndicators that are most in their town meta. Sloonei also seems okay. The rest are off to me. Like all of the rest.

[potentialsheltervet]

I wish that Zenge and Nega Lumi were voting for an SDN player and not a syndicate miselim bait so I could just sheep them.

Sometimes sketchy players also rand scum tho.

How do you feel about my SDN reads list? I'm having trouble getting your reads outside of falcon and maybe Sloonei

These are my general feels on everyone

Spoiler: show

Creature -Probably Town
Dennis -Scum side of neutral
DrWilgy -Neutral
@dyachei/Lawper -Village
falcon45ca - Must be destroyed
genny -not a clue
Kate/Mac- village side of neutral
Marmot - neutral
Mayo the Mayo- scum side of neutral
mightyrunner7 - village
miranda920 - scum side of neutral
NateTheLesser - scummy
Neon - village side of neutral
potentialsheltervet - village
S~V~S -neutral
santygrass - probably town
SARdoghandler -probably town
Seanzie - no idea. Could go either way.
Sloonei -not feeling good about this

Really? Tell me more about Nate.

[miranda920]

Okay, from what I can see there is not a lot that Creature has input into the game so far

They voted for me early on last day cycle because they were least impressed by me, but I don’t think they’ve done anything remarkable either…
Does that necessarily mean scum? Possibly.

It seems like they might just be busy with RL, which same, so if that is the case I don’t want to go there right now because I can relate to that

[potentialsheltervet]

I ... kinda think the wolves are majority syndicators for some reason.

Like... the two night kills being SDNers feels like it's supposed to look like kills TSers don't make.

The game is being led by the collar by SDNers. Importantly I'm finding like none of the Syndicators all that towny.

Why do you say two night kills here?

[miranda920]

So I did a quick iso of Nate and marmot since that seemed to be a place of some discussion

I don’t feel strongly about marmot, I lean town there
Nate doesn’t seem particularly wolfy, but the seemingly random vote for Dennis was a little weird

I don’t think they’re paired
I’d say Nate seems less town than marmot IMO

I’m going to look into creature and falcon next

I'm confused where you're getting the town lean on marmot?
Nate just feels like Nate to me.

Nothing that marmot has said has felt wolfy to me, you don’t have to agree with me

[Zenge]

I wish that Zenge and Nega Lumi were voting for an SDN player and not a syndicate miselim bait so I could just sheep them.

Sometimes sketchy players also rand scum tho.

How do you feel about my SDN reads list? I'm having trouble getting your reads outside of falcon and maybe Sloonei

These are my general feels on everyone

Spoiler: show

Creature -Probably Town
Dennis -Scum side of neutral
DrWilgy -Neutral
@dyachei/Lawper -Village
falcon45ca - Must be destroyed
genny -not a clue
Kate/Mac- village side of neutral
Marmot - neutral
Mayo the Mayo- scum side of neutral
mightyrunner7 - village
miranda920 - scum side of neutral
NateTheLesser - scummy
Neon - village side of neutral
potentialsheltervet - village
S~V~S -neutral
santygrass - probably town
SARdoghandler -probably town
Seanzie - no idea. Could go either way.
Sloonei -not feeling good about this

Really? Tell me more about Nate.

I just don’t feel great about Nate’s contributions so far. I’m not ready to vote there per se. (I’m not moving my vote regardless) but on the whole I haven’t felt great about him this game.

The counter argument is that I’ve felt not great about village Nate before too so it’s not like he’s lock scum.

[MacDougall]

I ... kinda think the wolves are majority syndicators for some reason.

Like... the two night kills being SDNers feels like it's supposed to look like kills TSers don't make.

The game is being led by the collar by SDNers. Importantly I'm finding like none of the Syndicators all that towny.

Why do you say two night kills here?

It seems very obvious Pyxxy was vigged and the other two were mafia kills. AM was solving really well and the other one was a top poster. Pyxxy was heavily sussed.

[Zenge]

I wish that Zenge and Nega Lumi were voting for an SDN player and not a syndicate miselim bait so I could just sheep them.

Sometimes sketchy players also rand scum tho.

How do you feel about my SDN reads list? I'm having trouble getting your reads outside of falcon and maybe Sloonei

These are my general feels on everyone

Spoiler: show

Creature -Probably Town
Dennis -Scum side of neutral
DrWilgy -Neutral
@dyachei/Lawper -Village
falcon45ca - Must be destroyed
genny -not a clue
Kate/Mac- village side of neutral
Marmot - neutral
Mayo the Mayo- scum side of neutral
mightyrunner7 - village
miranda920 - scum side of neutral
NateTheLesser - scummy
Neon - village side of neutral
potentialsheltervet - village
S~V~S -neutral
santygrass - probably town
SARdoghandler -probably town
Seanzie - no idea. Could go either way.
Sloonei -not feeling good about this

Really? Tell me more about Nate.

But also as for the rest of it, you know me though. My reads change like the wind sometimes

[MacDougall]

I ... kinda think the wolves are majority syndicators for some reason.

Like... the two night kills being SDNers feels like it's supposed to look like kills TSers don't make.

The game is being led by the collar by SDNers. Importantly I'm finding like none of the Syndicators all that towny.

Why do you say two night kills here?

Is this really a point of contention? It feels kinda weird you're even questioning it.

[potentialsheltervet]

I ... kinda think the wolves are majority syndicators for some reason.

Like... the two night kills being SDNers feels like it's supposed to look like kills TSers don't make.

The game is being led by the collar by SDNers. Importantly I'm finding like none of the Syndicators all that towny.

Why do you say two night kills here?

It seems very obvious Pyxxy was vigged and the other two were mafia kills. AM was solving really well and the other one was a top poster. Pyxxy was heavily sussed.

I was just surprised by the confidence with which you declared this when most people have been referring to the three kills.

[MacDougall]

I wish that Zenge and Nega Lumi were voting for an SDN player and not a syndicate miselim bait so I could just sheep them.

Sometimes sketchy players also rand scum tho.

How do you feel about my SDN reads list? I'm having trouble getting your reads outside of falcon and maybe Sloonei

These are my general feels on everyone

Spoiler: show

Creature -Probably Town
Dennis -Scum side of neutral
DrWilgy -Neutral
@dyachei/Lawper -Village
falcon45ca - Must be destroyed
genny -not a clue
Kate/Mac- village side of neutral
Marmot - neutral
Mayo the Mayo- scum side of neutral
mightyrunner7 - village
miranda920 - scum side of neutral
NateTheLesser - scummy
Neon - village side of neutral
potentialsheltervet - village
S~V~S -neutral
santygrass - probably town
SARdoghandler -probably town
Seanzie - no idea. Could go either way.
Sloonei -not feeling good about this

Really? Tell me more about Nate.

I just don’t feel great about Nate’s contributions so far. I’m not ready to vote there per se. (I’m not moving my vote regardless) but on the whole I haven’t felt great about him this game.

The counter argument is that I’ve felt not great about village Nate before too so it’s not like he’s lock scum.

Given Dennis appears to be his normal town self I think that a mafia team who choose to kill Animal Midwife n1, in a world where Dennis is town, always do so with the awareness that it makes Dennis look bad and intent to push him off it. I think Nate did that and I think his explanations to me were quite bad. Nothing he justified the vote with were even scummy.

[MacDougall]

I ... kinda think the wolves are majority syndicators for some reason.

Like... the two night kills being SDNers feels like it's supposed to look like kills TSers don't make.

The game is being led by the collar by SDNers. Importantly I'm finding like none of the Syndicators all that towny.

Why do you say two night kills here?

It seems very obvious Pyxxy was vigged and the other two were mafia kills. AM was solving really well and the other one was a top poster. Pyxxy was heavily sussed.

I was just surprised by the confidence with which you declared this when most people have been referring to the three kills.

Given I only came in day 2 the first thing I looked at were the kills and the players who died. It seems highly unlikely town shoots Sporty and AM and mafia shoots Pyxxy. Unless we are playing multiball which I don't have any reason to assume. So in terms of assessing the gamestate of NKs I'm looking at Sporty and AM as the kill choices this team has made.

[MacDougall]

Of course Dennis might just be mafia.

[MacDougall]

I wish that Zenge and Nega Lumi were voting for an SDN player and not a syndicate miselim bait so I could just sheep them.

Sometimes sketchy players also rand scum tho.

How do you feel about my SDN reads list? I'm having trouble getting your reads outside of falcon and maybe Sloonei

These are my general feels on everyone

Spoiler: show

Creature -Probably Town
Dennis -Scum side of neutral
DrWilgy -Neutral
@dyachei/Lawper -Village
falcon45ca - Must be destroyed
genny -not a clue
Kate/Mac- village side of neutral
Marmot - neutral
Mayo the Mayo- scum side of neutral
mightyrunner7 - village
miranda920 - scum side of neutral
NateTheLesser - scummy
Neon - village side of neutral
potentialsheltervet - village
S~V~S -neutral
santygrass - probably town
SARdoghandler -probably town
Seanzie - no idea. Could go either way.
Sloonei -not feeling good about this

Really? Tell me more about Nate.

I just don’t feel great about Nate’s contributions so far. I’m not ready to vote there per se. (I’m not moving my vote regardless) but on the whole I haven’t felt great about him this game.

The counter argument is that I’ve felt not great about village Nate before too so it’s not like he’s lock scum.

Given Dennis appears to be his normal town self I think that a mafia team who choose to kill Animal Midwife n1, in a world where Dennis is town, always do so with the awareness that it makes Dennis look bad and intent to push him off it. I think Nate did that and I think his explanations to me were quite bad. Nothing he justified the vote with were even scummy.

@Dennis what are your thoughts on @NateTheLesser pushing you?

[potentialsheltervet]

I ... kinda think the wolves are majority syndicators for some reason.

Like... the two night kills being SDNers feels like it's supposed to look like kills TSers don't make.

The game is being led by the collar by SDNers. Importantly I'm finding like none of the Syndicators all that towny.

Why do you say two night kills here?

It seems very obvious Pyxxy was vigged and the other two were mafia kills. AM was solving really well and the other one was a top poster. Pyxxy was heavily sussed.

I was just surprised by the confidence with which you declared this when most people have been referring to the three kills.

Given I only came in day 2 the first thing I looked at were the kills and the players who died. It seems highly unlikely town shoots Sporty and AM and mafia shoots Pyxxy. Unless we are playing multiball which I don't have any reason to assume. So in terms of assessing the gamestate of NKs I'm looking at Sporty and AM as the kill choices this team has made.

The opening post states there are more than just mafia and town. Idk what that typically means on this site

[MacDougall]

I ... kinda think the wolves are majority syndicators for some reason.

Like... the two night kills being SDNers feels like it's supposed to look like kills TSers don't make.

The game is being led by the collar by SDNers. Importantly I'm finding like none of the Syndicators all that towny.

Why do you say two night kills here?

It seems very obvious Pyxxy was vigged and the other two were mafia kills. AM was solving really well and the other one was a top poster. Pyxxy was heavily sussed.

I was just surprised by the confidence with which you declared this when most people have been referring to the three kills.

Given I only came in day 2 the first thing I looked at were the kills and the players who died. It seems highly unlikely town shoots Sporty and AM and mafia shoots Pyxxy. Unless we are playing multiball which I don't have any reason to assume. So in terms of assessing the gamestate of NKs I'm looking at Sporty and AM as the kill choices this team has made.

The opening post states there are more than just mafia and town. Idk what that typically means on this site

Yeah probably means there are 3ps. I'd guess at least a small 3p faction. Whether they have KP or not is anyone's guess.

I still think Pyxxy is likely a town shot and the other two aren't.

[Dennis]

[VOTE: SARdoghandler] aubergine

Why

[Sloonei]

SARdog, mighty, and Mayo are the three SDNers I feel I have the least grasp on relative to their contributions. I know that they've all been here, but I don't have a clear handle on what any of them have done. mighty's posting curse is not helping this matter today, unfortunately.

[potentialsheltervet]

SARdog, mighty, and Mayo are the three SDNers I feel I have the least grasp on relative to their contributions. I know that they've all been here, but I don't have a clear handle on what any of them have done. mighty's posting curse is not helping this matter today, unfortunately.

Of the three, I feel best about SAR. I think she is within her village meta. mighty is hard for me to read and I did not catch him wolfing last game we played together; however, I've thought he's sounded... Okay. I've joked before about the way he types. He just sounds like he's run everything through Google translate four times, frankly.
And mayo I think does sound wolfy.

[MacDougall]

SARdog, mighty, and Mayo are the three SDNers I feel I have the least grasp on relative to their contributions. I know that they've all been here, but I don't have a clear handle on what any of them have done. mighty's posting curse is not helping this matter today, unfortunately.

I don't think Mightyrunner was towny at all on day 1 and am curious why Nega Lumi is townreading them.

What do you think of Marmot and Seanzie?

[genny]

I ... kinda think the wolves are majority syndicators for some reason.

Like... the two night kills being SDNers feels like it's supposed to look like kills TSers don't make.

The game is being led by the collar by SDNers. Importantly I'm finding like none of the Syndicators all that towny.

Why do you say two night kills here?

i found this weird too. like tmi?

[Sloonei]

SARdog, mighty, and Mayo are the three SDNers I feel I have the least grasp on relative to their contributions. I know that they've all been here, but I don't have a clear handle on what any of them have done. mighty's posting curse is not helping this matter today, unfortunately.

I don't think Mightyrunner was towny at all on day 1 and am curious why Nega Lumi is townreading them.

What do you think of Marmot and Seanzie?

Marmot is a suspect. My vote is on them and I encourage people to investigate the rodent.

I got a mild town ping early on Day 1 from Seanzie, but I have had no strong impressions from him since then.

[Dennis]

Sometimes sketchy players also rand scum tho.

How do you feel about my SDN reads list? I'm having trouble getting your reads outside of falcon and maybe Sloonei

These are my general feels on everyone

Spoiler: show

Creature -Probably Town
Dennis -Scum side of neutral
DrWilgy -Neutral
@dyachei/Lawper -Village
falcon45ca - Must be destroyed
genny -not a clue
Kate/Mac- village side of neutral
Marmot - neutral
Mayo the Mayo- scum side of neutral
mightyrunner7 - village
miranda920 - scum side of neutral
NateTheLesser - scummy
Neon - village side of neutral
potentialsheltervet - village
S~V~S -neutral
santygrass - probably town
SARdoghandler -probably town
Seanzie - no idea. Could go either way.
Sloonei -not feeling good about this

Really? Tell me more about Nate.

I just don’t feel great about Nate’s contributions so far. I’m not ready to vote there per se. (I’m not moving my vote regardless) but on the whole I haven’t felt great about him this game.

The counter argument is that I’ve felt not great about village Nate before too so it’s not like he’s lock scum.

Given Dennis appears to be his normal town self I think that a mafia team who choose to kill Animal Midwife n1, in a world where Dennis is town, always do so with the awareness that it makes Dennis look bad and intent to push him off it. I think Nate did that and I think his explanations to me were quite bad. Nothing he justified the vote with were even scummy.

@Dennis what are your thoughts on @NateTheLesser pushing you?

Well at first I was kinda where you are with the whole "that was kinda clearly a setup" but then I realized the broadcast was nate and I'm a bit conflicted now, because the notes all were lining up with the push

To be fair, I didn't really read through them and just looked for my name but all of the points in that were exactly what he brought up in thread later

[Sloonei]

I have voted Marmot both days for two separate reasons.

Day was this post:

Sloonei is prodding in random places, which while I don't think is hard town meta for him to replicate, it does look like his town meta, so I would give him a townlean for now.

At the time, I had made exactly one post that could reasonably be classified as "prodding" in a game-relevant sense. I did not feel like I had earned this read from Marmot.

I am currently voting Marmot again because of their handling of the Scotty/Creature wagons on Day 1. I did not feel like Marmot's posts looked like a person/rodent who was earnestly trying to find a suspect. Instead, it looked like somebody who just wanted to have a justification for placing a vote.

[potentialsheltervet]

I ... kinda think the wolves are majority syndicators for some reason.

Like... the two night kills being SDNers feels like it's supposed to look like kills TSers don't make.

The game is being led by the collar by SDNers. Importantly I'm finding like none of the Syndicators all that towny.

Why do you say two night kills here?

i found this weird too. like tmi?

Ehhhh maybe, but I haven't really gotten scum vibes from Macca overall. I was moreso asking genuinely.

[Sloonei]

I am digging Mac's energy so far.

[Dennis]

Why tf did I have such little to say about those two pages

@Kate I blame you

[MacDougall]

I ... kinda think the wolves are majority syndicators for some reason.

Like... the two night kills being SDNers feels like it's supposed to look like kills TSers don't make.

The game is being led by the collar by SDNers. Importantly I'm finding like none of the Syndicators all that towny.

Why do you say two night kills here?

i found this weird too. like tmi?

Really?

[potentialsheltervet]

Why tf did I have such little to say about those two pages

@Kate I blame you

I don't understand this post

[potentialsheltervet]

Also @genny do you have anything else to comment on?

[Dennis]

Actually Miranda's push on santy gave me a

Multiple people said that it was NAI for them to go absent, but then miranda sussed santy for it, and then seemed to change their mind when shut down??

[potentialsheltervet]

I'm surprised you aren't remarking on me scum leaning you tbh. No snarky comments?

[Dennis]

Why tf did I have such little to say about those two pages

@Kate I blame you

I don't understand this post

'Tis a shenganigan

[Sloonei]

Why tf did I have such little to say about those two pages

@Kate I blame you

Wanna take a look at the Scotty votes and tell me what you see?

[Dennis]

Only one.

[Lawpy]

Hey everyone, I’m Lawpy and i’m currently in the midst of catching up

Also Neons did i play with you before elsewhere? I don’t know if you’re the same Neons i played with when i subbed into Fext’s game

[potentialsheltervet]

Hey everyone, I’m Lawpy and i’m currently in the midst of catching up

Also Neons did i play with you before elsewhere? I don’t know if you’re the same Neons i played with when i subbed into Fext’s game

Hi Lawpy. I don't think we've played together before. I'm Nega Lumi

[Sloonei]

Hey everyone, I’m Lawpy and i’m currently in the midst of catching up

Also Neons did i play with you before elsewhere? I don’t know if you’re the same Neons i played with when i subbed into Fext’s game

Hello and welcome, Lawpy. While you catch up, would you mind telling the class a little about yourself?

[Dennis]

Why tf did I have such little to say about those two pages

@Kate I blame you

Wanna take a look at the Scotty votes and tell me what you see?

Not really, but I'll do it anyways cause I've kinda slanked thus far

[santygrass]

Well, my Scotty suspicions were totally off. Maybe I should've just sheeped Zenge.
I do think AM dying could be taken as a knock against Santy since historically she reads him well and he's been worried about her after they wolfed together but I'd prefer not to vote him until he at least returns to the thread and I can challenge him proper.
For now, [VOTE: FALCON] aubergine

This is a HUGE , BLATANT lie that I am taking issue because it doesnt make any sense and you here believing that like what ???

I never in any game expressed concern about AM lol

Lmao yes you did. There was a game after WWatch where you said you'd be a little concerned because she has insight on how you wolf after you wolfed with her.

Either I was joking or you misinterpreted me lmao. I am the designated Samac n1 killer and not the Designated AM killer for something .

Still this feels like such a huge stretch for you to make that just honestly makes me impressed because it honestly takes me by surprise

[santygrass]

Lawpy GOAT

Tho I am sad about not playing with dya more. One potential plan was to sheep them if Villa and have no Independent thoughts whatsoever.

Guess I'll have to sheep Mac now

[santygrass]

MacDougall is playing villagery btw.

The read/sentiment of wolves being more Syndicatery feels like V!Mac read to me. Plus with the ignoring falcon as a misyeet bait aswell.

[santygrass]

To clarify to my fellow SDN people, this isnt my first game with Mac. We have played some, and they are a GOAT.

I think if they are town, they will be obvtown indeed, and probably be killed early.
As scum, I think they know how to kill town harmony in a way, I have present last game we played where he was such a Chaos gremlin istg. Tho disclaimer he has a clashing playstyle still and sometimes makes crazy reads, but the overall focus is what matters?

So maybe I'm being pocketed but all of Mac vibes and reads rn strike me as villa.