[END] Literal WWerecreatures Invade Syndicate Zoo: An SDN Crossover Game

[NateTheLesser]

@genny , not sure if you are caught up on anything, but how do you feel about Lawpy?

mayo says he's a wolf, and it sounds like lawpy knows why but isn't telling.

Lawpy says he's a fruit vendor and sent mayo fruit. But fruit vendor isn't one of the possible main roles. So if that's his community role he should probably tell us what his main role is.

[genny]

@genny , not sure if you are caught up on anything, but how do you feel about Lawpy?

mayo says he's a wolf, and it sounds like lawpy knows why but isn't telling.

Lawpy says he's a fruit vendor and sent mayo fruit. But fruit vendor isn't one of the possible main roles. So if that's his community role he should probably tell us what his main role is.

yeah i read that. mayo also has hinted that he knows lawplawp is lying for reals yo.

[SARdoghandler]

Theme: Creatures! Can be werecreatures, fantastical creatures, or just everyday creatures. Something that has a creature or creatures in the song title, artist name, or lyrics of the song.

(No Werewolves of London please)

[NateTheLesser]

@genny , not sure if you are caught up on anything, but how do you feel about Lawpy?

mayo says he's a wolf, and it sounds like lawpy knows why but isn't telling.

Lawpy says he's a fruit vendor and sent mayo fruit. But fruit vendor isn't one of the possible main roles. So if that's his community role he should probably tell us what his main role is.

yeah i read that. mayo also has hinted that he knows lawplawp is lying for reals yo.

Yeah, which seems legit. (I know Lawpy's under the weather and I wish him the best)

If scum!mayo got sent a fruit by Lawpy and decided to bury him for it, props. But it's much more likely to just be what it seems.

[mightyrunner7]

SDN Crossover Mini WWereWWalrus

Theme: Creatures! Can be werecreatures, fantastical creatures, or just everyday creatures. Something that has a creature or creatures in the song title, artist name, or lyrics of the song. (No Werewolves of London please)

I'll rate them based on creature-ness and personal taste, and put the results in tonight's broadcast.

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@JaggedJimmyJay
@Dubz
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@supershorty
@dyachei
@Lawpy
@genny
@Mayo the Mayo
@mightyrunner7
@miranda920
@santygrass
@SARdoghandler
@Dennis
@DrWilgy
@tutuu
@Kate
@MacDougall
@Neon
@S~V~S
@Seanzie
@Sloonei
@Scotty
@Animal Midwife
@pyxxy
@SportPonies
@Creature
@Zenge
@falcon45ca
@Marmot
@potentialsheltervet

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[S~V~S]

@NateTheLesser

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3GE-sfEbJ7I

[Dennis]

Alrighty reads

Why is there so many people left

Tutuu
Mac

Sloonei
MR7
SVS
Nate
Neon

I call this category "who?" because why do I still not remember any of your posts

SAR
Mayo

Santy - your reaction to mac's sus was like concerning, repeatedly bringing it up later just to shut it down even further

Miranda - something about your tone is just off to me, like you feel like you always have to defend
Seanzie - where u go y u no talk

Lawpy - I think you panicked with that roleclaim and then peaced out cause you felt outed
Genny - yah this is a sheep but I read myself and I agree for reasons I really don't feel like spelling out right now

You are using the logic from my posts to wolf read lawpy, but also don’t remember any of my posts?

And have no read on me?

That’s not a great look for you imo

Yeah probably not

Especially not after I say I remembered that after

[SARdoghandler]

@NateTheLesser https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EPsuOE ... MrBlondexX

[Dennis]

Dennis what are your reads?

Remember when you said you were confident on falcon v Zenge being TvT bit you did nothing on it? Because I do and didn't see you reassess much. Voting me without talking about me is kinda awful too ngl

Am I meant to do something more with it

I didn't really feel a need to reassess when everything continued to feel right

Like just because I'm not saying "Hello, yes I am checking in I do still read this as t/t" doesn't mean I forgot about it

Explain softly how one Town read of your death tunneling another Town read of yours is 'everything right'

I thought he'd move on eventually and it wasn't worth the effort and the OMGUS I'd probably get hit with so I didn't bother with Zenge

Also what does reassessing actually do after they both flip, unless I don't know what reassess means

There's no point, they are both dead and we have no reason to solve flipped slots

[Dennis]

And said necessary tonal shift has been demonstrated by my fake re-evaluation on you?

So my plan to secure my factions win revolves around re-evaluating you from towncore (a read I didn't even have at the start of the day) and pocketing every other player in the game.

Because you are the ultra threat of all town and of all the town that exist I must catch the ultra threat of Santy the Destroyer.

Muahahaha. And you marvellous town GOD have foiled me. Seen straight through my devilish master plan. @Dennis he has figured out our devious Vampiric schemes we must now pivot to super anti-town and not townread him even harder!

Yes SIR

@everyone vote santy pls and ty

[NateTheLesser]

And said necessary tonal shift has been demonstrated by my fake re-evaluation on you?

So my plan to secure my factions win revolves around re-evaluating you from towncore (a read I didn't even have at the start of the day) and pocketing every other player in the game.

Because you are the ultra threat of all town and of all the town that exist I must catch the ultra threat of Santy the Destroyer.

Muahahaha. And you marvellous town GOD have foiled me. Seen straight through my devilish master plan. @Dennis he has figured out our devious Vampiric schemes we must now pivot to super anti-town and not townread him even harder!

Yes SIR

@everyone vote santy pls and ty

That wagon came and went.

[Dennis]

I would caution against using claims as clearing at most levels as on SDN we often have designs to combat this - mods providing fakeclaims for wolves, giving traditional town roles to wolves and vice versa, and otherwise messing with "expected" mechanics. Not saying it may not be useful, but should be interpreted with caution.

I'm also still tinfoiling that we have two separate scum factions. Since sdn plays werewolf and syndicats play mafia, I was thinking we might have wolves (were animals) and mafia in this game rather than 3p/sk as the other faction

I like your tinfoil. It would explain some of the extra night kills.

Do you have an updated reads list?

Your first one was based off of only a partial read of the game.

Any evolution in your thoughts since then?

I mean, everything is going to be based off of a partial read because I'm not going back to D1 outside of ISOs and I've read ~75% of D2. We're doing well today, I think I've read nearly everything.

Reads right now look like

Mac
Tutuu
Mayo

Miranda
MR7

SVS*
Neon*
Nate
Sloonei*
Dennis*

Seanzie*
genny
Santy

Lawpy

Stars denote players I want to take time to do iso's of because I'm ranking them more on gut feel - hence why they're mostly mid-pack so I need to sort those out more concretely. Basically slotted where it felt right on tone since I have no meta but didn't have as many obvious village points that gave me my Tutuu/Mac reads

Passable

[Dennis]

And said necessary tonal shift has been demonstrated by my fake re-evaluation on you?

So my plan to secure my factions win revolves around re-evaluating you from towncore (a read I didn't even have at the start of the day) and pocketing every other player in the game.

Because you are the ultra threat of all town and of all the town that exist I must catch the ultra threat of Santy the Destroyer.

Muahahaha. And you marvellous town GOD have foiled me. Seen straight through my devilish master plan. @Dennis he has figured out our devious Vampiric schemes we must now pivot to super anti-town and not townread him even harder!

Yes SIR

@everyone vote santy pls and ty

That wagon came and went.

Let's do it again

[Dennis]

Well that was an underwhelming catch up

Where even did those 6 pings come from wtf

[Dennis]

[VOTE: lawpy] aubergine

[NateTheLesser]

Well that was an underwhelming catch up

Where even did those 6 pings come from wtf

One was the music game, do that.

[Dennis]

Well that was an underwhelming catch up

Where even did those 6 pings come from wtf

One was the music game, do that.

I'm lookin but I don't know many songs be prepared for disappointment

[Mayo the Mayo]

Thought about doing a mini walrus and using my next broadcast for the reveal, but idk.

I’m confusion

A music game where I would pick a theme and ppl send me a song that fits the theme and then I rank them against each other and it has no bearing on anything.

Did flushy used to do this? I think I listened in to a few

[miranda920]

I just was reading something

Was it those posts you were going to pull for me? I was hoping to see them before EOD, while I’m here

I am sorry for the delay, working on this now as I have just finished for the day

[miranda920]

Okay, from what I can see there is not a lot that Creature has input into the game so far

They voted for me early on last day cycle because they were least impressed by me, but I don’t think they’ve done anything remarkable either…
Does that necessarily mean scum? Possibly.

It seems like they might just be busy with RL, which same, so if that is the case I don’t want to go there right now because I can relate to that

creature *should* be a polarized player that hates wolfing, is not as good at wolfing as towning, hyper posts as town and likes to get depressed and post that town depression itt, and go under the radar as mafia (these arent my takes, im echoing what i know is the consensus on how to read him)

it lines up with his ISO + it lines up with my thought that the wolfteam here has people from different communities who dont know each other, making it awkward / out of comfort zone to wolf together with so many unfamiliar faces

so players who hate wolfing already will probably be extremely demotivated to wolf in this game

This is interesting, I didn’t find creature’s ISO to be particularly sus, but if what you’re saying is true to how they usually approach these games then that lines up with what we are seeing

You didn't find him voting for you for no reason four minutes into the day at least odd?

I did, I believe I addressed it in a recent post

I added that they voted me for being unremarkable, but they too have been pretty unremarkable in this game

@S~V~S regarding creature

[Dennis]

@NateTheLesser

listen man this is all i got

https://youtu.be/bq9ghmgqoyc

[NateTheLesser]

Thought about doing a mini walrus and using my next broadcast for the reveal, but idk.

I’m confusion

A music game where I would pick a theme and ppl send me a song that fits the theme and then I rank them against each other and it has no bearing on anything.

Did flushy used to do this? I think I listened in to a few

Believe so. They do them here and on MU quite a bit. Usually the reveal is a discord listening party, it's fun.

[miranda920]

@miranda920 can you tell me about your current view? Like, who are your confident reads / try to sort people into town/scum ?

Dont think you trying to shiel/explain yourself on why you did for being pressed on time or whatever will make me feel better about you, so I think taking a different stance and try to solve/put your thought on the game will help me more

Lawpy - lean wolf
Genny - neutral, Genny is always a challenging read for me
Mayo - neutral, leaning more town
MR7 - town
Nate - neutral, unsure there are some iffy things
Santy - surprisingly you seem town to me, but you could easily good me
SAR - leans town
Dennis - neutral
Tutuu - seems townie
Mac - also seems town
Neon - feels town
SVS - neutral (also I promised I will get you those quotes when I have access to my laptop)
Seanzie - unsure, nothing has stood out to me about them
Sloonei - I’ve generally felt fine about them

Also, it seems like I'm the only unconditional town read, which I find a bit strange. I think a few others have a much better town argument than me. Is this a correct interpretation of your list?

I'm still working on reading through from the beginning of the day cycle before I place my vote, but I wanted to reply because you addressed me

I have you as lock town because I don't see a scenario where wolf!mighty gets a post restriction like you had

[Mayo the Mayo]

I think I will likely reveal the rest of why I don’t believe Lawwpy.

Though I feel the case against his tone, VCA, and not really pushing falcon look bad.

[MacDougall]

And said necessary tonal shift has been demonstrated by my fake re-evaluation on you?

So my plan to secure my factions win revolves around re-evaluating you from towncore (a read I didn't even have at the start of the day) and pocketing every other player in the game.

Because you are the ultra threat of all town and of all the town that exist I must catch the ultra threat of Santy the Destroyer.

Muahahaha. And you marvellous town GOD have foiled me. Seen straight through my devilish master plan. @Dennis he has figured out our devious Vampiric schemes we must now pivot to super anti-town and not townread him even harder!

Yes SIR

@everyone vote santy pls and ty

That wagon came and went.

*whoosh*

[mightyrunner7]

@miranda920 can you tell me about your current view? Like, who are your confident reads / try to sort people into town/scum ?

Dont think you trying to shiel/explain yourself on why you did for being pressed on time or whatever will make me feel better about you, so I think taking a different stance and try to solve/put your thought on the game will help me more

Lawpy - lean wolf
Genny - neutral, Genny is always a challenging read for me
Mayo - neutral, leaning more town
MR7 - town
Nate - neutral, unsure there are some iffy things
Santy - surprisingly you seem town to me, but you could easily good me
SAR - leans town
Dennis - neutral
Tutuu - seems townie
Mac - also seems town
Neon - feels town
SVS - neutral (also I promised I will get you those quotes when I have access to my laptop)
Seanzie - unsure, nothing has stood out to me about them
Sloonei - I’ve generally felt fine about them

Also, it seems like I'm the only unconditional town read, which I find a bit strange. I think a few others have a much better town argument than me. Is this a correct interpretation of your list?

I'm still working on reading through from the beginning of the day cycle before I place my vote, but I wanted to reply because you addressed me

I have you as lock town because I don't see a scenario where wolf!mighty gets a post restriction like you had

Reasonable, thank you

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I think Neon and Santy are two that I've gotten a weird vibe from, that it's like they have an artificially narrow POE..? Not sure exactly how to explain. Like this is the part of the game where a non-wolf scum faction would need to steer away from certain parts of the POE.

Dying would be nice so like run a wagon on me

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

[VOTE: Sean] aubergine

[RondoDimBuckle]

I just hope everyone has fun

[tutuu]

I just hope everyone has fun

shut the fuck up rondo

[tutuu]

I just hope everyone has fun

i didnt ask

[MacDougall]

Pew pew gut reads here we go lessgo

Dennis - Hilariously cooked unit / town
Lawpy - Belly up (reprise)
genny - Probably will flip town but that wouldn't be fair
Mayo - Town for projecting this gif through text



MR7 - Ya know just don't know ya know. Like they are probably not with Creature/Falcon for spew reasons and whatever but then they aren't really towny at all so maybe other faction? I dunno I can't really abide them anymore. They haven't given me the creamy gooey town feel.
miranda - I feel pretty much the same about them as the above?
Nate - I kinda feel okay about Nate now. Good job buddy.
Neon - I kinda feel okay about Neon now. Good job buddy.
SVS - I kinda feel okay about SVS now. Good job buddy.
santy - Feels like a Werecreature who has convinced themselves that I am not town lol.
SARdog - I ain't do be buying what dey do be sellin tbh. Ain't no love between us.
Seanzie - At the start of the game he was all "ree I'm town Seanzie" at AM but then since then he's been basically wolf Seanzie. I am of the wondering whether he is of the non Werecreature align and started the game being able to realsolve which has become harder and harder and now we that he has taken his "yo im towny yo" t-shirt off he is revealed to have a "ha just kidding i wasnt town yo" shirt on underneath it.
Sloonei - He is giving me grandpa vibes which is kinda towny.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Oh yay Mac likes me!

[MacDougall]

Oh yay Mac likes me!

Don't make me weathervane damn you.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

[miranda920]

Read through this cycle more closely and based on the interactions between mayo and lawpy I am going with a lawpy yeet. The role-claim and general tone of lawpy appear off and a bit outing.

[VOTE: Lawpy] aubergine

[miranda920]

I would like to see more from @genny and @Seanzie, but that would be a little hypocritical of me as I've been pretty MIA too (sorry, I sometimes take on a little more than I can truly handle)

[genny]

@NateTheLesser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL9k2-K ... Cg&index=5

[mightyrunner7]

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

I never really had my heart in the genny yeat, I was just trying to summon her

genny is still in POE, but not the priority

Lawpy is a fine choice, but doesn't need more pressure

I think Seanzie should be tomorrow's goal if I don’t make it

[miranda920]

Can you elaborate on Nate? As in, what iffy things you recall?

I feel like there's a post restriction here.

There's not a post restrictor, unless it's something an inventor cooked up.

This actually feels like a genuine slip. I believe he didn't know Creature had the role. But I also want to know why you dismissed the idea completely @NateTheLesser?

This was pingy to me

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Post cap is lifted.

[genny]

Post cap is lifted.

thank goodness, i was real worried

[miranda920]

There's not a post restrictor, unless it's something an inventor cooked up.

This actually feels like a genuine slip. I believe he didn't know Creature had the role. But I also want to know why you dismissed the idea completely @NateTheLesser?

this is interesting...

How did you come across this post? It's a few pages into the day. Just curious.

I was reading through the pages? I can read lol
Just because I don’t quote a lot doesn’t mean I don’t read what is being said

Yes I know you can read

It was like 5 minutes after your "okay I'm gonna try to catch up" post, which sounded like you were starting from the start of the day or possibly before.

This also stood out to me. This was the only post from her catch up. She has said this before; just be3casue she isn't posting doesn't mean she's not reading. I get it, I'm not a prolific poster myself. But the whole point of this is to read AND to post your opinions. Reading without posting doesn't seem a winning strategy.

Is this the norm for her at SDN? I feel like I'm shouting in the wilderness here, becasue I really do think she is woofy.

I'm sorry, I feel like a total failure for not really being able to participate in the way I want to. :sad:
It probably wasn't the best idea for me to participate knowing that this week was going to be insane for me, but we're here now so I'm trying to make it work

I have been trying to read post in ride between farms, but single is terrible and then I get pulled away. I'm also trying to make a good impression with these veterinarians as they can help me in the future. I'm just trying to get across that this is not how I usually play, I'm not a high poster by any means but generally I have more time to engage and really understand what's happening. I'm really struggling to grasp at what is happening and that's why I have so many neutral reads because I just haven't had the opportunity to really dig deeper.

So for all of this, I am sorry!

[MacDougall]

OMG U GUISE POST CAP IS LIFTED I CAN SPAM WITH RECKLESS ABANDON

[Mayo the Mayo]

Post cap is lifted.

thank goodness, i was real worried

Oh, that's where you went

I forgot you hit cap

[MacDougall]

Can you elaborate on Nate? As in, what iffy things you recall?

I feel like there's a post restriction here.

There's not a post restrictor, unless it's something an inventor cooked up.

This actually feels like a genuine slip. I believe he didn't know Creature had the role. But I also want to know why you dismissed the idea completely @NateTheLesser?

This was pingy to me

My post?

[MacDougall]

To be clear when I say slip I meant townslip, or moreover "not with creature slip". What's pingy about it?

[miranda920]

Can you elaborate on Nate? As in, what iffy things you recall?

I feel like there's a post restriction here.

There's not a post restrictor, unless it's something an inventor cooked up.

This actually feels like a genuine slip. I believe he didn't know Creature had the role. But I also want to know why you dismissed the idea completely @NateTheLesser?

This was pingy to me

My post?

not your post, the fact that Nate seems to slip on some role knowledge

[miranda920]

To be clear when I say slip I meant townslip, or moreover "not with creature slip". What's pingy about it?

I misinterpreted that then

[Sloonei]

SDN Crossover Mini WWereWWalrus

Theme: Creatures! Can be werecreatures, fantastical creatures, or just everyday creatures. Something that has a creature or creatures in the song title, artist name, or lyrics of the song. (No Werewolves of London please)

I'll rate them based on creature-ness and personal taste, and put the results in tonight's broadcast.

To play, reply to this or ping me with a single youtube link. Put [ url ][ /url ] tags around the link (without the spaces) so it doesn't embed, or put it in a spoiler. Honor system, but try not to look at others' submissions.

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@JaggedJimmyJay
@Dubz
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@supershorty
@dyachei
@Lawpy
@genny
@Mayo the Mayo
@mightyrunner7
@miranda920
@santygrass
@SARdoghandler
@Dennis
@DrWilgy
@tutuu
@Kate
@MacDougall
@Neon
@S~V~S
@Seanzie
@Sloonei
@Scotty
@Animal Midwife
@pyxxy
@SportPonies
@Creature
@Zenge
@falcon45ca
@Marmot
@potentialsheltervet

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