[END] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game

[santygrass]

i think santy is a wolf who's just relying on having a good tone to excuse himself from not solving

Its very easy to pretend to solve fwiw .
Anyone who has played against me as a wolf kinda knows that still. If my reads are lazy its more telling about the time I have to put in the game rather than alignment /shrug

[Seanzie]

@Sloonei apart from lawpy do you have other scumreads?

@Seanzie apart from lawpy do you have other scumreads?

Nobody told me a spicy name to vote for, so I'm lost in the water.

[santygrass]

*looks at page number*

Haha nice

[Seanzie]

@Sloonei apart from lawpy do you have other scumreads?

@Seanzie apart from lawpy do you have other scumreads?

Not actively. The quieter folks (genny, seanzie, miranda, SAR) should be sussed out further. I just haven’t gotten around to doing that yet.

Do you not consider Falcon's ISO a relevant place to look? I would have though it'd be where to start for you.

I do not consider Falcon's ISO a relevant place to look.

[tutuu]

I haven't read much of last night, plan to today since daytime hours (my local time) seem slower than overnight)

OK, current list:

Not Voting Today

TuTuu
Mac
Mayo

Highly Unlikely to Vote Today

Dennis
Nate
SAR
Sloonei (although I see he was the point of a discussion last night that I didn't read yet)
Neon

People I Need to get a Better Grip on

Mighty
Santy
Sean
Genny


Imma Most Likely to Vote for one of these people

Lawpy
Miranda @MacDougall can you tell my why you are town reading her? Same for @tutuu

I have a dumb townread on one of her emojis

A few dead SDNers have her as town

SAR, another alive and scumread player has her as town

Usually scummy players are afraid to defend another scummy player if theyre both mafia. Making SAR and miranda both scum unlikely

So there is a world where SAR is town and correct on miranda town

And a world where SAR is mafia and TMIng miranda town

The percentages of those two add up to a decent percentage that miranda is town

This isnt the strongest of townreads but i want to murder like 4 people before i consider miranda

[santygrass]

@Sloonei apart from lawpy do you have other scumreads?

@Seanzie apart from lawpy do you have other scumreads?

Nobody told me a spicy name to vote for, so I'm lost in the water.

Vote genny, Ties GOAT

[Seanzie]

I keep coming back to the idea that the Werecreatures faction are basically wimless. Creature and Falcon both went belly up day 2. Seanzie fell a mile off. That faction might just be dead?

@tutuu you're townreading Neon because of their "joyposting" or whatever, but imo they haven't had positive energy towards the game since day 1. Throughout day 2 they were essentially a non factor and their posting was sombre and has only gotten worse today.

"Seanzie fell a mile off" what

Is he just a werecreature now?

What do you mean what?

You said, seanzie fell a mile off when talking about the werecreatures faction

Seanzie is still like playing the game, and not dead

Ergo, what? Are you just like boldly claiming seanzie is bad?

Dennis just spewed that I'm not a vampire - ergo Dennis is a vampire - lets gettem!

(for legal reasons this is a joke)

[tutuu]

I keep coming back to the idea that the Werecreatures faction are basically wimless. Creature and Falcon both went belly up day 2. Seanzie fell a mile off. That faction might just be dead?

@tutuu you're townreading Neon because of their "joyposting" or whatever, but imo they haven't had positive energy towards the game since day 1. Throughout day 2 they were essentially a non factor and their posting was sombre and has only gotten worse today.

tutuu
mayo
mr7
miranda

sean
sloonei
SVS

SAR
neon
dennis
nate

santy
genny
lawpy

I appreciate the suggested shade in the first post followed by my high placement in the second.

Whats your conclusion from this?

[santygrass]

I think the fact that yesterday both Creature and Falcon were wagons and Miranda vote was on neither of them is telling?


And iirc PSV also had doubts? But maybe I have to doublecheck there. I do remember their genny sus so Im totally okat with genny being a wagon+tuutuu recent post about genny is also good

[Seanzie]

I keep coming back to the idea that the Werecreatures faction are basically wimless. Creature and Falcon both went belly up day 2. Seanzie fell a mile off. That faction might just be dead?

@tutuu you're townreading Neon because of their "joyposting" or whatever, but imo they haven't had positive energy towards the game since day 1. Throughout day 2 they were essentially a non factor and their posting was sombre and has only gotten worse today.

"Seanzie fell a mile off" what

Is he just a werecreature now?

What do you mean what?

You said, seanzie fell a mile off when talking about the werecreatures faction

Seanzie is still like playing the game, and not dead

Ergo, what? Are you just like boldly claiming seanzie is bad?

I am implying the werecreatures faction may be suffering from demotivation.

I am indicating that Seanzie's contributions to the game have cratered since wolves started dying.

He made 5 posts yesterday and is up to 6 today. So "Seanzie is still like playing the game".

When wolves flip, town tend to get more motivated, not less.

Weird reaction.

Actually by your very own post here, you can see that I cratered well before wolves started dying, and I was up to like 8 by the time you posted this, so the day after 2+? wolves died, I am at double-WIM! Pretty much the WIMmiest guy around.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

@Neon any reads?

Sure do.

I'm town.
Mac town
Santy town
Miranda town.
Mayo town.

Tu Madre


Kill Dennis.

Any wolf reads other than Dennis? Or only town? Also, can you tell me why you think Miranda is town?

Mmmm. Nope I only do town reads now. Please dial 1800 not Neon to get scum reads

Anyways Miranda is town because Creatures vote on Miranda day 1

That is not woof trying to distance from woof. That is woof opportunistically voting town and its why I pushed Creature early.

[miranda920]

I feel like there's a post restriction here.

There's not a post restrictor, unless it's something an inventor cooked up.

This actually feels like a genuine slip. I believe he didn't know Creature had the role. But I also want to know why you dismissed the idea completely @NateTheLesser?

this is interesting...

How did you come across this post? It's a few pages into the day. Just curious.

I was reading through the pages? I can read lol
Just because I don’t quote a lot doesn’t mean I don’t read what is being said

[santygrass]

From SDN , I think in the group of Miranda/Mayo/genny might be the wolf, Sar/Mighty too if falcon is villa.

But I think Creature/Dennis is just more likely a hit rn

Concur. Except I'm not feeling strongly about Dennis's mafianess but do what you do.

Ftr, miranda is my independent read, and for mayo/genny I am mostly sheeping you :curtain:

Fuck me Santy why would you do that lmao, you know I'm wrong on genny all the damn time
Zenge's read is more important smh

Here you have a Confirmed Villager SDN'er concuring on Miranda sus uwu

From Miranda/genny/Mayo that they were sussing, also have expressed concern with Lawpy.

Kinda think Mayo towntold today so from SDN I'd be looking at miranda/Lawpy/genny. The way syndicaters are reading miranda town with so... Little worries me that she might be from the other bad faction that is not werecreatures as well

[tutuu]

Ive never seen town sean act like this, and ive seen wolf sean act like this twice

Until i see town sean act like this, sean is mafia and needs death

[santygrass]

Like, I think Mac putting Miranda in the same tier as Mayo or Mighty who has mech reasons to be clear is eyebrow raising, to say the least

[santygrass]

Ive never seen town sean act like this, and ive seen wolf sean act like this twice

Until i see town sean act like this, sean is mafia and needs death

Noted

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

[VOTE: Lawpy] aubergine

[santygrass]

[VOTE: genny] aubergine

For science

[Seanzie]

I keep coming back to the idea that the Werecreatures faction are basically wimless. Creature and Falcon both went belly up day 2. Seanzie fell a mile off. That faction might just be dead?

@tutuu you're townreading Neon because of their "joyposting" or whatever, but imo they haven't had positive energy towards the game since day 1. Throughout day 2 they were essentially a non factor and their posting was sombre and has only gotten worse today.

tutuu
mayo
mr7
miranda

sean
sloonei
SVS

SAR
neon
dennis
nate

santy
genny
lawpy

I appreciate the suggested shade in the first post followed by my high placement in the second.

Whats your conclusion from this?

That the person who is currently logged in as Macdougall is actually Mac, and possibly town.

[tutuu]

Mac is poisoned + hes Mac he has mac reads

I dont buy santy's sus on two very obvious town (mac and dennis)

Im on phone, pretend i colored these names red

Lawpy, genny, santy, sean

[Seanzie]

Ive never seen town sean act like this, and ive seen wolf sean act like this twice

Until i see town sean act like this, sean is mafia and needs death

hmmm.... hmmm hmmm hmmm hmmmmmmm hmm...

[santygrass]

Mac is poisoned + hes Mac he has mac reads

I dont buy santy's sus on two very obvious town (mac and dennis)

Im on phone, pretend i colored these names red

Lawpy, genny, santy, sean

I am voting Mac? No right?

Until he dead the poison isnt confirmed too, and could be WvW violence too so /shrug.

I know Mac read on me is bs . Dennis is more nebulous so more understandable that you dont get it. But if Inask reasons to TR and all.you have is 'soulread' and 'they obv town' then yeah Im not going to get that.

[miranda920]

Miranda, sorry you're pressed for time. I've been there.

I feel like there's a post restriction here.

There's not a post restrictor, unless it's something an inventor cooked up.

This actually feels like a genuine slip. I believe he didn't know Creature had the role. But I also want to know why you dismissed the idea completely @NateTheLesser?

this is interesting...

Mac has had a zillion posts the last two nights, and this is the one you caught up to?

Do you have any other reasons to find Nate suspish?

When I checked your ISO for Nate I found this, and that's it for your suspish of Nate.

So I did a quick iso of Nate and marmot since that seemed to be a place of some discussion

I don’t feel strongly about marmot, I lean town there
Nate doesn’t seem particularly wolfy, but the seemingly random vote for Dennis was a little weird

I don’t think they’re paired
I’d say Nate seems less town than marmot IMO

I’m going to look into creature and falcon next

But you know what? You never did look into creature and Falcon.

This all sounds like TMI on Marmot, "Oh he's not bad". Then you vote for him? What did you find out about Creature that led you to vote Marmot instead?

So I did a quick iso of Nate and marmot since that seemed to be a place of some discussion

I don’t feel strongly about marmot, I lean town there
Nate doesn’t seem particularly wolfy, but the seemingly random vote for Dennis was a little weird

I don’t think they’re paired
I’d say Nate seems less town than marmot IMO

I’m going to look into creature and falcon next

I'm confused where you're getting the town lean on marmot?
Nate just feels like Nate to me.

Nothing that marmot has said has felt wolfy to me, you don’t have to agree with me

Okay I have limited time
I’m between creature and marmot

On my first read of Marmot, nothing stood out to me that would make me lean wolf/mafia there
But it appears I may be missing so important familiarity context and that marmot isn’t playing as they typically would

I’ve already discussed creature and how I felt some things there seem odd

Okay, I’m going to go marmot here
I don’t have time to really look into the other options since I’m literally in the stadium for the concert now

If I’m wrong then I’ll vote creature next cycle

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

All the people I feel OK about seem to think you're town, so I'm not sure I'll get any traction on this, and i don't love pushing onto someone who is AFK.

I DID look into falcon and creature, just because I didn’t do a million quotes doesn’t mean I didn’t

I did place suspicion on creature and I regrettably went with marmot because I honestly felt better about those voting there at that time. Especially since I had limited time I didn’t really have a lot to go on.
I clearly stated, I’m going marmot today and will vote creature next.

Also I addressed Nate, I do try to read everything, even if I might not comment on everything.
I just found it an interesting point.

[tutuu]

Lawpy, genny, santy, seanzie

[santygrass]

Like, I am not attacking Mac for having Mac reads. I am attacking for saying stuff he should know its incorrect. He took me off of towncore when they saw thread didnt quite clear me as he initially thought

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

[VOTE: genny] aubergine

For science

That's my line!

[santygrass]

@miranda920 can you tell me about your current view? Like, who are your confident reads / try to sort people into town/scum ?

Dont think you trying to shiel/explain yourself on why you did for being pressed on time or whatever will make me feel better about you, so I think taking a different stance and try to solve/put your thought on the game will help me more

[S~V~S]

@miranda920 Can you show me which post?

I went looking through your ISO this AM specifically because I asked you for a referenced post and you must have missed my @.

Thanks!

[tutuu]

@MacDougall if u want me to move to lawpy let me know

[S~V~S]

Car posting in parking lots ftw lol

[santygrass]

Also, if for some reason you consider Creature in Anti-spew since EoD1 , then Mighty shouldn't be a clears of yours either @MacDougall

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Genny] aubergine

[Seanzie]

I wanted a SPICY vote, but all anyone gave me was the CW.

[santygrass]

Though I do think they are likely to be town still for their vote on Falcon now that I think about it wowee

[santygrass]

I wanted a SPICY vote, but all anyone gave me was the CW.

If you want we could move to Miranda or Dennis o7

[Seanzie]

I wanted a SPICY vote, but all anyone gave me was the CW.

If you want we could move to Miranda or Dennis o7

I'd entertain Miranda.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Miranda is town and I will literally scream

[S~V~S]

Miranda is town and I will literally scream

Sorry if I disagree. I don’t want you to scream, but it’s your choice.

I’m fairly sure I’ve seen you make early dustancingvotes on teammates, havent I? Why should that clear anyone since he ended up on someone else?

[miranda920]

@miranda920 Can you show me which post?

I went looking through your ISO this AM specifically because I asked you for a referenced post and you must have missed my @.

Thanks!

Which post are you asking for?

[tutuu]

Genny has 0 posted today

Everyone else is at least trying

[Seanzie]

Genny has 0 posted today

Everyone else is at least trying

Speak for yourself.

[MacDougall]

Like, I am not attacking Mac for having Mac reads. I am attacking for saying stuff he should know its incorrect. He took me off of towncore when they saw thread didnt quite clear me as he initially thought

Being a whiny baby isn't gonna get you back into the towncore.

[MacDougall]

Also, if for some reason you consider Creature in Anti-spew since EoD1 , then Mighty shouldn't be a clears of yours either @MacDougall

Alright I have no townreads except Mayo again. Just Mayo and me vs. the world.

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: Santygrass] aubergine

[S~V~S]

creature *should* be a polarized player that hates wolfing, is not as good at wolfing as towning, hyper posts as town and likes to get depressed and post that town depression itt, and go under the radar as mafia (these arent my takes, im echoing what i know is the consensus on how to read him)

it lines up with his ISO + it lines up with my thought that the wolfteam here has people from different communities who dont know each other, making it awkward / out of comfort zone to wolf together with so many unfamiliar faces

so players who hate wolfing already will probably be extremely demotivated to wolf in this game

This is interesting, I didn’t find creature’s ISO to be particularly sus, but if what you’re saying is true to how they usually approach these games then that lines up with what we are seeing

You didn't find him voting for you for no reason four minutes into the day at least odd?

I did, I believe I addressed it in a recent post

I looked and didn't find that. Can you link me to it?

@miranda920 this was the one you referenced that I asked for last night.

[MacDougall]

Everyone vote Santy it'll be super funny.

@Dennis @tutuu make everyone do it while I sleep. I want to see if we can persuade the whole playerlist to vote him.

[S~V~S]

Miranda, sorry you're pressed for time. I've been there.

I feel like there's a post restriction here.

There's not a post restrictor, unless it's something an inventor cooked up.

This actually feels like a genuine slip. I believe he didn't know Creature had the role. But I also want to know why you dismissed the idea completely @NateTheLesser?

this is interesting...

Mac has had a zillion posts the last two nights, and this is the one you caught up to?

Do you have any other reasons to find Nate suspish?

When I checked your ISO for Nate I found this, and that's it for your suspish of Nate.

So I did a quick iso of Nate and marmot since that seemed to be a place of some discussion

I don’t feel strongly about marmot, I lean town there
Nate doesn’t seem particularly wolfy, but the seemingly random vote for Dennis was a little weird

I don’t think they’re paired
I’d say Nate seems less town than marmot IMO

I’m going to look into creature and falcon next

But you know what? You never did look into creature and Falcon.

This all sounds like TMI on Marmot, "Oh he's not bad". Then you vote for him? What did you find out about Creature that led you to vote Marmot instead?

So I did a quick iso of Nate and marmot since that seemed to be a place of some discussion

I don’t feel strongly about marmot, I lean town there
Nate doesn’t seem particularly wolfy, but the seemingly random vote for Dennis was a little weird

I don’t think they’re paired
I’d say Nate seems less town than marmot IMO

I’m going to look into creature and falcon next

I'm confused where you're getting the town lean on marmot?
Nate just feels like Nate to me.

Nothing that marmot has said has felt wolfy to me, you don’t have to agree with me

Okay I have limited time
I’m between creature and marmot

On my first read of Marmot, nothing stood out to me that would make me lean wolf/mafia there
But it appears I may be missing so important familiarity context and that marmot isn’t playing as they typically would

I’ve already discussed creature and how I felt some things there seem odd

Okay, I’m going to go marmot here
I don’t have time to really look into the other options since I’m literally in the stadium for the concert now

If I’m wrong then I’ll vote creature next cycle

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

All the people I feel OK about seem to think you're town, so I'm not sure I'll get any traction on this, and i don't love pushing onto someone who is AFK.

I DID look into falcon and creature, just because I didn’t do a million quotes doesn’t mean I didn’t

I did place suspicion on creature and I regrettably went with marmot because I honestly felt better about those voting there at that time. Especially since I had limited time I didn’t really have a lot to go on.
I clearly stated, I’m going marmot today and will vote creature next.

Also I addressed Nate, I do try to read everything, even if I might not comment on everything.
I just found it an interesting point.

This was the other. Can you link me to where you discussed Falcon and Creature next, as you had said you would?

I’m not looking for a million quotes, just a progression that helps me understand your vote.

Thanks!

[tutuu]

Everyone vote Santy it'll be super funny.

@Dennis @tutuu make everyone do it while I sleep. I want to see if we can persuade the whole playerlist to vote him.

[VOTE: santy] aubergine im hesitant to let genny the 18 poster live over santy the 200 poster. Im just honest coz i dont have the energy to fully roleplay along with your schtick rn

[tutuu]

Santy's scumreads are mac, dennis, miranda, mr7 which imo is extremely likely 0/4 correct scumreads

So i do get it

[tutuu]

Lawpy/Dennis > Miranda > Sar/Mac/genny

Its kindof where I am at

I missed this so not quite, he does have lawpy and genny i suppose

Not sure why combine slashes and arrows in the same expression, not sure how to understand this

Since slashes "/" are usually used to express team combinations

And arrows ">" are used to express order of chop preference

Combining them makes me lost on the meaning