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[Zenge]

Why is @Neon voting Dennis?

Because Neon typed Dennis between the vote brackets

[tutuu]

You're in a tunnel SVS. I won't pursue this conversation any further because I don't think it's a good use of my time or the thread's tim

u two are literally rehashing goc lmao watch u both be wolves

anyway

@Marmot id like to express one last reservation i have with one of your posts, if i may

your gut reaction was to kill me with fire due to me sheeping sloonei and mac on u being mafia. soon after that u changed ur mind

still, i find that odd, u (probably) knew i subbed in very recently and the game is midway thru day 2

so even if it was for a little while, please, could you explain to me in full detail your thought process behind thinking im scum for sheeping "at this stage of the game"

like, what was going on in your head? it will help me a lot if its detailed, please

[santygrass]

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Let"s help marmot bus

[Marmot]

Well I don't think Mayo and PSV are partnered, because now would be a weird time to call them out on it and put them under fire.

[Lawpy]

Of course Dennis might just be mafia.

I think Dennis is scum for a really really really dumb reason lol

Explain freshly

[Lawpy]

I definitely think mayos should be discussed:

[VOTE: Mayos] aubergine

[tutuu]

Did tutuu sub in? I went to go add them to my village lean pile but don't have them on my sheet. Who do I need to take off?

Wilgy.

SVS and DrTutuu are not partnered.

is that it? only not partnered? u cant find me as town yet? despite never seeing my scum game and not having the fear?

sorry if this is a bit egotistical but could u explain why?

im asking u specifically because i think syndicators who have a decent experience with me and never seen me wolf should find me as obv town insta

mac has the paranoia of my scumgame but even despite that he instantly found me here

[Marmot]

You're in a tunnel SVS. I won't pursue this conversation any further because I don't think it's a good use of my time or the thread's tim

u two are literally rehashing goc lmao watch u both be wolves

anyway

@Marmot id like to express one last reservation i have with one of your posts, if i may

your gut reaction was to kill me with fire due to me sheeping sloonei and mac on u being mafia. soon after that u changed ur mind

still, i find that odd, u (probably) knew i subbed in very recently and the game is midway thru day 2

so even if it was for a little while, please, could you explain to me in full detail your thought process behind thinking im scum for sheeping "at this stage of the game"

like, what was going on in your head? it will help me a lot if its detailed, please

I saw that you had 74 posts, which to me meant you had posted plenty of content and were invested. Also, I'm not entirely sure why, but you sheeping someone else's vote just seemed surprising to me.

If you had like 10 posts and were sheeping, I wouldn't have thought anything of it.

But then I did some research and the reasoning made a little more sense.

[NateTheLesser]

@Marmot , Also voting for Creature, meh. Suspecting Creature before switching off him and never looking back, meh.

We all voted all over each other in GOC. I won't clear anyone I was teammates with in that game for suspecting, then unsuspecting, or voting, then unvoting someone. As I would expect you should never clear me for it. We all got Greyhound top passenger miles for that game, lol.

Also, your reasons were proven bullshit when you backed off Creature becasue he had time restraints, then when he came back, you stayed off of him. And I expanded the time frame becasue YOU were quibbling about the last five minutes. It was longer than that, and you replied to both of them towards EOD.

I think you had TMI on Creatures time issues, and used it as an excuse. I call shenanigans, my rodent friend.

I really don't think it was TMI, I took dya's comments at the time to mean that Creature was busy with another game but she didn't want to angleshoot. So I don't think it's sus if Marmot interpreted it the same way.

[tutuu]

I saw that you had 74 posts, which to me meant you had posted plenty of content and were invested. Also, I'm not entirely sure why, but you sheeping someone else's vote just seemed surprising to me.

If you had like 10 posts and were sheeping, I wouldn't have thought anything of it.

But then I did some research and the reasoning made a little more sense.

alright, fair, thank you!

[Sloonei]

Did tutuu sub in? I went to go add them to my village lean pile but don't have them on my sheet. Who do I need to take off?

Wilgy.

SVS and DrTutuu are not partnered.

is that it? only not partnered? u cant find me as town yet? despite never seeing my scum game and not having the fear?

sorry if this is a bit egotistical but could u explain why?

im asking u specifically because i think syndicators who have a decent experience with me and never seen me wolf should find me as obv town insta

mac has the paranoia of my scumgame but even despite that he instantly found me here

This wasn’t meant to suggest that you are not town. Just that, in a world where one of you is mafia, the other is not.

You are both town.

[potentialsheltervet]

I definitely think mayos should be discussed:

[VOTE: Mayos] aubergine

Neat. He at least deserves this pressure imo

[genny]

@Zenge @SARdoghandler @mightyrunner7 @miranda920 Hey can we get some pressure on mayo?

whatdidmayodo?

It's what he hasn't done. He has not really tried to solve imo. He's been around here and there but mainly writing letters to Abigail and fluff disguised as content. He's never a highposter, but when present he does actually try to solve as town.
Same could be said for genny but mayo has been present more and is more at fault.

Every time i get caught up, something else comes up and then i'm 100 posts behind again.

But I will say that Mayo sounds like village!mayo to me. he's being open and forthcoming with the little bit of info he gives out, which is not a feeling i get when he's wolfing.

[tutuu]

Did tutuu sub in? I went to go add them to my village lean pile but don't have them on my sheet. Who do I need to take off?

Wilgy.

SVS and DrTutuu are not partnered.

is that it? only not partnered? u cant find me as town yet? despite never seeing my scum game and not having the fear?

sorry if this is a bit egotistical but could u explain why?

im asking u specifically because i think syndicators who have a decent experience with me and never seen me wolf should find me as obv town insta

mac has the paranoia of my scumgame but even despite that he instantly found me here

This wasn’t meant to suggest that you are not town. Just that, in a world where one of you is mafia, the other is not.

You are both town.

alright cool, you probably misspelled and meant to type SAR not SVS in that context then

i thought that u meant SVS SVS not SAR SVS and that read was independent of ur reply to SAR so thats why i found it odd (not that ur scumreading me, but that ur not townreading me)

(but yes everything is clear now)

[Marmot]

@Zenge @SARdoghandler @mightyrunner7 @miranda920 Hey can we get some pressure on mayo?

whatdidmayodo?

It's what he hasn't done. He has not really tried to solve imo. He's been around here and there but mainly writing letters to Abigail and fluff disguised as content. He's never a highposter, but when present he does actually try to solve as town.
Same could be said for genny but mayo has been present more and is more at fault.

Every time i get caught up, something else comes up and then i'm 100 posts behind again.

But I will say that Mayo sounds like village!mayo to me. he's being open and forthcoming with the little bit of info he gives out, which is not a feeling i get when he's wolfing.

How caught up are you now?

[potentialsheltervet]

@Zenge @SARdoghandler @mightyrunner7 @miranda920 Hey can we get some pressure on mayo?

whatdidmayodo?

It's what he hasn't done. He has not really tried to solve imo. He's been around here and there but mainly writing letters to Abigail and fluff disguised as content. He's never a highposter, but when present he does actually try to solve as town.
Same could be said for genny but mayo has been present more and is more at fault.

Every time i get caught up, something else comes up and then i'm 100 posts behind again.

But I will say that Mayo sounds like village!mayo to me. he's being open and forthcoming with the little bit of info he gives out, which is not a feeling i get when he's wolfing.

I've gotten the exact opposite vibe from him so I'm really surprised by this take.

[genny]

@Zenge @SARdoghandler @mightyrunner7 @miranda920 Hey can we get some pressure on mayo?

whatdidmayodo?

It's what he hasn't done. He has not really tried to solve imo. He's been around here and there but mainly writing letters to Abigail and fluff disguised as content. He's never a highposter, but when present he does actually try to solve as town.
Same could be said for genny but mayo has been present more and is more at fault.

Every time i get caught up, something else comes up and then i'm 100 posts behind again.

But I will say that Mayo sounds like village!mayo to me. he's being open and forthcoming with the little bit of info he gives out, which is not a feeling i get when he's wolfing.

How caught up are you now?

i have read everything at least once i think.

[Marmot]

@Zenge @SARdoghandler @mightyrunner7 @miranda920 Hey can we get some pressure on mayo?

whatdidmayodo?

It's what he hasn't done. He has not really tried to solve imo. He's been around here and there but mainly writing letters to Abigail and fluff disguised as content. He's never a highposter, but when present he does actually try to solve as town.
Same could be said for genny but mayo has been present more and is more at fault.

Every time i get caught up, something else comes up and then i'm 100 posts behind again.

But I will say that Mayo sounds like village!mayo to me. he's being open and forthcoming with the little bit of info he gives out, which is not a feeling i get when he's wolfing.

How caught up are you now?

i have read everything at least once i think.

Tbh, that's amazing, because I've only read like 50% of the posts.

[NateTheLesser]

Why is @Neon voting Dennis?

She said she's wolfreading him for a really dumb reason but hasn't elaborated IIRC

[santygrass]

Like, Sar voting with you not because they read Falcon a particular way, just that you will get 'untunneled' its just such a lazy and bad reason to vote someone. Its bogus.

You shouldn't be causing that sort of excuses in wolves or mindset in town. Its super unproductive

The way you phrased it isn’t the best but I actually disagree.

There is merit to the argument that even if I’m wrong, because so many people have weighed in and talked a decent amount about this that a Falcon flip would give a lot of information on other players. If I’m right though, then that’s still true, and it’s even better.

I disagree with all my heart to the secnd argument. There is 0 merit there, where you should just reassess.

Doing the sheep thing, then they are just being allowing to your tunnel which is bad so /shrug

Again Santy. I have reassessed. Falcon still comes up wolf. Every. Single. Time.

I think you are missing my point.

Again.

I am not saying that you should villa-read Falcon now. I am telling you to reassess and look farther. You are having only worldview consisten and being 100% reliable on falcon being a wolf.


If I tell you I have the mech equivalent on falcon being Villa, what would you do? Deflate and do nothing? Because it seems like that ln you focusing only on that

@Zenge I want you to answer me the last question

[tutuu]

@Zenge @SARdoghandler @mightyrunner7 @miranda920 Hey can we get some pressure on mayo?

whatdidmayodo?

It's what he hasn't done. He has not really tried to solve imo. He's been around here and there but mainly writing letters to Abigail and fluff disguised as content. He's never a highposter, but when present he does actually try to solve as town.
Same could be said for genny but mayo has been present more and is more at fault.

Every time i get caught up, something else comes up and then i'm 100 posts behind again.

But I will say that Mayo sounds like village!mayo to me. he's being open and forthcoming with the little bit of info he gives out, which is not a feeling i get when he's wolfing.

this doesnt sound like w/w to me

if genny is mafia i think she's TMI'ng mayo town, this is a common post wolves write at LHF / scummy villagers

if there's a wolf between genny and mayo id say its genny

[Sloonei]

Did tutuu sub in? I went to go add them to my village lean pile but don't have them on my sheet. Who do I need to take off?

Wilgy.

SVS and DrTutuu are not partnered.

is that it? only not partnered? u cant find me as town yet? despite never seeing my scum game and not having the fear?

sorry if this is a bit egotistical but could u explain why?

im asking u specifically because i think syndicators who have a decent experience with me and never seen me wolf should find me as obv town insta

mac has the paranoia of my scumgame but even despite that he instantly found me here

This wasn’t meant to suggest that you are not town. Just that, in a world where one of you is mafia, the other is not.

You are both town.

alright cool, you probably misspelled and meant to type SAR not SVS in that context then

i thought that u meant SVS SVS not SAR SVS and that read was independent of ur reply to SAR so thats why i found it odd (not that ur scumreading me, but that ur not townreading me)

(but yes everything is clear now)

Oh. Yes, I thought that was a SVS post.

[Marmot]

@Zenge @SARdoghandler @mightyrunner7 @miranda920 Hey can we get some pressure on mayo?

whatdidmayodo?

It's what he hasn't done. He has not really tried to solve imo. He's been around here and there but mainly writing letters to Abigail and fluff disguised as content. He's never a highposter, but when present he does actually try to solve as town.
Same could be said for genny but mayo has been present more and is more at fault.

Every time i get caught up, something else comes up and then i'm 100 posts behind again.

But I will say that Mayo sounds like village!mayo to me. he's being open and forthcoming with the little bit of info he gives out, which is not a feeling i get when he's wolfing.

I've gotten the exact opposite vibe from him so I'm really surprised by this take.

Do you have any examples you can quote?

[santygrass]

@Zenge @SARdoghandler @mightyrunner7 @miranda920 Hey can we get some pressure on mayo?

whatdidmayodo?

It's what he hasn't done. He has not really tried to solve imo. He's been around here and there but mainly writing letters to Abigail and fluff disguised as content. He's never a highposter, but when present he does actually try to solve as town.
Same could be said for genny but mayo has been present more and is more at fault.

Every time i get caught up, something else comes up and then i'm 100 posts behind again.

But I will say that Mayo sounds like village!mayo to me. he's being open and forthcoming with the little bit of info he gives out, which is not a feeling i get when he's wolfing.

How caught up are you now?

i have read everything at least once i think.

Tbh, that's amazing, because I've only read like 50% of the posts.

Reading D1 is overrated

[Marmot]

whatdidmayodo?

It's what he hasn't done. He has not really tried to solve imo. He's been around here and there but mainly writing letters to Abigail and fluff disguised as content. He's never a highposter, but when present he does actually try to solve as town.
Same could be said for genny but mayo has been present more and is more at fault.

Every time i get caught up, something else comes up and then i'm 100 posts behind again.

But I will say that Mayo sounds like village!mayo to me. he's being open and forthcoming with the little bit of info he gives out, which is not a feeling i get when he's wolfing.

How caught up are you now?

i have read everything at least once i think.

Tbh, that's amazing, because I've only read like 50% of the posts.

Reading D1 is overrated

hmmyes

[tutuu]

@Zenge @SARdoghandler @mightyrunner7 @miranda920 Hey can we get some pressure on mayo?

whatdidmayodo?

It's what he hasn't done. He has not really tried to solve imo. He's been around here and there but mainly writing letters to Abigail and fluff disguised as content. He's never a highposter, but when present he does actually try to solve as town.
Same could be said for genny but mayo has been present more and is more at fault.

Every time i get caught up, something else comes up and then i'm 100 posts behind again.

But I will say that Mayo sounds like village!mayo to me. he's being open and forthcoming with the little bit of info he gives out, which is not a feeling i get when he's wolfing.

I've gotten the exact opposite vibe from him so I'm really surprised by this take.

also im really confbiased / on my way to tunnel coz i thought this is w/w between psv and genny

i ... tend to get prone to tunneling and it goes bad. i need to not interact with you psv for a bit sorry, otherwise id start tunneling you and my mind will get clouded

kumbayah my lord

[S~V~S]

@Marmot , Also voting for Creature, meh. Suspecting Creature before switching off him and never looking back, meh.

We all voted all over each other in GOC. I won't clear anyone I was teammates with in that game for suspecting, then unsuspecting, or voting, then unvoting someone. As I would expect you should never clear me for it. We all got Greyhound top passenger miles for that game, lol.

Also, your reasons were proven bullshit when you backed off Creature becasue he had time restraints, then when he came back, you stayed off of him. And I expanded the time frame becasue YOU were quibbling about the last five minutes. It was longer than that, and you replied to both of them towards EOD.

I think you had TMI on Creatures time issues, and used it as an excuse. I call shenanigans, my rodent friend.

I really don't think it was TMI, I took dya's comments at the time to mean that Creature was busy with another game but she didn't want to angleshoot. So I don't think it's sus if Marmot interpreted it the same way.

I think that's just part of why I think they're sus, tbh. It's why I looked at them initially, but it evolved.

@Marmot, I'm not in a tunnel. I went back to read to see if what I think is supported by other things in the thread, and it is. I think you're bad. I haven't seen anything to make me think otherwise. But yeah, I don't have much to add to what i already said, so if you would prefer not to engage, I'm cool. If the wagon shifts, I could vote for either of you.

@Marmot also, sorry I've been misgendering you.

[Lawpy]

Did tutuu sub in? I went to go add them to my village lean pile but don't have them on my sheet. Who do I need to take off?

Wilgy.

SVS and DrTutuu are not partnered.

is that it? only not partnered? u cant find me as town yet? despite never seeing my scum game and not having the fear?

sorry if this is a bit egotistical but could u explain why?

im asking u specifically because i think syndicators who have a decent experience with me and never seen me wolf should find me as obv town insta

mac has the paranoia of my scumgame but even despite that he instantly found me here

This wasn’t meant to suggest that you are not town. Just that, in a world where one of you is mafia, the other is not.

You are both town.

alright cool, you probably misspelled and meant to type SAR not SVS in that context then

i thought that u meant SVS SVS not SAR SVS and that read was independent of ur reply to SAR so thats why i found it odd (not that ur scumreading me, but that ur not townreading me)

(but yes everything is clear now)

Oh. Yes, I thought that was a SVS post.

I still mentally think SVS = PSV + SAR for some reason

[Zenge]

Like, Sar voting with you not because they read Falcon a particular way, just that you will get 'untunneled' its just such a lazy and bad reason to vote someone. Its bogus.

You shouldn't be causing that sort of excuses in wolves or mindset in town. Its super unproductive

The way you phrased it isn’t the best but I actually disagree.

There is merit to the argument that even if I’m wrong, because so many people have weighed in and talked a decent amount about this that a Falcon flip would give a lot of information on other players. If I’m right though, then that’s still true, and it’s even better.

I disagree with all my heart to the secnd argument. There is 0 merit there, where you should just reassess.

Doing the sheep thing, then they are just being allowing to your tunnel which is bad so /shrug

Again Santy. I have reassessed. Falcon still comes up wolf. Every. Single. Time.

I think you are missing my point.

Again.

I am not saying that you should villa-read Falcon now. I am telling you to reassess and look farther. You are having only worldview consisten and being 100% reliable on falcon being a wolf.


If I tell you I have the mech equivalent on falcon being Villa, what would you do? Deflate and do nothing? Because it seems like that ln you focusing only on that

@Zenge I want you to answer me the last question

I’m not going to speculate on hypotheticals.

You’re asking me who I would push in a Village!Falcon world. But I don’t believe that’s the world we’re in.

So you’re basically asking me which villagers would I misyeet. I’m not sure that’s a productive hypothetical

[santygrass]

@Zenge @SARdoghandler @mightyrunner7 @miranda920 Hey can we get some pressure on mayo?

whatdidmayodo?

It's what he hasn't done. He has not really tried to solve imo. He's been around here and there but mainly writing letters to Abigail and fluff disguised as content. He's never a highposter, but when present he does actually try to solve as town.
Same could be said for genny but mayo has been present more and is more at fault.

Every time i get caught up, something else comes up and then i'm 100 posts behind again.

But I will say that Mayo sounds like village!mayo to me. he's being open and forthcoming with the little bit of info he gives out, which is not a feeling i get when he's wolfing.

I've gotten the exact opposite vibe from him so I'm really surprised by this take.

also im really confbiased / on my way to tunnel coz i thought this is w/w between psv and genny

i ... tend to get prone to tunneling and it goes bad. i need to not interact with you psv for a bit sorry, otherwise id start tunneling you and my mind will get clouded

kumbayah my lord

I think psv and genny are quite unpaired actually, because PSV has been one to bring shade / attention to genny the most I'd say and I don't think she would do that if genny was their partner. Specially while being an oddball and kinda lowposting is genny trademark. Super easy 'genny is being genny read' if partners

[miranda920]

@Zenge @SARdoghandler @mightyrunner7 @miranda920 Hey can we get some pressure on mayo?

Why are we pressuring mayo?

[Marmot]

@Marmot , Also voting for Creature, meh. Suspecting Creature before switching off him and never looking back, meh.

We all voted all over each other in GOC. I won't clear anyone I was teammates with in that game for suspecting, then unsuspecting, or voting, then unvoting someone. As I would expect you should never clear me for it. We all got Greyhound top passenger miles for that game, lol.

Also, your reasons were proven bullshit when you backed off Creature becasue he had time restraints, then when he came back, you stayed off of him. And I expanded the time frame becasue YOU were quibbling about the last five minutes. It was longer than that, and you replied to both of them towards EOD.

I think you had TMI on Creatures time issues, and used it as an excuse. I call shenanigans, my rodent friend.

I really don't think it was TMI, I took dya's comments at the time to mean that Creature was busy with another game but she didn't want to angleshoot. So I don't think it's sus if Marmot interpreted it the same way.

I think that's just part of why I think they're sus, tbh. It's why I looked at them initially, but it evolved.

@Marmot, I'm not in a tunnel. I went back to read to see if what I think is supported by other things in the thread, and it is. I think you're bad. I haven't seen anything to make me think otherwise. But yeah, I don't have much to add to what i already said, so if you would prefer not to engage, I'm cool. If the wagon shifts, I could vote for either of you.

@Marmot also, sorry I've been misgendering you.

It's ok, thanks for noticing!

[santygrass]

Like, Sar voting with you not because they read Falcon a particular way, just that you will get 'untunneled' its just such a lazy and bad reason to vote someone. Its bogus.

You shouldn't be causing that sort of excuses in wolves or mindset in town. Its super unproductive

The way you phrased it isn’t the best but I actually disagree.

There is merit to the argument that even if I’m wrong, because so many people have weighed in and talked a decent amount about this that a Falcon flip would give a lot of information on other players. If I’m right though, then that’s still true, and it’s even better.

I disagree with all my heart to the secnd argument. There is 0 merit there, where you should just reassess.

Doing the sheep thing, then they are just being allowing to your tunnel which is bad so /shrug

Again Santy. I have reassessed. Falcon still comes up wolf. Every. Single. Time.

I think you are missing my point.

Again.

I am not saying that you should villa-read Falcon now. I am telling you to reassess and look farther. You are having only worldview consisten and being 100% reliable on falcon being a wolf.


If I tell you I have the mech equivalent on falcon being Villa, what would you do? Deflate and do nothing? Because it seems like that ln you focusing only on that

@Zenge I want you to answer me the last question

I’m not going to speculate on hypotheticals.

You’re asking me who I would push in a Village!Falcon world. But I don’t believe that’s the world we’re in.

So you’re basically asking me which villagers would I misyeet. I’m not sure that’s a productive hypothetical

Yes it is.

[santygrass]

Closing your view to one world is glaringly bad already.
And I'm being forceful here for a reason don't you get that vibe or is it only me?

I am a Falcon Partner now for suggesting having mech pointing at them being villa?

Give me something to work with Zenge smh

[Marmot]

I’m not going to speculate on hypotheticals.

You’re asking me who I would push in a Village!Falcon world. But I don’t believe that’s the world we’re in.

So you’re basically asking me which villagers would I misyeet. I’m not sure that’s a productive hypothetical

It is work, but it can be useful to look at alternative world views, especially if the original worldview turns out to be wrong.

[Zenge]

The way you phrased it isn’t the best but I actually disagree.

There is merit to the argument that even if I’m wrong, because so many people have weighed in and talked a decent amount about this that a Falcon flip would give a lot of information on other players. If I’m right though, then that’s still true, and it’s even better.

I disagree with all my heart to the secnd argument. There is 0 merit there, where you should just reassess.

Doing the sheep thing, then they are just being allowing to your tunnel which is bad so /shrug

Again Santy. I have reassessed. Falcon still comes up wolf. Every. Single. Time.

I think you are missing my point.

Again.

I am not saying that you should villa-read Falcon now. I am telling you to reassess and look farther. You are having only worldview consisten and being 100% reliable on falcon being a wolf.


If I tell you I have the mech equivalent on falcon being Villa, what would you do? Deflate and do nothing? Because it seems like that ln you focusing only on that

@Zenge I want you to answer me the last question

I’m not going to speculate on hypotheticals.

You’re asking me who I would push in a Village!Falcon world. But I don’t believe that’s the world we’re in.

So you’re basically asking me which villagers would I misyeet. I’m not sure that’s a productive hypothetical

Yes it is.

It’s not though. You’re asking me to abandon my reads and do a complete 180. What this question boils down to when you take it to its logical conclusion is “which of my village reads is a wolf”. And I’m not really interested in exploring that, especially when you’re framing it based on a foundation that Falcon is Lock town in this hypothetical.

[Marmot]

Closing your view to one world is glaringly bad already.
And I'm being forceful here for a reason don't you get that vibe or is it only me?

I am a Falcon Partner now for suggesting having mech pointing at them being villa?

Give me something to work with Zenge smh

I can't believe you outed yourself so easily smh

[tutuu]

I think psv and genny are quite unpaired actually, because PSV has been one to bring shade / attention to genny the most I'd say and I don't think she would do that if genny was their partner. Specially while being an oddball and kinda lowposting is genny trademark. Super easy 'genny is being genny read' if partners

"Super easy 'genny is being genny read' if partners"

just from a theory standpoint, i will disagree that that's easy. protecting your scummy partners is hard to do, it takes a lot of courage. most people dont do that. bussing/shading/distancing from scummy wolf partners is the easiest thing, its what most people default to. from my experience and observations

that said this is the first time i see both genny and psv obviously and ive barely read their isos

[santygrass]

I disagree with all my heart to the secnd argument. There is 0 merit there, where you should just reassess.

Doing the sheep thing, then they are just being allowing to your tunnel which is bad so /shrug

Again Santy. I have reassessed. Falcon still comes up wolf. Every. Single. Time.

I think you are missing my point.

Again.

I am not saying that you should villa-read Falcon now. I am telling you to reassess and look farther. You are having only worldview consisten and being 100% reliable on falcon being a wolf.


If I tell you I have the mech equivalent on falcon being Villa, what would you do? Deflate and do nothing? Because it seems like that ln you focusing only on that

@Zenge I want you to answer me the last question

I’m not going to speculate on hypotheticals.

You’re asking me who I would push in a Village!Falcon world. But I don’t believe that’s the world we’re in.

So you’re basically asking me which villagers would I misyeet. I’m not sure that’s a productive hypothetical

Yes it is.

It’s not though. You’re asking me to abandon my reads and do a complete 180. What this question boils down to when you take it to its logical conclusion is “which of my village reads is a wolf”. And I’m not really interested in exploring that, especially when you’re framing it based on a foundation that Falcon is Lock town in this hypothetical.

I'm telling you to look for other wolves, not discard your village reads.

Zenge, work with meeeeeee . Who else is woooofingggg

[Zenge]

I am a Falcon Partner now for suggesting having mech pointing at them being villa?

Where did I say this?

[S~V~S]

Did tutuu sub in? I went to go add them to my village lean pile but don't have them on my sheet. Who do I need to take off?

Wilgy.

SVS and DrTutuu are not partnered.

is that it? only not partnered? u cant find me as town yet? despite never seeing my scum game and not having the fear?

sorry if this is a bit egotistical but could u explain why?

im asking u specifically because i think syndicators who have a decent experience with me and never seen me wolf should find me as obv town insta

mac has the paranoia of my scumgame but even despite that he instantly found me here

This wasn’t meant to suggest that you are not town. Just that, in a world where one of you is mafia, the other is not.

You are both town.

alright cool, you probably misspelled and meant to type SAR not SVS in that context then

i thought that u meant SVS SVS not SAR SVS and that read was independent of ur reply to SAR so thats why i found it odd (not that ur scumreading me, but that ur not townreading me)

(but yes everything is clear now)

Oh. Yes, I thought that was a SVS post.

I was wondering how I got into that conversation lol

[genny]

@Zenge @SARdoghandler @mightyrunner7 @miranda920 Hey can we get some pressure on mayo?

whatdidmayodo?

It's what he hasn't done. He has not really tried to solve imo. He's been around here and there but mainly writing letters to Abigail and fluff disguised as content. He's never a highposter, but when present he does actually try to solve as town.
Same could be said for genny but mayo has been present more and is more at fault.

Every time i get caught up, something else comes up and then i'm 100 posts behind again.

But I will say that Mayo sounds like village!mayo to me. he's being open and forthcoming with the little bit of info he gives out, which is not a feeling i get when he's wolfing.

I've gotten the exact opposite vibe from him so I'm really surprised by this take.

This is a village!mayo post, psv.

@Animal Midwife would you agree with this?

I don't know AM that well, but this seems like a weird, potentially telling tag.

What tale does it tell?

I'll let you get caught up, and then will field questions.

I see you answered this, but I'm still not sure I understand your point in pointing out zenge's tagging AM for a question

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Oooo, care to eleaborate?

You've been dancing around the Zenge/Falcon/Sloonei drama but have seemingly been in every camp at this point

OoO fun! You're actually pushing me.

I ask you to put yourself into my POV. Falcon is not an option. This leaves Zenge/Sloonei. Both have done sushish things, but meh...

Do I really feel like I'm dancing? I feel like I'm nipping. To great effect.

Except that your POV isn't that falcon is town, it's that wolf falcon isn't worth your D1 attention.

Knowing Zenge's meta, I don't think it's possible he and Sloonei are W/W.

You are dancing from one to the other and willfully ignoring the third. That's three beats, so I guess it's a waltz or a muneut... though you seem spicy, so I wouldn't put a Fandango outside of your wheelhouse.

there's a glimpse of him solving here, and i know it's not much, but that's what you get with mayo. this is how i read him last game, you're welcome to use it in the future.

[tutuu]

@Zenge @SARdoghandler @mightyrunner7 @miranda920 Hey can we get some pressure on mayo?

Why are we pressuring mayo?

this emoji is so derpy i wanna townread it

this is a dumb read but i feel like if miranda was mafia she would write this exact post but without the emoji. a bit more serious. shed be a bit more scared

[Marmot]

I think psv and genny are quite unpaired actually, because PSV has been one to bring shade / attention to genny the most I'd say and I don't think she would do that if genny was their partner. Specially while being an oddball and kinda lowposting is genny trademark. Super easy 'genny is being genny read' if partners

PSV just did this with mayo too, is this just something that PSV does?

[tutuu]

@Zenge @SARdoghandler @mightyrunner7 @miranda920 Hey can we get some pressure on mayo?

Why are we pressuring mayo?

this emoji is so derpy i wanna townread it

this is a dumb read but i feel like if miranda was mafia she would write this exact post but without the emoji. a bit more serious. shed be a bit more scared

dumb reads are the most accurate

[santygrass]

I think psv and genny are quite unpaired actually, because PSV has been one to bring shade / attention to genny the most I'd say and I don't think she would do that if genny was their partner. Specially while being an oddball and kinda lowposting is genny trademark. Super easy 'genny is being genny read' if partners

"Super easy 'genny is being genny read' if partners"

just from a theory standpoint, i will disagree that that's easy. protecting your scummy partners is hard to do, it takes a lot of courage. most people dont do that. bussing/shading/distancing from scummy wolf partners is the easiest thing, its what most people default to. from my experience and observations

that said this is the first time i see both genny and psv obviously and ive barely read their isos

Its mostly from the meta history, that genny usually goes UTR and does their thing rather unnoticed, getting vibe reads here and there but its not put under the spotlight that often, and as a partner would be a weird thing to do for PSV imo.
Like, they don't even need to mention them, ad know they will do their thing and just be genny. It would be a sortof strong bus in relative terms to how Psv/genny wolf games go I think. So I think its unlikely .

Even if psv isnt voting genny and all that, thats why I said relative cuz in terms of actions it would be psv playing to bus in an unneeded state so yeh.

[santygrass]

I think psv and genny are quite unpaired actually, because PSV has been one to bring shade / attention to genny the most I'd say and I don't think she would do that if genny was their partner. Specially while being an oddball and kinda lowposting is genny trademark. Super easy 'genny is being genny read' if partners

PSV just did this with mayo too, is this just something that PSV does?

Nah. I am talking about genny specifically because of their playstyle.

Not much related to mayo

[miranda920]

@Zenge @SARdoghandler @mightyrunner7 @miranda920 Hey can we get some pressure on mayo?

I’m not moving. Also if Mayo is softing vig I don’t want to force him to out that.

Although idk why he wouldn’t have shot Falcon. Smh.

I agree with this stance on mayo, it sounds like he is alluding to that fact he has a gun

[Zenge]

Again Santy. I have reassessed. Falcon still comes up wolf. Every. Single. Time.

I think you are missing my point.

Again.

I am not saying that you should villa-read Falcon now. I am telling you to reassess and look farther. You are having only worldview consisten and being 100% reliable on falcon being a wolf.


If I tell you I have the mech equivalent on falcon being Villa, what would you do? Deflate and do nothing? Because it seems like that ln you focusing only on that

@Zenge I want you to answer me the last question

I’m not going to speculate on hypotheticals.

You’re asking me who I would push in a Village!Falcon world. But I don’t believe that’s the world we’re in.

So you’re basically asking me which villagers would I misyeet. I’m not sure that’s a productive hypothetical

Yes it is.

It’s not though. You’re asking me to abandon my reads and do a complete 180. What this question boils down to when you take it to its logical conclusion is “which of my village reads is a wolf”. And I’m not really interested in exploring that, especially when you’re framing it based on a foundation that Falcon is Lock town in this hypothetical.

I'm telling you to look for other wolves, not discard your village reads.

Zenge, work with meeeeeee . Who else is woooofingggg

And I’m telling you my world view is one built around Falcon being a wolf. I’m looking at who supports Falcon on bad reasoning and whether they’re a pack mate. I’m looking at people who build wagons to compete with Falcon to try and save them.

IF Falcon magically flips village, I’ll have completely different views. But I’m not fucking moving off of Falcon. I’m not changing my read. I’m here until I’m dead or Falcon flips.

If Falcon flips wolf, people who were super scummy in their defense will need to answer for their crimes. If Flacon by some miracle flips Village I’ll have egg on my face and re-evaluate everything.

This a wolf read Santy. I’m not walking away from it just because it’s an uphill battle.

[santygrass]

I am a Falcon Partner now for suggesting having mech pointing at them being villa?

Where did I say this?

It is a rethorical question.
I am expecting to have something else from you and doing questions here